One of the drawbacks of being a massive company with a long history and a massive amount of IP is that almost any message you publically release – no matter how innocent – could be misinterpreted or read into a little too much by fans.
That may well be the case with a tweet recently posted by Nintendo of America, which includes the words "Mario" and "Sunshine" – although it's worth pointing out that these words are separated by other words. Still, that doesn't stop the internet!
To add fuel to the fire, it was then pointed out that Nintendo has been randomly positioning fruit on its Gamescom coverage:
https://twitter.com/Gokuiio/status/1164585043920138240
Could Twitter be onto something here? Why is there fruit all over the tables in Nintendo's Gamescom booth? Could we get a new Super Mario Sunshine, or is this a tease for a HD remaster of the (oft-maligned) GameCube original? Answers on a postcard, please.
[source twitter.com]
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I Really Like Sunshine
Hmmmmmmmmmmm... I dunno. Could be... but it could be Nintendo being Nintendo.
I think it’s great this game is still so beloved. I liked many aspects of it, but I hope if they remaster it they improve on a lot of the issues the game had. Rose tinted shades are fun to wear, I use them a lot myself when playing old games. But man is Sunshine dated now.
Remember the purple and yellow chairs in the Smash direct? Often, people will believe something for no other reason than they want it to be true.
Lol love the fruit! Never played Sunshine but I know it's beloved by many so would love a remaster. Direct is only a couple weeks away!
I’d really love to replay this game on a modern console with a couple of tweaks. Hope we’re onto something!
I'd say the Tweet is just a coincidence, but the randomly placed fruit is a LITTLE too suspect to just be a coincidence.
@GammaPhonic Looking back the chairs could be seen as just simple background decoration, but why the heck would Nintendo place a giant watermelon on a table that's in the middle of the screen for no reason?
I know Nintendo well enough by this point to know that this might be absolutely nothing, but that fruit is random af.
I would really love a HD Super Mario Sunshine. Do wonder if Nintendo will ever make a HD version of Super Mario 64.
Am I the only one who would love it if Nintendo just placed super random stuff on tables or whatever in videos just to troll? Like have a table that randomly has a top hat on it, by a mario amiibo, with a globe somewhere off to the side. MARIO ODYSSEY 2?!?!?!
It's official!!!! They like to do sneaky stuffs like that. Cost nothing and they are able to test the water! I must admit, I like it too.
Everyone concerned about fruit, while I'm over here staring at Ness' dad sitting on the table....
I would love this to be true as Sunshine is still my fave 3D Mario platformer but i think it's probably just coincidence, we're more likely to get a port of 3D World early next year than a Sunshine remake, as much as i think it deserves a re-release.
I didn't like sunshine much, personally. 64 was more fun for me. It's hard to put my finger on why.
Sunshine just felt too constrained.
Oh gosh, I know everyone is talking about Sunshine, but I hope SEGA never does a Sonic render without gloves and shoes geez.
super mario odyssey dlc incoming
Nintendo puts the words Mario and Sunshine in the same sentence this is the fan reaction they are going to get we know Nintendo has no intention of putting Mario Sunshine on the Switch in any ways
Boy, they really took their time! Delfino Isle was on the promo art and globe and everything. Already bought the Sunshine outfit, so I'm ready for it!
I'd prefer the Galaxy HD releases China got.
@Kalmaro Same with me. I'm willing to play Sunshine again. Bought it at launch originally but never fell in love with it. Maybe because I wanted a proper 3D Mushroom Kingdom Mario 64 sequel and never got it. Only the masterpiece that is Odyssey came nearest.
Now I appreciate Sunshines look and mechanics more than before. My money is ready!
I'd prefer 3D World 2...
Hint Hint for the next Direct?????
I’d rather an Odyssey 2 than an HD Sunshine. (Or both, happily take both).
If I’m getting BotW2, I want an Odyssey 2. 2017 spoiled me.
@wazlon I'd be more than happy with a cleaned up Mario 64 DS port.
As much as I've been dreaming of Sunshine HD/2 for many years now...I've also learned to take Nintendo's comments with a pinch of salt. I'll believe it when I see it, followed shortly after by uncontrollable tears of joy.
But seriously Nintendo, Sunshine HD please and thank you.
I'm usually very sceptical of reading too much into this stuff but the tweet combined with the fruits could definitely be a tease.
We still don’t have a game for December.... just saying
I see sunshine and odyssey in a post and I say GIMME BOTH!!!! NOW!?!??!
@CarpeDiem they still should have released a dlc (at least one), just make sense financially
The fruit is coS it appears in Mansion 3 would love a sunshine Remake though
Sunshine would be good on the Switch. I played it again last year on my Wii.
It's no Super Mario Odyssey in my view but it's now old enough to attract a whole new audience and older folk (like me) would pick it up for nostalgic purposes and because it was a great game.....
I'd love this to be true but realistically if Nintendo are going to remaster old IP they're not going to pick a Mario title that didn't have the strongest critical reception.
Its summer... Mario is their biggest character. SO MANY CLUES.
Not.
Yeah, a summer vacation can be a whole galaxy of enjoyable memories and impressions.
gets dogpiled
Nintendo do like to tease! It's a viral way of doing some market research, that is if it was intentional. Sunshine was a Marmite game; you either loved or hated it. I fell into the latter category. My copy was enjoyed by both my Sister and my GF though so wasn't a wasted purchase ^_^
Mario Maker needs themes, could sunshine be a 2d theme?
@Rob3008 It had a really strong critical reception at the time of its release though - 92% on both GameRankings and Metacritic. It seems it’s only really become ‘cool’ to hate on it in the years since, because it IS a good game. Admittedly, it’s my second-least favourite of the 3D main series games above 3D Land, but I think that if Nintendo believes they can improve upon it in a remake, a title that already had some obvious flaws is actually a perfect choice for a remaster.
If it's anything, I'm guessing a HD remaster. I doubt they're making a sequel. Far more likely they're making an Odyssey sequel for the next main 3D mario. That had so much more potential, I just can't see them not.
@Markiemania95 I just meant it's maybe not looked on as fondly as something else from the Mario universe like Galaxy 1 & 2. Mario games really set the bar high!
50 comments and nobody has mentioned the lack of analog triggers?
I've been waiting for SMSHD since the Wii U but I can't imagine using FLUDD w/o analog controls.
i like SO MUCH mario sunshine,
difficulty in the right measure, a lot to do, great physics, much underrated this game.
I love how people always forget that Mario Sunshine wasn't a good game
@getyourak it couldn't possibly be that they just like the game. Nah. Everyone else is wrong and you're right
Those fruit are definitely for Luigi’s Mansion and the tweet is just generic back to school schlock peddled by every major kid-friendly company this time of year. But y’know, carry on, or whatever. Internet gonna internet.
EDIT: I should say that the watermelon is for Luigi’s Mansion and the pineapple is from Link’s Awakening. Just like the rest of the decor represents the game shown on the screen in the back.
Super Mario Sunshine Remaster ahoy !
TBH I loved Sunshine and I think it would benefit greatly from an HD treatment. I love the aesthetic of any ocean tropical environment. However, I see this being more of a mario odyssey DLC. Especially since Delfino was on the globe initially.
I must have played pretty much every mainline Mario game ever and from World onwards, at launch. Sunshine never really clicked for me. I found the FLUDD mechanics detracted from the ‘pure’ platforming. My favourite parts were the levels where it was taken away to focus just on Mario’s now standard suite of jumps and abilities.
I’d be keen to revisit it now I’m a more seasoned gamer, but in all honestly I can’t see my thoughts changing. If they did some work on the mechanics and made it a little bit more accessible I’d me much more willing to give it a shot. Sort the camera out too whilst they’re at it.
Now, a new title in the series, framed as a spin off and running with the weirdness that could be further explores amongst the habitants of Delfino Island and I’d be totally down.
Normally my first reaction is "just a coincidence the internet latched on to", but in this case, it seemes exceedingly contrived to get those words in there, and the prior punning of "odyssey" before "sunshine" kind of spells it out. Yes, they're teasing quite on purpose!
Sunshine is the only Mario game I've never played. It was already impossible to find when I got my Wii and Wavebird. I'd love to get a chance to play it as it introduced one of my favorite recurring themes and environments in subsequent Mario spinoffs (M&L, Kart, etc.)
@rjejr No analogs, but it has motion controls and a touch screen that can be shoehorned in! Problem solved, "in a Nintendo-like way"
I love how everyone is all about Sunshine these days. Back in the GameCube era hardly anyone was singing its praises. Honestly, I quite enjoyed it, but it was my first 3D Mario game as I skipped the N64 era.
@HammerKirby Aren't we arrogant!?
@GammaPhonic A better example would be if Sakurai had the Yellow and Purple chairs in the background, and then later he tweeted a picture of Waluigi with the phrase, "Look who's ready for a SMASHING day".
Ooooh excellent. So they are making Isle Delfino for Mario Odyssey? Hope its packed with loads of levels like the secret ones in Sunshine (without FLUDD). I always thought there was room for another 2 areas on the world map.
(Would take a Mario Sunshine HD also...but they need to gimme analogue triggers first)
Ok so we are either getting Mario Sunshine HD, A Mario Sunshine Sequel in the Super Mario Odyssey Engine, or we will finally get DLC kingdoms for Super Mario Odyssey.
@GrailUK Funny enough originally the globe on the ship in Super Mario Odyssey used to have Isle Delfino on it. But for some unknown reason, Nintendo ended up removing it in a patch. Everyone thought that maybe Nintendo was planning to release Isle Delfino as dlc. But 2 years after it was removed and no Isle Delfino.
@ConanLives Yes... YES... YEEEEEESESSSSS!!!!!!!!!
Could be DLC for Odyssey, but I don't see a remaster of Sunshine coming in. That's just people dreaming. It's a nice dream, for sure, but I honestly don't see it happening. Also, the tweet did specifically say "Summer Odyssey", so if anything, it's only in the context of the latest Mario game, far as I'm concerned.
And besides: Nintendo is far too busy being behind the times, what with still unloading NES title after NES title upon us, instead of moving up the catalog and giving us something more recent, much like the other two parties are doing...
I don’t take stock in rumors but I feel like now would be a good time to dig in that back catalogue for remake/remaster fodder. Switch sales well so investors should be happy. Time to take some risks.
Love sunshine. Take them blue coins away and I love sunshine. I also generally love sunshine
The only Mario game I have never played, so would love a HD remaster.
So with PAX West happening next week, the place holders in Gamestop, i recon next week
DIRECT INCOMMING!! - BEGIN THE HYPE
@patbacknitro18 Oh stop it now! That would be amazing!!! Folk happy to have Gamecube ports without analogue triggers don't deserve Gamecube ports.
@ThanosReXXX Then again we have had quite a few Zelda games remastered. And it's been 2 years since we have seen a mainline Mario Project. And if they remaster the game in the Super Mario Odyssey Engine, then they could knock out the game fairly quickly. What are the chances of it happening? LOOOOOOW. But considering this, alongside the 14 or so new GameStop Switch game listings. Perhaps a Mario Sunshine project is in the works for Switch.
@jswhitfield8 Actually not that thin. There's also Daemon Ex Machina, and Astral Chain coming out as well.
@NEStalgia Not available anymore? Where exactly have you been looking?
https://www.lukiegames.com/super-mario-sunshine-gamecube
https://www.amazon.com/Super-Mario-Sunshine-Gamecube/dp/B000066JRN
https://www.gamestop.com/video-games/retro-gaming/gamecube/games/products/super-mario-sunshine/10020678.html
It does cost a sweet number of pennies, but it is still very much available to this day...
Sounds more like Sunshine DLC for Oddyssey than Sunshine remastered/remake/sequel
@patbacknitro18 They said after Pokemon. Both of those game come out before Pokemon.
@patbacknitro18 True, but Zelda has always been something special, even compared to Mario, and where we did have remasters of Zelda games on the Wii and Wii U, we didn't have any remasters of 3D Mario games.
The 2D Mario games don't really compare in that regard, so I'd still sooner be expecting it to be Odyssey DLC or maybe a sequel to Odyssey.
September Direct will tell us.
@rjejr Well, they could always make it compatible with that GameCube controller plugin gadget that works with Smash Bros.
I don't know, but they mentioned Odyssey too, so maybe Island Delfino will be added to Mario Odyssey as a DLC ?
@PBandSmelly a lot of people say that but why?
If this means what everyone thinks it means: Good work, the hype train has left the station.
If not: Come on Nintendo, you can't set 'em up like that.
Personally I really want a Galaxy 1+2 collection for the Switch.
They teased links awakening remake like two years ago and nobody noticed. I would love mario sunshine hd but they should give is a port of 3d world already, since its less work. Also were are my paper mario ports!? I'd settle for color splash that game was so underrated just cause it was similar to sticker star.
If this Mario Sunshine HD Remaster turns out to be true, I will be very happy. Time to play that damn Pachinko level again, but in HD.
@ThanosReXXX Actually we did get a (Well remake actually) of Super Mario 64 on the DS with a ton of new content. Which sure that was a long time ago, but maybe they finally decided to revisit Sunshine. After all Miyamoto did say that he didn't want to make a remake/remaster of Mario 64 since they already made the remake on DS. So mayhaps they are getting around to the next game in the series.
I'd rather see a new or port of pikmin 3 to be fair. Sunshine was ok but the lack of analogue triggers will mean no control over FLUDD. Besides I think fruit has more in common with pikmin than it does with mario sunshine.
Oh man I wish the name of remakes would change! I never want an HD remake, but I always want a 60fps remake or high performance remake or whatever it should be called. I'd much rather have Mario Sunshine running at the same resolution as it was on GameCube, but running at 60fps, than have it at 720p or 1080p or 4K or stupid ass 8K running at 30fps. I wish all these huge corporations were oriented toward 60fps remakes rather than HD remakes. That said, I'm sure Mario 64 and Mario Sunshine could run at 1080p and 60fps on Switch. They don't need higher polygon models or higher resolution texture maps (but Nintendo could probably add those too and still run 60fps at 1080p on Switch). I hope Mario Sunshine comes to Switch running at 60fps just like Mario Odyssey does! Oh, and where the heck are those Mario Galaxy games? Why only in China? Everyone wants to play those on Switch!
nope its just a tweet with the words mario and sunshine. doesnt mean a thing!
@Kidfunkadelic83 2 things. 1. Actually, Fruit plays a vital role in the setting of Mario Sunshine. You can't think about Delfino Plaza without thinking about Fruits being all over the place. Not to mention Fruit also plays a role in how Yoshi works in that game. And 2. A real credible leaker had leaked the first Nintendo Direct we had this year, and he had gotten every single game right on the direct, except 2 games that were on the list but hadn't shown up in the direction. Those being a port of the Metroid Prime Trilogy Collection, and as he simply put "Pikmin 3" Which he either meant a Port of Pikmin 3, or he mistyped it and he meant we should have gotten a Pikmin 4 reveal.
This article is BRIGHT! This is a SHINING example of Nintendo playing with us.
I don't think we'd get a Sunshine remaster but possibly Odyssey DLC that takes place on Isle Delfino like the Odyssey map back in 2017 suggested or an Odyssey 2 having Isle Delfino as a kingdom. Given it's been so long since Odyssey's launch maybe if the former they'd do a separate retail release for the DLC like Torna.
Personally? Nintendo seldomly interacts with us like that. The picture is way too random. It's been summer in the north hemisphere for some time now. The fact they mention some Sunshine in between your Odyssey just sells it entirely to me as a Mario Sunshine tease. Also the fruit. I saw the pineapple back then and was confused "are they eating fruit between games?? Is that the thing now?"
It makes sense to do a remaster of Sunshine, given that they did Link's Awakening after Breath of the Wild. A remaster of Sunshine could be done by an outside studio (under Nintendo's supervision) and can be done in less time. Something to keep the Switch buzz going while Miyamoto's team work on the next Mario, which probably is still years away.
The fruit on the table means nothing. The watermelon is for a level in Luigi's Mansion 3 and the pineapple represents the tropical setting of Link's Awakening. That oddly worded tweet though? Hmmmmm....
Last time Nintendo and fruit were together, it was bananas, and a DK game showed up. Watermelon huh? Yoshi's Island...?
Then again, a remaster of Super Mario Galaxy 1 & 2 will be more welcome, at least in the west...
I would only believe it if Nintendo replied with the answer ' nothing to announce at this time'
@ThanosReXXX LOL, yeah, I meant for sane prices...
New Sunshine could be a remaster. Or it could be Sunshine 2. But I don't think they'll forever abandon the property no matter what. People are familiar with its world from Kart and such.
It also says “Odyssey.” 🤦🏼♂️ Come on people...
@AG_Awesome I hope if they remaster it they improve on a lot of the issues the game had
See now if I had typed this I would have anticipated that readers would want to know what I thought the issues were in the game. Maybe I am just an oddball for anticipating responses to my posts?
Could it just be DLC for Oddysee?
OMG, I hope this turns out to be a hint for a remastered Super Mario Sunshine. It was easily my most played game on GameCube. I'm trying not to get my hopes up too high. This is Nintendo, after all. Who am I kidding? I'll be super disappointed if this doesn't happen.
@Bunkerneath I'd guess September 4th, 5th or 12th for the next Direct. At this point with the insanity of the September lineup, I think a Direct next week with even more announcements would negatively affect the sales of Astral Chain.
@Crono1973 Some people get really bent out of shape when you criticize this game so I wouldn’t be surprised. For me the issues were control quirks and camera issues that would frustrate me. It’s cool if some people had a fine time with it, but I didn’t at times due to those.
I'd prefer a Galaxy 3 to round out the trilogy
Omg please please please!
@AG_Awesome Hopefully they replace some of the blue coins with new shines.
@patbacknitro18 Well, I was only looking at home console remakes, not handhelds. But even in handheld platforms, Zelda remakes already surpass Mario remakes in number.
But that is besides the point. I was purely looking at GameCube remakes on last gen platforms such as the Wii and Wii U, and in that regard, there's never been any initiative from Nintendo to do something Mario-related.
We as fans might see that as an indication that it's about time that a reboot/remaster of a Mario title does arrive, but looking at it as objectively as I can, I'm most certainly not going to hold my breath, expecting Mario Sunshine to arrive on the Switch.
I'll believe it when it's actually officially confirmed.
@NEStalgia I told you they cost a sweet penny, but they're still available regardless, and you didn't mention prices.
Concerning that possible remake or whatever: all of the things currently happening and being tweeted about, is just Nintendo being Nintendo, and fans reading into things far too deep, if you ask me.
There were also melons in Luigi's Mansion, so at this point, a randomly placed melon could mean just about anything. Maybe they're adding the option to grow melons in the upcoming Animal Crossing or whatever.
Ah, who cares... we'll know when Nintendo finally sees fit to tell us.
Isn't it obvious guys. A Mario x Fruit Ninja game is coming soon!
I need Super Mario Sunshine for the Switch!!
Never played it, but I'd like too. It looks fun. Also, I want watermelon now.
I really wish the re-release it, fixing the "inverted" camera controls of the original. It's the reason why I can't play my copy of Sunshine, and I've really tried.
Mario Sunshine was rubbish
@Crono1973 I'm hoping the blue coins get cut altogether. Or at the very least make a checklist so it is easier to see which blue coins were missed and in exactly which mission they can be obtained!
Surely! Given that sunshine is all about Mario being on a summer holiday, but again could just be standard Nintendo move.
The watermelons are to do with the level they're playing in Luigi's mansion in that video.
Also, next direct on 31/8? See 2 mins in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fl3yHJ4JCC8
What about Luigi? He's at home watering the plants and emptying the mail box... No break for him ;( NOT FAIR!!
@ThanosReXXX Nintendo's been cheekier lately. Aonuma's "game where you can play a thief" was a lot more subtle a hint than this one after all, but was indeed a hint!
And unlike Sakurai, the rest of Nintendo doesn't constantly troll meaninglessly.
Normally I'd agree with you. But THIS tweet. Specifically contriving a way to put Sunshine in a sentence keyed with Odyssey.... personally I think it goes SO far out of its way to be obvious there's no room for it to be coincidence...it kind of did some sentence structure gymnastics to arrive at that.
Half of me thinks the internet is overreacting and is making something out of nothing. It wouldn't be the first time that's happened.
The other half that hasn't owned a GameCube or ever played Super Mario Sunshine really hopes a remaster is coming, and that these ARE subtle hints.
As per usual, I won't get too hyped until we hear something concrete from the Big N.
I am likely the only one who immediately thought of the dude at Nintendoeverything who mentioned GCN ports to the 3DS were curtailed when the sales shifted drastically for Switch. Maybe there was some truth to that and Sunshine was reshifted to Switch instead?
Delfino DLC perhaps? I wouldn't be surprised if a big expansion pack comes out for Xmas.
Could be just an innocent summer holiday tweet.
Could be a Mario Sunshine port tease.
Could be a Gamecube Online tease.
Could be Super Mario Odyssey DLC tease.
Could be Super Mario Odyssey 2 tease.
If my memory serves me correctly (and it often doesn't, so correct me if I'm wrong) Super Mario Odyssey was announced in a September Direct and then launched the following October. Could the sequel be about to receive the same treatment?
Of everything on the list innocent summer tweet and SMO2 seem the most likely. That said, we have Link's Awakening remake arriving next month... so Mario Sunshine making a return is not the craziest stretch of possibility!
We will see - September Direct is surely on the 5th or 12th (based on SNES Online surely launching before 1 year anniversary of online) so not long to wait...
The tweet - I get how it may be misinterpreted.
But the fruit at Gamescom? That was curious to say the least.
Just give me Paper Mario 2 on a modern console and we'll call it a day, okay? Or a (highly unlikely) Paper Mario HD Collection of the first two.
Its happening guys! Sunshine 2. Great news!!
I'd even go for a GameCube Online service, at that.
My takeaways:
1. There's an entire room in Luigi's Mansion 3 that's just filled with watermelons. They show it in the gameplay demonstration. So it kinda makes sense why they would have one on set.
2. Same for Link's Awakening. They show Link trade a pineapple to one of the NPC's. I think people are digging too far into these. However...
3. The wording of the tweet is extremely tongue-in-cheek. Nintendo didn't choose those words by accident.
4. As far as I know, that is a completely original render of Mario they used for the tweet. I don't know why Nintendo would make an official mock-up like that if if isn't some kind of concept art. They could have used it for promotional material through the summer, but with summer being almost over, that doesn't seem to be the case.
So I think this tweet is definitely hinting at something new, whether a Sunshine remake or sequel or Odyssey DLC I'm not sure. But I don't think the fruit on display at the Gamescom showcases were necessarily hints, themselves.
Oh, I thought it was the second coming of Mario's nipples.
Could this be the return of super mario sunshine..
The random pieces of fruit aren't a coincidence.
The joke's on all of you, it's secretly a reference to a fruit-based Hotel Mario..
This story will have a half-life of three minutes.
That would be so great! I loved mario sunshine.
I will speak for myself and myself alone. I loved Sunshine. If they re-release on Switch, I'll buy it again.
Now y’all made me miss Iwata-san :’-(
grabsabanana
I Bet its the switch version of super Mario sunshine or the second of it REEEE.
@AnnoyingFrenzy If memory serves hitting Z will bring up a map with the number of blue coins you have per course on it. It's not a checklist though so you don't which specific ones you are missing.
@Crono1973 I remember that but that is still not very helpful. Especially since there are mission-specific blue coins that are unavailable in other missions, so you have to look all over each world at least 7 times to find them all!
It's not a hint, they're just making a playful reference. the Nintendo Twitter has never done a hint before - remember these are just PR guys, not devs.
Super Mario Ultra Sunshine -> crossover with Pokemon, clearly one of the many "unannounced projects" they're working on!
...Maybe!
It's Odyssey DLC.
As for Sunshine itself, I still remember it well and it wasn't overall a terrible or even bad game. There were just a couple of elements and Shines (getting to the toxic leaf stage with Yoshi, diagonal/rotating platform give/stability, Pachinko stage, physics on a few Chucksters, the absolute obscurity of the Blue Coins, also that one absolutely-hidden bonus area beyond the cannon to Pinna Park, etc.) that made it more of an Odd Durian than a Sweet Pineapple.
The rumor of a Mario Sunshine remastered happening is as good as the rumors of Metroid Prime Trilogy coming to Switch or Mother 3 being released in the West.
Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 deserve an HD version before Sunshine
Personally i wouldn't buy a remake of Sunshine, since i already have the original, i can play it whenever i want on the original hardware which is the best way imo.
Peace
Personally having missed 2 entirely, I'd love a Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 remaster. Hell, if Nintendo want to run out of stock and make people go insane, a Sunshine, Galaxy 1 and 2 trilogy would probably sell 50 million (though it will never happen).
I hope everyone’s having a lot of fun with this in the age of the conspiracy theory but please for the love of god chill the eff out if this doesn’t materialize. This is how people become CONVINCED something is happening and then they get all up in arms about it when it doesn’t.
@Yenkman Had forgotten the DS port of Mario 64, had a few extra levels and different characters to play as. Yeah that would be great in HD.
Until I had to sell my Wii U and not being able to finish Mari 3D World, this was the one Mario game I never completed. The camera (the theme park section...UGH!) and falling ALL the way to the bottom during those high wire jumping parts was enough for me to stop.
I did like using fluud. That silver Mario running around was fun too. Or was that me playing as a different kind of Mario? It’s been over ten years since I’ve played it. I enjoyed the puzzles in the sky. I didn’t mind a Mario game taking place somewhere other than the Mushroom Kingdom. I remember that being a huge issue with people, at the time it came out.
@CarpeDiem I never said fruit, I specifically said melon, and it doesn't mean anything that the melon is right next to a Mario figurine.
It's also next to a controller, a cactus/potted plant, and a question mark cube. Do those also count as hints? Well, to be honest, that last one actually could be a clue as well, provided we're assuming to see clues in a Mario statuette, but for now, it seems highly unlikely.
@NEStalgia same goes for you. I'll believe it when they themselves will come out with the official news. So, for now, I'm agreeing with @Tyranexx's logic.
Mind you: I'd certainly like for it to happen, I just don't think it will, and even then, there's more of a chance that it's going to be DLC for Odyssey, or is going to be part of an Odyssey sequel, seeing as the label "Summer Odyssey" was so explicitly used in the tweet.
I think nostalgia is talking a lot here. Sunshine wasn't really that great of a game. It was pretty hard too.
Holy heck this is a lot of comments.
I've been holding off on playing Gamecube Mario Sunshine because, I'm trying to wait for it to come to the Switch - which may never happen. I'm only holding out another year max.
I can't wait for a lot of people to remember what this game was/is (realize that doesn't include everyone):
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2017/09/soapbox_playing_super_mario_sunshine_today_painfully_illustrates_nintendos_3d_evolution
https://games.avclub.com/15-years-later-super-mario-sunshine-is-messier-and-mor-1798264186
http://retrogamingmagazine.com/2016/06/04/5-reasons-super-mario-sunshine-sucks/
I played sunshine to death but that delfino plaza music drove me insane
Super Mario Sunshine is the only main 3D Mario game that doesn't have a remake or sequel in the same style. Nintendo seems to have distanced themselves from the game intentionally.
The fruit actually makes sense. They were playing Luigi's Mansion 3, namely the garden floor. Luigi must smash open watermelons and dodge giant pineapples to progress.
It’s great to hear there’s a lot of sunshine fans.
Sunshine is my favourite Mario platformer, closely followed by Odyssey. They're also the two that are least like platformers and most like adventure games, which probably says more about my gaming preferences than the quality of Mario games.
I've had some inside information, it does refer to a new game, but not Sunshine.
As you have requested, my answer is on its way on a postcard.
Also, melons are not present in Mario Sunshine. The round fruit in that game are Durians. I will eat my shoe if this is a Sunshine tease. There’s already a summer vacation themed kingdom in Odyssey. The more I think about this, the more I think it’s absolute nonsense of the highest order.
Love the tweet with Big Purm. You smokin’ my sh#t ?
@commentlife There were Watermelons on the beach level, you had to role them to the bar
@ReshiramZekrom I mean, there were watermelons in the following game footage of Luigi's Mansion 3, so we shouldn't read into to much yet. I'm hoping so though!
@Gerald fair enough. There’s also giant watermelons that feature in the level they were playing at the exact moment the screenshot was taken. There was watermelons in the Yoshi games. There was watermelons in Mario Party. There was a watermelon planet in Galaxy. There was watermelons in Mario Sports Mix. I would like a Sunshine remake as much as the next guy, I just think this is absolutely Stretch Armstrong.
EDIT: I would actually buy this being a tease for NSO SNES games with Yoshi’s Island being one of the launch titles before I would believe a Sunshine tease.
@commentlife I didn’t say that this meant there will be Sunshine remake
@Jack_Goetz It literally got near-universal raves when it came out. It was called the best game on the Gamecube. Scored in the 90s almost straight across the board. You can see the reviews on Metacritic.
People criticized the camera controls even when it was new and hot, but almost everyone said that despite the camera issues it was an amazingly fun game. It actually has a worse reputation now than it did then, because people are a lot less forgiving of camera problems now that 3D gaming has evolved so far.
But I would bet that an HD remake with a better camera system would once again be called one of the greatest Mario games.
@AG_Awesome
I tried to play it again last year and gave up because I could not get used to the controls. You can't invert the water aiming and for me it's the wrong way round
A new 3D Mario game is obviously going to happen on Switch, but I highly doubt it is Mario Sunshine 2, nor do I think it is this Tweet is a hint at anything.
@ThanosReXXX You're fine for holding your breath, after all this is 100% speculation. But never say never, there's always a chance for anything. Never forget that we live in a universe where we have an X-Com clone of Mario crossing over with the Rabbids.
@Paddle1 Nintendo's mostly distanced themselves from the Gamecube in general. Wind Waker HD, Twilight Princess HD and Luigi's Mansion 3DS are the only 1st party GC releases on newer consoles this decade.
Super Mario Sunshine is the best Mario 3D game after Super Mario 64 but to be honest that tweet wasn't that obvious because well, it's summer... Then I saw all the fruit, that is much more suspicious! Watermelon and pineapple are two of the most frequent fruits in Super Mario Sunshine.
I would love BOTH games to be remastered because NONE has been remastered yet. Super Mario 64 DS was a visual downgrade.
In short, give me classic Mario, please.
This would be awesome...only if I can turn off the annoying people inverted aiming control for F.L.U.D.D., otherwise I’m not playing it.
@JasmineDragon That doesn't mean anything. Odyssey got rave reviews but as time's gone on people now see that it probably wasn't all that special. Friends and other people I spoke to at the time thought Sunshine was overrated. Let's be fair, when has a new mainline Mario game not gotten good reviews from the media, apart from New Super Mario Bros. 2? Hype eventually dies down and the game is judged over time. Like I said, I enjoyed Sunshine but most regard it as the weakest 3D Mario game.
@coleman83 The funny thing is that for me it's also unnatural now and I have the GameCube and this game since 2002.
@NerdyBoutKirby I haven't watched much Luigi's Mansion 3 footage so I didn't know that.
Half-Life 3 confirmed.
You mean, a tease like this?
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In the end, it turned out that costume was one of many that Mario could wear on Super Mario Odyssey. There was Bowser's Kingdom, too!
I would expect a Super Mario 3D World port way before Super Mario Sunshine, so I suspect people are reading too much into this.
That said, I'd certainly love to see it. Especially as a Wii U fan that already has played through Super Mario 3D World, I'd love to revisit Sunshine with a HD remaster (Not that I wouldn't be thrilled to get a 1080p port of Super Mario 3D World on the NS).
Please fix the awful camera controls first
The game wasnt very good. Beautiful, but damn the camera and platforming were awful. Ruined the game. And fludd... Fludd was annoying. It just never clicked. A Mario game should always have spirit. This game didn't have that feel.
Turn all the lights up to ten!
@BlueOcean Yeah. I'd love a Sunshine remake too, though I'm skeptical of how it'd turn out. The original is a beautiful, flawed gem. If they tried to iron out the bugs and update it to be more modern, it'd lose a lot of the elements I love. Imagine if they nerfed the spin jump or changed the art style to look more NSMB-esque--it'd be really disappointing.
I'd love a Sunshine remake. But for the life of me I don't know how you make it work without an analog trigger.
They should make a remaster of Mario Sunshine for switch
ID say it’s definitely worth a visit. The game had a lot of cool moments. I remember the ghostly stingrays in the beach that you shoot at and they’d splinter into smaller rays that just kept coming. I had a lot of fun with this one. Favorite 3d Mario tho? It’s up there I’d put it right there with the galaxy’s but Mario 64 holds the most nostalgia for me. No Mario’s given me that since.
Even though this is not really a teaser, still, no thanks. I love Mario and his games more than anything - I have a whole memorabilia room with thousands of Mario collectables - BUT no, Sunshine was not good. FLUDD and that camera can kiss my...
Sorry, my idea of a fun Mario platform does not involve me CLEANING various surfaces for hours. It also does not include me going back and forth, TEDIOUSLY, trying to find puddles/lakes to refill and then head back. Over and over. Mario platformers should not be so focused on 'shooting'. This isn't Splatoon. Spraying stuff constantly in a Mario 3d platformer....no, Michael Scott No!
Take off your nostalgia goggles and wish for ANY other Mario game that was ever released, notably the Galaxy series, which just so happened to get recently released in China on Nvidia Shield. Hmmmm.....
Well it's only 9AM on the final day of GamesCom, so, anything can happen. I bet they end the conference with Sunshine announcement. Im going with HD Remaster. Or Odyssey DLC.
Can't a plumber eat a watermelon without people making assumptions
I was hoping for a port of Super Mario 3D World this holiday season.
Double pack incoming?!
@NerdyBoutKirby Absolutely. The art style is probably the best thing of Super Mario Sunshine, if they turn it into New Super Mario Bros. aesthetics that would be an unforgivable sin. It just needs higher resolution, control options and improved camera. Some blue coins hints would help, too. LOL
Sunshine rules.
I would love this to be a thing. Played a bit of Mario Sunshine recently and while fun it doesn’t hold up that well. Easily the weakest 3D Mario.
However I’ve been saying for ages it’s a game that would really benefit from a modern remake. Fix the camera, tweak the controls and the level design here and there and it could be special.
@pullmyfinger lol. Nice try child. 😂🤣
@pullmyfinger Please don't attack other users for the comments they have made. If you believe it is a troll comment, report it, but I have read the comments and it is just users expressing their opinions. You like Sunshine, they don't. They probably like stuff you don't like and that's fine too.
@patbacknitro18 True again, but the reveal of that game never had a weird tweet in advance. It was just leaked by rumor mongers, and ultimately forced Nintendo to come out with the news.
On a side note: when I booted up the Switch yesterday evening, there was a Gamescom video in the news section about the new Zelda game, in which they showed several levels, and the pineapple, which was previously also on the table, was still there, so I truly think it was just Nintendo having some fun, or trying to decorate the table in summer spirit.
Either way, if it is true, then we'll find out soon enough. Or maybe they're going to stretch it out until later this year...
@pullmyfinger Woah there, sunshine. Nowhere in any of my comments was I whining, and I clearly stated I'd like to see the game arrive on Switch, but while others are assuming all kinds of things based on one message and a photo, I just don't see this tweet as proof that it will, which is all I was trying to say.
And I certainly wouldn't stoop so low as to use the words that you just did, and subsequently sneakily removed, but your "wonderful" comment was already archived in my inbox.
So, right back at'cha, kid.
@pullmyfinger
No, if it is coming out it will be announced in a Direct, definitely won’t be at Gamescon.
@ThanosReXXX True, but then again Ubisoft tried their hardest to keep that game a 100% secret up until it was revealed. Also if they just wanted to decorate the table for the summer spirit, then why is it just fruit? Why not add some other summer items? Literally anything else but just 1 giant piece of fruit, placed specifically behind the Mario statue?
As I have been saying, this is all speculation. Though besides the Fruit and stuff, there's also the 14 new unannounced Gamestop Switch listings to pull hope from. I have no doubt that we are getting a Nintendo Direct soon. So if we are getting anything Mario Sunshine related it has to be during the direct, purely because of the timing of the tweet.
@patbacknitro18 Several pieces of fruit, actually. A melon AND a pineapple.
But like I said: we'll find out soon enough. And yeah, probably in a Direct, and not as some afterthought on Gamescom.
Fingers crossed, then?
Here's hoping "opposing forces" can remain civil, regardless of the outcome...
@ThanosReXXX Would you really call it opposing forces when we both either win or lose together depending on the outcome? If it doesn't happen, then big shocker we looked into things too deeply. But if it does happen, then we have that to look forward too. It's not like we're arguing over whether or not it would be good if it happened. We just have different opinions on the likeliness of this thing (We both want) happening. (P.S Yes there are multiple fruits. But never at the same time, Only 1 piece of fruit on a blank white table with absolutely no other summer-themed decorations at all. And both fruit place in the same exact spot, specifically behind the Mario Statue. It's hard to play it off like simple summer-themed decorations when those 2 pieces of fruit are the only summer items on the table at all, nothing else summer related. Which if they wanted to decorate the table for the summer, wouldn't it have better to buy actual summer themes table decorations rather than giant pieces of fruit?)
I hope they won't waste any development resources on this turd of a game.
Maybe it's an outfit for Odyssey that will be out by the end of summer.
@Xelha,
Bit harsh fella,it may not be the best 3-D mario game,but it's miles better than most 3-D platforming games.
WOW, there's so much negativity on this game. It is one of my all-time favorites! There's so much creativity. The iconic Delifino Plaza that was so much fun to jump around and explore, the stingrays on the beach, the sandbird, the beautiful Noki Noki Bay - it's all so memorable. Not to mention the brilliant FLUDD-less platforming challenges that were so good they could be made into their own game.
That said, if they're going to re-release / re-make these, they should start with SM64 and work their way up!
where is princess peach? shouldn't she be enjoying the watermelon with Mario? its summer, shouldn't they be at the park or the beach enjoying a Picnic?
It means nothing most prob lol and I hope not a remaster of sunshine it wasn't the best... Would be better if Luigi's mansion 1&2 got a hd port on switch
@CarpeDiem I'd prefer Super Mario Sunshine remake, too late for Super Mario Odyssey DLC but Isle Delfino was removed from the globe in Super Mario Odyssey. Probably, they ditched DLC and started working on Super Mario Odyssey 2.
@patbacknitro18 The opposing forces comment was a bit of a tongue in cheek remark, hence the smiley. Although there are some people in this thread, on both sides, who are quite vocal, some even bordering on extremism. But I didn't mean you and I, just a comment in general, hoping that once the announcement comes, whatever it may be, that one side isn't going to bash the other side with things along the lines of how stupid the others could be to believe that the game was either being made or not.
The biggest issue for me is the shadowy blue coins location but that could be fixed with a checklist. I think that FLUDD is great and adds some gameplay tweaks like hovering and skyrocketing but not inverted controls should be added in options. Even occasional cleaning and squirting enemies is fun.
The camera isn't that bad, it is worse in the Galaxy games because sometimes you can't see where you are going to and die which is very annoying when collecting purple coins. Of course, the camera should be made a bit more intuitive in Sunshine, I remember that it was a problem in the sublevels because some of them are really hard and dealing with the camera at the same time is crazy. When walking on tightropes sometimes it was too difficult to align the camera to jump on the one above or below.
Physics are perfect in this game and Mario controls a bit better than in Super Mario 64 but some sublevels have additional obstacles or very weird gravity (sand bird) with a far camera. Super Mario Sunshine is the Mario 3D game with the most potential and the best candidate for a remake and has a lot of impressive moments. The game is so beautiful and it has some amazing scenes and an unusual contrast like the sun shining through the water and dark beaches with stingrays hiding the light or a mysterious haunted hotel.
@CarpeDiem Super Mario Odyssey was a huge hit and they're making Breath of the Wild sequel too so an Odyssey sequel recycling the engine (like Super Mario Galaxy 2 and Breath of the Wild 2) makes sense. I'm just hoping we're getting a Super Mario Sunshine remake too.
Whilst I do own a copy of the game, it's the only of the entire 3d series I haven't played and completed. So, I'd be interested.
@ThanosReXXX Nah, if it doesn't get announced then people will just forget about this and move onto something else. If it does, then no one will be bashing others for thinking it couldn't happen. Instead, it'll turn into a blood bath of people who love the game, and those who think its the worst Mario game.
@BlueOcean Indeed. I'd appreciate it if the GameCube Controller adapter worked with it as well.
I would love for it to come but doubt it will. The image is just another new image of Mario for summer. Japan had the same image beginning of August. I had the email on the 5th August.
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@CarpeDiem we can only hope. I hope the direct surprises us.
@NerdyBoutKirby I forgot to mention the analogue triggers. The Wii U/Switch Gamecube adapter would be perfect for this game. As an alternative control (without a Gamecube adapter) another button could work combined with the trigger for low and high water pressure but there are situations where gradual pressure is required... It was really stupid that Nintendo didn't include analogue triggers on Switch.
@ReshiramZekrom @frabbit
Supposedly, the Watermelon shows up in the Luigi's Mansion Treehouse event because there's a point in the demo where Luigi gets to suck up a watermelon and toss it back, and also The Pineapple during Link's Awakening could be a reference to the Pineapple Link gets in the big trading cycle throughout the game.
However, the interesting thing is the fruit's proximity to the Mario statue. Everything else on that table changes. Mario does not move and is always next to the fruit. Hmm...
@Dev893 @1UP_MARIO If we hit 2,002 comments (Super Mario Sunshine year) will Nintendo see that they are playing with our hearts and that a remake would be successful?
@GammaPhonic let’s be real though, those purple and yellow chairs were super weird
I did replay Sunshine last month... it didn't feel good to play though. The game is surely dated with the 3D department. I got annoyed while playing it and especially the camera is horrible. I can't adjust the camera... they should put in remake a normal and reverse option to those. It feels weird to me. That's already a big no no
@CarpeDiem or they want to add Sunshine levels for Odyssee as a DLC. That I do see happen
"No matter where your summer odyssey took you, we hope it was filled with sunshine!"
Pineapples and watermelons behind a Mario statue, two of the most usual fruits in Super Mario Sunshine.
Is Odyssey a reference to the past, the last Mario adventure, and Sunshine the next thing? Are the two mentions equal and they're planning Super Mario Odyssey 2 with Sunshine theme? Too late for Super Mario Odyssey paid DLC in my opinion. Or is Nintendo being cheeky and messing with our heads?
boring short themed mario game.
but i understand if you like it when you are in your twenties, it was probably your first encounter with mario:)
i like what they did with mario odyssey, it was packed full of diverse envirements, tons of secrets wich keep you playing for months.
If it gets re-released I hope they will put in a save state feature. It’s annoying having to spend 5 minutes to climb back to the top each time I fall down in Ricco Harbor.
@patbacknitro18 Well, the pro and anti Sunshine battles will definitely happen, so fully agreed on that one, but I very much do believe that there's also going to be lots of I told you so's coming from either the camp that believes these supposed clues, or the ones that don't, unfortunately, obviously depending on which side "wins" the argument and gets proven right...
Sadly enough, certain individuals in this community have already proven that much. Well, to me at least.
@BlueOcean Agreed. I wonder if they'd make a Sunshine amiibo to accompany the game. A translucent Shadow Mario figure would be sweet.
@CarpeDiem That's what I like about Super Mario Sunshine. Mario, Peach and Toadsworth go to Isle Delfino to enjoy their holiday. Of course, something wrong happens. Although they are in a small archipelago, a lot of different light conditions and the different locations make the game not look the same all the time. It breaks the grass, desert, snow, lava cycle in a beautiful way. It's not that I don't like that classic loop but Super Mario Sunshine is cohesive and feels right. It's feasible. Also, each world is huge and has different and unique areas, it's more Banjo-Tooie than Super Mario 64.
I also hope that after The Wind Waker HD and Twilight Princess HD we get Super Mario Sunshine HD.
@NerdyBoutKirby I bet that amiibo would be well received.
The level of Luigi's Mansion 3 they played on the Treehouse thing featured both a pineapple-spitting haunted plant and a giant watermelon, so it might just be because of that and not some connection to Super Mario Sunshine (although I would welcome a Deluxe edition of that game).
Would love this on Switch--along with Galaxy and Paper Mario 1000-year door...
Not looking ‘too deep,’ it’s happening.
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