@larryisaman I was gonna say Gamefreak wouldn't bother even making a game if it was only gonna sell 2 million copies but then I remembered that bucket of dren they released a few years ago... Little Town Hero was it? Well anyway that sold nothing and they still poached their top developers from Sword & Shield in order to get that crud out of the gate 🤷🏼♂️
@BloodyMurder Sword & Shield sold well over 20 million copies compared to Xenoblade 2's ~2 million, I'm sure I don't need to run the calculations for you to prove it's approximately a buttload more 😅
Edit: over 24 million, actually. Enough that the games ought not to release in an alpha state 🤦🏼♂️
@Jeronan I saw someone comment on YouTube about how the engine is full of useless junk code, loads of repeating sections and stuff they obviously didn't have time to remove. It wouldn't surprise me if all the problems/glitches are a result of trying to use the same engine as before to save time but with the increased overworld size it brought all these additional issues, kinda like how the game tries to render everything all at once rather than having optimisation to make far off objects low Res to ease the load...
Gamefreak have never been any good at optimization but on a console like the Switch (and with their obvious ambitions to enter the open-world space) they really need to give their games more time in development, because I doubt Nintendo will continue to let them stink up the building with their half baked efforts for much longer.
@EaglyTheKawaiiShika the amount of people who will care about this is vanishingly small compared to the total userbase, so I bet it was an oversight rather than a deliberate removal.
@nocdaes there was news recently about how Switch has only just overtaken the Xbox One in the UK, dunno if that helps figure out a total install base?
Edit: yep the article was from the 4th, also it confirmed the Switch hasn't even overtaken the PS3 here yet! If ever proof were needed that the UK is PlayStation territory here be it.
@Nicolai I've done it twice! 😅 1st time back at release on Wii U, then I managed to find a Switch exclusive limited edition randomly out in the wild so I played that version on master mode. 100% completing everything is only possible with guides because trying to find 900 korok seeds without help... well, therein lies insanity haha but all the side quests and locations etc I found by myself.
ONI is tickling my weeb bone for sure, gonna have to keep an eye on that one. Aka looks super cute and cozy too, all in all a fairly enjoyable presentation.
@iLikeUrAttitude I'm going to stop explaining myself as it's clear you're only interested in understanding your own viewpoint, the first link you posted literally included the words "despite production increasing" and if you're unwilling to understand that I don't know what else to say. You can be as dismissive as you like to everyone else but I won't be reading it in future.
@roy130390 it's still not good enough, imo. I've long since gone past the notion that Gamefreak will ever put enough effort into their games to make them worth the price, I've been playing Pokémon for far too long to keep seeing the barest incremental change of such a hugely successful series. It's stagnant and I loathe so much of what they do now, but I realise it will always be a minority opinion amongst the fanbase at large who are mostly happy to just play another slightly different Pokémon game 🤷🏼♂️
@IronMan30 oh I thought your comment was making fun of the controversy around the trees in Sword & Shield, so I made a joke about the terrible clockwork windmill animation they showed in the trailers a while ago.
And this is why Gamefreak will never make better games, why bother when people buy them in these numbers. I'm glad the scales fell from my eyes years ago, no more expensive crushing disappointments for me!
@iLikeUrAttitude yeah I still don't think you're reading my comments how I intended but I'm not quite sure how much plainer I can be, I definitely didn't mean the part you said was about 'Nintendo holding stock back' to be read in that way... This: "Nintendo have been known to lie about their hardware plans, they're secretive to a fault and I guarantee they will drop the Switch like a stone once they decide sales aren't up to snuff." Doesn't mean that Nintendo are holding anything back, it means they keep their future hardware plans extremely secret to the point where on one occasion they claimed they had no plans to release a new console only to release one a week later. We even know they deliberately hold games back from release when they want to bulk up their schedule. Also if changing your chip from one size to another isn't a redesign I don't know any other way to describe it!
Those links you sent confirmed what I said about production capacity increasing in the sector so I think we've got a case of miscommunication here mostly, we broadly agree on the majority of the moving parts but where we disagree is on how it'll all shake out. Probably have to agree to disagree on that one and come back in a few weeks when we see what happens haha
What do you say, shall we wait and see and continue the debate once the next big news drops?
@iLikeUrAttitude sorry I didn't reply yesterday, I had a busy day and didn't have the time to look everything up.
I'm not misinformed and your assumption that I've just pulled all this out of my rear end is totally unfair, I have read plenty of articles on the subject and though I'm no expert I certainly do not appreciate you insinuating that I'm completely inept and incapable of research. I think I'm just not articulating myself in a way that you understand which is easily done in a form bereft of tone and nuance like text, but I'll try to explain myself a bit better...
When I said the PS5 had a redesign it was perhaps a poor choice of words, Sony were reported to have moved to new 6nm AMD chipset in an effort to avoid the backlogs with the previous chip: https://hothardware.com/news/sonys-playstation-5-gets-lighter-to-streamline-production This is what I meant by "basically over", the nuance of which you have missed entirely. We are not in the same environment now as we were when the chip shortage started, COVID-19 is less of an issue and the production capacity of chip manufacturers has increased but what is still causing issue is backlogs and lead times. Prices are increasing because businesses are paying more to get their chips before everyone else and Nintendo are unwilling to do this, I have also read that Nvidia have phased out (or are about to phase out) the older chips the Switch uses and so Nintendo can't get hold of them in bulk like they need to without spending significant sums on chips that they may well be planning on moving away from in the next 12 months: https://uk.pcmag.com/migrated-84555-gaming/132197/report-nvidia-to-end-production-of-nintendo-switch-tegra-chip I can't find anything more recent on that subject from my very brief Google search but I can't remember where I read about it as I get gaming news from so many sources.
I'm not sure where you got the part about assuming they're holding back stock because I didn't think I said anything about that, but on the subject Nintendo categorically do hold back stock shipments in order to build supply for big releases. It's a common retail tactic, they want as many consoles available for the release of Pokémon as possible so holding back shipments to retailers is totally logical.
I genuinely think you've misinterpreted a lot of what I said in my comments, but ultimately I guess my point is that you shouldn't just assume everyone else is speaking from a place of ignorance when almost no-one bar Nintendo's executives know the whole story here. We all read headlines and articles that get shown to us by algorithms so everyone's view of the situation will be slightly different, this is why I try to keep the language in my comments explicitly differentiated between facts and opinions and I try not to blatantly dismiss others' when I know I don't have the full picture.
@Axecon this is my point, as we approach 120 million(!) units sold we have to anticipate market saturation is almost here. Which isn't to say the Switch isn't wildly successful, only that Nintendo will be watching sales numbers extremely closely to figure out when exactly to pull the trigger on whatever's next.
@iLikeUrAttitude thank you for the apology, I appreciate it. Quite why you're so aggrieved by someone postulating the reveal of Nintendo's next console, I'll never know. I'm not making bad faith arguments I'm simply discussing what I know and what I believe will happen in the future, something no-one knows for certain no matter how convinced they are of their arguments. Sorry if this sounds patronising, it's not intended to be.
The chip shortage is basically over now, what we have now are companies unwilling to pay to bypass their own stock shortages. Nintendo has basically ceased Switch lite production because they either cannot or will not purchase the necessary components, I presume they don't want to buy the large bulk of components they would need because they know they wouldn't be able to sell them and buying smaller numbers would make production costs too high... Nintendo never sells a console at a loss after all. I strongly believe this is why the lite is supply constrained and why we've seen lower sales numbers in Japan, Sony got past their chip issues with a redesign (I think, can't quite remember the exact details of the article I read) so I don't think it's beyond the realm of possibility that Nintendo will do similarly and move onto a new chipset via new hardware. I can't give you any concrete evidence but the articles I've read lately (and various stats from the industry) lead me to this conclusion.
Nintendo have been known to lie about their hardware plans, they're secretive to a fault and I guarantee they will drop the Switch like a stone once they decide sales aren't up to snuff. Even the hugely successful Wii didn't make it past its 6th birthday, the GameCube and Wii U lasted even less time than that so I really don't think these questions are unfounded. I have no skin in this game either, I'm happy with the games coming out at the moment on Switch and I couldn't afford a new console even if there was one; I'm just a video game nerd (well, Nintendo nerd) and I think it's fun to debate the future of my favourite gaming company.
@iLikeUrAttitude bit harsh! It's not delusion, I've noticed frequent sales dips over the past month or so and I'm just trying to figure out when Nintendo will act. Despite what they say Nintendo rarely supports a console that doesn't make decent sales numbers, though with the fact the Switch is their only console they may act differently this time... I'm just thinking out loud, no need for the rudeness.
@iLikeUrAttitude I do think it's time to ask some questions about how much longer the Switch will last, it is nearly 6 years old after all and we still have no idea when a successor might emerge. I think as Sony makes further progress getting PS5 units actually out there in Japan we'll see Switch sales impress less and less, and if the Pokémon edition fails to significantly boost numbers Nintendo will likely take that as a signal that next year is the year to announce the next console... or at least start hyping it up. Personally I think it's too late for a "pro" revision and I believe Nintendo has likely shifted any tech developed for it onto the successor.
@darkswabber probably because he's always described as being the first westerner to design an official Pokémon, people just assume that means American 🤷🏼♂️
@Brett I'm not a "rube" or a fool for believing someone who presented themselves as a victim and who was clearly posting in distress, that makes me a human being with empathy and I'll do it again because I'm not a sociopath.
It's not childish to believe workers deserve to be paid more, when the world's billionaires have increased their wealth by an obscene 70% that's a fair and natural reaction to the way we've allowed grotesque inequality to get so out of control. As I told you before the earth has enough resources for literally everyone to live a comfortable life but unfortunately the selfish nature of some has led to extreme resource hoarding by wealthy nations and well, here we are.
I'm not ashamed to have stood by Hellena in the beginning, VAs do indeed deserve better pay and conditions. I hope Hellena moved past this now as we all must, and I hope her manipulation of the facts doesn't harm the cause of other VAs in their quest for better treatment.
I'm putting you on the ignore list now because I simply don't want to hear any more in the subject.
@Brett I stand by what I said, I stopped looking at that comment section because I couldn't stand seeing the bile people had for someone trying to stand up for themselves and regardless of the truth of the matter now that still makes me baulk.
Calling other opinions dumb or childish because you don't agree with them is no way to win an argument. Have you looked out at the world lately? It's hardly dystopian to view corporations with disdain considering all they do to make life worse for us all, all in the pursuit of power, money, and influence. Have a look at how life is for those at the bottom and tell me that's fair, it's not and you can't deny it.
I chose to view Hellena's initial claims with empathy, something sadly amiss for most people commenting on this subject and I won't apologise for believing someone who presented themselves as a victim.
@VinylCreep also: "Honestly, as much as I think Hellena isn’t telling the full truth, I really hope she doesn’t get the full force of Twitter coming down on her."
This has been my problem from the start, so many people were so quick to judge her with hardly any information. Saying $4k was plenty for a job of which they had zero knowledge and which could have been a gruelling 6 month's worth of work for all they knew. I have to wonder if the story had gone the other way whether those people would be backing down had she been proven right, obviously she framed her initial arguments to put her in the best possible light and that has totally backfired...
I still maintain there's a nugget of truth in her story, I think she tried to hardball Kamiya and it went how it usually goes when a man-child doesn't like something and that's why she refused. I reckon she was fuming when they asked her to do the cameo and then blindsided by the official statement claiming they couldn't get the schedules to align, which is why she's gone on this tirade of half truths and lies of omission to kick up a stink in advance of the game's release.
What she hoped to actually achieve with all this I don't know, but I do know that it has exposed some pretty gross opinions in these comment sections. People all too quick to side with a corporation desperate to play their game regardless of the casualties, which at the beginning could have been entirely true; people happy to see creatives paid a pittance because all it is is "speaking into a mic for 4 hours" like they know a single thing about how hard it is to get into that industry and make a success of it, and the admonishments coming thick and fast when people think her IMDb listing functions as her CV when she's predominantly a theatre actress and those credits aren't listed. It all just confirms my belief that no-one ever checks their biases before wading into an internet argument, including myself.
@VinylCreep it was screenshots of some of her tweets, and apologies I thought it was anti-vax but it was some guff about autism being a man made/made up disease. I found the actual tweet thread on Twitter and it appears that she "apologised" for it and deleted the offending tweet, though it was a bit half arsed. Sorry for the confusion though, autism denial usually goes hand in hand with anti-vax sentiment but my brain put 2 + 2 together there.
@DashKappei Hale is a proud anti-vaxxer btw, anyone can have sh*tty opinions.
Edit: autism denier not anti-vax, usually go hand in hand but I'd misread the tweet I saw where she claimed it was a man made/made up disease.
@VinylCreep that's if you believe Bloomberg's reporting of two "anonymous sources" close to production. Remind me how accurate their Switch Pro reports were again
I still don't believe we've heard the truth in this story yet, and I don't think we ever will. I'm not sorry I believed Hellena Taylor and to be perfectly honest I still think what she said was the truth as she saw it, I'm just not convinced it was the whole story but I can tell she was posting those videos coming from a place of hurt and was genuinely upset so there's no shame in believing someone on those grounds.
All the people arguing the toss over whether VAs deserve to be paid $4k for their work are the ones who should be shamed, every worker across the world deserves to be paid more than they get get now. Everyone. It's the people at the top who need less, not the people actually doing the work.
@YoshiF2 look, I know you Americans are indoctrinated against the big bad socialism, but socialism has nothing to do with any of this. This is capitalism at work, people are taught it's rude or taboo to discuss wages so the bosses can get away with paying people (usually women and poc) less than others, and when that doesn't work they're told to begrudge fast food workers unionizing because how very dare they think they deserve more for their dead end job... Socialism is at the very core of the Union movement where workers deserve to be paid significantly more for their work because they generate all the profit with their labour, it sounds from your comments like you agree with all this so I really don't get why socialism is the boogyman for you?
@Acein210 you cannot take information pertaining to previous titles and assume it was the same for this game, I've read that Hellena was expected to voice more characters in the 3rd game meaning the workload would have increased. Also she was the voice of the main character, does she not deserve to be paid well for that work? To me it seems like nothing more than a tantrum from Kamiya and knowing the calibre of Jennifer Hale I doubt she took a lower offer than Hellena rejected.
@GameOtaku oh you're one of those kinds of people. The HOW DARE THAT PERSON EAT DECENT FOOD WHEN THEY HAVEN'T WORKED FOR IT kind of person 🙄 You made an assumption about that couple and their ability to work, you have no idea who they are or why they get government help yet you've made a value judgement on them and decided they're undeserving. Let me tell you, this kind of rhetoric is only ever used by corporations and politicians to turn you against your class and instead of moaning about the literal crumbs people get from governments to survive situations you know nothing about, how about looking up at the billionaires avoiding billions in tax or the politicians taking "donations" from oil companies to deny climate change and prevent renewable energy... Look up, not down. 🤦🏼♂️
@steely_pete did she not say Platinum as a company made that much? That's what I heard her say in the video anyway, might have been the way she worded it but I thought she said the company not the game series itself. Other VAs have had a multitude of opinions on the matter, but neither you, they, or I know exactly how much work was expected of Hellena Taylor in the production of this game; in my opinion voicing an entire game with multiple characters sounds like it would require more than the 4 hours or whatever everyone keeps quoting here as a matter of fact even though it's an assumption based on how long previous games took to record, that plus the way she spoke in her video sounded like it's come from a place of hurt which -actress or no- I believe.
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Re: UK Charts: Pokémon Scarlet And Violet Enjoy The Second Biggest Franchise Launch Of All Time
@Dr_Lugae no thanks, I prefer my full price games to be finished and fully bug tested 🤷🏼♂️
Re: UK Charts: Pokémon Scarlet And Violet Enjoy The Second Biggest Franchise Launch Of All Time
Pokémon fans to Gamefreak: YAAAASS QUEEN, give us nothing!
Re: Pokémon Fans Vent Frustrations Online About Scarlet & Violet's Technical Issues
@larryisaman I was gonna say Gamefreak wouldn't bother even making a game if it was only gonna sell 2 million copies but then I remembered that bucket of dren they released a few years ago... Little Town Hero was it? Well anyway that sold nothing and they still poached their top developers from Sword & Shield in order to get that crud out of the gate 🤷🏼♂️
Re: Pokémon Fans Vent Frustrations Online About Scarlet & Violet's Technical Issues
@BloodyMurder Sword & Shield sold well over 20 million copies compared to Xenoblade 2's ~2 million, I'm sure I don't need to run the calculations for you to prove it's approximately a buttload more 😅
Edit: over 24 million, actually. Enough that the games ought not to release in an alpha state 🤦🏼♂️
Re: Pokémon Fans Vent Frustrations Online About Scarlet & Violet's Technical Issues
@Jeronan I saw someone comment on YouTube about how the engine is full of useless junk code, loads of repeating sections and stuff they obviously didn't have time to remove. It wouldn't surprise me if all the problems/glitches are a result of trying to use the same engine as before to save time but with the increased overworld size it brought all these additional issues, kinda like how the game tries to render everything all at once rather than having optimisation to make far off objects low Res to ease the load...
Gamefreak have never been any good at optimization but on a console like the Switch (and with their obvious ambitions to enter the open-world space) they really need to give their games more time in development, because I doubt Nintendo will continue to let them stink up the building with their half baked efforts for much longer.
Re: Soapbox: After 10 Years I Finally Got A Wii U, Here’s What I Thought
@Zequio omg same 😆
Re: Pokémon Scarlet And Violet Removes All Cases Of Pokérus From The Game
@maxisingh05 pokerus didn't exist until gold/silver
Re: Pokémon Scarlet And Violet Removes All Cases Of Pokérus From The Game
@EaglyTheKawaiiShika the amount of people who will care about this is vanishingly small compared to the total userbase, so I bet it was an oversight rather than a deliberate removal.
Re: Round Up: The Reviews Are In For Pokémon Scarlet And Violet
I warn everyone to watch some videos of this game before purchasing, the jank is STRONG in this one.
Re: UK Charts: Sonic Frontiers Starts Strong On Switch While God Of War Cleans Up
@nocdaes there was news recently about how Switch has only just overtaken the Xbox One in the UK, dunno if that helps figure out a total install base?
Edit: yep the article was from the 4th, also it confirmed the Switch hasn't even overtaken the PS3 here yet! If ever proof were needed that the UK is PlayStation territory here be it.
Re: Review: Lonesome Village – Spot The Zelda References In This Cute Life Sim X Puzzle Adventure
@RupeeClock could you not do that trick where you create a user based in the US so you can access their eshop and download the code?
Re: Poll: Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom Is Almost Here, So Have You Completed BOTW Yet?
@Ralizah I don't need your pity, I have my beloved gift of friendship as reward!
Re: Poll: Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom Is Almost Here, So Have You Completed BOTW Yet?
@Nicolai I've done it twice! 😅
1st time back at release on Wii U, then I managed to find a Switch exclusive limited edition randomly out in the wild so I played that version on master mode. 100% completing everything is only possible with guides because trying to find 900 korok seeds without help... well, therein lies insanity haha but all the side quests and locations etc I found by myself.
Re: Round Up: All The Games From Nintendo's Indie World Showcase - November 2022
ONI is tickling my weeb bone for sure, gonna have to keep an eye on that one. Aka looks super cute and cozy too, all in all a fairly enjoyable presentation.
Re: Round Up: All The Games From Nintendo's Indie World Showcase - November 2022
@gcunit why did it annoy you so much? Genuinely curious, nothing about it seemed offensive to me?
Re: Japanese Charts: Bayonetta 3 Debuts In Second As PlayStation 5 Outsells Switch
@iLikeUrAttitude I'm going to stop explaining myself as it's clear you're only interested in understanding your own viewpoint, the first link you posted literally included the words "despite production increasing" and if you're unwilling to understand that I don't know what else to say.
You can be as dismissive as you like to everyone else but I won't be reading it in future.
Re: Nintendo To Broadcast Indie World Showcase Later This Week
Wonder if that's why the eshop is down today?
Re: Pokémon Scarlet And Violet Pre-Orders Are Already Breaking Records In Japan
@roy130390 it's still not good enough, imo. I've long since gone past the notion that Gamefreak will ever put enough effort into their games to make them worth the price, I've been playing Pokémon for far too long to keep seeing the barest incremental change of such a hugely successful series. It's stagnant and I loathe so much of what they do now, but I realise it will always be a minority opinion amongst the fanbase at large who are mostly happy to just play another slightly different Pokémon game 🤷🏼♂️
Re: Pokémon Scarlet And Violet Pre-Orders Are Already Breaking Records In Japan
@IronMan30 oh I thought your comment was making fun of the controversy around the trees in Sword & Shield, so I made a joke about the terrible clockwork windmill animation they showed in the trailers a while ago.
Re: Pokémon Scarlet And Violet Pre-Orders Are Already Breaking Records In Japan
@IronMan30 it's the windmill this time, do try to keep up.
Re: Pokémon Scarlet And Violet Pre-Orders Are Already Breaking Records In Japan
And this is why Gamefreak will never make better games, why bother when people buy them in these numbers. I'm glad the scales fell from my eyes years ago, no more expensive crushing disappointments for me!
Re: Japanese Charts: Bayonetta 3 Debuts In Second As PlayStation 5 Outsells Switch
@iLikeUrAttitude yeah I still don't think you're reading my comments how I intended but I'm not quite sure how much plainer I can be, I definitely didn't mean the part you said was about 'Nintendo holding stock back' to be read in that way...
This:
"Nintendo have been known to lie about their hardware plans, they're secretive to a fault and I guarantee they will drop the Switch like a stone once they decide sales aren't up to snuff."
Doesn't mean that Nintendo are holding anything back, it means they keep their future hardware plans extremely secret to the point where on one occasion they claimed they had no plans to release a new console only to release one a week later. We even know they deliberately hold games back from release when they want to bulk up their schedule.
Also if changing your chip from one size to another isn't a redesign I don't know any other way to describe it!
Those links you sent confirmed what I said about production capacity increasing in the sector so I think we've got a case of miscommunication here mostly, we broadly agree on the majority of the moving parts but where we disagree is on how it'll all shake out. Probably have to agree to disagree on that one and come back in a few weeks when we see what happens haha
What do you say, shall we wait and see and continue the debate once the next big news drops?
Re: Japanese Charts: Bayonetta 3 Debuts In Second As PlayStation 5 Outsells Switch
@iLikeUrAttitude sorry I didn't reply yesterday, I had a busy day and didn't have the time to look everything up.
I'm not misinformed and your assumption that I've just pulled all this out of my rear end is totally unfair, I have read plenty of articles on the subject and though I'm no expert I certainly do not appreciate you insinuating that I'm completely inept and incapable of research. I think I'm just not articulating myself in a way that you understand which is easily done in a form bereft of tone and nuance like text, but I'll try to explain myself a bit better...
When I said the PS5 had a redesign it was perhaps a poor choice of words, Sony were reported to have moved to new 6nm AMD chipset in an effort to avoid the backlogs with the previous chip:
https://hothardware.com/news/sonys-playstation-5-gets-lighter-to-streamline-production
This is what I meant by "basically over", the nuance of which you have missed entirely. We are not in the same environment now as we were when the chip shortage started, COVID-19 is less of an issue and the production capacity of chip manufacturers has increased but what is still causing issue is backlogs and lead times. Prices are increasing because businesses are paying more to get their chips before everyone else and Nintendo are unwilling to do this, I have also read that Nvidia have phased out (or are about to phase out) the older chips the Switch uses and so Nintendo can't get hold of them in bulk like they need to without spending significant sums on chips that they may well be planning on moving away from in the next 12 months:
https://uk.pcmag.com/migrated-84555-gaming/132197/report-nvidia-to-end-production-of-nintendo-switch-tegra-chip
I can't find anything more recent on that subject from my very brief Google search but I can't remember where I read about it as I get gaming news from so many sources.
I'm not sure where you got the part about assuming they're holding back stock because I didn't think I said anything about that, but on the subject Nintendo categorically do hold back stock shipments in order to build supply for big releases. It's a common retail tactic, they want as many consoles available for the release of Pokémon as possible so holding back shipments to retailers is totally logical.
I genuinely think you've misinterpreted a lot of what I said in my comments, but ultimately I guess my point is that you shouldn't just assume everyone else is speaking from a place of ignorance when almost no-one bar Nintendo's executives know the whole story here. We all read headlines and articles that get shown to us by algorithms so everyone's view of the situation will be slightly different, this is why I try to keep the language in my comments explicitly differentiated between facts and opinions and I try not to blatantly dismiss others' when I know I don't have the full picture.
Re: Japanese Charts: Bayonetta 3 Debuts In Second As PlayStation 5 Outsells Switch
@iLikeUrAttitude you've misinterpreted a lot of what I said but I'm too tired to explain right now, tbc tomorrow haha
Re: Japanese Charts: Bayonetta 3 Debuts In Second As PlayStation 5 Outsells Switch
@Axecon this is my point, as we approach 120 million(!) units sold we have to anticipate market saturation is almost here. Which isn't to say the Switch isn't wildly successful, only that Nintendo will be watching sales numbers extremely closely to figure out when exactly to pull the trigger on whatever's next.
Re: Japanese Charts: Bayonetta 3 Debuts In Second As PlayStation 5 Outsells Switch
@iLikeUrAttitude thank you for the apology, I appreciate it. Quite why you're so aggrieved by someone postulating the reveal of Nintendo's next console, I'll never know. I'm not making bad faith arguments I'm simply discussing what I know and what I believe will happen in the future, something no-one knows for certain no matter how convinced they are of their arguments. Sorry if this sounds patronising, it's not intended to be.
The chip shortage is basically over now, what we have now are companies unwilling to pay to bypass their own stock shortages. Nintendo has basically ceased Switch lite production because they either cannot or will not purchase the necessary components, I presume they don't want to buy the large bulk of components they would need because they know they wouldn't be able to sell them and buying smaller numbers would make production costs too high... Nintendo never sells a console at a loss after all. I strongly believe this is why the lite is supply constrained and why we've seen lower sales numbers in Japan, Sony got past their chip issues with a redesign (I think, can't quite remember the exact details of the article I read) so I don't think it's beyond the realm of possibility that Nintendo will do similarly and move onto a new chipset via new hardware. I can't give you any concrete evidence but the articles I've read lately (and various stats from the industry) lead me to this conclusion.
Nintendo have been known to lie about their hardware plans, they're secretive to a fault and I guarantee they will drop the Switch like a stone once they decide sales aren't up to snuff. Even the hugely successful Wii didn't make it past its 6th birthday, the GameCube and Wii U lasted even less time than that so I really don't think these questions are unfounded. I have no skin in this game either, I'm happy with the games coming out at the moment on Switch and I couldn't afford a new console even if there was one; I'm just a video game nerd (well, Nintendo nerd) and I think it's fun to debate the future of my favourite gaming company.
Re: Japanese Charts: Bayonetta 3 Debuts In Second As PlayStation 5 Outsells Switch
@iLikeUrAttitude bit harsh! It's not delusion, I've noticed frequent sales dips over the past month or so and I'm just trying to figure out when Nintendo will act. Despite what they say Nintendo rarely supports a console that doesn't make decent sales numbers, though with the fact the Switch is their only console they may act differently this time... I'm just thinking out loud, no need for the rudeness.
Re: Japanese Charts: Bayonetta 3 Debuts In Second As PlayStation 5 Outsells Switch
@iLikeUrAttitude I do think it's time to ask some questions about how much longer the Switch will last, it is nearly 6 years old after all and we still have no idea when a successor might emerge.
I think as Sony makes further progress getting PS5 units actually out there in Japan we'll see Switch sales impress less and less, and if the Pokémon edition fails to significantly boost numbers Nintendo will likely take that as a signal that next year is the year to announce the next console... or at least start hyping it up. Personally I think it's too late for a "pro" revision and I believe Nintendo has likely shifted any tech developed for it onto the successor.
Re: Japanese Charts: Bayonetta 3 Debuts In Second As PlayStation 5 Outsells Switch
@darkswabber probably because he's always described as being the first westerner to design an official Pokémon, people just assume that means American 🤷🏼♂️
Re: Japanese Charts: Bayonetta 3 Debuts In Second As PlayStation 5 Outsells Switch
@darkswabber James Turner is British, FYI.
Re: Japanese Charts: Persona 5 Royal On Switch Steals Hearts
@FX29 that's useful info, thanks!
Re: Japanese Charts: Persona 5 Royal On Switch Steals Hearts
@FX29 what kind of story is it? I'm a fan of Xenoblade but I struggle with other JRPGs and I'm worried I wouldn't enjoy Persona 5...
Re: Bayonetta's OG Voice Actor Responds To Online Backlash In Ongoing Dispute
@Brett I'm not a "rube" or a fool for believing someone who presented themselves as a victim and who was clearly posting in distress, that makes me a human being with empathy and I'll do it again because I'm not a sociopath.
It's not childish to believe workers deserve to be paid more, when the world's billionaires have increased their wealth by an obscene 70% that's a fair and natural reaction to the way we've allowed grotesque inequality to get so out of control. As I told you before the earth has enough resources for literally everyone to live a comfortable life but unfortunately the selfish nature of some has led to extreme resource hoarding by wealthy nations and well, here we are.
I'm not ashamed to have stood by Hellena in the beginning, VAs do indeed deserve better pay and conditions. I hope Hellena moved past this now as we all must, and I hope her manipulation of the facts doesn't harm the cause of other VAs in their quest for better treatment.
I'm putting you on the ignore list now because I simply don't want to hear any more in the subject.
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@Brett I stand by what I said, I stopped looking at that comment section because I couldn't stand seeing the bile people had for someone trying to stand up for themselves and regardless of the truth of the matter now that still makes me baulk.
Calling other opinions dumb or childish because you don't agree with them is no way to win an argument. Have you looked out at the world lately? It's hardly dystopian to view corporations with disdain considering all they do to make life worse for us all, all in the pursuit of power, money, and influence. Have a look at how life is for those at the bottom and tell me that's fair, it's not and you can't deny it.
I chose to view Hellena's initial claims with empathy, something sadly amiss for most people commenting on this subject and I won't apologise for believing someone who presented themselves as a victim.
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@VinylCreep also:
"Honestly, as much as I think Hellena isn’t telling the full truth, I really hope she doesn’t get the full force of Twitter coming down on her."
This has been my problem from the start, so many people were so quick to judge her with hardly any information. Saying $4k was plenty for a job of which they had zero knowledge and which could have been a gruelling 6 month's worth of work for all they knew. I have to wonder if the story had gone the other way whether those people would be backing down had she been proven right, obviously she framed her initial arguments to put her in the best possible light and that has totally backfired...
I still maintain there's a nugget of truth in her story, I think she tried to hardball Kamiya and it went how it usually goes when a man-child doesn't like something and that's why she refused. I reckon she was fuming when they asked her to do the cameo and then blindsided by the official statement claiming they couldn't get the schedules to align, which is why she's gone on this tirade of half truths and lies of omission to kick up a stink in advance of the game's release.
What she hoped to actually achieve with all this I don't know, but I do know that it has exposed some pretty gross opinions in these comment sections. People all too quick to side with a corporation desperate to play their game regardless of the casualties, which at the beginning could have been entirely true; people happy to see creatives paid a pittance because all it is is "speaking into a mic for 4 hours" like they know a single thing about how hard it is to get into that industry and make a success of it, and the admonishments coming thick and fast when people think her IMDb listing functions as her CV when she's predominantly a theatre actress and those credits aren't listed.
It all just confirms my belief that no-one ever checks their biases before wading into an internet argument, including myself.
Re: Bayonetta's OG Voice Actor Responds To Online Backlash In Ongoing Dispute
@DoomPlague I'm guessing she meant $4k per session, though at this point it's hard to follow her arguments as they are somewhat incoherent
Re: Bayonetta's OG Voice Actor Responds To Online Backlash In Ongoing Dispute
@VinylCreep it was screenshots of some of her tweets, and apologies I thought it was anti-vax but it was some guff about autism being a man made/made up disease. I found the actual tweet thread on Twitter and it appears that she "apologised" for it and deleted the offending tweet, though it was a bit half arsed. Sorry for the confusion though, autism denial usually goes hand in hand with anti-vax sentiment but my brain put 2 + 2 together there.
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@VinylCreep uhh a friend shared something on Facebook, I'll see if I can verify.
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@DashKappei Hale is a proud anti-vaxxer btw, anyone can have sh*tty opinions.
Edit: autism denier not anti-vax, usually go hand in hand but I'd misread the tweet I saw where she claimed it was a man made/made up disease.
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Once again, some vile comments in this debate. Really wonder how our species has made it this far when people are so selfish and miserly.
Re: Bayonetta 3 Dev Responds To Voice Actor Dispute In Official Statement
@VinylCreep that's if you believe Bloomberg's reporting of two "anonymous sources" close to production. Remind me how accurate their Switch Pro reports were again
Re: Bayonetta 3 Dev Responds To Voice Actor Dispute In Official Statement
I still don't believe we've heard the truth in this story yet, and I don't think we ever will. I'm not sorry I believed Hellena Taylor and to be perfectly honest I still think what she said was the truth as she saw it, I'm just not convinced it was the whole story but I can tell she was posting those videos coming from a place of hurt and was genuinely upset so there's no shame in believing someone on those grounds.
All the people arguing the toss over whether VAs deserve to be paid $4k for their work are the ones who should be shamed, every worker across the world deserves to be paid more than they get get now. Everyone. It's the people at the top who need less, not the people actually doing the work.
Re: Bayonetta's New Voice Actor Jennifer Hale Issues Statement About Bayonetta 3
@YoshiF2 look, I know you Americans are indoctrinated against the big bad socialism, but socialism has nothing to do with any of this. This is capitalism at work, people are taught it's rude or taboo to discuss wages so the bosses can get away with paying people (usually women and poc) less than others, and when that doesn't work they're told to begrudge fast food workers unionizing because how very dare they think they deserve more for their dead end job... Socialism is at the very core of the Union movement where workers deserve to be paid significantly more for their work because they generate all the profit with their labour, it sounds from your comments like you agree with all this so I really don't get why socialism is the boogyman for you?
Re: Bayonetta's New Voice Actor Jennifer Hale Issues Statement About Bayonetta 3
@Acein210 you cannot take information pertaining to previous titles and assume it was the same for this game, I've read that Hellena was expected to voice more characters in the 3rd game meaning the workload would have increased. Also she was the voice of the main character, does she not deserve to be paid well for that work?
To me it seems like nothing more than a tantrum from Kamiya and knowing the calibre of Jennifer Hale I doubt she took a lower offer than Hellena rejected.
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@GameOtaku oh you're one of those kinds of people. The HOW DARE THAT PERSON EAT DECENT FOOD WHEN THEY HAVEN'T WORKED FOR IT kind of person 🙄
You made an assumption about that couple and their ability to work, you have no idea who they are or why they get government help yet you've made a value judgement on them and decided they're undeserving. Let me tell you, this kind of rhetoric is only ever used by corporations and politicians to turn you against your class and instead of moaning about the literal crumbs people get from governments to survive situations you know nothing about, how about looking up at the billionaires avoiding billions in tax or the politicians taking "donations" from oil companies to deny climate change and prevent renewable energy... Look up, not down. 🤦🏼♂️
Re: Bayonetta's New Voice Actor Jennifer Hale Issues Statement About Bayonetta 3
@Nanoline52 like crabs in a bucket
Re: Bayonetta's New Voice Actor Jennifer Hale Issues Statement About Bayonetta 3
@steely_pete did she not say Platinum as a company made that much? That's what I heard her say in the video anyway, might have been the way she worded it but I thought she said the company not the game series itself.
Other VAs have had a multitude of opinions on the matter, but neither you, they, or I know exactly how much work was expected of Hellena Taylor in the production of this game; in my opinion voicing an entire game with multiple characters sounds like it would require more than the 4 hours or whatever everyone keeps quoting here as a matter of fact even though it's an assumption based on how long previous games took to record, that plus the way she spoke in her video sounded like it's come from a place of hurt which -actress or no- I believe.
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@Kryhme you don't know that for a fact, you cannot take information based on previous games and simply assume it was the same for this game.