This C&D is so incredibly touchy, it's unreal. You cannot deny that, at a baseline, Nintendo has every right to C&D this event, but also at the same time you'd think that if they would do it for a tournament they would do it for Project Slippi itself, correct? Well, from my understanding of emulators and the law it seems that since Slippi is just a frontend and modification for Dolphin, Slippi itself is, in a way, protected by the law since there have been multiple court cases in the past involving emulators where the court sided with the emulator authors and not the console manufacturer (it's exactly the reason why Yuzu hasn't been shut down despite it being an emulator for a commercially relevant console).
What I'm trying to get at is that since Slippi development has a very low chance at being shutdown due to previous court precedent, The Big House Online being shuttered due to the usage of Slippi could very possibly have been something that Nintendo doesn't have the right to do. They're also basically saying that the C&D was sent to Juggleguy and the rest of the TOs due to the requirement of having to pirate a Melee ISO in order to enter, but as many people know, at least in the US, it isn't piracy if the copy that you're using was copied from your own physical copy of the game that you own, so how can Nintendo prove that every single entrant pirated Melee in order to use Slippi? The answer is of course they can't, but Nintendo has had a history of believing that all digital copies of their physical games are illegal, so this is them holding firm in that belief, whether it is right or wrong in the definition of the law they obviously don't care.
Another obvious inconsistency about all of this that you would know if you follow competitive Melee is that there is a Melee netplay tournament happening right now from today until Sunday, run by a production company called Beyond the Summit, called Smash Summit 10 Online. Again, if Nintendo would C&D Big House why the heck would they not C&D Summit? I think the answer lies in the fact that all Big House events held since Smash Wii U came out (that's the fifth Big House held in 2015) have been sponsored by / partnered with Nintendo, while Beyond the Summit has never directly been involved with Nintendo for an event (they did provide the stream for Big House 9 last year for example but did not organize the event). Nintendo probably feels that since Big House has represented Nintendo in the past that people would assume that Nintendo supports Slippi, which they obviously would never do. It is stupid that they're basically allowing one tournament to run while shutting another, but from my understanding that's probably why they went after Big House and not Summit.
whew that was a lot of typing for a game i personally don't like playing but love to spectate, i hope this all makes sense (tbf it is close to 2am where I'm from so my apologies if this doesn't lol)
@Crockin and I don't care for people who hate other people just because they like a particular video game a lot, just let people like what they like man
@GammaPhonic Looking back the chairs could be seen as just simple background decoration, but why the heck would Nintendo place a giant watermelon on a table that's in the middle of the screen for no reason?
Crazy how Sun and Moon has nearly overtaken X and Y in sales considering how late it came out in the 3DS's life. The GO craze definitely assisted in that for sure
That half of a Game Card in theory should still work since that's actually the whole board, it's only missing the plastic shell. I'm curious about what's on it...
@AirElephant They aren't only making physical copies via the collector's edition! You'll be able to pre-order just a physical copy the same day the collector's edition goes on sale!
@HatenoLife Actually yeah never mind I mistook the sales in brackets as not including this week's sales and just added the two numbers together LOL my bad
Sort of unrelated to the topic at hand but is 4J even allowed to share that picture of the devkits? I feel that there would be an NDA covering that lol
...Why did Battle Network 4 of all games reach over a million sales? Kinda seems to me like a random game in the franchise to sell very well, unless there's an actual reason why and it didn't just sell well by chance
I've always chosen my mains based on how much fun I have with the character, and if how they control feels right in the hands. In Smash 4 that was Dr. Mario, in this game it's Dr. Mario again and Young Link.
I had to stop playing GO for about a year and a half because I had rooted my phone so that I could delete system apps and move apps to an SD card (my phone had like 8GB of storage and Android takes up half of that). I've since gotten a new phone with more storage so I've been able to play the game again more recently. Considering all the hacking that was going on at the time I could understand why they started to ban rooted phones, but going this far is not okay.
The Smash Wii U grand finals were a complete joke, both Lima and Captain Zack were not taking it seriously (though it seems like almost all top Bayonetta players are really good friends so that's probably the root cause)
@JaxonH afaik, even though Treasure worked on the series Nintendo owns the rights to Sin and Punishment, so I don't think that would be able to happen (at least if Nicalis were to publish it)
I just got a copy of Curious Village recently, however I don't really have a lot of time right now to be playing anything more than a few rounds of Smash Wii U every now and then because school is starting to wrap up. But once I'm out of school I'll be diving headfirst into this game!
A million sales is certainly nothing to scoff at, but I kinda expected this game to had sold at least 2 million copies considering the amount of praise and media coverage the game got. Am I the only one who was thinking this?
@BornInNorway81 there actually were Brawl tournaments but pretty much everyone who played that game competitively moved on to Smash Wii U as soon as it came out
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Re: Smash Comp The Big House Cancelled After Cease And Desist From Nintendo
This C&D is so incredibly touchy, it's unreal. You cannot deny that, at a baseline, Nintendo has every right to C&D this event, but also at the same time you'd think that if they would do it for a tournament they would do it for Project Slippi itself, correct? Well, from my understanding of emulators and the law it seems that since Slippi is just a frontend and modification for Dolphin, Slippi itself is, in a way, protected by the law since there have been multiple court cases in the past involving emulators where the court sided with the emulator authors and not the console manufacturer (it's exactly the reason why Yuzu hasn't been shut down despite it being an emulator for a commercially relevant console).
What I'm trying to get at is that since Slippi development has a very low chance at being shutdown due to previous court precedent, The Big House Online being shuttered due to the usage of Slippi could very possibly have been something that Nintendo doesn't have the right to do. They're also basically saying that the C&D was sent to Juggleguy and the rest of the TOs due to the requirement of having to pirate a Melee ISO in order to enter, but as many people know, at least in the US, it isn't piracy if the copy that you're using was copied from your own physical copy of the game that you own, so how can Nintendo prove that every single entrant pirated Melee in order to use Slippi? The answer is of course they can't, but Nintendo has had a history of believing that all digital copies of their physical games are illegal, so this is them holding firm in that belief, whether it is right or wrong in the definition of the law they obviously don't care.
Another obvious inconsistency about all of this that you would know if you follow competitive Melee is that there is a Melee netplay tournament happening right now from today until Sunday, run by a production company called Beyond the Summit, called Smash Summit 10 Online. Again, if Nintendo would C&D Big House why the heck would they not C&D Summit? I think the answer lies in the fact that all Big House events held since Smash Wii U came out (that's the fifth Big House held in 2015) have been sponsored by / partnered with Nintendo, while Beyond the Summit has never directly been involved with Nintendo for an event (they did provide the stream for Big House 9 last year for example but did not organize the event). Nintendo probably feels that since Big House has represented Nintendo in the past that people would assume that Nintendo supports Slippi, which they obviously would never do. It is stupid that they're basically allowing one tournament to run while shutting another, but from my understanding that's probably why they went after Big House and not Summit.
whew that was a lot of typing for a game i personally don't like playing but love to spectate, i hope this all makes sense (tbf it is close to 2am where I'm from so my apologies if this doesn't lol)
@Crockin and I don't care for people who hate other people just because they like a particular video game a lot, just let people like what they like man
Re: Introducing The Smash Stick, A Fight Stick Specially Designed For Super Smash Bros.
Why the random PlayStation 3 support lol
Re: Random: Sega Just Issued A Patch Which Protects Your Sensitive Eyes From Vocaloid Panties
Literally unplayable.
Re: Hideki Kamiya Says Bayonetta 3 Development Is Progressing "Very Smoothly"
What does he mean by "the inspection for new systems"?
Re: Panty Party On Switch Gets Online Multiplayer Support Next Spring
Aw heck yeah, can't wait to play this one with the boys
Re: Nintendo Expands The Switch Online SNES And NES Service With Six Classic Games
For 30 bucks I may bite on those NES controllers, always kinda wanted those but never wanted to pay 60 dollars for them
Re: Review: Resident Evil Triple Pack - Only One Game On The Actual Cart, But It's The Right One
Were the other 2 RE games released on cart in any other region (I'd assume in japan if it was at all)?
Re: House Of The Dead 1 And 2 Are Coming To Switch
Can we get Typing of the Dead though?
Re: Random: Nintendo Posts About Mario Enjoying Sunshine, Internet Goes Wild
@GammaPhonic Looking back the chairs could be seen as just simple background decoration, but why the heck would Nintendo place a giant watermelon on a table that's in the middle of the screen for no reason?
Re: The Grandia HD Collection Is "Coming Soon" To Nintendo Switch
Never played Grandia, will probably get this!
Re: A 3DS eShop Title Just Launched For An Eye-Watering $100
This is more expensive than a 2DS.
Re: The Top 10 Best-Selling Games For Wii U, 3DS, Wii And Nintendo DS (As Of March 2019)
Crazy how Sun and Moon has nearly overtaken X and Y in sales considering how late it came out in the 3DS's life. The GO craze definitely assisted in that for sure
Re: Random: Switch Owner Finds Half A Game Card Inside Their Copy Of Civilization VI
That half of a Game Card in theory should still work since that's actually the whole board, it's only missing the plastic shell. I'm curious about what's on it...
Re: Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Was The Fifth Best-Selling Game Last Year In The US
Holy expletive, and with only 1 month on sale! Truly impressive, I could see it becoming the best-selling Switch game, easy.
Re: Meet The 'SwitchGuard', An Accessory That Aims To Keep Your Switch From Being Stolen
I could see this being in wide use at Smash tournaments, as it should!
Re: Check Out The Celeste Collector's Edition, Pre-Orders Begin Next Tuesday
@AirElephant They aren't only making physical copies via the collector's edition! You'll be able to pre-order just a physical copy the same day the collector's edition goes on sale!
Re: Check Out The Celeste Collector's Edition, Pre-Orders Begin Next Tuesday
I'd get the collector's edition if only for the game's OST on cassette, I just don't have the money for it right now which sucks
Re: Japanese Charts: Smash Bros. Ultimate Continues To Dominate As Switch Consoles Fly Off Shelves
@HatenoLife Actually yeah never mind I mistook the sales in brackets as not including this week's sales and just added the two numbers together LOL my bad
Re: Minecraft: Wii U Edition Gets Its Last Ever Update, Developer 4J Reminisces Over Last Gen Consoles
Sort of unrelated to the topic at hand but is 4J even allowed to share that picture of the devkits? I feel that there would be an NDA covering that lol
Re: Japanese Charts: Smash Bros. Ultimate Continues To Dominate As Switch Consoles Fly Off Shelves
looking at the charts, Ultimate has sold more copies in 2 weeks than the amount Mario Kart 8 Deluxe sold in its entire lifespan, that's insane
Edit: never mind I'm dumb and this hasn't happened yet (though it probably will next week!)
Re: Mega Man Legacy Collection Sells One Million, A First For The Series In 15 Years
...Why did Battle Network 4 of all games reach over a million sales? Kinda seems to me like a random game in the franchise to sell very well, unless there's an actual reason why and it didn't just sell well by chance
Re: Here Are The Best And Worst Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Characters According To Pro Players
I've always chosen my mains based on how much fun I have with the character, and if how they control feels right in the hands. In Smash 4 that was Dr. Mario, in this game it's Dr. Mario again and Young Link.
Re: Campo Santo Releases Firewatch On Switch eShop Later This Month
Always wanted to give this one a try but couldn't. Will be picking this one up!
Re: SEGA AGES Sonic The Hedgehog 2 Might Be The Best Version We've Ever Had
Better than the mobile version though?
Re: More Fighters Are Being Added To The Super Smash Bros. Ultimate amiibo Line
The fact that the Konami characters don't have confirmed amiibo means that either Konami won't allow it or they're holding them back for a 3-pack.
Re: Random: Treat Your Loved Ones To These Joy-Con Knife Blade Holders This Holiday Season
These would make for an interesting ARMS session
Re: Pre-Orders Are Now Live For These Officially Licensed Nintendo Switch Protectors
If there was one that was a little more discreet I'd buy it.
Re: Video: New Super Mario Bros. Wii Mod Adds Bowsette To Final Boss Battle
This is actually extremely well made imo but I wish the modder's talents could've been spent elsewhere LMAO
Re: Kirby's Extra Epic Yarn Will Apparently Be Exclusive To New Nintendo 3DS
The game is too epic for the original 3DS I guess
Re: Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Special Edition Controller And Game Bundle Revealed
@Smilegang1337 Old doesn't mean bad!
Re: Pokémon GO Is Allegedly Abusing Its Android Storage Read Permissions To Combat Rooting
I had to stop playing GO for about a year and a half because I had rooted my phone so that I could delete system apps and move apps to an SD card (my phone had like 8GB of storage and Android takes up half of that). I've since gotten a new phone with more storage so I've been able to play the game again more recently. Considering all the hacking that was going on at the time I could understand why they started to ban rooted phones, but going this far is not okay.
Re: Super Smash Bros. EVO 2018 Tournament Winners Crowned
The Smash Wii U grand finals were a complete joke, both Lima and Captain Zack were not taking it seriously (though it seems like almost all top Bayonetta players are really good friends so that's probably the root cause)
Re: Feature: Nicalis On The Timeless Allure Of Physical Games And Bringing More Treasure Titles To Switch
@JaxonH afaik, even though Treasure worked on the series Nintendo owns the rights to Sin and Punishment, so I don't think that would be able to happen (at least if Nicalis were to publish it)
Re: The Original Professor Layton Game Is Getting A Mobile HD Remake In Japan
I just got a copy of Curious Village recently, however I don't really have a lot of time right now to be playing anything more than a few rounds of Smash Wii U every now and then because school is starting to wrap up. But once I'm out of school I'll be diving headfirst into this game!
Re: Random: Childish Gambino Sampled Donkey Kong Country And David Wise Definitely Approves
I found a video where he talks about this song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5aC2lLuIGo
Re: Yuji Naka Wanted To Join Nintendo After He Finished Working For Sega
@patbacknitro18 I don't think that Nintendo is worried about Sonic these days...
Re: Here Are The Participants In The Super Smash Bros. Invitational 2018 Tournament
These are some really good picks, good job Nintendo!
Re: Sonic Mania Has Sold Over A Million Units Worldwide
A million sales is certainly nothing to scoff at, but I kinda expected this game to had sold at least 2 million copies considering the amount of praise and media coverage the game got. Am I the only one who was thinking this?
Re: Random: A Game Boy Cartridge Case Can Perfectly Store 15 Of Your Switch Games
This is actually from BalrogTheMaster on Twitter https://twitter.com/BalrogGameRoom/status/988244523833810946?s=19
Re: Random: Retro Games Collector Finds Drugs Smuggled Inside NES Cartridges
Uh... Iwata's spirit lives on?
Re: Random: There's A New Game On The Japanese Switch eShop That's Definitely NSFW
...So, review when?
Re: Competition: Win A Set Of Third Editions Books, Including Zelda, Dark Souls And Final Fantasy
I'd say my favourite video game-related book(s) would have to be the Pokémon anime novelizations by Scholastic, I have fond memories of reading those.
Re: HAMSTER Acquires Rights To Complete Video System Catalogue
@Alto Even if they packaged only a few games on one card it would still be an incredible value
Re: YouTubers Bring The Pain In The Wacky World Of Subscribe & Punch!
I think we got a contender for next year's EVO!
Re: Spread The Love With These Adorable Nintendo-Themed Valentine's Cards
shoutouts to that Boo and Dry Bones render from 2005 that's still apparently getting reused
Re: Indie Dev tinyBuild Is Announcing Six New Switch Games In Live A Stream Tomorrow
@RETRO_J They're talking about a sequel to Live A Live that doesn't exist, shhhhhh
Re: This Year's Genesis 5 Smash Bros Tournament To Officially Partner With Nintendo
@BornInNorway81 there actually were Brawl tournaments but pretty much everyone who played that game competitively moved on to Smash Wii U as soon as it came out
Re: Site News: A Fond Farewell from Nintendo Life Editor, Thomas Whitehead
Thanks Tom! Good luck with future endeavors!
Re: Discord CEO Reiterates His Company Is Keen To Work With Nintendo On Switch Voice Chat
@Neon_Blues It is though
Re: Mega Man 11 Confirmed For Switch In 2018
The way they animated Mega Man walking feels a bit off, as does a lot of the other animations. Still curious to see what comes from this, though!