But I am actually explaining my reasons you are just saying things can change that will magically make Nintendo and Microsft money if they make a deal.
Tell you what if it happens, you can gloat about it.
Removing third party games already on eshop is not really going to fly as then the value of Gamepass/Xcloud goes down so doesn't benefit Microsoft.
Also the point I am raising is if people have access to a large library of games for a set amount each month then they don't need to purcahse any other games, yes Nintendo games included, so Nintendo loses out.
Also if you are playing online games on Xcloud/Gamepass do you need a Xbox Live Gold subscription or the Nintendo Switch online subscription?
Too many variables, too much potential for loss in sales for games on the eshop, never gonna happen.
Xcloud/Gamepass would eat into Nintendo's own game sales. Why would people pay the prices for third party games, or even Nintendo's own games, on Switch it they have access to a large library of games for 15 quid a month (or whatever it is).
So Nintendo would be losing out on money from their own games sales and the 30% cut from a lot of potential third party game sales on the eshop.
I don't think even a 50% cut of the subscription fee for Gamepass/Xcloud would cover the potential losses.
Nintendo is all about videgames and relies on the strength of its own videogames series and them selling well.
Why on earth would they allow Microsoft cloud/Gamepass onto Switch to eat into Nintendo's own sales. Remember they get 30% of sales from third parties too.
It is a cool game, not a looker but the sense of speed and momentum is great and the controls are very responsive and it has a nice chill soundtrack. Ended up playing for two hours without realising which is always the sign of a good game.
A relationship between Microsoft and Nintendo already exists. From being the first to agree cross platform play, having Microsoft games on Switch such as Ori and Super Lucky Tale, and Banjo in Smash. So doesn't necessarily mean anything new. Nintendo will never allow Gamepass on Switch.
I can't stand procedurally generated games normally but this looks like an instance where it will work because it is about telling a story rather than fighting hordes of enemies or the like.
See I am not sure I would go as far as say better value for money for MS and Sony over Nintendo as a lot of the Nintendo games mean a lot more to me than games available on Xbox or Sony platforms. It isn't always just about money saved but is the money spent actually worth it.
That is why Nintendo does get away with it as their first party games are just magic in the main!
Yeah you are correct. For "AAA" third party titles I would mostly get them for the PS4 although somewhat ironically I played Doom 2016 on Switch first, loved it and then bought it for PS4 for 60fps.
There are plenty of third party games I would prefer on Switch though for handheld mode but usually the more undemanding games like Hollow Knight so they are not overly compromised.
Big thing for me is exclusives and for me Sony and Nintendo are leagues ahead of Microsoft so I currently have my PS4/ Switch combo hopefully soon to be a PS5/ Switch combo, which provides the best of all worlds.
Also regarding Gamepass, I just have no interest in a games subscription service. My backlog between my two current consoles is insane! As I love playing games online I have Sony throwing me a couple of games a month already on top of my possibly hundreds of games on both systems.
If it is your first console though then a Series S with Gamepass is a great deal no doubt.
If I recall there was originally only only theme and then they started doing special events to unlock more and eventually introduced the ticket system which you could earn through daily play to unlock the previous special themes.
The fact all the Pac-Man themes are available day one doesn't bode well for that approach.
It took a while for Tetris 99 to offer the themes via tickets or special events through the NSO free battle game. Might be the same here but then again this is a Bandai Namco release rather than Nintendo and maybe they are not as forthcoming with that approach.
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Re: Xbox Cloud On Switch? Nintendo Won't Allow It, Says Industry Analyst
@duffmmann
And I am saying more money can be made by Nintendo by not allowing it to happen for reasons already set out.
I also find it sweet that you think either company would care about the consumer being satisfied!
What will be will be.
Re: Xbox Cloud On Switch? Nintendo Won't Allow It, Says Industry Analyst
@duffmmann
But I am actually explaining my reasons you are just saying things can change that will magically make Nintendo and Microsft money if they make a deal.
Tell you what if it happens, you can gloat about it.
Re: Xbox Cloud On Switch? Nintendo Won't Allow It, Says Industry Analyst
@duffmmann
Removing third party games already on eshop is not really going to fly as then the value of Gamepass/Xcloud goes down so doesn't benefit Microsoft.
Also the point I am raising is if people have access to a large library of games for a set amount each month then they don't need to purcahse any other games, yes Nintendo games included, so Nintendo loses out.
Also if you are playing online games on Xcloud/Gamepass do you need a Xbox Live Gold subscription or the Nintendo Switch online subscription?
Too many variables, too much potential for loss in sales for games on the eshop, never gonna happen.
Re: Xbox Cloud On Switch? Nintendo Won't Allow It, Says Industry Analyst
@duffmmann
Xcloud/Gamepass would eat into Nintendo's own game sales. Why would people pay the prices for third party games, or even Nintendo's own games, on Switch it they have access to a large library of games for 15 quid a month (or whatever it is).
So Nintendo would be losing out on money from their own games sales and the 30% cut from a lot of potential third party game sales on the eshop.
I don't think even a 50% cut of the subscription fee for Gamepass/Xcloud would cover the potential losses.
Never happening.
Re: Xbox Cloud On Switch? Nintendo Won't Allow It, Says Industry Analyst
@duffmmann
The logisitcs of that would simply be too complicated with too many variables to happen.
Re: Xbox Cloud On Switch? Nintendo Won't Allow It, Says Industry Analyst
@rjejr
Difference is Free to Start games and DLC benefit Nintendo.
Gamepass/Xcloud on Nintendo platforms will not benefit Nintendo.
Re: Xbox Cloud On Switch? Nintendo Won't Allow It, Says Industry Analyst
@Ghost_of_Hasashi
So you accept they aren't services and therefore Nintendo weren't lying?
Xcloud will never be right for Nintendo for reasons I have already mentioned in my first comment above.
Never happening.
Re: Xbox Cloud On Switch? Nintendo Won't Allow It, Says Industry Analyst
@Ghost_of_Hasashi
Those are individual games priced individually and not streaming services so Nintendo have not lied about that.
Also the tweet is clearly about game streaming services not the likes of Hulu.
Re: Xbox Cloud On Switch? Nintendo Won't Allow It, Says Industry Analyst
Of course it won't happen.
Nintendo is all about videgames and relies on the strength of its own videogames series and them selling well.
Why on earth would they allow Microsoft cloud/Gamepass onto Switch to eat into Nintendo's own sales. Remember they get 30% of sales from third parties too.
Never happening.
Re: Nintendo Switch Online Members Can Now Play Descenders For Free (Europe)
@JuiceMan_V
Yes.
Edit: Now I have tried it, I am glad I did.
It is a cool game, not a looker but the sense of speed and momentum is great and the controls are very responsive and it has a nice chill soundtrack. Ended up playing for two hours without realising which is always the sign of a good game.
Would pick up on sale.
Re: Random: Nintendo Switch Appears In The Background Of Yet Another Xbox Video
@Entrr_username
Maybe that is sleepinglion's idea of fun?
Re: Random: Nintendo Switch Appears In The Background Of Yet Another Xbox Video
A relationship between Microsoft and Nintendo already exists. From being the first to agree cross platform play, having Microsoft games on Switch such as Ori and Super Lucky Tale, and Banjo in Smash. So doesn't necessarily mean anything new. Nintendo will never allow Gamepass on Switch.
Re: UK Charts: Switch Games Make Up Half Of The Top Ten, But FIFA Steals Animal Crossing's Crown
Battle of the million sellers!
Re: Soapbox: 'I'll Play It On Game Pass' Is Becoming Common, But Does That Affect Switch eShop?
When Xbox gets some worthwhile exclusives then I will give the Series X a look. That seems to be a while off still.
Gamepass I have no interest in as I have enough of a backlog as is without actually subscribing to a whole new one.
Re: Leisure Suit Larry: Wet Dreams Dry Twice Releases On Switch In May
@jump
Larry TO smash!
Re: Leisure Suit Larry: Wet Dreams Dry Twice Releases On Switch In May
If we can have videogames filled with endless violence we can have videogames with a bit of old fashioned smut.
As long as it is age rated appropriately I don't see an issue.
Re: Mini Review: Future Aero Racing S Ultra - Clever Ideas, But FAR From A New F-Zero
Bloody hell that music is just evil!
Re: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Shredder’s Revenge Confirmed For Switch, New Trailer
Can't wait for this, hope the soundtrack comes close to Turtles in Time too.
Re: Road 96 Is An Intriguing Procedurally-Generated Story Game Where You Call All The Shots
@neogyo
I can't stand procedurally generated games normally but this looks like an instance where it will work because it is about telling a story rather than fighting hordes of enemies or the like.
Will keep my eye on this.
Re: The Balan Wonderworld Demo Is Being Taken Down Today
@jump
Balan for trash!
Re: The Balan Wonderworld Demo Is Being Taken Down Today
This is worse than losing Mario 3D All Stars and Mario 35 put together!
Re: Soapbox: Hurry Up And Release The Switch Pro Already, My Switch Is Dying
My main takeaway from this is I don't think you should be allowed to own a dog!
Re: Rumour: Is Something Going On Between Microsoft And Nintendo?
No chance Gamepass is coming to Switch.
No chance.
Re: Good Job! Is The Next Nintendo Switch Online Trial In Japan
@Anti-Matter
Better to have loved and lost than not loved at all.
Re: UK Charts: Animal Crossing Returns To Number One, Surpasses One Million Physical Copies Sold
@COVIDberry
Who says that in the weekly chart articles?
Re: UK Charts: Animal Crossing Returns To Number One, Surpasses One Million Physical Copies Sold
Guess that means Animal Crossing is just for all the chavs and casuals too like Fifa then?
Another great week for Switch.
Re: Feature: Zelda: Twilight Princess' Flipped World On Wii Made Me Go A Little Cucco
@Kevember
Rubbish.
Re: Japanese Charts: Monster Hunter Rise Stays Top In A Nintendo-Dominated Top Ten
@WiltonRoots
I'd say so! Her reaction was brilliant!
Re: Japanese Charts: Monster Hunter Rise Stays Top In A Nintendo-Dominated Top Ten
@WiltonRoots
Ha! I was watching a youtube clip of Billy Connolly saying that on Parkinsons last night!
Re: PAC-MAN 99: Private Matches - How To Play With Friends
@RodSD64
I like your style!
Re: Every Single Bethesda Game On Switch Is Currently On Sale
@Moistnado
I wasn't accusing him of Nintendo hating.
Re: Switch Rating For Borderlands 3: Director's Cut Was Apparently An "Error"
DIRECT INCOMING!
Re: Random: Smooth McGroove Returns After Long Hiatus With An Acapella New Super Mario Bros. Cover
The main thing is this guy is feeling well enough to do this again.
Re: PAC-MAN 99: Private Matches - How To Play With Friends
I don't have 99 friends.
Re: Every Single Bethesda Game On Switch Is Currently On Sale (Europe)
@Gamecuber
I buy Resident Evil 4 on every console I own, it's just a rule lol
Re: No More Heroes III Broadcast Shows New Footage And A Trilogy Box Set For Japan
That was brilliantly insane.
Re: Every Single Bethesda Game On Switch Is Currently On Sale (Europe)
@Gamecuber
See I am not sure I would go as far as say better value for money for MS and Sony over Nintendo as a lot of the Nintendo games mean a lot more to me than games available on Xbox or Sony platforms. It isn't always just about money saved but is the money spent actually worth it.
That is why Nintendo does get away with it as their first party games are just magic in the main!
Re: Every Single Bethesda Game On Switch Is Currently On Sale (Europe)
@Gamecuber
Yeah you are correct. For "AAA" third party titles I would mostly get them for the PS4 although somewhat ironically I played Doom 2016 on Switch first, loved it and then bought it for PS4 for 60fps.
There are plenty of third party games I would prefer on Switch though for handheld mode but usually the more undemanding games like Hollow Knight so they are not overly compromised.
Big thing for me is exclusives and for me Sony and Nintendo are leagues ahead of Microsoft so I currently have my PS4/ Switch combo hopefully soon to be a PS5/ Switch combo, which provides the best of all worlds.
Also regarding Gamepass, I just have no interest in a games subscription service. My backlog between my two current consoles is insane! As I love playing games online I have Sony throwing me a couple of games a month already on top of my possibly hundreds of games on both systems.
If it is your first console though then a Series S with Gamepass is a great deal no doubt.
Re: Every Single Bethesda Game On Switch Is Currently On Sale (Europe)
@Gamecuber
Until Microsoft are able to provide a worthwhile bunch of exclusive games from all their studio acqusitions then it is 250 quid too much.
I am sticking with Sony and Nintendo for now.
Re: Gallery: Every PAC-MAN 99 DLC Theme - All 29 Custom Skins For PAC-MAN 99
@TryToBeHopeful
Twice more than me! I have finished second a few times but have yet to win a game. One day!
Pac-Man 99 hasn't clicked with me to be honest but will give it another go at some point.
Re: Gallery: Every Pac-Man 99 DLC Theme - All 29 Custom Skins For Pac-Man 99
@TryToBeHopeful
Cheers!
Yeah it does seem a bit (a lot) much for the DLC.
Re: Gallery: Every Pac-Man 99 DLC Theme - All 29 Custom Skins For Pac-Man 99
@Clyde_Radcliffe
If I recall there was originally only only theme and then they started doing special events to unlock more and eventually introduced the ticket system which you could earn through daily play to unlock the previous special themes.
The fact all the Pac-Man themes are available day one doesn't bode well for that approach.
Re: Whisker Squadron Has Serious Star Fox Vibes, But With Cats
"Procedurally generated"
And I'm out.
Re: Gallery: Every Pac-Man 99 DLC Theme - All 29 Custom Skins For Pac-Man 99
@Kilamanjaro
It took a while for Tetris 99 to offer the themes via tickets or special events through the NSO free battle game. Might be the same here but then again this is a Bandai Namco release rather than Nintendo and maybe they are not as forthcoming with that approach.
Re: Gallery: Every Pac-Man 99 DLC Theme - All 29 Custom Skins For Pac-Man 99
Gave it a try and got bored after 2 games.
To be fair Pac-Man has never been a favourite of mine.
Back to Tetris 99!
Re: Every Single Bethesda Game On Switch Is Currently On Sale (Europe)
@NGNYS
Calm yourself.
Also I highly doubt Switch will beat PS2 or Nintendo DS in sales.
Re: Every Single Bethesda Game On Switch Is Currently On Sale (Europe)
@Mr-Fuggles777
Not everyone has a PC, Xbox or Playstation lying around.
Re: Rumour: Evidence Of A "New" Nintendo Switch Dock Supposedly Datamined In System Update 12.0.0
@nhSnork
I am personally hoping for it to be called the Super Switch Series SX Pro NX!
Re: Global Sales Data Suggests Balan Wonderworld Has Massively Flopped
@AlienX
I wouldn't mind seeing 20 reasons! I count about 7 in your post.
Edit: I'm only messing, seems like homework!
Re: PAC-MAN 99 Announced Exclusively For Nintendo Switch Online
Nice, will give that a bite.