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Re: Sega's Shining Series Returns To The West After A Decade Away, And It's Coming To Switch

Tsusasi

Um. Pass.

Bring back the real Shining series. Either the Shining in the Darkness/Holy Ark vibe, or the tactical Shining Force vibe. Do whatever ass kissing you have to do to bring Camelot back into the fold, SEGA... or at least whatever members of the Shining Force team you can get.

This can be a thing on its own as its own brand. Fine. But stop trying to trick SF fans into buying crap by co opting the Shining legacy.

Re: Rumour: Call Of Duty 2018 Could Be Black Ops 4, And It Might Be Headed To Switch

Tsusasi

The Wii U CoDs were brilliant. The motion controls and off screen play were awesome too and some even preferred to play with motion controls. Why you would go straight to ridiculous Vita comparisons and even mention the Wii, but completely ignore the Wii U iterations... which would be more apt comparisons... is freakin beyond me. If rumors are true, That's the versions I'll be looking forward to.

Re: Investigate Some Stranger Things As The Darkside Detective Heads To Switch

Tsusasi

@SLIGEACH_EIRE The mini direct wasn't bad at all. That's ridiculous. There are enough AAA titles, most people are still catching up. Reinforcing launches in Feb and March and highlighting enhanced versions of games that didn't get their due on a system with weak sales is an outstanding idea. 'The World Ends with You' is an amazing game and news of an HD port with additional content is also great news.

And bashing the Labo because you either don't understand it's value or personally don't like it is a bit ignorant.

It's spring, the industry slow season. Everyone is holding their cards close to their chest for E3 or announcements around that time... and Nintendo is known for being secretive. Nintendo will have plenty to share, as will 3rd parties. Being a fanboy is bad and I've been plenty critical of Nintendo when they actually screw up, but damn dude. You are always so negative.

And now you're bashing an aesthetic that has taken many different forms and styles and has oozed creativity - not all pixels are created equal - with no regard for the quality of the gameplay or the uniqueness of gameplay mechanics. Nothing but 'Too many pixels! Hulk smash!'.

I couldn't care less if we get nothing but the 8 or 16 bit vibe from every indie developer if the games kick ass. Are you incapable of enjoying games if they don't have cutting edge graphics? XBOX ONE and PS4 await you. Nintendo aren't always right, they can be arrogant and not every game with pixel art is a winner. But at the end of the day, the mini direct was a solid marketing move, Labo have yet to prove themselves but look fun, intriguing and innovative and indie developers are cranking out some incredibly fun, unique and engaging gameplay experiences, with and without pixel art. If you don't like it, fine. But it doesn't mean it's wrong or bad. Any of it.

Re: Deals: Save £10 On Your Nintendo Labo Pre-Order In The UK

Tsusasi

@Fight_Teza_Fight Hmmm. You kind of just repeated what I said: there's room for both. And to play both. Didn't come off as joking, but not aware of any 'running joke', so missed that. Don't see it as running or even limping. Kind of just a dry statement about two games in april. Not meme worthy or identifiable as humor anyway. But regardless, I hope you get a chance to experience Labo first hand. Idk about GoW though. The series is kind of played out. Hopefully it can inject some excitement and bring something truly new to the ip. It's pretty. Beautiful, really. Just seems like more of the same in a bigger world. Cheers.

Re: Deals: Save £10 On Your Nintendo Labo Pre-Order In The UK

Tsusasi

@Fight_Teza_Fight You are flippin' hilarious. In what twisted world would Labo even go up against GoW? Seriously... they don't share the same demographic or system, they are insanely different concepts and honestly, there's room for both.

Just because you have a narrow definition of what video games should be and of the concept 'play' itself... and have a very strong opinion doesn't make Labo hot garbage. It makes it something you don't like... without having even experienced it.

I'm just happy I'm not cold, dead and cynical inside. Already preordered my Labo Set... 20% off through Best Buy. I don't believe in having an inner child... life's too short to keep it trapped inside. I hope you give Labo a chance. If not, I'll play a dirge for innocence lost... on my Labo piano!

Re: Deals: Save £10 On Your Nintendo Labo Pre-Order In The UK

Tsusasi

Interesting and cool. Glad they are doing this since there's no other savings; Amazon did not honor their pre order discount for Prime members. At least not in the US. I went to order mine through Amazon and the discount was not applied. I can only speculate that they haven't classified the Labo as a game in their system.

I ended up using my Best Buy Gamers Club Unlocked. Best Buy honored the discount, which makes sense since they give you a discount on Amiibo as well.

20%. So. Much. Better.

Re: RiME Devs Explain The Difficulty Of Porting The Game To Switch

Tsusasi

With all of the visually amazing games on the Switch, including indie titles, it really pains me to hear the blame being put on the system... that somehow this comparatively simple game/geometry is somehow too much. Seriously? DOOM just dropped and they're whining about how hard their geometry was to optimize for the system? Open worlds? Um... Breath of the Wild seems to work just fine...

It will be a while before I even consider a purchase from these developers. Admitting you weren't quite up to the task is a LOT more endearing than whining and pointing fingers. I'd support an honest studio that tried to make things right with patches and owned their missteps. The port teams didn't have the chops to make it happen on the PC or the Switch, so they punted and took shortcuts. Fine. But don't blame the system when others are creating stunning visuals and experiences that dwarf the scale of their game.

Re: Review: RiME (Switch)

Tsusasi

@Menchi187 and, yet there shouldn't have been any. There's absolutely no excuse other than a rush to hit a release date. That's probably why no one believed or sided with you.

Re: Review: Monopoly for Nintendo Switch (Switch)

Tsusasi

I think it's an excellent way to play the game on the go, given how much space is involved in a physical set up. Perfect to play on the go, on a long car/ plane trip, etc. But I think the score is fair; more content (boards, player pieces, etc), including more variations (like Monopoly Go), mini games and the like would have bumped it to at least a 7 for me.

Re: Reggie Fils-Aime Discusses NES Mini Demand and Apologises to Those That Missed Out

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@MadAdam81 not even remotely true. Even before preorders opened for the NES Classic, the buzzz was over the top and everyne in the press covered it as the big holiday ticket. Then preorders sold out and scalpers immediately went to work... months before release. Then launch day continued that trend. The system itselfis very simply built, there were no component shortages, and it would have been no problem for nintendo to have ramped up production. They purposely did not. To say that Nintendo didn't know what the demand would be is naive at best. You basically regurgitated the company line at the time.

Re: Don't Pay Over The Odds For A SNES Classic Mini, Urges Reggie Fils-Aime

Tsusasi

In my eyes Reggie has become a greasy pimp with the integrity of your average politician. He has zero credibility left, reguritating whatever bullcrap he's programmed with. A corporate shill. I was super lucky I found an NES Classic, as it was my gift to myself for veteran's day. The only reason I found one is that I drove over an hour and hit up two different stores at midnight after the first had half of what the told me (turns out some idiot didn't know the difference between the xbox one s which launched the same night and the nes classic) and I barely made the line at the other store; got their last one. Reggie lied about it having always been limited. Execs from both Nintendo of Japan and America talked about increases in production and making sure it would be available for any one who wanted one. NOJ made it a point to apologize. It's a matter of fact and historical record that this is Nintendo's ignorant go to method of creating hype through artificial/managed scarcity. They value the hype and the press they recieve more than their fans. Unless I can walk into a retail store and purchase one through a normal shopping experience or easily order one online at msrp, I won't be worrying about getting one of these overhyped emulation machines. I'll build my own. I own every one of the games in cartridge, save for Star Fox 2. It's just not worth playing their game for convenience just to pay them to consolidate some roms dumps they themselves got from the internet. Nor should anyone give the subhuman scalper filth their money. Reggie... just stop.

Re: Reggie Fils-Aime Discusses NES Mini Demand and Apologises to Those That Missed Out

Tsusasi

@MadAdam81 Nope. Nintendo were fully aware of the demand for Amiibo. They short ran everything. They then further manipulated supply and availability by entering into exclusive retail agreements well after the shortages. And they knew from preorders what they had with the mini. Preorders had to be cancelled because of the demand. It sold out repeatedly and they had every chance to ramp up to meet demand. Thanks for drinking the koolaide though.

Re: Poll: What Do You Think of the New Nintendo 2DS XL?

Tsusasi

@PlywoodStick I hate that the price has creeped up due to supply shortages (have you seen how hard it has been over the last year to to find 3DSs in the states? It got harder and harder. Even now I see one or two on the shelves at target and Walmart if I see any and usually none at Best Buy). At $200, I'm thinking in order to keep with their policy of always making a profit off of hardware when at all possible, they dropped the adaptor. And that probably had something to do wth a combination of slim profit margins and needing more income from the 3DS family to make up for lagging Wii U sales. All speculation, but it seems reasonable that it was something like that. But with the Switch selling out and other revenue streams (like smart phone apps) in place... coupled with the economics of scale, I am disappointed the N3DS hasn't seen a price cut or at least bringing back the pack-in ac adaptor.

That having been said, the price is what it is and that positions the N2DS in a competitive position. If you don't give a crap about 3D, you save $50 bucks ($70 or 80 if you include the price of an adaptor). I get where you're coming from though, and no one has gotten and time with it so build quality is still an unknown. But if 'fit and finish' and materials are on point and it has IPS for at least the top screen, it would definitely be a decent investment.

Re: Poll: What Do You Think of the New Nintendo 2DS XL?

Tsusasi

@PlywoodStick $150 with an adaptor is definitely a good price point; it is NOT too expensive. The NEW 3DS XL is $220 - $230 with an adaptor and no guarantee of IPS or dual IPS screens (I'd be more pissed about the fact that IPS isn't standard on the $200 system, than the chance IPS won't be used for the $150 system). The NEW 2DS XL is all of the power and amenities of the NEW 3DS losing only the 3D and adding an adaptor in the box. And there's no guarantee of IPS for this model either. It can play every game the NEW 3DS XL can and the SNES VC games as well.

I don't see any reasonable argument against the current price point, other than 'I want, I want, I want... and I want it for nothing'. Sure... we all want things for cheep. But this is a great value as-is.

Re: Nintendo To Publish "Two To Three" Smartphone Titles Per Year

Tsusasi

Oh goody. N launches a new system that now needs a steady stream of software and they divert more resources to smart phones. Super.

My two cents as a gamer, as I gave these all a real chance:

Miitomo got old immediately - 'nuf said. Fire Emblem is a wallet suck and with quality FE titles on dedicated systems with more bang for the buck (even with the sad and unfortunate advent of DLC for Nintendo titles) there's no reason to waste time on it (even if it's a decent game). Super Mario Run is solid, as fun as any quality runner, but ultimately not worth the asking price... and the 'free' version runs out of runway quickly.

These are nothing more than new revenue streams and marketing channels... which is great for Nintendo and makes sense when seen through the lens of a boardroom, but are hardly cause for celebration for dedicated Nintendo hardware gamers.

Re: Poll: What Do You Think of the New Nintendo 2DS XL?

Tsusasi

I think it's a brilliant move. I like the design a lot. Given so many people play with 3D off or minimized, I think offering a 2D system with the power and features of the 'NEW' 3DS XL for $50 less is a great deal and packing in an adaptor sweetens the deal. It also parachutes in with an existing army of 100% playable titles AND the ability to play the 3DS VC SNES games as well (just in case you feel the need to buy the same game 2 or 3 times).

I think it's a perfect next step to keep kids in the Nintendo ecoculture while offering parents a reasonably priced alternative. Kids who got their first 2DS a few years ago will be able to step up to a system that sports a better design for gaming on the go, fits in their pocket properly, has a less toy-like appearance (the 2DS while ergonomically pleasing had a Fischer Price 'my first handheld' aesthetic) and comes with the bragging rights of being on par with the 'NEW' 3DS... just without the 3D.

And as I and many others have said in the face of comments from people very sure of their speculation, the Switch is NOT a replacement for the 3DS family. Now we have proof of their commitment.

On a side note: Dropping the price $50 AND including the AC adaptor - knowing that Nintendo doesn't sell systems at a loss - makes me feel like the 'NEW' 3DS maybe had a slimmer profit margin at launch than I thought.

Re: Poll: Do You Think Call Of Duty: WWII Will Come To Switch, And Would You Want It If It Did?

Tsusasi

@FragRed You're answer makes no sense and you have nothing to back that up. There were Wii and Wii U CoD releases and the Switch is burying the Wii U and possibly the Wii in sales, buzz and momentum. The Wii U CoD games were really well done and my favorite platform to play Black Ops II was definitely the Wii U. The Switch is also ideal for LAN tournaments and other competitive gaming and it would be the company's first really workable opportunity for a 'portable' version of the franchise. There are many reasons for them to take on the Switch. Is it possible that they will skip the Switch or release it at a later date? Sure. But it really wouldn't make sense. I don't see the logic in it and I don't see it making good business sense. If Nintendo had collective brain one in their marketing heads, there would be a special edition Switch and any in game touch device would be made to look like a pimped out Switch to tie it all together. Maybe as an exclusive DLC Skin. Seriously... a version of the game with exclusive Switch DLC packaged with a CoD themed Switch; day one sell out.

Re: Stardock CEO Says Nintendo Switch Doesn't Need Third Party Support To Succeed

Tsusasi

@olrodlegacy How is he forgetful? He specifically states 'I haven't seen a lot of third party success stories on the more recent Nintendo hardware' MORE RECENT.

How can you consider a 17 year old system to be 'more recent'? Especially with 3 additional systems under their belts since? With the Wii and especially the Wii U (the 'more recent' systems), he is dead-on accurate.

Even with the Gamecube, listing good/great 3rd party games on the system that you remember fondly and that got good reviews is not the same as those games being hits or even moderate sales success stories.

I may not agree with him that the system doesn't need 3rd party support, but he's not wrong about 3rd party sales on Nintendo console systems being flat, with even the vast majority of the better selling games falling FAR short of their sales on other systems.

Re: Talking Point: Nintendo Needs to Learn Lessons From Its NES Mini Mistakes

Tsusasi

@NEStalgia Yeah, that's kind of what I meant. If they can only afford to have XXX number of production lines tooled for their product indefinitely to maintain profit margins or if the facilities have XXX capacity to accommodate them indefinitely without adding additional lines and costs, then maybe retooling an existing line for Switch product is what they felt they needed to do.

Just speculation as this was just a dick move toward fans on their part.

Re: Talking Point: Nintendo Needs to Learn Lessons From Its NES Mini Mistakes

Tsusasi

@shadow-wolf I think the Switch is part of the decision... especially with the Virtual Console on the way. Selling fans games for the 3rd or 4th time for ridiculous prices becomes an even harder sell if you can get 30 on one console. And I have to wonder if with all of the components and accessories along with the Switch itself (especially in light of issues with the Switch) being manufactured if Nintendo wants to retool the NES manufacturing line to make Switch related materials to increase manufacturing capacity. They may be expecting a bump in already strong sales after E3 and along side of the launch of Mario Kart.

Doesn't make the way they handled it any less douchy, but at least there are potential reasons to point to.

Re: Talking Point: Nintendo Needs to Learn Lessons From Its NES Mini Mistakes

Tsusasi

@the8thark Um... unless you want to be ignorant hats and screw people over and take a hit for being deceptive liars, then yes. If something is 'limited edition', you do have to market it as such. And yes... Nintendo most certainly DID say on numerous occasion in pretty much every market that supply would increase, that there were logistics issues that were being resolved and for everyone to be patient because regular shipments were continuing and that eventually stock levels would meet demand. What they are doing is pretty much the exact opposite of what they said. It also was said that after the holidays things would get better as well. It's only been a few months and not only have supply levels not gotten better, Nintendouche has freakin' discontinued the console. So there's more than one lesson here for everyone, but the biggest is to never trust Nintendo or take them at their word under any circumstances.

Full disclosure: I got one launch night after driving to several Walmarts in a 50 mile area. So I have one. That doesn't mean that I'm going to take Nintendo's crap.

Re: Talking Point: Nintendo Needs to Learn Lessons From Its NES Mini Mistakes

Tsusasi

@the8thark This was never marketed as limited edition. Show me on the site where is says that. To the contrary, every Nintendo mouthpiece was spouting how supplies would improve, shipments would continue and even ramp up at some point to meet demand once logistic issue were resolved, and no one need worry; more were on the way. As far as this being a huge success for Nintendo... maybe as a marketing tool (until the backlash from all of their planned/controlled supply 'issues' catches up with their archaic asses). But how do you call something a huge success when they robbed themselves of probably triple the revenue they could have had, had the console been in decent supply. Even that may be underselling it's popularity. It may have even sold more than that. But Nintendo decided to play their ridiculous games with supply and probably robbed themselves of at least 3 or 4 times what they sold. Yes Nintendo are selling through their existing units... but screwing yourself out of revenue of that magnitude to create buzz is just backwards and stupid. So much money going to worthless scalpers lowlifes that could have gone into their own pockets.

http://www.nintendo.com/nes-classic/

Check it out. No where does it say or even hint at the system being limited.

Re: Citigroup Analysts Predict Nintendo Will Release a Mini-Switch in 2019

Tsusasi

If anything, a future new iteration will be a refinement addressing all of the b.s. issues of the current model and hopefully a build that doesn't scratch easily or warp (and don't give me the mindless Nintendrone line that it isn't an issue) - my and one of my friend's Switch have already begun to warp... and I haven't played more than an hour or two at a time. He's played a bit more... but it shouldn't be a thing to begin with.

So refinements and more power and a version with more memory. And hopefully a quality glass screen and better battery. But not a mini. Wth.

Re: Nintendo Has Discontinued The NES Classic Edition in North America

Tsusasi

Nintendo have become worthless hats. Useless greedy pieces of crap. ESPECIALLY where NA is concerned.

And they never said it was going to be a short run. What they DID say was for fans to hang on because there would be plenty more coming. More than once when reports surfaced that Nintendo were going to end production, Nintendo officials lied and said that production would not only continue and shipments go out regularly, they also said that production would actually increase. Lying sacks of crap.

Re: Monopoly Coming To Nintendo Switch With HD Rumble Dice Rolling

Tsusasi

If it's priced right, this is actually brilliant. Great possibilities for other board games or even dice and CCG games for playing on the go - less set up and clean up time and not having to worry about space for physical cards and gameplay pieces makes this quite a tempting proof of concept for other companies to examine.

Re: Behold The Bulky Joy-Con AA Battery Pack

Tsusasi

@skywake And Nintendo can spin their marketing of the battery packs in such a manner that casual gamers and families (especially those exposed/used to wiimotes on the Wii and Wii U) will end up picking them up thinking that it's going to be needed at some point.

Re: Behold The Bulky Joy-Con AA Battery Pack

Tsusasi

@skywake I don't know if you missed it, because they announce it on this site... but Nintendo has partnered for officially licensed Switch branded micro SD cards. So there's that. And at the other end of it is saving on system costs in order to make more money on their system... instead of giving gamers the storage that they will need.

Re: Namco Museum Is Coming To Nintendo Switch This Summer

Tsusasi

The first thing that flew into my head wasn't anything to do with Namco games, but with the vertical orientation of arcade games. If properly implemented for arcade games that were originally vertically oriented - and especially Shmups - this could make retro gaming pretty awesome on the Switch. A needed bit of out-of-the-box positive news.

Daydreaming about playing Radiant Silvergun and Raiden games!

Re: Behold The Bulky Joy-Con AA Battery Pack

Tsusasi

@skywake Not even remotely comparable, and no one uses the move anyway. Not to mention, the PS4 already has a reasonable amount of memory right out of the box, unlike the Switch's sad, ridiculous and embarrassing 32GB (less due to system usage). No need for a hard drive anytime soon. And you can get more storage for cheaper with hard drives than with cards. The Switch is a money pit and a greedy cash grab.

Re: Standalone Nintendo Switch Dock Set Available From May 19th

Tsusasi

This is freakin' disgusting. Screw Nintendo. That piece of crap dock was bad enough as a pack-in, but to sell it at that price and then charge that much extra for cables? Bull crap and screw them. I have a friend that's looking for a Switch and I'm seriously considering selling him mine. Except he's a friend and I don't know if I want to do that to him. With all of the issues (which I'm sure plenty of Nintendrones on here are going to come at me for mentioning... because they are in denial that there ARE any issues) and the 'money-pit/wallet-suck' nature of the system, I think it would end up a sore spot.

Again - there is absolutely no way in hell Nintendo can justify these price points. Screw them.

Re: Fresh Data Shows That Four Out Of Five Pokémon GO Players Have Given Up Hunting

Tsusasi

@PlywoodStick See, that's just it. They weren't either of those things. It was parks, one of which was WAY out of the way from residential and the other didn't cause any issues either. Just sad pieces of crap that couldn't stand to see others enjoy themselves doing something different and hard for them to understand. A bunch of useless jerks.

The one park had an issue with smokers throwing butts on the ground... for it's entire existence. Along came Pokemon Go players and suddenly they are to blame. No one bothered to mention that there was no increase in butts or garbage... or that some of the GO players had taken it upon themselves to clean up messes that weren't theirs.

So yeah. There was no reason to pull the stops.

At. All.

Also worth mentioning that there were some menacing neighbors that threatened GO players... threatened to fight them... in the public park. Which was about 30 or 40 yards from where they lived. In the day time.

So, yeah.

Re: Fresh Data Shows That Four Out Of Five Pokémon GO Players Have Given Up Hunting

Tsusasi

Niantic also lost users with all of their technical issues, poorly though out chances, badly implemented or missing features, blocking 3rd party trackers/maps and shutting down Pokestops. There were a few really fun spots in our area that no longer exist. There was no reason to shut them down. The blindly acquiesced to take-down requests without finding out if there was any merit to them. Events are actually good fun and that's the only time I bother any more. They came too late and are too far in-between.

Re: Video: Here's How Switch Snake Pass Compares To The PlayStation 4 Version

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@Skunkfish Overall visual quality, richness of the color (Switch version washed out), texture quality is far FAR better, shadows and lighting are FAR superior on the PS4 version (nearly nonexistent on the Switch version), geometry obviously... the PS4 version is superior visually in a very noticeable way.

That's not to say it won't play well or be fun, but rather that the comment in the article wasn't even close to being true or accurate.

Re: Seiken Densetsu Collection Announced For Nintendo Switch

Tsusasi

@Manjushri I wasn't talking about handheld. Not everyone wants to play on a tiny screen for hours to get their rpg fix. I referenced home systems and that is the comparison I was making; not small screens. So not even close to an exaggeration. If anything, I didn't come down hard enough on Nintendo for not getting iterations of these IPs on their home consoles or courting the big rpg developers more... vigorously.

Re: Seiken Densetsu Collection Announced For Nintendo Switch

Tsusasi

Slim chance of NoA doing anything like this for their consumers. Their heads are so far up their asses it's sickening. Something like this could move systems. Right now if you're a jrpg fan, you buy a PS4 (or even a PS3). You don't look to Nintendo systems... which is crazy considering the heavy hitters that were on Nintendo hardware.

Not only would these games move systems, it also would signal that Nintendo is committed to making fans happy and actually listening, making the virtual console a serious threat on the Switch and committing to supporting it across all genres and that they've embraced niche genres that weren't well represented in the last couple of generations of Nintendo hardware.

Re: "No Widespread Technical Problems" With Switch Joy-Cons, Claims Nintendo

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@Courtest1 But you bring up a valid point that I have avoided talking about because I felt I would just get attacked again by Nintendrones, and that is perception. Regardless of anyone's position on this defect, the fact remains that this is the negative vibe out there regarding the quality, fit and finish on the Switch. It's increasingly being viewed as cheaply made with a price tag that doesn't reflect the build or horsepower.

The viral and immediate nature of social and online media means that this perception could spread quickly. You'd think Nintendo would want to get out ahead of a defect/bad design decision they absolutely knew about, but they choose to spin and obfuscate.

Re: "No Widespread Technical Problems" With Switch Joy-Cons, Claims Nintendo

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@KittyKatta I'm right there with you. It doesn't make sense to replace right now when there's a real design issue. It pisses me off because Reggie and Nintendo know exactly what the issue is and this whole 'fact finding' b.s. is just stalling tactics to push this issue out past the launch window so they can talk about it AFTER they've moved units.

Re: Report: Amazon UK Offering Partial Refunds Following Nintendo Switch Joy-Con Complaints

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@TheLZdragon It is widespread. It's now a known design flaw. The right joy con has a dedicated bluetooth antenna. The left does not. A modder added one and not only fixed the issue but increased the joy con range. An actual physical, indisputable design flaw: Zero antenna. So yeah... if every joy con has this flaw, it is widespread. The vast majority of people including families and especially families that bought this for younger children aren't going to talk about it online, don't have a vlog or youtube channel, and don't use forums. Many may just accept it as the nature of the technology (which it is not) because they don't know better. Others will quietly return them to the retailer. Few will reach out to Nintendo themselves when they can just go back to Target or Walmart and bare minimum get a store credit. Others may not have experienced it yet because of how they are playing games on the system/using the controllers (or not if they went right to the pro controller).