I think the problem you experienced as a 5 year old should have resolved itself when you grew up, moved out, then bought a TV that you could do whatever you wanted with.
Aside from Zombie U, where the use of the gamepad actually added tension, all those other games can be played with a standard controller and be enjoyed just as much. Maybe you prefer the added gamepad functions, but they are not a requirement to play the game and a lot of Wii-U owners (and non owners) don't care about them.
Several of the top DS games needed a touch screen to be played, while the same doesn't apply to the Wii-U.
Exactly. It seems like they thought the gamepad would be a great idea, thought of ways it could be used, built it, then realized none of the things they thought of really made the gamepad feel necessary. With the gamepad, Nintendo created a solution to a problem that never existed in the first place. No one between 1985-2012 ever thought to themselves 'I hate pausing the game to view a menu, I would much rather have a giant controller with a screen on it so I could see the menu at all times', yet Nintendo went ahead with doing that.
An "indie" game has like 1/100th of the budget as a major AAA third-party title. They are frothing at the mouth to be on a Nintendo console, and there is less financial risk. The major developers don't need to put their products on Nintendo consoles to make money, and they certainly aren't going to waste their own cash by putting stuff on the system that doesn't sell.
If some kid in a basement with no funds can create emulators that run Nintendo software across all sorts of platforms, how come Nintendo's own employees seem to have so much trouble getting this stuff to work?
So between November-May (6 months) we will only get SM3DW, DKC and MK8?? Is this a joke? Hey Nintendo, I thought 2014 was supposed to be different? I can't imagine all of Yarn Yoshi, Bayonetta 2, Smash Bros, Hyrule Warriors, Zelda-U (some people expect it this year), or Fire Emblem X will be seeing the light of day this year either based on this current release schedule.
How can anyone realistically think Mario Kart 8 will outsell Mario Kart Wii??! "There's no reason it shouldn't"?? How about the fact MKW has sold more units already than there likely ever will be Wii-U consoles sold?? Or even if the Wii-U sold 35 million consoles, it would mean every owner would have to have bought MK8.
"When someone wants to put something in perspective it means to help show how it isn't as extreme as it at first looks"
Yes, which ergo implies that the same thing can happen again. My point was mearly that he keeps digging up examples from the past implying that the Wii-U will be fine because those other consoles turned things around, but he doesn't seem to think thats what he's doing.
I'm bored with this anyway, he is all over the place.
"Point out where I said the past proves what will happen in the future" "Historical perspective does not mean the past dictates the future"
If you aren't trying to imply that past events dictate the future, how come you keep looking at the past and pulling out examples to counter statements people make about the current Wii-U situation? When someone says to you the Wii-U isn't selling well, and then you say "Well the PS3 didn't sell well at first either!" what is the point you are trying to make? What is the "historical perspective" supposed to prove, other than your own belief that the Wii-U will be able to turn things around since the PS3 did?
Look into something called the "Dunning–Kruger effect", as you seem to be overestimating your own intelligence and aren't looking at things as they are. And asking me to apologize to the board? You have some ego issues you need to work out as well.
"but apparently Iwata has said they've been focusing too hard on children and families, and ignoring the gamers that had been loyal to Nintendo for the past 30 years."
The sad thing is, even though the HEAD OF NINTENDO has said that, there will still be people on here who will argue that he's wrong and that Nintendo is just as "mature" as the PS4/Xbox.
"I don't believe I ever said it did but if you want to try to make an actual point be my guest."
What are you talking about??! Most of your posts in this comment section have been you talking about the past, and how that somehow proves that the Wii-U isn't doing badly, or that it will be ok in the future. Here is a small selection of your quotes...
"think a lot of people in this thread need to look at historically how often the most powerful hardware has sold the most units in a console generation"
"There seem to be far too many people that forget what an unbelievably terrible start the ps3 had."
"Again when you look at things historically, people don't pay big money for these things."
"The first few years the ps3 was nearly dead on arrival."
"did you know that historically consoles didn't get 30+ games worth playing in their library for 3 to 4 years?"
"People really need to take a step back and get some historical perspective on things"
So ya, @banacheck was correct, you are trying to look at the past console sales as if that old gaming landscape applies to Nintendo today. Guess what? It doesn't.
The worst part is these guys talking about the past as if it's an indicator of how Nintendo will turn things around, while completely ignoring the fact that in the 1990's-2000's there were no iPhones, iPads, Steambox/PC's (not as many console games moving to PC back then as there is now), not to mention more console makers, to compete with for the gaming dollar. The whole landscape has changed, and Nintendo will never again be at the top of the industry.
Ummmm....no. The PS3 had a huge launch and all the systems were sold out, with some being sold on eBay for upwards of $1500+! It was only in the following months after Christmas that the sales slowed. The PS3 wasn't "DOA" on release at all.
A shining endorsment for going "digital" if I've ever heard one!
"Bought a game for 60€, didn't like it so I deleted it"
I still regret purchasing AC:NL as a digital download on my 3DS, and now force myself to look at the green Animal Crossing leaf on my 3DS homescreen as a constant reminder never to download a retail title again! I could have sold it for $25 in September if it was a physical cart.
I know why they delayed it and it made perfect sense. I side with Ubisoft here, because they need to make the business decisions that make sense for them, not for Nintendo. I was just pointing out to that guy that Ubisoft got a lot of grief from people on here for delaying Rayman originally, so the hate they are getting now is nothing new here.
If its not "dead" to EA, even though they haven't released a game on the Wii-U in 10 months, can you please name me one single EA game that has been announced as coming to the Wii-U in the future? Shouldn't be hard, since they are so tight with Nintendo, right?
"I know why they say this crap- they do it to garner attention from the ACTUAL kids playing THEIR games- the prepubescent ones that have an ever-growing compulsive need to feel like they're mature adults for the games they play.
I'm selling every EA game I own, and I'm never buying another game from them again. I won't stand for this trash talk any longer..."
But....is this reaction not the epitome of "childish"? The whole "I'm taking my ball and going home!" mentality?
Why didn't you counter my statements in regards to Nintendo primarily directing their advertising to children and parents, while their competitors target single adult males? Instead you went on a tangent nitpicking the "mature" game statement and derailed the whole argument.
So lets get back on track, and you can tell me how Nintendo DOESN'T target children/parents with their advertisting.
I just mearly tried to support his argument with my point, but didn't intend to override it or change his wording. Hell, he may not even agree with what I am saying, so if thats the case, forget about what he said and listen to me.
All I stated was PS/Xbox have more "mature" rated games than Nintendo. It's true. Thats all I am saying. If you want to get into some philosophical debate in regards to what constitutes a "mature" game, find a new dance partner. I am just going by what the ratings board considers (and rates) a "mature" game.
"What you're actually saying is nintendo needs more games aimed at kids who are terrified of being thought of as a kid so they can feel mature playing a game they're "not supposed to."
I'm not saying that at all. Again, you are reading to deeply into things and looking for arguments that aren't there. I think maybe your fedora is on a little too tight.
You are trying to be too profound for your own good and looking into something which I never said.
This is the rating for "mature"...
Thats the definition that is in play here. The one used to describe "mature" videogames. I said PS4/Xbox have more "mature" rated games than Nintendo, and thats a fact.
Go off on all the tangents you want, but this is all I am talking about. If you you find some love story in an anime RPG "mature", good for you, but its not what either myself or @Doma was talking about.
When Obama says "XXXXXX country is a great friend to America!" do you think everyone in the government and beneath him believes that, or do you think maybe Obama just says that because its the "nice" thing to say?
Again, actions speak louder than words. The boss of EA says they like Nintendo, but its been like a year since they have released a game on the Wii-U. Keep living in la-la land!
Doma is right, Nintendo skews their games and marketing to children moreso than the other companies. How many first party Nintendo titles are rated "M" (regardless of whether or not children play them, which they aren't supposed to, an "M" rating is designated for games targeted at adults)? Sony and Microsoft's in-house studios develop WAAAYY more M rated games than Nintendo, not to mention all the M rated third-party titles that skip Nintendo consoles.
All the PS4 ads I saw on tv showed adults driving cars, shooting guns, etc. All the Wii-U ads I've seen (which aren't many) have children and parents bouncing around the living room in colorful clothing.
As for advertising, PS4/Xbox have ads on during NFL football games, before movies at theaters, during UFC events, on major network tv stations, etc. Nintendo has ads on Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network.
You tried to be smug and dismiss @Doma, but he was speaking the truth.
It wasn't proven "false". All he did was give the diplomatic answer that any boss in this situation would. The author of the article even called Peter Moore out on it in a tweet, reaffirming that he had a source inside EA who said that.
Anyway, the statement will only be "proven false" when EA starts releasing games on the Wii-U. Until then, it looks like its true.
Every time an 'anonymous source' says something negative about Nintendo, people on here dismiss it as a lie. So since 'anonymous sources' are now saying positive things about Nintendo, they too must be lying.
"How is the belief that the WiiU is aimed at casual players and kids/grandparents well-warranted?"
Does this look like something a 16-30 year old gamer would be interested in, or something that is even aimed at them? It's a joke. It looks like a toy for geeks. That ad only reconfirms peoples belief that Nintendo is for kids.
The PS4 and Xbox sold nearly as many units in 2 months as the Wii-U has in 14 months. Let that sink in...
Those consoles sell on brand name alone, because people know that you will get cutting edge technology and big flashy games. With Nintendo, you get a few great games a year, but overall its still viewed as a "toy" for kids.
The Wii was known for being aimed at casual players and kids/grandparents. That belief (which is well warranted) has carried over to their current console.
The "motion gaming" craze Nintendo created proved to be a fad, with it never again reaching the level of success it enjoyed between 2006-2009. The Wii WAS an anomaly, and this can be seen by just looking at the sales figures for Nintendo's last consoles.
N64 sold the least of any Nintendo home console to that point, then the GameCube sold even less than that, the Wii was lightning in a bottle and sold a ton, and now the Wii-U is on pace to sell even less than either the N64 or GameCube. That absolutely proves that the Wii was the exception. Nintendo home console sales have been on a steep decline since 1996, minus the Wii years.
Not at all. But like Reggie, his goofy appearances have helped create a cult of personality surrounding both of them, which Nintendo fanboys latch on to, making them incapable of separating the 'man' from the 'business'. Now instead of thinking of the person as a figurehead, they now feel as though they are 'friends' with them and thus cannot imagine them ever being fired.
I'm not exactly sure where you were going with that question though...
This is business. This is reality. Of course they can't hire a new boss and instantly increase Wii-U/3DS sales. That would be a childish belief. They can however put someone new at the top, someone with new ideas (releasing VC titles more frequently and in larger numbers? Price changing? Focusing on online gameplay? Etc) who can change the culture of the company and look for new revenue streams.
Nintendo has been stumbling for years now, with all their projected sales numbers being waaaaayyy off the mark. This isn't based on something that's only a recent happening, the Wii/Nintendo brand has been losing steam since 2010 or so.
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Re: Nintendo Still Seeking a Product to Define the GamePad, With Hopes of Sales Driving Third-Party Support
@element187
I think the problem you experienced as a 5 year old should have resolved itself when you grew up, moved out, then bought a TV that you could do whatever you wanted with.
Re: Capcom Reportedly Planning Western Release of Monster Hunter Frontier G
@NavySpheal
Do you get upset when you buy a TV or a cellphone, then realize that you need to pay money for cable or to speak on the phone?
'I already paid for the iPhone!!! I should be able to talk as much as I want for free! Forever!'
Re: Nintendo Still Seeking a Product to Define the GamePad, With Hopes of Sales Driving Third-Party Support
@I-AM-REGGIE
Aside from Zombie U, where the use of the gamepad actually added tension, all those other games can be played with a standard controller and be enjoyed just as much. Maybe you prefer the added gamepad functions, but they are not a requirement to play the game and a lot of Wii-U owners (and non owners) don't care about them.
Several of the top DS games needed a touch screen to be played, while the same doesn't apply to the Wii-U.
Re: '90s Arcade Racer Targeting Mid-2014 Release, With 60fps at 720p
Hopefully there is an online component.
Re: Nintendo Still Seeking a Product to Define the GamePad, With Hopes of Sales Driving Third-Party Support
@Jazzer94
Exactly. It seems like they thought the gamepad would be a great idea, thought of ways it could be used, built it, then realized none of the things they thought of really made the gamepad feel necessary. With the gamepad, Nintendo created a solution to a problem that never existed in the first place. No one between 1985-2012 ever thought to themselves 'I hate pausing the game to view a menu, I would much rather have a giant controller with a screen on it so I could see the menu at all times', yet Nintendo went ahead with doing that.
Re: Nintendo of America Issues Refunds After Warner Bros. Cancels Batman: Arkham Origins Wii U DLC
@vamkar
An "indie" game has like 1/100th of the budget as a major AAA third-party title. They are frothing at the mouth to be on a Nintendo console, and there is less financial risk. The major developers don't need to put their products on Nintendo consoles to make money, and they certainly aren't going to waste their own cash by putting stuff on the system that doesn't sell.
Re: Nintendo Still Working On Bringing Game Boy Advance Titles To 3DS Virtual Console, Says Natsume
If some kid in a basement with no funds can create emulators that run Nintendo software across all sorts of platforms, how come Nintendo's own employees seem to have so much trouble getting this stuff to work?
Re: Super Bowl Player Chilling with Pokémon Before the Big Game
The Broncos need to sign Ritchie Incognito so he can set this guy straight
Re: Mario Kart 8 Drifting In For a May Release
So between November-May (6 months) we will only get SM3DW, DKC and MK8?? Is this a joke? Hey Nintendo, I thought 2014 was supposed to be different? I can't imagine all of Yarn Yoshi, Bayonetta 2, Smash Bros, Hyrule Warriors, Zelda-U (some people expect it this year), or Fire Emblem X will be seeing the light of day this year either based on this current release schedule.
Re: Nintendo's Expanded List of Million Selling Games Includes Some Surprises
@Goginho
How can anyone realistically think Mario Kart 8 will outsell Mario Kart Wii??!
"There's no reason it shouldn't"?? How about the fact MKW has sold more units already than there likely ever will be Wii-U consoles sold?? Or even if the Wii-U sold 35 million consoles, it would mean every owner would have to have bought MK8.
Re: Satoru Iwata Admits The "Wii U Isn't In Good Shape" Ahead of Investor Briefing
@aaronsullivan
"When someone wants to put something in perspective it means to help show how it isn't as extreme as it at first looks"
Yes, which ergo implies that the same thing can happen again. My point was mearly that he keeps digging up examples from the past implying that the Wii-U will be fine because those other consoles turned things around, but he doesn't seem to think thats what he's doing.
I'm bored with this anyway, he is all over the place.
Re: Satoru Iwata Admits The "Wii U Isn't In Good Shape" Ahead of Investor Briefing
@Yorumi
"Point out where I said the past proves what will happen in the future"
"Historical perspective does not mean the past dictates the future"
If you aren't trying to imply that past events dictate the future, how come you keep looking at the past and pulling out examples to counter statements people make about the current Wii-U situation? When someone says to you the Wii-U isn't selling well, and then you say "Well the PS3 didn't sell well at first either!" what is the point you are trying to make? What is the "historical perspective" supposed to prove, other than your own belief that the Wii-U will be able to turn things around since the PS3 did?
Look into something called the "Dunning–Kruger effect", as you seem to be overestimating your own intelligence and aren't looking at things as they are. And asking me to apologize to the board? You have some ego issues you need to work out as well.
Re: Satoru Iwata Admits The "Wii U Isn't In Good Shape" Ahead of Investor Briefing
@Yorumi
I'm just pointing out the wild inconsistencies in your statements, lest anyone here takes your opinions seriously.
Re: Satoru Iwata Admits The "Wii U Isn't In Good Shape" Ahead of Investor Briefing
@Yorumi
"But it's ok i know you love putting words in people's mouths"
They were all your own quotes! Hahaha you are too much!
Re: Satoru Iwata Admits The "Wii U Isn't In Good Shape" Ahead of Investor Briefing
@Peach64
"but apparently Iwata has said they've been focusing too hard on children and families, and ignoring the gamers that had been loyal to Nintendo for the past 30 years."
The sad thing is, even though the HEAD OF NINTENDO has said that, there will still be people on here who will argue that he's wrong and that Nintendo is just as "mature" as the PS4/Xbox.
Re: Satoru Iwata Admits The "Wii U Isn't In Good Shape" Ahead of Investor Briefing
@Yorumi @banacheck
"I don't believe I ever said it did but if you want to try to make an actual point be my guest."
What are you talking about??! Most of your posts in this comment section have been you talking about the past, and how that somehow proves that the Wii-U isn't doing badly, or that it will be ok in the future. Here is a small selection of your quotes...
"think a lot of people in this thread need to look at historically how often the most powerful hardware has sold the most units in a console generation"
"There seem to be far too many people that forget what an unbelievably terrible start the ps3 had."
"Again when you look at things historically, people don't pay big money for these things."
"The first few years the ps3 was nearly dead on arrival."
"did you know that historically consoles didn't get 30+ games worth playing in their library for 3 to 4 years?"
"People really need to take a step back and get some historical perspective on things"
So ya, @banacheck was correct, you are trying to look at the past console sales as if that old gaming landscape applies to Nintendo today. Guess what? It doesn't.
Re: Satoru Iwata Admits The "Wii U Isn't In Good Shape" Ahead of Investor Briefing
@AcesHigh
The worst part is these guys talking about the past as if it's an indicator of how Nintendo will turn things around, while completely ignoring the fact that in the 1990's-2000's there were no iPhones, iPads, Steambox/PC's (not as many console games moving to PC back then as there is now), not to mention more console makers, to compete with for the gaming dollar. The whole landscape has changed, and Nintendo will never again be at the top of the industry.
Re: Satoru Iwata Admits The "Wii U Isn't In Good Shape" Ahead of Investor Briefing
@Yorumi
Ummmm....no. The PS3 had a huge launch and all the systems were sold out, with some being sold on eBay for upwards of $1500+! It was only in the following months after Christmas that the sales slowed. The PS3 wasn't "DOA" on release at all.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's 3DS and Wii U Strategies Face Rather Different Challenges
@vattodev
If Nintendo (or anyone else for that matter) was releasing Wii-U games, there would be more to talk about.
As it stands, we are in a two month dry patch between SM3DW and DKC:TF and there isn't much to discuss.
Re: Iwata And Miyamoto Both Take Pay Cuts In Response To Nintendo's Poor Financial Results
Iwata and Miyamoto discussing the upcoming Yarn Yoshi game
Re: Talking Point: Is There A Future For The Wii U Without The GamePad?
@mostro328
Maybe because they are both selling extremely well and each of them have dozens upon dozens of games coming out this year?
Wii-U on the other hand is losing support and not selling well at all, hence the "bad news" stories.
Re: Talking Point: Is There A Future For The Wii U Without The GamePad?
@bugaham
"Nintendo noticed that after the Gamecube; graphics had reached a point where there wasn't really anything new to be done."
VS
What the hell are you talking about?!!
Re: Kickstarter Research Highlights Low Delivery Rates of Game Projects
The only crowdfunding donation I ever made was $30 towards getting Jake the Snake Roberts shoulder surgery. Money well spent!
Re: Kickstarter Research Highlights Low Delivery Rates of Game Projects
I'm surprised you guys would point this out, since 40% of the articles you post are schilling for Kickstarter games on the Wii-U
Re: Nintendo Is "Wonderful" To Work With, Says BIT.TRIP Studio Gaijin Games
When a studio with more than 10 employees praises Nintendo, please let me know
Re: Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate Confirmed for the West
@Frapp
A shining endorsment for going "digital" if I've ever heard one!
"Bought a game for 60€, didn't like it so I deleted it"
I still regret purchasing AC:NL as a digital download on my 3DS, and now force myself to look at the green Animal Crossing leaf on my 3DS homescreen as a constant reminder never to download a retail title again! I could have sold it for $25 in September if it was a physical cart.
Re: Ubisoft Refuses to Comment on Watch_Dogs Wii U Cancellation Rumours
@gatorboi352
I know why they delayed it and it made perfect sense. I side with Ubisoft here, because they need to make the business decisions that make sense for them, not for Nintendo. I was just pointing out to that guy that Ubisoft got a lot of grief from people on here for delaying Rayman originally, so the hate they are getting now is nothing new here.
Re: Ubisoft Refuses to Comment on Watch_Dogs Wii U Cancellation Rumours
@unrandomsam
Not all games can be basic/cartoony looking platformers and run at 60fps though.
Re: Ubisoft Refuses to Comment on Watch_Dogs Wii U Cancellation Rumours
@SkywardCrowbar
Why would you pay off a game several months in advance? Especially knowing you could walk into any store the day of and pick it up no problem?
That's like paying for a pizza and telling the delivery guy not to bring it to your house until November 26th 2014 at 5:30pm.
Re: Ubisoft Refuses to Comment on Watch_Dogs Wii U Cancellation Rumours
@BinaryFragger
You missed the part when they delayed Rayman for like a year and everyone on here hated them for it
Re: Ubisoft Refuses to Comment on Watch_Dogs Wii U Cancellation Rumours
@sinalefa
Let's start a rumor on Twitter that Nintendo was bought by Disney, and lets see if Nintendo's reaction to that would be just a "no comment"?
If it wasn't cancelled, all they would need to say was "It's still coming to Wii-U". The fact they couldn't even be bothered doing that is telling.
Re: Rumour: Ubisoft Refuses to Comment on Watch_Dogs Wii U Cancellation Rumours
@Dogpigfish
Your next-gen combo is a Wii-U and an Ouya?!
Thats like saying you only watch movies released on Laserdisc and Betamax
Re: Nintendo Was Dead To Us Very Quickly, States EA Source
@SCAR392
Just did!
Re: Nintendo Was Dead To Us Very Quickly, States EA Source
@SCAR392
I'm not the EA CEO either, yet I know about all sorts of games they are releasing for the PS4 and Xbox all the way into 2015. Odd.
Re: Nintendo Was Dead To Us Very Quickly, States EA Source
@SCAR392
If its not "dead" to EA, even though they haven't released a game on the Wii-U in 10 months, can you please name me one single EA game that has been announced as coming to the Wii-U in the future? Shouldn't be hard, since they are so tight with Nintendo, right?
Re: Nintendo Was Dead To Us Very Quickly, States EA Source
@JaxonH
"I know why they say this crap- they do it to garner attention from the ACTUAL kids playing THEIR games- the prepubescent ones that have an ever-growing compulsive need to feel like they're mature adults for the games they play.
I'm selling every EA game I own, and I'm never buying another game from them again. I won't stand for this trash talk any longer..."
But....is this reaction not the epitome of "childish"? The whole "I'm taking my ball and going home!" mentality?
Re: Nintendo Was Dead To Us Very Quickly, States EA Source
@Yorumi
Where? Deflect much?
Why didn't you counter my statements in regards to Nintendo primarily directing their advertising to children and parents, while their competitors target single adult males? Instead you went on a tangent nitpicking the "mature" game statement and derailed the whole argument.
So lets get back on track, and you can tell me how Nintendo DOESN'T target children/parents with their advertisting.
Re: Nintendo Was Dead To Us Very Quickly, States EA Source
@SCAR392
Don't hold your breath waiting for EA to release their next Wii-U game.
Hmmm, on second thought.....
Re: Nintendo Was Dead To Us Very Quickly, States EA Source
@Yorumi
I just mearly tried to support his argument with my point, but didn't intend to override it or change his wording. Hell, he may not even agree with what I am saying, so if thats the case, forget about what he said and listen to me.
All I stated was PS/Xbox have more "mature" rated games than Nintendo. It's true. Thats all I am saying. If you want to get into some philosophical debate in regards to what constitutes a "mature" game, find a new dance partner. I am just going by what the ratings board considers (and rates) a "mature" game.
"What you're actually saying is nintendo needs more games aimed at kids who are terrified of being thought of as a kid so they can feel mature playing a game they're "not supposed to."
I'm not saying that at all. Again, you are reading to deeply into things and looking for arguments that aren't there. I think maybe your fedora is on a little too tight.
Re: Nintendo Was Dead To Us Very Quickly, States EA Source
@SCAR392
You don't need anymore information than this....
http://www.ea.com/wiiu
The last game EA released on the Wii-U was nearly a year ago. Nintendo is dead to them.
Re: Nintendo Was Dead To Us Very Quickly, States EA Source
@Yorumi
You are trying to be too profound for your own good and looking into something which I never said.
This is the rating for "mature"...
Thats the definition that is in play here. The one used to describe "mature" videogames. I said PS4/Xbox have more "mature" rated games than Nintendo, and thats a fact.
Go off on all the tangents you want, but this is all I am talking about. If you you find some love story in an anime RPG "mature", good for you, but its not what either myself or @Doma was talking about.
Re: Nintendo Was Dead To Us Very Quickly, States EA Source
@SCAR392
And one boss does?
When Obama says "XXXXXX country is a great friend to America!" do you think everyone in the government and beneath him believes that, or do you think maybe Obama just says that because its the "nice" thing to say?
Again, actions speak louder than words. The boss of EA says they like Nintendo, but its been like a year since they have released a game on the Wii-U. Keep living in la-la land!
Re: Nintendo Was Dead To Us Very Quickly, States EA Source
@Doma @Yorumi
Doma is right, Nintendo skews their games and marketing to children moreso than the other companies. How many first party Nintendo titles are rated "M" (regardless of whether or not children play them, which they aren't supposed to, an "M" rating is designated for games targeted at adults)? Sony and Microsoft's in-house studios develop WAAAYY more M rated games than Nintendo, not to mention all the M rated third-party titles that skip Nintendo consoles.
All the PS4 ads I saw on tv showed adults driving cars, shooting guns, etc. All the Wii-U ads I've seen (which aren't many) have children and parents bouncing around the living room in colorful clothing.
As for advertising, PS4/Xbox have ads on during NFL football games, before movies at theaters, during UFC events, on major network tv stations, etc. Nintendo has ads on Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network.
You tried to be smug and dismiss @Doma, but he was speaking the truth.
Re: Nintendo Was Dead To Us Very Quickly, States EA Source
@SCAR392
It wasn't proven "false". All he did was give the diplomatic answer that any boss in this situation would. The author of the article even called Peter Moore out on it in a tweet, reaffirming that he had a source inside EA who said that.
Anyway, the statement will only be "proven false" when EA starts releasing games on the Wii-U. Until then, it looks like its true.
Re: Mass Market Price And Mario Kart 8 Will Reverse The Wii U's Fortunes, Say UK Retailers
Every time an 'anonymous source' says something negative about Nintendo, people on here dismiss it as a lie. So since 'anonymous sources' are now saying positive things about Nintendo, they too must be lying.
Re: Talking Point: The Wii U's 'Relevance' Is About Sales, Nintendo's Strategy Has Remained Consistent
@jmax
"How is the belief that the WiiU is aimed at casual players and kids/grandparents well-warranted?"
Does this look like something a 16-30 year old gamer would be interested in, or something that is even aimed at them? It's a joke. It looks like a toy for geeks. That ad only reconfirms peoples belief that Nintendo is for kids.
Re: Talking Point: The Wii U's 'Relevance' Is About Sales, Nintendo's Strategy Has Remained Consistent
@jmax
The PS4 and Xbox sold nearly as many units in 2 months as the Wii-U has in 14 months. Let that sink in...
Those consoles sell on brand name alone, because people know that you will get cutting edge technology and big flashy games. With Nintendo, you get a few great games a year, but overall its still viewed as a "toy" for kids.
Re: Talking Point: The Wii U's 'Relevance' Is About Sales, Nintendo's Strategy Has Remained Consistent
@jmax
The Wii was known for being aimed at casual players and kids/grandparents. That belief (which is well warranted) has carried over to their current console.
The "motion gaming" craze Nintendo created proved to be a fad, with it never again reaching the level of success it enjoyed between 2006-2009. The Wii WAS an anomaly, and this can be seen by just looking at the sales figures for Nintendo's last consoles.
N64 sold the least of any Nintendo home console to that point, then the GameCube sold even less than that, the Wii was lightning in a bottle and sold a ton, and now the Wii-U is on pace to sell even less than either the N64 or GameCube. That absolutely proves that the Wii was the exception. Nintendo home console sales have been on a steep decline since 1996, minus the Wii years.
Re: Nintendo Has "Great Games" But Is Facing A "Structural Problem", According To Industry Analysts
@Dogpigfish
Not at all. But like Reggie, his goofy appearances have helped create a cult of personality surrounding both of them, which Nintendo fanboys latch on to, making them incapable of separating the 'man' from the 'business'. Now instead of thinking of the person as a figurehead, they now feel as though they are 'friends' with them and thus cannot imagine them ever being fired.
I'm not exactly sure where you were going with that question though...
Re: Iwata Accepts Responsibility For Poor Financial Results, Ignores Calls To Resign
@Andrew_Cook
This is business. This is reality. Of course they can't hire a new boss and instantly increase Wii-U/3DS sales. That would be a childish belief.
They can however put someone new at the top, someone with new ideas (releasing VC titles more frequently and in larger numbers? Price changing? Focusing on online gameplay? Etc) who can change the culture of the company and look for new revenue streams.
Nintendo has been stumbling for years now, with all their projected sales numbers being waaaaayyy off the mark. This isn't based on something that's only a recent happening, the Wii/Nintendo brand has been losing steam since 2010 or so.