Rumour: Is Something Going On Between Microsoft And Nintendo?

Honestly wouldnt mind it.

Game Pass style would be amazing for switch, but its probably not what were going to get.

See you all in September

Either xcloud on switch or Chief in smash id personally say that xcloud on switch is more likely because we already got 2 MS reps in ssbu

Just give me NHL for Switch or PC and i'll be happy...

HAHAHAHA

I called this 4 months ago and the thread I opened to talk about it got s&*% posted so much they had to lock it.

The writing is on the wall. MS has refused to give any answer then "MS studio games will be on all platform that support game pass" for months now.

When the interview asks "So ... PC and Xbox?" they just repeat "on all platforms that support game pass".

It's not just that, there has been a lot of writing on the walls, but that's some of the most blatant "things that make you go hummmm"

Nintendo start using Azure.

Nothing ground-breaking, but significant.

MICROSOFT TO BUY NINTENDO!!! ;p

XBox gamepass coming to the Switch Pro would be amazing.

X cloud on switch actually makes sense and would be pretty sweet.

I played cyberpunk 2077 with practically no issues on my fricken ipad thru a safari browser using a ps4 controller. If I can do that I have no doubts on streaming other games with the switch!

"Not to get everyone's hopes up prematurely.."
Videogame websites live on getting everyone's hopes up and like a fool I click every time.

As long as I get conker, banjo and battletoads back in Nintendo, I'm happy.

Just Microsoft outlook on switch.

Nothing special.

Microsoft Xbox with Nintendo games. Best hardware and features with the best games! Woohooo

Forza Horizon is coming to a Nintendo console!!

Zero compromise port!

@Friendly Minesweeper on Switch

The rumors around the Switch are getting super annoying for me. MLB The Show, Game Pass, Switch Pro ... and nothing really happens except Tony Hawk.

I think rare releases some games like banjoo and conquer on switch and Xbox same date release. (60% possible)
Might see halo collection on switch.(30% possible)
Xbox gamers pass on switch (50% possible maybe only Xbox exclusives??)

If I could get an Xbox and still get the latest Nintendo games on it, I could see myself getting an Xbox.

Master chief confirmed

It's Halo for Switch and Zelda for Xbox. lol

Goldeneye on switch

@Yanina I forgot about Tony Hawk! Yeah the rumours are pretty tedious now. I don’t know why I read these articles..

If Microsoft hadn't just released their newest consoles I may be slightly more excited.

At best it's probably a shared game, in all likelihood probably nothing at all

GIVE ME SPACE CADET PINBALL OR GIVE ME DEATH

"We're not about to spin a whole news piece out of a video game company boss enjoying the video games of other companies" ... but 15 reminder articles about Mario disappearing on March 31. No offense at all, Kate, just saying.

But yeah, there seems to be increasing smoke around this story, and where there is smoke, there is usually fire. GamePass on Switch, even in limited form, would be a win-win.

So it'll be another Xbox exclusive indie getting shifted over.

@dustinprewitt This all day. RARE back with Nintendo Finally!

@Doombario yes and yes 🙌

I'd love to see bigger integration of Xbox on Switch, and generally continued support.

Seeing future sequels to franchises that already exist, like Doom and Outer Worlds, and brand new franchises for the platform, like The Evil Within and MCC. Obviously including support for xbox network and Game Pass.

Oh, and patching xbox achievements to existing Titles. I'd go back and replay my entire xbox-Switch library for the cheese.

Sounds like Nintendo is finally going to make use of the Joy Con’s IR camera, so that Skype can finally come to Switch

Microsoft EDGE for Switch - Since they have a running ARM version already, and it's coming too for Xbox Series S|X - that would be also a nice feature for Switch Because i can also see the "old" MS EDGE Logo on his shelf!!!!!!!!!

Game Pass on Switch = people not buying multiplat 3rd party games on Switch ever again and Nintendo not making money from 3rd party sales. I don't see it happening. I would love to see Master Chief in Smash or something like that.

It will just be smash bros character nothing special

Xcloud on NS and a form of Game pass too.

I seriously doubt that they would collaborate on a brand new console tbh.

I don't think Gamepass is coming to Switch IMO.

I do think Halo is coming to Switch in the distant future.

Master Chief in Smash would be pretty cool, as would the Master Chief Collection on Switch. But, dear God, I hope this means Rare Replay on Switch.

@yuwarite Master Chief won't be in smash imo.

I say that Doom Slayer will come though.

Get this the "Switch Pro" is actually a hybrid console. You can still play regular Switch games but they would be releasing games exclusively for it.
Either that and/or Microsoft is either brought a large chunk of Nintendo or outright brought them...

MS declared a truce w/ Nintendo when MS had bottomed out. During this time, they released a few good MS games on Switch. Then MS fortunes began to brighten and they cut off this cooperation. Phil Spenser got annoyed because his interviews questions were all about the Switch. I don't see more deals between them now, because neither MS or Nintendo really think they need each other anymore.

I think a Microsoft/Nintendo partnership is almost inevitable at some point. Microsoft is and always will be a complete irrelevance in Japan, teaming up with Nintendo would be a huge benefit to them. The benefits to Nintendo would be attracting a more 'hardcore audience' making them a more well rounded company in the west. Particularly with Microsoft controlling Bethesda now, if they cut off those releases to Sony platforms but supported Nintendo it could be a very interesting end to this generation.

Eh, silly, but I'll humour it. Unlike all the Anonymous Insiders out there, a Switch on Phil's shelf is at least something living people have seen and have on documented footage.😆 Speculation? Bethesda is with Microsoft now, so I'll just be here, speculating some Dishonored ports. You know how I get.

Wow. This is based on something so thin, so speculative. It's really a shame that people like Grubb and other "insiders" and "leakers" hold such sway, and get such attention now, irrespective of how often they're wrong.

@Oh_Well I seriously doubt Microsoft will want to give up their flagship franchise and make it multi-platform.

I don't think Master Chief will be in there as HIS game will have to come to switch or share a history with Nintendo.

But Doom slayer can come to smash now. Doom slayer is now owned by Microsoft so this could mean Doom slayer can come to smash.

And we have DOOM on NS too

More indie shovelware.

Come on! Do you really think AAA Xbox games will come to the Switch?! That's both illogical and dumb.

@DK-Fan Ikr. That's what I am saying. I said Master Chief won't come to smash and MC collection to switch won't

One word, only one word is needed. Clues to that word. Rare, Nintendo, Microsoft, rights issues..........GOLDENEYE remake. That’s my bet anyway.

@Folkloner
Honestly the way Nintendo has been so lacking the few years it's no wonder people are so thirsty for leaks, literally begging for some hope through this long draught that they'll believe anything...
What I mean is you can't blame people for being so gullible in these dark times...

@Folkloner unfortunately for you, Grubb can be right here.

He was the one of many who leaked the Mass Effect Legendary Edition, and also the one who leaked the 7 EA games for switch

Been saying for a while now Xcloud on Switch and the whole Game Pass on your screen motto but does go against interviews with likes of Matt Booty.

I own all/will own all three systems but if I was just on Xbox, I would wonder what I'm getting from this as always seems to be Xbox on Switch but not the other way.

That maybe a collaboration on something like Goldeneye Remake would be better for all parties.

@nhSnork yeah we could get older bethesda games on switch though. Can we say Evil Within for one?

@masofdas yeah

Golden Eye remake ONLY on NS, Xbox, and PC

Sorry Playstation

How about Nintendo games coming to Game Pass?

If Game Pass or Xcloud comes to NS, we can still get future Bethesda games on NS via Xcloud/Game Pass.

Xcloud is essentially cloud streaming the game pass games and Spencer said future Bethesda games will come to platforms with game pass on it. So right now it is PC, Xbox , and mobile via Xcloud.

The switch could be included in that as well. So essentially switch owners can play newer Bethesda games but Playstation owners can't

I would love to see XCloud on Switch. As much as I love gaming on my PC the Switch is still my preferred ecosystem.

@TSR3 in the Nintendo switch specific Game Pass probably.

If there is a switch specific game pass with all 3rd party games and Nintendo's first party games for 10 dollars a month, I will be happy

My 3 predictions
Gamepass streaming
Master Chief in Smash
Nintendo licensing Smarty Delivery for the Switch Pro (to make sure the console only downloads the right version)

I don't mind them working together but I just hope and pray that Nintendo stays fully in charge or their IP and hardware. No buyouts, no collabs where only one of the two is in charge.

I think you meant to post this on 4/1.

It really could be anything or it could even be nothing at all. It would definitely be interesting if Microsoft was assisting with development on the rumored 4k switch dock. Master Chief in smash or a return of Banjo-Kazooie on both Xbox and Switch would also be welcomed.

Phil Spencer family photo’s are coming to the Nintendo eshop.

@anoyonmus Why not? It would serve as perfect advertising for the upcoming Halo Infinite and persuade some Switch owners to consider buying the game/console.

Do we real want to support and embrace a subscription model? 😬

I just recall how many rather physical media. 😝

We might see something coming since Microsoft is trying hard to get that Yen and well which platform is the most popular one at the moment? 🤔😝

@LillianC14 nice.

My 3 predictions.

1. Goldeneye 007 remake for NS, Xbox, and PC or Rare Replay to switch
2. Xcloud or a form of Xbox Game Pass on NS
3. Doom Slayer for Smash

It is probably just that there are a lot of Microsoft ports and smash crossover IPs on switch that this is merely cross promotion

@yuwarite maybe.

But essentially, Microsoft is losing one of their key exclusives and I don't they should do that. Not only that, us switch owners will then ask Microsoft to port Halo Infinite to switch and I remember that Phil Spencer said he didn't really like port-begging

I for one think Doom Slayer is more likely to come rather than Master Chief due to Doom Slayer having a presence on Nintendo consoles rather than Halo.

Master Chief would be a great final climactic character for Smash. Though loaning Nintendo the Banjo IP for Banjo Threeie would be a dream come true.

@Johnnel perhaps.

Maybe Nintendo will still stick with the current switch for a while but have a new and more powerful dock instead rather than a revision imo.

I would love if they bring gears of wars trilogy to the switch, that game was so much fun.

maybe a cross over game between Halo and a Nintendo franchise

Maybe Switch could finally see games like Fallout 3 and NV release on it. Ngl, that would be swell.

As long as the friendship comes with Rare Replay...

Master Cheif coming to Smash Bros Ultimate or Banjo Theei releasing on Switch?

Honestly the last one is the only one I care about, return Rare back to Nintendo so we can finally have Banjo Kazookie back on Switch. K thanks.

I would love to see Nintendo do the portable device and Xbox do the home console. Cross-platform & games from Xbox on switch and vice versa. Big demanding games on the Xbox and lesser demanding games on the Switch. I'd love to see a modern Zelda that would utilize Xbox series x specs and then a different zelda that would run on the portable switch. I dunno, just a thought.

Just gimme dat banjo

Definitely buff stutt going on.

This made me laugh:

"we're not about to spin a whole news piece out of a video game company boss enjoying the video games of other companies"

Rare Replay, Banjo, and/or Killer Instinct would be fabulous on the Switch.

Rare Replay on Switch & hopefully more of Rare’s back catalogue

I just want Rare Replay on Switch.

Rumours:
MS: kojima?
Sony: oh yeah! We have a gamepass "counterpunch"
MS: nintendo?
Sony: 😶...dammit..

xcloud on Switch, probably. Not too interesting for me, but nice for people who don't mind streaming their games, I guess.

@Iggy-Koopa BRO THAT'D BE SIGNIFICANT AF

Gamepass would be cool. So would selling Rare to Nintendo.

I'd be happy with Rare Replay, other than that I'd be pretty much good.

All I can think of is gamepass, in which case, yeah that would be awesome! It's not even that groundbreaking of a thing to do, but doing it would be good on all sides.

I would pay THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS for Rare Replay on Switch.

Is that shelf a liminal space?

@HeadPirate
When the interview asks "So ... PC and Xbox?" they just repeat "on all platforms that support game pass".
Phil actually laughs before saying exclusive to all platforms that surport Gamepass!
So yeah, I believe Gamepass is on the way to the Switch.

I hope you all have good time with gamepass in the near future. My preference will always be port over cloud.

@MatthewTaranto : I would pay THREE HUNDRED AND ONE DOLLARS!

@Iggy-Koopa The cloud service they have is already Azure

There is no way a full fat Gamepass would work on someone else's closed system due to third parties. It would be kinda like Jean de Flourette where the farmer builds a dam upstream and it drys up another farmers land (which he wanted to buy.) So it would have to be some kind of first party exclusive deal. which let's face it, is where the money is for Microsoft and would be a huge moment in gaming! Would be incredible tbh!

Master Chief in Smash would be blooming marvelous.

Nintendo partnering with Microsoft to help their online infra structure could be good news.

Bringing Rare Replay to Switch would be a no brainer.

Managing to get a revamped Goldeneye back to the public would be huge.

Cuphead dlc / physical at some point?

Honestly, there is so much they could do together, and quite frankly anything they do would be amazing (for both companies.)

Ok, my favourite idea (sorry, my mind tends to wander.) Halo comes to Switch...with extra Nintendo content (like they do.) And it's only Samus init!

N64 mini with all the Rare games on it...... or Rare Replay on Switch!!

There is no way Nintendo, the highly conservative business company would be even remotely willing to open up the Switch to Gamepass streaming, even with the briefcase full of cash Microsoft probably turned up in Kyoto with.

However I see no reason why Microsoft wouldn’t publish more of their 1st party games on Switch. It has a big user base, many of which do not own a second console beyond a second Switch. There are plenty of Xbox 360 titles that would run perfectly on Switch. Fable 2 and 3. Forza Horizon 1. Maybe even the early Halo titles?

None of this eats into Xbox market share and yet each one raises brand awareness of those franchises outside of the Xbox fan base.

I don't even need Game Pass and Cloud gaming.
Just make XBOX Series X can play Dance Dance Revolution Ultramix 1 - 4 , Dance Dance Revolution UNIVERSE 1 - 3, Kinect games.

Would love to see some older more obscure Microsoft IP’s return. Blinx the Time Sweeper or Fuzion Frenzy would be at home on switch. Of course so would Banjo.

@HeadPirate
It's just after 9:38 when Phill Spencer laughs
About Xbox games being exclusive to platforms where Gamepass exists.
It's coming to the Switch.

https://youtu.be/YJneU_qBMPM

I cant think of a single MS IP that Id want on Nintendo, MS's IPS arent really great.

So I can only assume its the other way around.

Xbone era MS was the best very entertaining to watch frail around now they invest millions into viral marketers to get people worked up over shelves while they become a all consuming blob.

I hope Nintendo don't buy Rare back.

Rare hasn't been Rare for years.

Its not the same people who made Rare special.

I would like to see XCloud and some games at Switch. Local games could be minor games (for MS point of view) like Rare Replay, Battletoads, Banjo... And the major games through XCloud. Nintendo could give the NES and SNES app to MS

An Xbox 360 emulator on Switch Pro?
There's a number of "second party" 360 titles I would love to play on my Switch Lite.
Splinter Cell: Conviction (mainly because of the extra mode Deniable Ops - one of the best "bonus" modes ever IMO - the gameplay's just so damn cool and fun), Condemned: Criminal Origins and maybe also Alan Wake.
Of third party games I would buy the Silent Hill and Saw games and Dark Sector (a really cool game made by Warframe developer Digital Extremes - a sort of Resident Evil 4.5).

Even if they just get MCC on switch I'll be happy.

@GrailUK omg

I've been saying for awhile that it just makes sense that some sort of partnership between Microsoft and Nintendo could be mutually beneficial.

Put streaming game pass on Switch via Xcloud, allow remote play of your Xbox with your Switch, and finally allow for controllers from both systems to be interchangeable, so if you connect your Switch through your Xbox via the HDMI-in port of the Xbox that you can go from playing games of either system seamlessly without even having to set down a controller.

Done right, it could feel like both systems are 2 halves of a whole, where the appeal comes from owning both devices, tempting Xbox owners to get a Switch and Switch owners to get an Xbox.

I don’t have HIGH hopes for this because it’s several years old now but Rare Replay would be my biggest hope. Yes xCloud would be great but Rare Replay almost made me buy an Xbox One.

@Poodlestargenerica

Microsoft and Sony sure, but I don't think Nintendo really cares to compete with any of them. They do what they always do and that's just for better or worse doing them. To be fair with the way Microsoft has done things for a while, they seem to not care too much about any of that too much either as they seem to just want to get you to play their games wherever they can get you to play them regardless of ecosystem.

Ironically they might even be the most cooperative out of the three despite the reputation that many tried to label them with as being the great evil coming in to pillage the industry, buy up everything and take everyone's lunch money. Sure, they all technically competing as they all want your dollar regardless, but if anything it seems like sony's the only one out of the three out there trying to compete with everyone.the most.

@GrailUK great illustration of why Game Pass/Xcloud isn't coming to Switch, and movie tip combined! The only way I can see it happening is if Nintendo really thought XCloud was a great way to get their IP into the mobile space.
I think your favourite idea is the most likely as well. While MS really want to push GamePass and XCloud, getting Halo on Switch gives them a marketing opportunity in Japan ahead of Halo Infinity. I can imagine a Halo themed Switch console to go along with this as well.

@jump lol

Anything Banjo-on-Switch-related [NOT Nuts&Bolts] will make me break down into a happy sobbing mess.

I mean, who props their Switch upright on a shelf without its dock anywhere in sight? It's definitely a little conspicuous sitting there in such an unusual fashion

Truth be told? I'd be happy with a Rare Replay: Nintendo Edition. Throw in the Donkey Kong games and Star Fox Adventures and you have a day one for me.

@TSR3 Yep, great points. Contrary to what most Youtubers would have you believe, a company doesn't just make money, It builds image, goodwill and presence etc etc yadda yadda.

I own an Xbox and I’m not a Gamepass subscriber, but if it was added to Switch I’d subscribe in a heartbeat.

GamePass on Switch would be insane. Honestly, I just want RARE REPLAY and GOLDENEYE.

Maybe he just likes the Nintendo Switch?

I like the idea of Nintendo games running on powerful hardware, I don't like the idea of all the people hung up on privacy who wouldn't play them due to Microsoft's involvement.

I smell a Halo collection in Switch. They recently brought Stubbs the Zombie to Switch, which runs on the same motor as Halo, as far as I know...

Also, probably Master Chief or Doom Slayer on Smash.

I don't bet my money on the Game Pass on Switch.

@RandomNerds Do you really think Rare or Nintendo want the return of the collectathons part 2? Sure it was good for the dawn of 3d but life has long since moved on.

The ex Banjo team brought us Yookalaylee and proved they learnt nothing in 20+ years of game making. The GE team are over at Dambuster...

I dont know what to expect to be honest, it can be something or not, But i hope banjo and kazooie returns 😊

Xbox Series S/X remote play app for Switch. Make it happen. Button layout is nearly identical.

Just give me Halo (with firefight) on switch. Digital or cart, not gamepass. That's all I want. Any Halo through 3 and ODST. Gimme. Please. Game pass would be nice, but yeah, just gimme Halo please.

@MSXplus2

For sure it is.

Step 1: Game pass on Switch.

Step 2: Nintendo buys the completely unprofitable Xbox division from MS. To be clear, that's JUST hardware. MS keeps their $20-30 billion worth of studios and go software only. A branding agreement will keep the Xbox and MS on the next console, Nintendo Xbox.

Step 3: The other side of the deal is that now that MS finally has a in with Japan, MS starts buying up Japanize studios like they are Pokémon and they gotta collect them all. All of them go game pass day one and cross play.

Step 4: Nintendo wins. They have dominated the handheld market for .... well, ever, seeing they created it and have never not been #1. And while PlayStation is a hugely successful brand, it's got nothing on the combined loyalty and good will of Nintendo AND Xbox. Plus the value is INSANE, basically every game you want to play day one included in a $200 a year pass, which you can play on Switch, PC and Xbox. It's not just exclusives ... Sony has almost no software anymore period. So now they own the home console market as well. Microsoft finally gets to dumb Xbox division, which has been losing money for 20 years, while game passes position means MS gets $20 a month from everyone who plays video games.

haha do you think they liiiiiikeee each other?

Some form of modified gamepass would be great. I'm sure they could make it recognize it's running on a Switch and filter out any games available on Switch already.

MS could use this strategy to basically make Sony PS an afterthought going forward, and (extreme outcome) have no competition if they decide to release another heavy hitter console for those that want the tech specs. With this, Nintendo consoles would effectively be the series s entry point to the xbox ecosystem.

Extreme outcome to a somewhat unlikely scenario. But hey, we're in the rumour section, dare to dream.

This would be welcomed as I'm sick of having mostly ports, infact in doing this there would be no need to get buy an xbox anymore as all you would need is a playstation 5 and a Nintendo switch to play all console games so will save me money on consoles.

Maybe Microsoft bought out Nintendo, and they are merging.

Perfect Dark on Switch? Banjo Tooie on Switch? Please and thank you.

Rare Replay (even just the N64 games) would be great on Switch. I highly doubt it would happen though.

@abbyhitter I know you're joking, but Nintendo is just worth a mere billion more than Bethesda today. If anything the real difficulty is that Nintendo is publicly traded on stock market, making any takeover highly more expensive than the current worth.

@anoyonmus Doomslayer must make it in smash first before anyone else or they be rip and tear from us.

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@anoyonmus that's not possible because they would need to get permission from the owners of the james bond/007 IP to use it and they also have to get permission from the actor who was used for James bond to use his likeness and the James bond/007 IP owner from what I've heard have become strict about using the James bond/007 IP

the only thing i see happening that was listed as a possibility to happen is that Nintendo changed their minds about not having Xbox game pass on switch and xbox game pass is going to come to switch and nothing else, and no, master chief is not coming to smash ultimate as a dlc fighter, the only way he's getting in is as a mii costume only because we already have a Microsoft rep in fighter's pass 2

ALL of the above!!

@Oh_Well also now that MS owns Bethesda/Zenimax also Fallout Ports on Switch.

@TSR3 Yes, please!

@MatthewTaranto AND you shall because that will be the exact price point MS and Nintendo will agree on per the usual “Nintendo Tax”..either that or Nintendo and MS will only make 3000 physical copies available worldwide so you’ll have to pay scalpers . Kidding of course.

@JSDude1 Yes. A 3 & New Vegas combo pack.

@desireefan36 it still could be down but yeah you are right it is unlikely

@desireefan36 yeah I doubt he would come.

But Doom Slayer might come hopefully at some point

@RiasGremory true.

But Doom slayer is now microsoft's so it is possible though.

I seriously doubt we will get Halo MCC on switch .

But look at here. https://www.dexerto.com/smash/nintendo-responds-to-fan-asking-for-rayman-to-join-smash-ultimate-1552195/

Whatever you think is happening, lower your expectations by 90% and you'll still be disappointed.

@HeadPirate Nah, all speculation , just like the release of the Nintendo Pro supposably in 2018. And then 2019. And then 2020.. Microsoft tried to buy Nintendo in the past and it wasn't pretty. I wouldn't get too hyped about anything significant.. someone did mention Azure, so it could be something like that. But Nintendo will never Merge with another 1rst party. Nintendo is Nintendo, and I think it prides itself on that

@jump Exactly what I was thinking they tried buying out Nintendo back before the first Xbox came out but they were laughed out of the room but Microsoft ain't a laughing stock anymore they thought that they couldn't do anything with gaming well look around you an entire Xbox game studios multiple studios and Microsoft owns one of the biggest games of all time: Minecraft

@anoyonmus master chief would only be allowed to be a mii costume and negotiations for doom content never went anywhere so doom content is not coming to smash ultimate, and yes, the director of doom eternal said that negotiations never went anywhere which means that doom content was never obtained, also, doom content would most likely force sakurai to change smash ultimate's rating in Japan and sakurai doesn't want to do that

@desireefan36 theres a good chance of doomslayer making it way into smash man cant rule anything out and its not like their going to put blood in it since its all about fighting and stuff.

Xcloud on switch would make sense

I just think it's Rare Replay. And maybe Battletoads. Nothing more than that.

Hopefully we get a Diddy Kong Racing sequel out of this and it would be great for if it came out on Xbox family consoles and the Switch. It would be really positive for the industry.

I'd imagine the most we'd be getting from Microsoft would be (the long awaited) games from Rare, the indie games, Bethesda games, and older Xbox-exclusives.

I don't have an Xbox so I don't care about getting Xbox services on Switch. I would love some halo, conker, battletoads, perfect dark games or something. Didn't we just get Zoo Tycoon? I think that is Microsoft?

While I can see them working together by either allowing xCloud to run natively on an upcoming Switch Pro or allowing some Nintendo games on Gamepass in exchange for some of the Bethesda titles to come to Nintendo's console, I can't see Microsoft selling them Rare. They seem quite happy with how that studio is working out for them since Spencer freed them from the handcuffs that his predecessors had placed on them.

@yuwarite Not that I think it will happen, but you could have a different library available on Switch so any multi-platform games released on Switch are not available on Game Pass. Pretty sure they do something similar on PC.

Who’se making multi platforms for Switch really besides Bethesda? Might be more profitable via Game Pass.

How about a bundle with MSFT xcloud with Nintendo Online?

@flying_night_slasher

Sure it's speculation. What the heck else would it be! I don't have a press release of anything.

This is the same type of comment I keep getting 4 months ago when I first started talking about gamepass on switch, and it basically boils down to understanding that Xbox division, a small, profitless part of MS accounting for less then 0.01% of revenue is NOT the same as MS Studios, Xbox live, or game pass, which are all insanely profitable but handed under different umbrellas. The only resources bought would be Xbox.

As for "Nintendo is Nintendo" that's just objectively false. Nintendo is a 140 year old company that buys major game studies pretty frequently and they have bought hardware assets (companies that are manufacturing parts they use) in the past as well. This wouldn't even by the first time they bought a direct competitor ... they bought SEGA. Most recently they bought Monolith and 1-up games. So "Nintendo" is 4 first party studios (NST, NTD, NERD and NSD), 7 studios they bought and run directly, and around 12 3rd party studios they own a major stack in that make games exclusively for Nintendo, like Camelot Software Planning, a 3rd party team that make the Mario Tennis and Golf series ... and one other that isn't coming to mind.

Heck they own a soccer team, a taxi company, a candy producer, and at one point has a controlling stake in an airline. That's just the realities of how large companies operate ... you buy smaller companies (which, again, XBOX division is).

Buy hey, it's far more likely I'm way off then not ... there is just a lot happening that makes me think this is going to be bigger then we think. Right now, gamepass and MS developing and hosting and online network for them (or just adding it to Live somehow) seem like pretty safe bets.

@Morph They just bought Bethesda.

Give me one good reason Master Chief would be in Smash. Like seriously ... what game does Master Chief have that’s on any Nintendo console? Name one. Exactly.
:: wipes and claps hands together ::

@RiasGremory last year the director of doom eternal said negotiations for doom content never went anywhere when a representative from Nintendo had a meeting with the head of bethesda, which means they couldn't come to any kind of agreement for doom content which in turn means doom content is not coming to smash, also, not all game genres will be represented in smash nor should they be, a first person shooter rep should not be anything more than a mii costume

No chance Gamepass is coming to Switch.

No chance.

I’m not clear on what Xbox live or Gamepass actually is. Do you get to download and ‘keep’ the games like on PS+? Is it available in every region? How many games are there? Is KOTOR one of em?

Nhl on switch pls.

@abbyhitter
That would be the absolute worst possible outcome.

@desireefan36 not really.

We already have M rated characters in smash. It is possible still.

Doom slayer has a higher chance of coming to smash than characters like Sora and Master Chief

@ChromaticDracula ikr

Why do people want Master Chief in smash anyway?

Halo is not gonna be on switch.

Doom Slayer has a better chance of coming to smash than Master Chief.

@jump what is going on with your avi?

@anoyonmus what part of 'negotiations for doom content did not go anywhere' do you not understand? negotiations that don't go anywhere means doom content is not coming to smash, also sora is way more likely than master chief or any other highly requested characters because Disney wants sora in smash as a fighter and Disney also has a great relationship with Nintendo, also, sora DOES NOT need Mickey, donald and goofy, also, just because we already have characters from m rated games in smash doesn't mean that we need more nor does it mean that we are getting another m rated character, also, not all game genres should be represented in smash ultimate with a fighter on the roster, 1st person shooters should be represented with a mii costume only and visual novel games should only be represented with spirits but it's highly unlikely that every single video game genre will be represented in smash ultimate, just because smash ultimate is a celebration of video games doesn't automatically mean that all video game genres should be represented

@HeadPirate Nintendo NEVER bought sega, just because Nintendo is letting sega games be on Nintendo systems and that Nintendo funds to have bayonetta 2 and 3 to be Nintendo exclusive games doesn't mean Nintendo bought sega

@HeadPirate Nintendo never owned a soccer team, they used to own a majority of the baseball team the Seattle mariners but they sold all but 10% to First Avenue Entertainment in 2016

@WhiteTrashGuy goldeneye can't be brought back because the owners of the 007 IP won't allow it

@UnwantedDesign Nintendo won't allow any of their IPs to be playable on other consoles

@InitialDriftS13 Nintendo doesn't want to revisit old games

Would have been very excited some time ago.. but now i side loaded xbox game pass on my android tv. And it eorks well... so i gues
S it would work on switch (pro) too, but it will be on almost everything, so ot’s not thät exciting anymore

@Poodlestargenerica even though Nintendo doesn't consider Microsoft or sony as competition, sony sure as hell consider Nintendo and Microsoft as competition, not to mention that sony still hates Nintendo and sony also has shown they no longer care about the Japanese market which is why they recently shut down the only office they had left in Japan

@anoyonmus Microsoft is highly unlikely to be getting a 2nd fighter in fighter's pass 2 and i don't think they should be allowed to get any more fighters on the roster, master chief should just be a mii costume and negotiations for doom content never went anywhere meaning doom content isn't getting into smash

I am flabbergasted that some people seem to think Nintendo would be happy having a third party game streaming service (from a competitor nonetheless which people seem to forget) that would be almost guaranteed to hit software sales on the Switch.

Some people seem to forget that the Switch is almost guaranteed to be the best selling Nintendo home console of all time

I would love a partnership between the two.
Will never happen tho. A console with Xbox power, xbox controller (still the best imo) and Nintendo games.

Or a crossover game between metroid/Halo
Donkey Kong and Banjo kazooie
Killer instinct on a Nintendo console etc.

Search on Nintendo Switch is going to be powered by Bing.

Sorry to be chaining rumours to other rumours, but it seems to me like DLSS (if that arrives on a Switch Pro) could massively improve cloud gaming. If it works the way I understand it, then a relatively low resolution image could be sent over your internet connection and then upscaled locally. I would have thought it would make the service far more stable for people with slightly underwhelming internet connections.

So yeah; xCloud feels entirely plausible to me.

I've come to complain vigorously about a news site using click bait and reporting on tenuous rumours hurrdeehum! I don't understand that these guys need to make money or that my clicks and participation in the comments on every piece of clickbait I see drives ad revenue mumpph! Grow up...

Nintendo 64 Classic Mini console with Rare games please 🙂

I don't need GamePass because it's digital and when I hear the word "cloud" I break out in spots. So: No. Microsoft really has nothing to offer for me.

XCloud on Switch with Game pass. It has been rumored for so long now. It's pretty much a given.

@HeadPirate
That's probably 99% accurate.
I think konami and all their IP will be first. Not the whole of konami just the video game side of the business.
Then Sega.
Also this will allow Nintendo to get very very creative with new IP, which they said will be the focus moving forward.

The way Phil Spencer laughs at Xbox Games being exclusive to platforms where Gamepass exists.
I noticed that straight away.

Nintendo Xbox I like it.
I can see the 2 or 3 billion gamers that Phil Spencer talks about being a reality by the end of this decade.

This E3 and the Tokyo Game Show will be interesting.

@FlaviusFire Hung up on privacy? our privacy is a vital part of our freedoms! I'm proud to be hung up on it.

I'm hoping this means that classic Bethesda titles could be ported and sold as physical copies on the Switch. Fallout 3, Oblivion, Morrowind would all make great games on the go.

Honestly its hard to say exactly what may happen. But at one point MS had plans to make a hand held xbox one similar to the switch. But it never got off the ground, maybe we'll see heavy integration or even crossplay.

They've been buddy-buddy for a long time now. Granted, they haven't done much lately... Maybe xCloud? Xbox doesn't really get nintendo stuff, but nintendo is definitely getting a lot of crossplay titles.

They could bring Conker:Live and Reloaded but it's uncensord and the graphics (while still pretty good) should be updated a little.

@Grahamthecracker

"I don’t have HIGH hopes for this because it’s several years old now but Rare Replay would be my biggest hope. Yes xCloud would be great but Rare Replay almost made me buy an Xbox One"

Real talk. I pre-ordered the batman arkham knight ps4 and weeks later Rare Replay was announced for Xbox one and I canceled my pre order and bought an Xbox one.

I truly hope Microsoft and their loathsome business practices will stay far away from Nintendo - who still stand for what I want gaming to be. In that regard I'd much prefer that Nintendo work with Sony. If Microsoft wants to bring some of their games to Switch, sure, but anything else will likely make me very sceptical.

@desireefan36 exactly why I like Xbox and Nintendo over PlayStation

@desireefan36 I am pretty sure that Disney did NOT want Sora in smash at all. And I am also pretty sure that is why Sephiroth was chosen instead.

Nintendo was gonna add Sora but Disney said no and they have to make do with Sephiroth

@Gabaz09

I literally just made a Nintendo Life account to like this post.

Not interested in Xbone junk on my switch but I’ll take a physical release of rare replay!

@desireefan36
Obviously AON productions would have to sign off on it. But, honestly, with the IO Interactive game being at least 2 years away they should throw the fans a bone.

I would just like to see them ditch the crappy online services they have been using with the Wii U and Switch and just have Microsoft run their online services.

If they're gonna make Xbox Game Pass available on switch, they'll probably rename it.

Kind of reminds me of the perpetual war and everchanging alliances between Oceania, Eurasia, and Eastasia in 1984.

@anoyonmus that's wrong, Disney never said no to sora being in smash, that was false info, go watch the youtube video who owns sora by HMK, he talked to a Disney representative and the Disney representative said Disney wants sora in smash

@WhiteTrashGuy no they shouldn't, just because smash ultimate is a celebration of video games doesn't mean all video games or game genre should be represented with a fighter

@Poodlestargenerica sony is also censor happy which is why lots of Japanese game developers have stopped making games for playstation, especially anime styled games

@LouBlu08 highly unlikely that they'll rename Xbox game pass if it's put on the switch, Nintendo & Microsoft have a great relationship now, Nintendo would not make Microsoft rename Xbox game pass just to put it on switch

@Lord rare replay is highly unlikely getting put on switch

@desireefan36 that was last year but with lots of fans asking for doomslayer to be in smash they wont ignore that man.

@Imerion Nintendo will never work with sony ever, sony hates Nintendo and Nintendo hates sony pushing their political ideals onto others and Nintendo hates working with companies that push their political ideals onto other

@HeadPirate

I think they let it open.
Gamepass Ultimate is also usable through streaming on Android Devices.
Since it is only a little Step to port such Thing to the Switch, it stays possible and open.

@jco83 never happening

@desireefan36

"Microsoft is highly unlikely to be getting a 2nd fighter in fighter's pass 2 and i don't think they should be allowed to get any more fighters on the roster,"

oh then Sora shouldn't be in smash then.

Sora is also owned by Square Enix and they had Hero in the 1st fighter's pass and Sephiroth in the 2nd one.

So therefore Sora shouldn't be in smash.

Nintendo themselves have 2 of their OWN characters from their OWN IPs in Fighter's Pass 2

@RiasGremory all dlc for fighter's pass 2 were already chosen and secured way before that info about negotiations for doom content never went anywhere came out and there's no way in hell Nintendo would waste time and money sending a Nintendo representative back to bethesda just to try to get doom content again, doom content doesn't belong in smash ever, just because smash ultimate is a celebration of video games as a whole DOES NOT MEAN that all video game series will, should or can be represented in smash ultimate, especially with a fighter, even if Nintendo did go back to try to get doom content for smash ultimate, they would only add doom spirits through a spirit event or a doomguy mii costume only and not scrap a dlc fighter just to add a stupid 1st person shooter rep

@BizarreJelly28980 that's highly unlikely to ever happen

@electrolite77 Nintendo will never allow any of their IPs to be played on xbox

@desireefan36 yup

Same with Microsoft. No WAY that Halo will come to NS

@desireefan36
I think you are getting your multiple replies mixed up.... I said nothing about SMASH. Maybe you should switch to decaf.

@Imerion why do you say that.

Sony and Nintendo literally hate each other. What Sony is doing now is just questionable and Microsoft seems to be making better judgements and decisions

@MatthewTaranto nah man

I would pay 700 DOLLARS FOR IT

@RiasGremory yeah and also the negotiations that supposedly didn't go anywhere was before Bethesda was bought by Microsoft, and they said that it didn't go anywhere BEFORE Doom Eternal came out.

Now that Microsoft has bought Bethesda, it is possible that Microsoft is trying to convince Nintendo to put the Doom Slayer
(or any Bethesda character in smash would be great heck even the guy from Wolfenstein will be great imo) .

@anoyonmus i never said halo will or could come to switch, and it shouldn't

@anoyonmus there's nothing that Microsoft can say or do to have Nintendo and sakurai to scrap 1 of the last 2 dlc fighters in order to add a bethesda rep as a fighter, sakurai himself said once a character is chosen and agreed on there's nothing that can be done to change that choice

@WhiteTrashGuy i don't drink coffee, just the smell of coffee makes me literally sick to my stomach

@desireefan36 it won't.

Unless if Microsoft is willing to put MCC on switch
(which won't happen), I don't expect Master Chief in smash

@anoyonmus I'm not saying either is a good option, I would of course prefer Nintendo doing their own thing. The reason for Sony would simply be that they have a traditional view of what video games and game consoles should be that I can agree with. There are many things I dislike about that companys policies too, but Microsoft feels far more dangerous as they again and again seem to take decisions that move games more towards services and restricted access. All the debacle around the Xbox One launch, including the draconian rules for borrowing games, is a good example of this. They backed down then due to major backlash, but I don't doubt they would try again if they could get away with it. Same with Game Pass - I simply don't trust MS to not turn it into a "Netflix for games" in the future, complete with crap like monthly subscriptions being the only way to have access to the content, games rotating out after a while, account and sign in-requirements, not being able to lend games to friends, etc, etc. Please note, I'm not saying that is what they are doing at the moment, but I don't trust them to not start doing it in the future.

@Azuris
I considered this a lot. Why, to me, it seems unlikely is that as a company you are always working with your marketing team on "strong position statements", which are like buy words when you are selling a new idea. Think of cell phones. The FIRST cell phone maker had to sell people on the idea they need cell phones, after that everyone just says they are better then that guy. MS is selling the idea of a subscription, so they are going to take every chance they can to make strong, objective statements like "only on the Xbox family" or "part of the new way to buy games, only on Xbox". The reality is that, in American at least, you don't leave things open because you can just lie. It's completely normalized for US marketing to mislead people, so no one will bat an eye when 4 months after saying ONLY ON XBOX it's now on Android as well.

So if he's NOT taking the chance to make strong statements like that, it's because he already has a signed deal. That absolutely could be a way to use cloud delivery to bring Xbox games to smart TVs, phones, anything like that ... but if it is, why is he posting comics of Mario as Master Chief with a switch on his shelf rather then starting to hype that service?

I mean it's Phil we are talking about, so the answer honestly could be "because the dude like Mario". He's posted videos of himself playing Switch and PlayStation exclusives before, and has mad posts about the release of games like Smash and Last Of US 2 telling Xbox fans to check them out, so not a huge stretch. It IS the first time we've seen an competing console in officially produced marketing though, as far as I'm aware.

Sorry I like to rant, so one more thing that supports your idea over mine ... Windows Phone was insanely powerful and had software that would still be ground breaking today. They had emulators that would run Android and iOS software on that platform, and a ton of cloud based stuff that never hit market because it wasn't even worth it to pay the legal fees that would come with "Run Apple aps on Windows Phone!" seeing they never had more then 2% market share. The idea that they are revising some software from that project is very reasonable.

@anoyonmus

Why not exactly?

MS knows the "win the console wars" ship has sailed at this point, and so they have been pushing cross buy, cross play, and universal delivery as their selling points for years now. Having a cloud delivery of Halo on Switch is just free money seeing you don't even have to port it ... it's just the PC version running remotely, and Halo being playing on as many screens as possible fits Microsoft new positioning in the market.

"Ori and the Blind Forest: Definitive Edition" is a re-release, sure ... but the definitive edition is ONLY coming to switch. That's MS studios directly, not even one of the 2nd parts they own, making a switch exclusive.

So really the only answer to "Why can't Halo not be on switch" is "because that's the way it has always been" which is absolutely true ... but MS and Xbox are very aggressively not doing things they way they always have right now.

@electrolite77 last year Nintendo said they won't be making new mobile games anymore

@anoyonmus Microsoft wants master chief in smash but the likelyhood that he'd be a dlc fighter is highly unlikely, I'm sure Microsoft would be fine with a master chief mii costume

@desireefan36 We can hope,we can hope.

Battletoads, or maybe the Rare replay collection or Killer Instinct. But it would be cool to play some Halo on Switch, I just doubt it would happen.

Game Pass doesn't make much sense. All the games would have to be ported to Switch so the selection would be horrible. xCloud would be perfect. No porting, just streaming. And the Switch has some Android bits in there, where xCloud already works well. That's my hope.

@BizarreJelly28980 i don't want to see master chief in smash unless he's a mii costume, I believe the last 2 dlc fighters are shantae and sora

Please for work out a Killer deal with X-box and bring Killer Instinct to the Nintendo switch

or on the NintendoPro/SuperSwitch/Switch2/
Switch Galaxy or what ever the next um... i dont if know 4K,O-LED, 1TB system memory, 1TB game internal memory with expansion slot up to 2TB so 3TB total.

Also So yeah I'll take Killer Instinct on either this or the next nintendo system.

Also get those nintendo Mix/ Augmented reality glasses done soon Please

I don't ask for much, if these things cannot be completed on your own. Please contact me I'll direct the projects.

Thank you.

jco83: "Nintendo 64 Classic Mini console with Rare games please ☺"
desireefan36: "@jco83 never happening"

@desireefan36 How can you be so sure of that? SNES Classic Mini included Rare's Donkey Kong Country

@jco83 i meant that a n64 classic mini is never happening

Can they PLEASE sell Rare back to Nintendo? I really, REALLY want a new Snake Rattle n Roll game. So damn bad.

@desireefan36 I want either Shantae or Travis.

@Dringo No, it isn't.

desireefan36: "@jco83 i meant that a n64 classic mini is never happening"

@desireefan36 How can you know?

@jco83 there's absolutely no reason to make a n64 classic mini, the only reason why the nes mini was made was because they needed something to put out while they were working on making the switch and the snes mini was made because they needed to test the emulation before they added nes and snes to Nintendo Online Services

@BizarreJelly28980 travis touchdown is deconfirmed because he's a mii costume

I'll be happy if minecraft console edition goes back on sale: https://www.change.org/p/microsoft-put-minecraft-console-edition-back-on-digital-purchase also FORZA ON SWITCH and the purchases BETTER SYNC if gamepass comes on switch

@Iggy-Koopa Yes it does. Nintendo Cloud Streaming is operated by Ubitius, which runs on Microsoft Azure

@Dringo Ubitus isn't a part of Nintendo, so it's Ubitus that uses Azure to stream games to Switch as a third party. That ain't the same thing as Nintendo using Azure to provide cloud services to users, like, at all.

@desireefan36 I know he has a Mii costume(I bought it)but I still hope he makes it in.

@BizarreJelly28980 travis touchdown can't be a mii costume and a dlc fighter, he's a 3rd party character, only Nintendo owned 1st party characters are allowed to be fighters and have mii costumes, travis touchdown is deconfirmed from being a dlc fighter, maybe we'll get a no more heroes 3 spirit event later this year but we're not getting any no more heroes music

@Iggy-Koopa That semantics might be true. But my statement, which was 'the service they have already uses Azure' is still accurate and your response to it was not

Regardless, Spencer isn't in charge of Azure. It may be a Game Stack thing, if it's anything at all, but you'd have to hope for an xCloud thing.

My dream (which is a pipe dream, I know) would be to see ports of several popular Microsoft owned IPs be brought over. I want to see Fallout 3/NV, Oblivion, The Evil Within 1 and 2, State Of Decay and more.
Would love to see GamePass come as well in some form.

@desireefan36 Aw that sucks but wait I get him not getting a full character but what do you mean we can't get NMH music in Smash Sans came with Megalovaina and he was a Mii costume so there's a chance that maybe we could get NMH music without Travis getting a full character reveal.

@BizarreJelly28980 if we were going to get a NMH music track then it would have come with the travis touchdown mii costume but it didn't, the only way for additional music to be added is if it's with a mii costume or with a challenger pack they have never added additional music for free or as paid dlc and they never will but not every 3rd party mii costume will come with a music track, also, the sans and cuphead mii costumes were the only mii costumes that came with a music track, and the reason is partly because they are indie characters, partly because that's the only way they'd be allowed to add a music track from the games they come from, partly because they look like a full playable character with the masks and partly because sakurai thought the music track he had come with the sans mii costume and the cuphead mii costume were fitting for smash

@Dringo Your statement wasn't accurate at all, which was that Nintendo's cloud service - something they don't have - uses Azure. A third party that uses Azure to stream a game to Switch categorically is not part of Nintendo, therefore I stand firm 👍🏻

@Iggy-Koopa I said the cloud service they have, which is Ubitus, uses Azure. Just like the chipsets they have is Nvidia. Don’t play semantics with me because I’ll knock you around the park.

Ubitus is the service Nintendo has commissioned to work with them and third parties on Switch streaming. I know this from my recent interview with Hakan Abrak on how Hitman 3 happened. Nintendo even did the approaching.

It’s quite possible that Nintendo might develop their own cloud streaming system and abandon their partner (although if they wanted to have more control, I think it’s more likely they’ll acquire them or invest in them, like they did with DeNA in mobile). And it’s possible they’ll sign Azure to power it, just like PlayStation has.

However, Azure already powers game streaming on Switch. So it’s not much of a story. Which was the motivation behind my initial comment.

@Dringo Hahaha, knock me around the park.

Okay buddy.

Well if you cant trust the rumour of someone named shpeshal ed then who can you trust!?