@liljmoore Nintendo has no authority to dictate. Ironic, considering they publish Pokemon games, which takes on every so called evil you're accusing third parties of.
Broken? Check. Annual? Check. Abused microtransactions? Check. Locking Difficulties behind versions? Check. Quailty decline? Check. Two versions then a third version to follow later? Milked? Check.
Not even third parties are as bad as GameFreak and Co. But if you want to continue in the belief that Nintendo is exempted from this, then go ahead.
@liljmoore
And you think Nintendo is exempted from this? I don't think so. They lead the charge every so often. All that comment from Nintendo reinforces, is that their a prehistoric dinosaur, living in their own bubble, thinking they can dictate third parties. This isn't the old days anymore, that approach does not fly in the console market.
Sounds like the folks in Japan more than contributed to the inevitably sequel, judging by 2.5m sold (in Japan, MC), it seems a very small sum of players in the west dipped in considering DD involved.
@midnafanboy
What do the most continuous successful home consoles have in common? Not just brand specific exclusives, not just third party games, not just a selection of popular/niche Japanese games, not just the big amount of marketing (product placement in games, ad etc, own advertising), not just a modern advancement in the industry, its the established promise of them all.
The quality of ports isn't the problem, the problem is the fanbase won't touch anything without Nintendo's stable of franchises at front and center. Hyrule Warriors & another Warriors game on Wii U proved that nicely. The problem is Nintendo is going to have work with every third party to create a Nintendo cloned version of third party games for any success. That is the problem.
@JosieC84 Games which aren't limited to first party? Marketing? A stable brand? I dunno, the public can't dismiss games just because there available elsewhere.
@rjejr Haha Is that your way of telling me "Greatness awaits" is overplayed at the moment? Ah, well it fits.
As for avatar, well I just realised Xenoverse is launching soon and I remember laughing at this moment. But don't worry MGSV: TPP will receive it's dues.
@rjejr
You and others compared it in response to me, so I played along in my replies, never made mention of its success on mobile platforms/comparisons at 5. I could have added Nintendo audience but the usage of "Nintendo's franchises" coupled with comment on said game on 3DS, in a word, overkill.
@rjejr So, err, what you're saying is i shouldn't be making direct comparisons?
Well, I didn't. I knew the 3DS version wouldn't be huge in comparison, which is why I didn't make that comparison until... The 3DS version is a different beast than its counterpart.
@rjejr
Insert "why so serious" meme here... But funnily enough its a joke based on true events.
But since it wasn't taken as a joke, i shall take it seriously. Puzzle and Dragons Z on 3DS sold 1.5 million, Puzzle and Dragons sold over 40m and Puzzle and Dragons SME has the added luxury of characters from Nintendo franchises which, will no doubt add to sales. So yes game is huge, just not on 3ds.
Interesting, another exclusive relying on Nintendo's franchises to sell to the audience. In an obvious attempt to gain their attention which otherwise wouldn't be there.
@Quorthon While that's a very good point, that just comes back to Nintendo's inability to gain a truckload of games. But the customer is never at fault.
@midnafanboy Even if he's joking, I don't believe for a second the comments made below are joking either. And it nots funny at all.
@Melkac
Megaman is not Smash's asset, it's Capcom's asset licensed to Nintendo for usage in their game. It is Capcom's character, Nintendo doesn't get a say just because it appears in their game first.
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Re: Interview: Nintendo's Damon Baker on the eShop Team, Reaching Out to Indies and Finding Games That Matter
@liljmoore
Nintendo has no authority to dictate. Ironic, considering they publish Pokemon games, which takes on every so called evil you're accusing third parties of.
Broken? Check. Annual? Check. Abused microtransactions? Check. Locking Difficulties behind versions? Check. Quailty decline? Check. Two versions then a third version to follow later? Milked? Check.
Not even third parties are as bad as GameFreak and Co. But if you want to continue in the belief that Nintendo is exempted from this, then go ahead.
Re: Interview: Nintendo's Damon Baker on the eShop Team, Reaching Out to Indies and Finding Games That Matter
@liljmoore
And you think Nintendo is exempted from this? I don't think so. They lead the charge every so often. All that comment from Nintendo reinforces, is that their a prehistoric dinosaur, living in their own bubble, thinking they can dictate third parties. This isn't the old days anymore, that approach does not fly in the console market.
Re: Dragon Ball Z: Extreme Budoten is Fighting Its Way to Japanese 3DS Systems This Summer
This sounds like the spiritual successor to the SuperSonic Warriors series. Also 3DS first to get a DB fighting game.
Re: Dragon Ball Z: Extreme Budoten is Fighting Its Way to Japanese 3DS Systems This Summer
@DatFunkySmell
I dunno, Xenoverse looks to be shaping up well. Dimps is the one behind that. But yeah, +1 for Budokai series.
Re: Nintendo to Introduce Free Software With NES and SNES Experiences Activated Through amiibo
So its US and Canada thats the driving force? How interesting.
Re: Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate has Shipped Over 3 Million Units Worldwide
@Mega719
Businesses don't work that way, besides the contract in place ensured both parties gained mutual gain.
Re: Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate has Shipped Over 3 Million Units Worldwide
Sounds like the folks in Japan more than contributed to the inevitably sequel, judging by 2.5m sold (in Japan, MC), it seems a very small sum of players in the west dipped in considering DD involved.
Re: Weirdness: BAFTA Appears To Have Clean Forgotten That The Nintendo 3DS Even Exists
So much disdain & attention in the comment section for an apparently irrelevant awards show (ha yeah right).
Re: Weirdness: BAFTA Appears To Have Clean Forgotten That The Nintendo 3DS Even Exists
@Damo
Oh that phrase.
Re: Weirdness: BAFTA Appears To Have Clean Forgotten That The Nintendo 3DS Even Exists
The BAFTAs have done to 3DS what Third Parties & Sony have done to Vita...
Shunned it from public eyes, well this is the UK, Nintendo's weakest market so thats why.
"BAFTA Appears To Have Clean Forgotten That The Nintendo 3DS Even Exists" Clean or clearly?
Re: Nintendo Picks Up Three Gongs at the D.I.C.E. Awards
It's almost as if the panel of people who made these nominations have completely different opinions than those of you lot here.
Re: Nintendo Looking To Offer Affordable Smartphone-Style Games And Remakes Of Past Classics On 3DS
Pathetic right before the mention of trials came about.
Re: Nintendo YouTube Creators Program Update Clarifies Rules and Delayed Approvals Due to Volume of Applications
Nintendo just doesn't get it, like at all.
And if they don't reverse course, not only have they got alienated third parties but an alienated and fragmented YT community too.
Re: Talking Point: Star Fox for Wii U is an Ongoing and Surprising Mystery
Its coming out before Zelda but (is not only less prominent) as the title says "is an ongoing mystery"
Re: Junichi Masuda Discusses Where Hoenn Got its Name and What the Region Means to Him
There's not enough water Pokemon, so too much water.
7.8
I wonder when that will get old?
Re: Tesco Direct Starts Flogging Wii U 8GB Systems for £99 in the UK
@Nicolai
Lolz!
Re: New Fire Emblem 3DS Title Set For Battle in Japan This Summer, Mario Maker Pushed Back to '2015' Worldwide
@rjejr
Something something Greatness, something something Awaits
Re: New Fire Emblem 3DS Title Set For Battle in Japan This Summer, Mario Maker Pushed Back to '2015' Worldwide
It wouldn't be Nintendo if they didn't delay something, it wouldn't be a new year, old habits without it.
Re: Nintendo Stays in Profit With Wii U on Target, Though 3DS Sales Fall
@Vineleaf
It could lead to there (never thought of it like that before).
Re: Nintendo Stays in Profit With Wii U on Target, Though 3DS Sales Fall
@midnafanboy
What do the most continuous successful home consoles have in common? Not just brand specific exclusives, not just third party games, not just a selection of popular/niche Japanese games, not just the big amount of marketing (product placement in games, ad etc, own advertising), not just a modern advancement in the industry, its the established promise of them all.
The quality of ports isn't the problem, the problem is the fanbase won't touch anything without Nintendo's stable of franchises at front and center. Hyrule Warriors & another Warriors game on Wii U proved that nicely. The problem is Nintendo is going to have work with every third party to create a Nintendo cloned version of third party games for any success. That is the problem.
Re: Nintendo Stays in Profit With Wii U on Target, Though 3DS Sales Fall
So 3DS is falling and Wii U is slightly on the up (but still behind Gamecube)?
Let that be a lesson to not underestimate the selling power of third parties, well that and not enough games.
Re: Koei Tecmo Releases Awesome Hyrule Warriors Wallpapers to Celebrate One Million Units Shipped
@Quorthon
I know, the previous Warriors game on Wii U, Warriors Orochi 3 Hyper couldn't even get to 100k.
Re: Retailer The Hut Believes The Wii U Now Has A "Respectable" Install Base In The UK
@Ootfan98
Their loss is Nintendo's loss.
Re: Koei Tecmo Releases Awesome Hyrule Warriors Wallpapers to Celebrate One Million Units Shipped
Interesting figures. I wonder what lead to this milestone.
Re: New 3DS and Nintendo-Exclusive Games Stay On Top in Japanese Charts
@JosieC84
Games which aren't limited to first party? Marketing? A stable brand? I dunno, the public can't dismiss games just because there available elsewhere.
Re: New 3DS and Nintendo-Exclusive Games Stay On Top in Japanese Charts
@TingLz
You should be ashamed.
Re: Cube Life: Island Survival is Another Minecraft-Inspired Title Heading to the Wii U eShop
Minecraft clones awaits..
Re: Wii U Enjoyed Its Best Ever Month of US Sales in December, With Yearly Results Beating 2013
@IceClimbers
Come on! Things aren't that bad.
Re: Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate Demo Codes Now Being Distributed in North America
Oh my!
Re: First Impressions: We're Really Feeling It With Xenoblade Chronicles 3D
The feels.

Re: Etrian Mystery Dungeon Finds Its Way to North American Stores on April 7th
@IceClimbers
All pretty shocking for a platform that had nothing in those months over 24 hours ago...
Re: New Nintendo 3DS Release Date Confirmed for 13th February
@rjejr

Never knew I was a DBZ fan?
I guess you don't know I'm a James Bond fan as well?
Re: New Nintendo 3DS Release Date Confirmed for 13th February
@rjejr
Haha Is that your way of telling me "Greatness awaits" is overplayed at the moment? Ah, well it fits.
As for avatar, well I just realised Xenoverse is launching soon and I remember laughing at this moment. But don't worry MGSV: TPP will receive it's dues.
Re: New Nintendo 3DS Release Date Confirmed for 13th February
@LUIGITORNADO
Thats the first time I've heard 3DS = Children, Wii U = Big boy machine.
Re: New Nintendo 3DS Release Date Confirmed for 13th February
https://twitter.com/KazHiraiCEO/status/555384530178441216
Yeah thats still inexcusable, but roll on February.
Re: Puzzle & Dragons: Super Mario Edition Was The Result Of A Speculative Pitch From GungHo Online
@rjejr
You and others compared it in response to me, so I played along in my replies, never made mention of its success on mobile platforms/comparisons at 5. I could have added Nintendo audience but the usage of "Nintendo's franchises" coupled with comment on said game on 3DS, in a word, overkill.
Re: Puzzle & Dragons: Super Mario Edition Was The Result Of A Speculative Pitch From GungHo Online
@megamanlink
Then you can replace "sold" with "downloaded", but should add I never said either effort wasn't lucrative.
Re: Puzzle & Dragons: Super Mario Edition Was The Result Of A Speculative Pitch From GungHo Online
@rjejr
So, err, what you're saying is i shouldn't be making direct comparisons?
Well, I didn't. I knew the 3DS version wouldn't be huge in comparison, which is why I didn't make that comparison until... The 3DS version is a different beast than its counterpart.
Re: Puzzle & Dragons: Super Mario Edition Was The Result Of A Speculative Pitch From GungHo Online
@Tsurii897 Huge on mobile platforms? Yes. Huge on 3DS? No, by comparison. Thats the distinction you fail to see i was making.
Re: Puzzle & Dragons: Super Mario Edition Was The Result Of A Speculative Pitch From GungHo Online
@rjejr
Insert "why so serious" meme here... But funnily enough its a joke based on true events.
But since it wasn't taken as a joke, i shall take it seriously. Puzzle and Dragons Z on 3DS sold 1.5 million, Puzzle and Dragons sold over 40m and Puzzle and Dragons SME has the added luxury of characters from Nintendo franchises which, will no doubt add to sales. So yes game is huge, just not on 3ds.
Re: Puzzle & Dragons: Super Mario Edition Was The Result Of A Speculative Pitch From GungHo Online
Interesting, another exclusive relying on Nintendo's franchises to sell to the audience. In an obvious attempt to gain their attention which otherwise wouldn't be there.
Re: Super Smash Bros. for Wii U Holds Top 20 Position in UK Charts as Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker Slides
Yeah, mentioning e-shop sales is a hypothetical copout. That situation will be forever unknown, unlike the UK retail market.
Re: SpongeBob HeroPants is Headed to 3DS Soon
@PolarKoalaBear
Replace interesting with bizzare and you're spot on.
Re: Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker Makes Top 20 Chart Début in UK
@Grumblevolcano

Never gets old.
Re: UK Retail Survey Highlights the Challenges Facing Nintendo
@Quorthon
While that's a very good point, that just comes back to Nintendo's inability to gain a truckload of games. But the customer is never at fault.
@midnafanboy
Even if he's joking, I don't believe for a second the comments made below are joking either. And it nots funny at all.
Re: UK Retail Survey Highlights the Challenges Facing Nintendo
@jord91 @CasuallyDressed
That's the spirit! Blame the customers, not the company.
Re: UK Retailer GAME Is Selling Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker This Side Of Christmas
Dat tagline tho.
Re: Yo-Kai Watch: Shin'uchi Storms to Japanese Chart Summit as 3DS and Wii U Sales Increase
@midnafanboy @Sir_JBizzle @Lloyd_Wolven
It is being released in the west, its kinda like Pokemon but it perfects those elements with a new additions.
Re: Yo-Kai Watch: Shin'uchi Storms to Japanese Chart Summit as 3DS and Wii U Sales Increase
@Jazzer94
PS4 Slime Edition launched and GTA V too, all without heavy Japanese hitters.
Re: Weirdness: Sony Uses Art From Super Smash Bros. To Celebrate 20 Years Of PlayStation
@Melkac
Megaman is not Smash's asset, it's Capcom's asset licensed to Nintendo for usage in their game. It is Capcom's character, Nintendo doesn't get a say just because it appears in their game first.