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@SaKo
Yep, earth defence force, the game is so stupid it's great, it don't take its self seriously

I have had many heated discussions on here concerning if switch is a home console or handheld with TV out. Many always argue that it's a home console you can take on the go, play anywhere, even wipe your ass with it, those same ppl are on this article. Well now, these same ppl are saying fifa is a great game for a handheld, why, because it sucks compared to other home console versions, they use portability trump card as a get out of jail free card. If the game had all features like ps4, I guess they would be singing it's praises as a full blown home console version with added bonus of wiping your ass with it anywhere. This scenario will continue with most 3rd party games that are new and not old ports from last gen but when Ninty make a game, it's a home quality console game they scream. It's pathetic really reading their comments contradicting themselves. 3rd party have pretty much exposed the switch as a handheld with TV out, fifa in particular, it will be no different with Doom and wolfenstein, modes missing, lower framerate rate, less resolution, hit on the graphics and whateverelse, cause it's a handheld that's limited, ppl should embrace it for what it is,

@darthstuey
Yep, can't believe this crap is news. Ppl need to grow the #?!+ up, very childish, they should be ashamed

It's a sad day when a icon becomes center of attention over the game, what a bunch of, I will let you guys figure out last part of the sentence, spoiler alert, it rhymes with blunts. Man it's only a icon, why even give a toss, some ppl on here need to get out more, very sad indeed

@NEStalgia
Sorry for the late reply, been working 12 hour shift, always, about half of the 64 games published by Sony were physical and rest digital, can't be bothered making a list but i guess you know the games, having owned a vita. Your original comment didn't say anything about retail only but that's irrelevant, all publishers release digital games. Can't agree entirely with you that most of their games look like mobile versions, the likes of killzone, uncharted, freedom wars, Gravity Rush, soul sacrifice, unit 13, Tearaway, LBP plus others were built for vita, full on games. Yes have to agree their ps3 ports were downgraded obviously, the vita ain't ps3 but still they came like rachet&clank Qforce, Wipeout, ps altars battle royal, everybody golf, sly Cooper thief in time, plus others, yes they were compromised compared to ps3 versions but still playable, their ps2 remakes were a different pond of fish with mixed reception, jak&dexter was a tragedy. The indie games they published were a mixed bag, some of them absolute gems like Resogun, unfinished Swan, super stardust delta, flower plus others, some also crap imo. Wii U didn't have a problem with PS360 ports, it was on same level as them unlike vita with ps3 and switch with ps4 pro, xboxonex , due soon. Wii U would have struggled more with ps4 games than Vita having ps3 games, that's the consoles they were up against at the time, now switch is here to have a go at this gen, nintendo's 2nd attempt at this gen, it will have same problem with playing full blown ps4 games just like vita with ps3, the Switch games will all be compromised in some way like modes missing, lower framerate, lower resolution, inferior graphics and whatever else, this won't mean they won't be good or playable, they should be fine, but it's the ps3 vita scenario again, we are already seeing this with switch games already, like fifa having modes missing, doom will have less fps and a hit on graphics, plus no multiplayer unless you want dlc, you see what am getting at, let alone the tragedy that's NBA. I own a vita, Wii u and 3Ds, my biggest let down of the three was Wii u, for me it didn't just fail with sales but games aswell, vita failed with sales but a massive success for me personally because i mainly play Japanese games and sports games, don't really care much for Western game's so it wasn't much of a loss when they left vita scene, i do like to support indie games though, I don't buy many but now and then one or two catch my eye, i loved playing every minute of salt&Sanctuary, undertale, i hope both games make it to switch, they deserve a wider audience, like i said sorry for late reply, wasn't been ignorant

@NEStalgia
Man your so full of BS, SONY abandoned vita after a few months, BS. It released in 2012 and their last game was 2015 with plenty more In-between, like killzone, Tearaway 2014, Sony actually published 64 games for vita, that's alot more than Ninty did with wii u, OK not all of them were good but that's the same for any publisher. Yes it's a tragedy that they dropped vita because of ps4 but it's pointless spouting I'll informed crap that Sony abandoned vita after a few months, sounds like sour grapes from someone that got burned

@JaxonH
Very valid and interesting points, let's not talk about jak&daxter on vita, it was a tragedy of a lazy port. Hmm i compared videos of dragon quest heroes 2 on vita, switch and ps4 and yes the switch version looked better than Vita but the ps4 version was seriously better than the switch version, far superior detail, guess i am saying, switch ain't getting the console quality ports but certainly getting a console experience, the games just don't reach that next level ps4 xone quality just like vita with PS360 games that came out on it, vita and switch are singing the same song when you compare that scenario. Saying that, that doesn't mean the games aren't playable or enjoyable because most games are unless they become a tragedy like jak&day and nba2k on switch, that's right i can't agree with you on this version been best handheld version ever, it's broken, audio sound is some of the worst ever in a modern game, even to the point it skips words altogether, framerate is hmm BAD, for me psp version is still best handheld version. Have to agree if mario plus some of nintendo's other franchises were on vita, then yes ppl would buy them, like FE, PRIME, XENO, not so sure with all their franchises like Kirby, Yoshi but same the otherwise, Tearaway, LBP, uncharted, killzone and maybe Wipeout, shame one machine fits all isn't in place, for me it ain't to bad, i have 2 vita's, one normal the other with Henkaku hack, so yeah I have Nintendo games on vita like Zelda OOT, GOLDENEYE, mkart 64 plus many others from past machines, even great MAME games. I also have a 3ds and Wii u. Not sure if ppl were put off Nintendo during wii, Wii u era, afterall their handhelds still sell loads, yep wii u failed just like my Vita friend but both machines were a massive success when you look at the games, both machines were responsible for new ip been born, that can't be a bad thing, like Splatoon, mario maker, even toad got his own game, vita Tearaway, Gravity Rush, unit 13, soul sacrifice and freedom wars, some of these games went on to spawn newer versions for both machines, so i take my hat kff to them. Switch will sell lots, but I don't care for sales, it's the games and yes switch and vita have many to come, when it slows down for vita then vita hardcore userbase may look to the switch but most will be happy playing a back catalogue of games or playing ps4 or remoteplay to the vita, many in our message groups are already doing this, for me only prime i would want on switch with the games that have been announced, probably xeno aswell, but that's it really. For many vita owners the power of remoteplay can't be underestimated, they have a constant supply of AAA titles, though it's not best way to play these games, it works and that's one of main reasons they won't jump to switch, that's if they were even considering it in the first place which I doubt it

@JaxonH
Yes mate good reply, like I said hardcore vita fans or those chasing niche games won't jump ship just yet but obviously like you said many have that want the latest handheld and rightly so, nothing wrong with owning both machines or maybe even trade the old one but while games are still been made many won't budge. Many vita owners won't buy a switch just because it has latest mario etc, many bought a vita because Nintendo games don't do it for them anymore, many would have bought a 3ds but choose vita instead even though it had some great games outside the Nintendo fold.. Anyways mate what 3rd party support on switch, i ain't seen anything but ports of old games or indie that you can get on any other machine or poor versions like NBA or, it's great that it's getting games like Doom and fifa etc but all of them have been compromised in one form or another, switch ain't getting the full console quality experience that others are getting on their machines, the scenario you describe for 3rd party doesn't exist on switch and probably never will, it ain't got the guts for it, that's not to say these games are not welcome cause they are, i also think switch is great apart from all the gimmick stuff like joycons, for me personally i would prefer it if it was smaller for portability, in the pocket, but that's just a minor gripe. Ah the memory issue, yes for vita it was bad but same will happen for switch, you need a huge one like 100 gig upwards, 400 for you, it ain't cheap and with many games been a fair size for digital release only those micro cards will full up and yes all switch owners will have to buy more unless you swap out games, tbh that scenario makes it more expensive than Vita memory where most games are less than a gig digitally, not that it matters, if you have money

@JaxonH
Very true but as a vita owner myself all those points you mentioned don't really matter really, the active vita userbase is more than happy with their lot, that's not to say some won't upgrade to a switch but games that are coming to both machines won't make them want to migrate, well maybe in Japan. I am in a few message groups on vita and most ppl in them have or are going to migrate to the ps4 because it's now getting probably more Japanese games than Vita, yes we have chatted about switch but most of them are not interested, it's going to take a while to get them to move to switch but it does seem like a natural progression but tabletop, hd rumble, detachable joycons etc ain't gonna do it for sure

@JaxonH
No need to migrate just yet mate, it's coming to vita, though the op didn't mention that, also these games are mediocre but still worth a play if you like Japanese games, only there are better similar games out there

@NinNin
Lol, we are all robots in a forever changing world, robots to society, no different from this reviewer, nothing disrespecting about that and certainly not a insult, if i wanted to insult believe me i would have said something far worse but a insult wasn't my intentions and as far as i can see it wasn't one where i come from

@Anti-Matter
Did you say something interesting, no, thought not, think for yourself instead of copying other ppls comments, i was having a good discussion with NinNin, leave us to it unless you have something new to say

@NinNin
Give it a rest, so I guess I am supposed to agree with their overloaded reviews of Nintendo games, 1St or 2nd party ones. I had this game on wii u, so I know exactly what it is and yes they are robots when it comes to reviews, they are the only ones that score games very high compared to other sites. Tbh i prefer to read the general public comments, they are usually more truthful and not blinkered by having their heads firmly planted up nintendo's backside. If you think my coment was a insult, which it wasn't then you need to get out more in the real world and see for yourself what a real insult is, now be gone with you and keep smiling ☺

@NinNin
NL are Nintendo robots, there opinion don't count, it's still a Nintendo 1St party game, they will have had some input, also many others on here didn't agree with the review but you singled out just me, hmm

@NinNin
Who said anything about other ppls opinions, certainly not me, it was a bland fighter with little depth and certainly not worth a 9, it's just NL bloating Ninty developed games yet again but that's just one opinion, this opinion is right for me but may not be for others, am cool with that

@Ryu_Niiyama
I was just messing about, basketball reminds me of women's netball that's all,

Lol, mens netball with massive save file corrupts, oh dear lol, that's what happens when you make a woman's game for men

9/10, wow, this game was crap on wii u and switch version will be no different, I should never have bought it. Nintendo Life reviews as usual are laughable, never could i take them serious, i check other sites for a more grounded review, NL are flying with the cuckoo's when they review games developed by nintendo

@BlueOcean
Thx for the info mate, where do i find these portals for nether, do other players create them, i should check up on it. I don't like to use guides because it's a spoiler tbh

@BlueOcean
I am enjoying it but I don't know what my mission is, am I supposed to just craft and build and survive with no mission, not sure what I should be doing

@BlueOcean
Hey. Sony does cross-play with certain games with PC, i guess they don't feel like they have to with this game, the Minecraft userbase on ps4 is big enough to find others to play with, though it would have been good to have cross-play. Having said that i recently bought it on vita very cheap, i haven't a clue what i am doing, there doesn't seem to be a aim to the game, getting fed up already not knowing what's going on, what does adventure mode do

@electrolite77
You forget one thing, this site is Nintendo life not switch life, Anyways moving on, ppl who don't have the machine check sites like this to see what's new coming to switch or other Nintendo hardware. You never know, it could change ppl's minds that are sitting on the fence. Hmm it ain't complaining stating that most big 3rd party games will have some baggage, whatever that maybe. Also many on here are complaining about these games that have baggage and yes they own a switch, that's what Nintendo fanbase does, go back to the NBA 2K article or the secret of Mana one and you will see nothing but Nintendo fans, particularly the switch owners, crying and complaining, this is just 2 examples, there are loads more. I like Nintendo but the switch just seems to be one problem after another, i am still siting on this fence, i have painted it a few times. Nothing has convinced me to get of it yet, maybe one day or jump the otherside and not bother with switch, that would be a first for me if i don't buy Ninty hardware, i have always bought day 1

Well no surprise there, Ninty developed games are nowhere near graphic intense. Put Doom next to mario oddessey and look at the level of detail between them, even down to lighting and shadows, Ninty just recycle their textures, let's see what Nintendo can do when they are forced to do same as 2K or id, still that's a bloody big save file,

Hmm, every big game coming out seems to carry some kind of baggage, wolfenstein will probably have similar issues, like Doom or NBA 2k. Get used to this, it's going to be the norm for switch.

The Show is only one worth buying

Map editor and multiplayer are important, nice to have something extra when single player is finished, downloading other players maps would have been a blast aswell as uploading your own, shame it won't be available

@gatorboi352
I was going to buy a switch because of this game, but no map editor is a deal breaker for me, uploading and download would have been ace, but i knew there would be compromises, but not the editor. Any big 3rd party game that comes to switch will be half a game, also i don't want to be forking out money all time for memory cards

This is great news, doom and Wolf, this is more like it. Tbh though i am expecting a downgraded version of both games, anything above that is a great bonus, just glad they are coming, now how about a Quake game

Well that's it for me, i have the money but didn't want a switch but Doom was a game i cut my teeth on back in the day, amongst others like Duke nukem, Quake. Certainly buying a switch now but won't be buying any games with a fat plumber in them though. No doubt quake will come now

Right NOW on vita psn there is a sale, this game is £4.99 and Origins £3.99, if you have a vita in Europe then it's a bargain, if you don't then oh well,

@MsgBoardGamer
Not sure which point or article your talking about, we have posted many, do enlighten me, I have probably answered it somewhere, maybe or I got side tracked

@Anti-Matter
Just got to say, I love you man. I know what Nintendo is, hmm who doesn't, Christ i brought my kids up on food, water and nintendo

@NabbitFan730
Exactly mate, where are all the big games, it's great that's it's getting these games but you know what am talking about, now don't be canny lol. Yes they have to test waters, hell why not, then they will release more last gen ports, just like capcom, many will follow their lead, it's no bad thing

@MsgBoardGamer
Who said psp, vita was a home console, not me, i said both machines have games that give you a home console experience. Well that was just a fancy way of avoiding the fact that outside of Ninty developed games the switch can't give the very latest 3rd party home console experience. I ain't even going to answer the ridiculous comment about Ninty pushing their own hardware and bollocks to all you 3rd party comment. Reminds me of a man trapped on a island by himself, why would anybody want to rescue him after he turned his back on them

@BlueOcean
It's certainly a powerful handheld but for those that think it's a home console, they have bought a weak console, this is nintendo's 2nd attempt at this gen with a home console that's still can't run the latest new 3rd party games, hence why it will only get last gen ports, sad indeed. Any of the latest games will be severely compromised, that's if it gets them. None of that matters really cause it's a handheld and said 3rd party last gen ports would be welcome. That's what i think of switchportal

@thedevilsjester
Yep tried telling him something similar but he wouldn't listen, he just seemed obsessed with Ninty developed games for switch with no mention of latest 3Rd party games, not ports that switch can't run, why because it's a handheld, still it gets console quality games just like vita, psp. Have to say though you worded it better than me

@electrolite77
Yep not often enough, what they did to J&D was a tragedy, out of all the ps2 remasters that one was by far the worst, I didn't buy it. Anyways uncharted & killzone certainly gave a impression that you were playing a home console experience. Many of the other ps3 ports were fine though had to be compromised in some form or another but they were still home console experiences regardless what others on here think, it would be same for switch if square was to release FFXV on switch, compromise would have to be made but it would still get that home console feeling. Enough of that, i kept my Vita for Japanese games, well it certainly wasn't for all those western and Sony games that aren't coming, but vita is certainly King when it comes to Japanese niche games, secret of Mana remake anyone lol, seriously though i don't get much time for games, working long shifts does that

@NabbitFan730
Let's get one thing straight, i don't give a rats arse about wii u or switch for that matter, but just for the record i would rather have switch than wii u, hope that cleared that up, keep smiling ☺

@MsgBoardGamer
Yes i understand what you say, let's forget Nintendo first party games for a moment. Take latest 3rd party games that released on PS4ONE, not last gen ports, they would have to be compromised in some way to fit on switch, meaning by your calculations the switch wouldn't be offering console quality docked or on the go. Now we all know Ninty developed games aren't exactly graphic intense, let's face it most of their games still look like wii u games, like splatoon2, Arms, not saying they aren't technically impressive because they are, guess what i am saying is it's a weak home console but a powerful handheld, if that makes any sense. In your words switch can't handle latest this gen games because it's a handheld, meaning 3rd party

@MsgBoardGamer
OK, calm down 😁 lol, yes your right, they are latest Nintendo grand games but made for a handheld with TV out not a home console, it will always be a handheld to me and many others but a home console to you and many others, this problem will always exist. It's not a problem though, it's just the way it is. Anyways Sony built console like quality games for the Vita from the ground up, exclusive to that machine, no different than Ninty doing the same with switch handheld, having said that, it don't matter if it's a zelda game or Nintendo land game, if you like them then cool if you don't then cool, it's always games that rule

@NabbitFan730
Yep it could run all those with the exception of steep, even switch is struggling with that one, Skyrim is just a old port, fifa don't even use the new engine, there might be some downgrade but it can still run them, tegra X1 ain't exactly new tech. It was revealed to the world early 2015

@MsgBoardGamer
BS, can't you read, i said they got home console ports not that they were a home console, downgraded or not they are home ports. Yes Nintendo are making so called home console games for a machine that is basically last gen, even wii u could pull them off though slightly downgraded, if the latest big budget PS4ONE games came to switch you would be singing and dancing with joy, though they would be significantly downgraded but that's alright. Your full of BS, just like you have been with many other ppl recently, very rude and arguments, you have been like this for days, your opinion is nothing to me until you pull your head out of your backside and smell some real air, must be smelly down there

@MsgBoardGamer
So wrong, the psp had plenty games that captures the home console experience, at the time it had many ps2 ports when ps2 was still a thing, games like Warriors, manhunt 2 etc. Vita also got ps3 ports before ps4 existed, plus games that gave the home console experience, like uncharted, killzone, need for Speed, boarderlands2, Gravity Rush plus many others, all big budget games, though most of them are last gen games now but weren't at the time

@BlueOcean
Everybody wastes their time, just by coming on here instead of playing these awesome games they say they have bought lol.

@electrolite77
Exactly, i have no reason to complain if i don't buy one, i ain't planning to but can't say never, all depends on the games from 3rd party, i already know what to expect from Ninty, though i have to say Devils Third was a bolt from the blue, multiplayer was a blast, more games like this from nintendo would be great, it wouldn't do switch sales any harm, can't see why they can't release games like this aswell as their usual franchises, i think it would get ppl sitting on the fence take more notice of what Nintendo are up to. OK going back to the console or handheld debate, for me it will always be a handheld with TV out, but that's just me, others will have their opinions which is absolutely fine with me if they disagree, it ain't world ending 😁 lol. Anyways I agree it's most powerful handheld so far, though it has its faults, as a Nintendo home console, yes it's their most powerful yet but not much of a leap forward, more last gen than this gen. Dont get me wrong, for me that wouldn't apply cause i think it's a handheld only with TV out as a great feature, a bonus if you like. Good luck to Nintendo and the switch though

@Anti-Matter
It's nothing personal with Nintendo, just that my gaming tastes have changed, i have a wii u with mario kart and other cute games they made for it. Actually owning a wii u was when i realised i have out grown Nintendo, most of their games on it i disliked like mario3dworld, Yoshi, DKCTF, i only likedMK and xeno, i got more enjoyment from the mature 3rd party games on wii u, that's when it dawned on me that Nintendo wasn't for me anymore

@JaxonH
Lol, yep can't beat a bit of glam

Many disagreements on here relating to " yes it is no it isn't a home console ". Well if this switch is a home console then it's a very poor effort from nintendo, i haven't seen anything on it that the wii u can't do, this is a 2nd attempt at this generation with mediocre specs for a home console. Now if it's a handheld with TV out, then this has potential to be a great mobile device, though it has a long way to go to sort it's problems out. This is the first time i haven't bought Nintendo hardware at launch and certainly won't be buying this in the foreseeable future, probably never, i have played on a friends machine before he sold it, it didn't do anything for me, shame really cause i have supported Nintendo since NES days but alas i have decided to move on from them, their games don't interest me anymore apart from a handful that i can live without, my gaming tastes have changed for the better, no more cute and colourful games for me. I will come back if Nintendo decide to make mature games aswell as their normal stuff

@electrolite77
Yes mate switch is getting more support, mainly indie games though, this is just a old port that Rockstar are testing the waters with. I don't see latest big releases coming to switch, let alone same time as ps4one, ain't happening, nothing wrong with old ports though, especially since it would be first time playing them for many Ninty fans. Wii U got initial good support from 3rd party, even a year later it got releases of big games same time as other hardware like Batman origins, ASSASSINS CREED black flag and COD ghosts, these were big games only nobody bought them, can't blame them for jumping ship, same thing will happen to switch if latest games make it to switch. Getting last gen ports are less of a risk, the games are already in place they just have to convert them at a much less cost, it's a win win situation even with mediocre sales for publishers, yep switch will get loads of last gen ports and virtually nothing from latest big games that PS4ONE gets, but that's ok, bloody hell even vita got about 20 PS360 games

@Nolan420
I agree with sligy, it's a handheld, nothing home console about it, it's just a feature the handheld let's you do when playing on TV. All the guts are inside the tablet