Thanks for pounding out that lengthy reply, which as I predicted, would offer nothing other than "be positive!" in regards to this game.
There is no evidence whatsoever that this game exists, that it's being worked on, or that the "developer" has been accepted by Nintendo.
People who are questioning the reality of this project aren't being "negative", they are being realistic and looking at the facts.
"None of us know if the game will actually be made or, if it is, how far along it is and until then judging something that isn't there is actually pretty silly."
So is complaining about people who are skeptical about this game's existence, even though all the evidence we have so far points to it being vaporware/a joke.
Would you believe that dragons exist if I told you I saw one in my backyard today, and could provide no visual or physical evidence to back it up?
No?
Then why are you so quick to believe anything this developer says, when he has yet to provide any evidence/proof that this "game" exists? Aside from a meaningless sketch and a shoddy MS Paint quality logo?
You are acting self righteous and looking foolish by essentially complaining that there are many people on here who are skeptical about the existence of a video game that has yet to be seen or proven to be real.
Questioning the validity of this story/game (which is ONLY covered by this website) seems perfectly reasonable given the information (or lack thereof) we currently have about this project.
p.s. before you try to type out a lengthy reply calling me a "jerk", "negative", etc, think for one moment....I have provided several valid reasons WHY the validity of this story should be questioned. Can you provide a single piece of tangible evidence that this game exists, beyond taking this guy's word for it or just being "optimistic"?
I haven't played online games all that much yet and my record is only like 1400 or something, but I have entered lobbies where several guys have ratings of 2000+ and sometimes I have beaten them all, even though I'm supposed to be at a disadvantage because I don't fire hop! On the other hand, I have lost races to guys below my rating because I've messed up or due to getting smacked by a bunch of items, and I don't complain about that either.
Honestly, aside from a very small percentage of "savant" MK8 players who know the tracks and tricks inside and out and who have a higher winning percentage, your average player has basically a 50/50 chance of winning any race they participate in! Stop whining people!
And on the Street Fighter II arcade cabinet it never said anything about trapping a guy in the corner and constantly leg sweeping him, or in the Super Metroid manual it didn't tell you how to wall jump to places you shouldn't normal access, and the Super Mario Bros manuals never told you how to jump on a shell repeatedly to max out on extra lives, and the COD manual didn't tell you how to "camp" and avoid getting killed, etc......
You act as though this is the "be all and end all" of MK8 while ignoring the reality that a lightning bolt or a blue shell up the guy's butt will put an end to his lead pretty quickly.
And do people actually think that in all the thousands of hours put into developing and testing this game, that NOBODY at Nintendo, least of all the kart physics guys, KNEW that this move was possible? And that NOBODY there ever tried doing this move, even though similar "exploits" were found in previous entries??
Ya you are "done", because for some reason you keep using the term "racing game", which lumps Mario Kart in with Forza, Gran Turismo, and any number of other simulation racers, which MK8 is not.
It's in the sub-genre of "kart racer", which although deals with actual racing, also features a strong emphasis on assorted gimmicks and attacks which make it completely different from your standard racing game.
"Going the fastest" may win you a game in a regular racer, but doesn't necessarily guarantee victory in a "kart racer" where there are weapons, hazards and shortcuts littering the tracks.
The fact you tried to break down, to half a second, the amount of time you would still have for a lead after getting hit by a blue shell shows that you are really grasping at straws here. Any minimal lead gained in an online race of MK8 could evaporate in a split second due to countless variables.
Missing one of the boost pads located on any given track could disadvantage the player who missed it. Should those be removed? Hell, someone who is "fire hopping" could miss a couple of these, and be passed by a player who hits all of them! Is that fair??
This isn't even an issue except to those who read "exploit" and then immediately jump to conclusions without actually thinking about how little this actually has/will affect online matches.
That has happened to me several times online already WITHOUT using the fire hopping technique, so that still doesn't prove that it is an infallible method to win races or take a commanding lead. Someone can get a 2-3 second lead in an online race at any time, just due to the nature of the game! And said 2-3 second lead can be taken away in an instant by crashing out or getting hit by an item. It's all lost in the wash.
This is all a bunch of hoopla over absolutely nothing at all.
Can we ban the golden mushroom boost as well please??
One time I fire hopped for the entire race and was in the lead, then on the last lap a guy did used the golden mushroom boost to go off the track and take a shortcut between some green pipes and won the race! Not fair!!!
Explain to me how its going to help when you get hit with a lightning bolt when in the lead, get run over and flattened by someone coming from behind you, then as you get going again someone flies by you carrying 3 green shells and you spin out finishing the race in 5th place?
Please tell me how "fire hopping" has helped you then?
Or are you just basing this on the ideal 1 in 100 MK8 online race where someone gets the lead, and holds it the entire time without getting hit by a single item or makes a driving error?
Because there are any number of variables affecting whether you win or lose an online race. You can be hit by a blue shell, you can fall off the edge of the track, you can get hit by a lightning bolt, a red shell, a green shell, slip on a banana that someone had dropped on a previous lap, get bumped off onto the dirt, etc.
It's a technique that is helpful in shaving seconds off a perfectly driven/controlled solo lap during time trials, but one which has no impact at all on a multiplayer race. The amount of people whining and complaining about this move, while seemingly not actually thinking about it, is astonishing.
And this opinion is coming from someone who has never done this move, and isn't even interested in it enough to learn to!
Hopefully Nintendo will go back and patch Super Metroid as well, since the wall jump can be spammed to reach areas that should normally not be accessible.
THIS MANEUVER IS USELESS IN ONLINE COMPETITIVE PLAY
God, it's like some people just read the headline, then skip ahead and comment.
It's only benefit basically is to shave a couple seconds off your lap time when doing time trials on an empty track. And lets face it, its unlikely any one on here complaining about this move would ever crack the top 50 in terms of best online lap times, so it doesn't affect you at all.
In an online race with other players, it is useless as you are going to be getting shot at with shells and bumping into other players all the time. Doing this move online in a race will not give you any advantage at all.
It seems to only be useful in time trial races, which is fine by me. The people with the best times on that are OCD-types anyway who are perfectionists. If they master this skill I couldn't care less.
Online races are so chaotic and with so many variables (items, bumping into other players) this 'exploit' doesn't seem like it will affect that part of the game, and thats the most important part.
Do what though? Skim some pennies off a two minute video showing a MK8 race? What for?
It's not like posting a song or a movie on YouTube where you can make an actual case that the person is 'stealing' revenue from the copyright owner. The entertainment derived from video games is a result of actually playing them and owning it, not watching a clip of it on the Internet. If anything, these videos encourage people to go out and buy the game, and sometimes the console it is on.
Stupid penny pinching by Nintendo, and it will just be another excuse for people to bag on them.
Just when they seem to be building good will with consumers and fans, they try something stupid like this again. They never seem to get it...
I like it, but I think "Mario Kart" fatigue is starting to set in for me. I've played hundreds of hours of the previous entries (owning all of them except the SNES and GBA versions) but its starting to feel a bit stale for me now, unfortunately. The track design and most of the music is excellent though!
There is a sad irony here that Nintendo is releasing an adaptor that accommodates a 12 year old controller, even though their current console is being sold on the merits that the gamepad is the ultimate controller.
It's still cool I guess. As mentioned above, hopefully GC VC games are on the way, or at least some remakes (Mario Sunshine?) that could benefit from being played with the original controls.
I hope you feel it's propaganda when they criticize Sony and Microsoft games too!
p.s. defending Nintendo while referring to the other guys as 'ponys' and 'xbots' only shows your bias on this matter, so it's not surprising you are upset over digital foundry's findings.
And digital foundry posting the technical breakdowns of video games across all consoles is neither "picky, pretentious or pompous" either, since the results are true too.
"The Wii U's going to be the definitive edition of Watch_Dogs. I won't settle for this sub-par, pseudo-innovative "next-gen" experience on other platforms."
Since they will never do it themselves, I will apologize on behalf of all of those people on here who argued with you the past month swearing up and down that MK8 was 1080p and that not even the lowly PS4 could pull that technical feat off.
I don't care either way honestly, it still looks good, but lot of people now have egg on their face.
Hopefully these NFC items are tied to only a single title (like the Skylander series) and not implimented for other Nintendo franchises like MK, Zelda, etc. I would LOATHE it if Nintendo made certain levels and characters in these games only accessible via purchasing something like this, which I have no interest in.
My lone post on this issue was that the GameCube had many good third party titles. No negativity at all. Yet you go off on a tangent complaining about something that was never even discussed in this thread. I mean seriously, reread your post on here.
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Re: New Japanese Law Bans Child Abuse Images, Yet Anime and Games Still Allowed Suggestive Depictions
As long as this doesn't affect my ability to purchase a pair of used panties from a Tokyo vending machine, I don't care what they do over there.
Re: Exclusive: AE Games Achieves Approved Wii U Developer Status
@TheRealThanos
Thanks for pounding out that lengthy reply, which as I predicted, would offer nothing other than "be positive!" in regards to this game.
There is no evidence whatsoever that this game exists, that it's being worked on, or that the "developer" has been accepted by Nintendo.
People who are questioning the reality of this project aren't being "negative", they are being realistic and looking at the facts.
"None of us know if the game will actually be made or, if it is, how far along it is and until then judging something that isn't there is actually pretty silly."
So is complaining about people who are skeptical about this game's existence, even though all the evidence we have so far points to it being vaporware/a joke.
Re: E3 2014: Devil's Third Confirmed As Wii U Exclusive
@Henmii
I will buy two copies just to spite you.
Re: Exclusive: AE Games Achieves Approved Wii U Developer Status
@TheRealThanos
Would you believe that dragons exist if I told you I saw one in my backyard today, and could provide no visual or physical evidence to back it up?
No?
Then why are you so quick to believe anything this developer says, when he has yet to provide any evidence/proof that this "game" exists? Aside from a meaningless sketch and a shoddy MS Paint quality logo?
You are acting self righteous and looking foolish by essentially complaining that there are many people on here who are skeptical about the existence of a video game that has yet to be seen or proven to be real.
Questioning the validity of this story/game (which is ONLY covered by this website) seems perfectly reasonable given the information (or lack thereof) we currently have about this project.
p.s. before you try to type out a lengthy reply calling me a "jerk", "negative", etc, think for one moment....I have provided several valid reasons WHY the validity of this story should be questioned. Can you provide a single piece of tangible evidence that this game exists, beyond taking this guy's word for it or just being "optimistic"?
Re: Nintendo Spain Secures Win Over R4 Card Retailer
@russellohh
Don't worry, I'm sure nobody will be pirating your incredible educational software
Re: Poll: Should Nintendo Patch The Controversial Fire Hopping Technique In Mario Kart 8?
@Einherjar
You are doing a fantastic job of perpetuating the stereotype that German's are serious people who don't deviate from the rules! Hahaha
I will add you on Wii-U for some MK8 action later,
Re: Poll: Should Nintendo Patch The Controversial Fire Hopping Technique In Mario Kart 8?
@WanderingPB
Exactly.
I haven't played online games all that much yet and my record is only like 1400 or something, but I have entered lobbies where several guys have ratings of 2000+ and sometimes I have beaten them all, even though I'm supposed to be at a disadvantage because I don't fire hop! On the other hand, I have lost races to guys below my rating because I've messed up or due to getting smacked by a bunch of items, and I don't complain about that either.
Honestly, aside from a very small percentage of "savant" MK8 players who know the tracks and tricks inside and out and who have a higher winning percentage, your average player has basically a 50/50 chance of winning any race they participate in! Stop whining people!
Re: Poll: Should Nintendo Patch The Controversial Fire Hopping Technique In Mario Kart 8?
@Einherjar
And on the Street Fighter II arcade cabinet it never said anything about trapping a guy in the corner and constantly leg sweeping him, or in the Super Metroid manual it didn't tell you how to wall jump to places you shouldn't normal access, and the Super Mario Bros manuals never told you how to jump on a shell repeatedly to max out on extra lives, and the COD manual didn't tell you how to "camp" and avoid getting killed, etc......
You act as though this is the "be all and end all" of MK8 while ignoring the reality that a lightning bolt or a blue shell up the guy's butt will put an end to his lead pretty quickly.
Re: Satoru Iwata Won't Attend E3 For Health-Related Reasons
He is probably going to karōshi soon
Re: Poll: Should Nintendo Patch The Controversial Fire Hopping Technique In Mario Kart 8?
And do people actually think that in all the thousands of hours put into developing and testing this game, that NOBODY at Nintendo, least of all the kart physics guys, KNEW that this move was possible? And that NOBODY there ever tried doing this move, even though similar "exploits" were found in previous entries??
This is really getting laughable....
Re: Poll: Should Nintendo Patch The Controversial Fire Hopping Technique In Mario Kart 8?
@heyzeus002
Ya you are "done", because for some reason you keep using the term "racing game", which lumps Mario Kart in with Forza, Gran Turismo, and any number of other simulation racers, which MK8 is not.
It's in the sub-genre of "kart racer", which although deals with actual racing, also features a strong emphasis on assorted gimmicks and attacks which make it completely different from your standard racing game.
"Going the fastest" may win you a game in a regular racer, but doesn't necessarily guarantee victory in a "kart racer" where there are weapons, hazards and shortcuts littering the tracks.
The fact you tried to break down, to half a second, the amount of time you would still have for a lead after getting hit by a blue shell shows that you are really grasping at straws here. Any minimal lead gained in an online race of MK8 could evaporate in a split second due to countless variables.
Missing one of the boost pads located on any given track could disadvantage the player who missed it. Should those be removed? Hell, someone who is "fire hopping" could miss a couple of these, and be passed by a player who hits all of them! Is that fair??
This isn't even an issue except to those who read "exploit" and then immediately jump to conclusions without actually thinking about how little this actually has/will affect online matches.
Re: Poll: Should Nintendo Patch The Controversial Fire Hopping Technique In Mario Kart 8?
@Yorumi
This way of thought is a result of today's current society which downplays personal success and chooses to reward participation instead.
If you are too good at something, it's not "fair" anymore. Being mediocre is now celebrated.
Re: Poll: Should Nintendo Patch The Controversial Fire Hopping Technique In Mario Kart 8?
@Sinister
That has happened to me several times online already WITHOUT using the fire hopping technique, so that still doesn't prove that it is an infallible method to win races or take a commanding lead. Someone can get a 2-3 second lead in an online race at any time, just due to the nature of the game! And said 2-3 second lead can be taken away in an instant by crashing out or getting hit by an item. It's all lost in the wash.
This is all a bunch of hoopla over absolutely nothing at all.
Re: Poll: Should Nintendo Patch The Controversial Fire Hopping Technique In Mario Kart 8?
@FunkyMonkey
Can we ban the golden mushroom boost as well please??
One time I fire hopped for the entire race and was in the lead, then on the last lap a guy did used the golden mushroom boost to go off the track and take a shortcut between some green pipes and won the race! Not fair!!!
Re: Poll: Should Nintendo Patch The Controversial Fire Hopping Technique In Mario Kart 8?
@heyzeus002
Explain to me how its going to help when you get hit with a lightning bolt when in the lead, get run over and flattened by someone coming from behind you, then as you get going again someone flies by you carrying 3 green shells and you spin out finishing the race in 5th place?
Please tell me how "fire hopping" has helped you then?
Or are you just basing this on the ideal 1 in 100 MK8 online race where someone gets the lead, and holds it the entire time without getting hit by a single item or makes a driving error?
Re: Poll: Should Nintendo Patch The Controversial Fire Hopping Technique In Mario Kart 8?
@Sinister
Because there are any number of variables affecting whether you win or lose an online race. You can be hit by a blue shell, you can fall off the edge of the track, you can get hit by a lightning bolt, a red shell, a green shell, slip on a banana that someone had dropped on a previous lap, get bumped off onto the dirt, etc.
It's a technique that is helpful in shaving seconds off a perfectly driven/controlled solo lap during time trials, but one which has no impact at all on a multiplayer race. The amount of people whining and complaining about this move, while seemingly not actually thinking about it, is astonishing.
And this opinion is coming from someone who has never done this move, and isn't even interested in it enough to learn to!
Re: Poll: Should Nintendo Patch The Controversial Fire Hopping Technique In Mario Kart 8?
@BossBattles
Too true.
Hopefully Nintendo will go back and patch Super Metroid as well, since the wall jump can be spammed to reach areas that should normally not be accessible.
Re: Poll: Should Nintendo Patch The Controversial Fire Hopping Technique In Mario Kart 8?
THIS DOES NOT PROVIDE ANY BENEFITS DURING ONLINE COMPETITIVE RACES!!!! CAN YOU PEOPLE NOT THINK?!!!!
Re: Poll: Should Nintendo Patch The Controversial Fire Hopping Technique In Mario Kart 8?
I think everyone here is missing the point...
THIS MANEUVER IS USELESS IN ONLINE COMPETITIVE PLAY
God, it's like some people just read the headline, then skip ahead and comment.
It's only benefit basically is to shave a couple seconds off your lap time when doing time trials on an empty track. And lets face it, its unlikely any one on here complaining about this move would ever crack the top 50 in terms of best online lap times, so it doesn't affect you at all.
In an online race with other players, it is useless as you are going to be getting shot at with shells and bumping into other players all the time. Doing this move online in a race will not give you any advantage at all.
Re: Poll: Should Nintendo Patch The Controversial Fire Hopping Technique In Mario Kart 8?
It seems to only be useful in time trial races, which is fine by me. The people with the best times on that are OCD-types anyway who are perfectionists. If they master this skill I couldn't care less.
Online races are so chaotic and with so many variables (items, bumping into other players) this 'exploit' doesn't seem like it will affect that part of the game, and thats the most important part.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's System Updates Bring The Wii U to Another Level
@Ferkner
Hahaha I haven't seen that Gamepro face in a lonnnng time
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's System Updates Bring The Wii U to Another Level
I like how the blue light flashes on the gamepad now while it sits on the table untouched.
Hopefully that causes the battery to die quicker, so when I turn on the Wii-U using the pro controller my gamepad won't come to life as well.
Re: Nintendo Revenue Claims on Mario Kart 8 YouTube Footage Reportedly Underway
@Donutman
And the big greedy "N" is too dumb to see that everyone else will see it as them picking on Youtubers for nickels and dimes.
Re: Nintendo Revenue Claims on Mario Kart 8 YouTube Footage Reportedly Underway
@outburst
Do what though? Skim some pennies off a two minute video showing a MK8 race? What for?
It's not like posting a song or a movie on YouTube where you can make an actual case that the person is 'stealing' revenue from the copyright owner. The entertainment derived from video games is a result of actually playing them and owning it, not watching a clip of it on the Internet. If anything, these videos encourage people to go out and buy the game, and sometimes the console it is on.
Stupid penny pinching by Nintendo, and it will just be another excuse for people to bag on them.
Just when they seem to be building good will with consumers and fans, they try something stupid like this again. They never seem to get it...
Re: Nintendo Revenue Claims on Mario Kart 8 YouTube Footage Reportedly Underway
Have you heard about Iwata's new car??
Apparently it can stop on a dime, then pick it up!!
Re: Another World: 20th Anniversary Edition Confirmed for Wii U and 3DS
Re: Mortal Kombat X Announced, Platform Details Sketchy
At least we will have Mad Men Football to ease the pain
Re: Mario Kart Month: Nintendo Life's Team Shares Its Early Thoughts on Mario Kart 8
I like it, but I think "Mario Kart" fatigue is starting to set in for me. I've played hundreds of hours of the previous entries (owning all of them except the SNES and GBA versions) but its starting to feel a bit stale for me now, unfortunately. The track design and most of the music is excellent though!
Re: Mario Kart 8 DLC Confirmed for Japan With Free Mercedes Car
Nintendo has partnered with Burger King in North America and this guy will be released as paid DLC in June
Re: Nintendo Announces The GameCube Controller Adapter for Wii U
There is a sad irony here that Nintendo is releasing an adaptor that accommodates a 12 year old controller, even though their current console is being sold on the merits that the gamepad is the ultimate controller.
It's still cool I guess. As mentioned above, hopefully GC VC games are on the way, or at least some remakes (Mario Sunshine?) that could benefit from being played with the original controls.
Re: Video: Shaun White and Shaquille O'Neal Appear in Latest Tomodachi Life Commercial
Hopefully I can marry Shaq
Re: Digital Foundry Pins Down Mario Kart 8's Resolution and Framerate
@kensredemption
I hope you feel it's propaganda when they criticize Sony and Microsoft games too!
p.s. defending Nintendo while referring to the other guys as 'ponys' and 'xbots' only shows your bias on this matter, so it's not surprising you are upset over digital foundry's findings.
Re: Digital Foundry Pins Down Mario Kart 8's Resolution and Framerate
@kensredemption
And digital foundry posting the technical breakdowns of video games across all consoles is neither "picky, pretentious or pompous" either, since the results are true too.
Don't be a hypocrite.
Re: Digital Foundry Pins Down Mario Kart 8's Resolution and Framerate
@kensredemption
"The Wii U's going to be the definitive edition of Watch_Dogs. I won't settle for this sub-par, pseudo-innovative "next-gen" experience on other platforms."
What a picky, pretentious, pompous statement!
Re: Digital Foundry Pins Down Mario Kart 8's Resolution and Framerate
@memoryman3
Since they will never do it themselves, I will apologize on behalf of all of those people on here who argued with you the past month swearing up and down that MK8 was 1080p and that not even the lowly PS4 could pull that technical feat off.
I don't care either way honestly, it still looks good, but lot of people now have egg on their face.
Re: HullBreach Studios and Cthulhi Games Retract Claim to Sadness IP
Hopefully this gets picked up by AE Games
Re: Exclusive: Lost Wii Game, Sadness, To Be Revived as Wii U Exclusive
I bet this gets released before Mad Men Football
Re: Reaction: Mario Kart 8 Accused Of Poor Sales Potential, Ruining Battle Mode And Racism
Ever since I heard you can't marry a same-sex character in this game, I've had no interest in buying it.
Re: Ubisoft Data Places Mario as the Second Highest Selling Franchise Since 2005
I'm actually surprised Mario isn't #1. He's likely appeared in 30+ more games than anything else on this list during this period.
Re: Talking Point: The Nintendo Figurine Platform Could be a Vital Money-Spinner
@Action51
Sorry pal, not interested in plastic dolls, no matter who makes them.
Wrestling is fine though.
Re: Talking Point: The Nintendo Figurine Platform Could be a Vital Money-Spinner
@DestinyMan
Hopefully these NFC items are tied to only a single title (like the Skylander series) and not implimented for other Nintendo franchises like MK, Zelda, etc. I would LOATHE it if Nintendo made certain levels and characters in these games only accessible via purchasing something like this, which I have no interest in.
Re: Talking Point: The Nintendo Figurine Platform Could be a Vital Money-Spinner
@Yorumi
I didn't insult anyone. I just posted a photo that referenced NFC dolls.
You are the only one taking personal offence to it. Lighten up!
Re: Talking Point: The Nintendo Figurine Platform Could be a Vital Money-Spinner
"Would you like to buy some NFC dolls?"
Re: Talking Point: The Nintendo Figurine Platform Could be a Vital Money-Spinner
As an adult, I have no interest or desire to collect fruity Nintendo figurines
Re: Video: This "Upside-Down Test" Mario Kart 8 Commercial is a Bit Awesome
Nice to see a Nintendo ad that doesn't feature 7-10 year old children
Re: Mario Golf: World Tour Hits a Bogey in UK Charts
@Action51
It's a two pronged conspiracy
Re: Mario Golf: World Tour Hits a Bogey in UK Charts
@Ryno
Because you would have so much fun playing it you would never need another game?
Re: Mario Golf: World Tour Hits a Bogey in UK Charts
@GameCube
Very logical thinking. If not for the DLC, this game would have likely sold over a million copies by now! Nintendo sure did learn their lesson!!!
Re: Nintendo Reports Financial Losses As Expected, Along With Modest Wii U Sales Targets
@minotaurgamer
'Gaming is for the masses'
And the masses have spoken with their wallets, and they don't want anything to do with the Wii-U.
Re: Research Firm IDC Anticipates Worldwide Wii U Price Cut in Late 2014 to 2015, Increase in Retail Downloads
@Action51
Who was talking about the PS4?
My lone post on this issue was that the GameCube had many good third party titles. No negativity at all. Yet you go off on a tangent complaining about something that was never even discussed in this thread. I mean seriously, reread your post on here.