While money would usually be an issue for most indie devs, it usually isn't once the game gets successful, like Cuphead(Or when you're on the top selling list on Steam for TBoI).
@JayJ I've never said anything about me being good. I'm garbage. I consistently lose is Smash Ultimate by making stupid little mistakes. In Crosstag Battle I had a win rate of 20%, out of 300 games. If you're confusing me with Melee Elitists then quite frankly you're wrong. But I still play, even after defeat and bitter defeat. Because I know that one day I can get good at the game.
Honestly I had no main point going into this. But I'm glad I did. I've seen the other side of the coin. That there's more to fighting games then the competitive scene. I don't get it. But I can respect it.
@JayJ The best example I can give is Dark Souls. Do you come into Dark Souls expecting to win? Unless you're an experienced player, no. Usually you'll expected to lose again and again. But eventually you'll get better. This is advanced by the fact that controls are easy to get the hang of in a couple of minutes.
Fighting Games not so much. Many people spend hours in training mode to get used to the controls and what moves do what. And that's not even counting all the combos!
So if you go on online only to get bodied, then quit. You're no better than your opponent. You might be saying rn, "Well duh he's better than me." What it meant is that many people spend some time in training mode on the day of the games release and then go online to get bodied. It's natural. That's always how it is. Because at one time, everybody is a noob at fighting games.
The fact that they can win is a fruition of their labor. Pouring time to get good at a game. Yes, not everyone is into that, yet your enjoyment in a fighter is going to be limited if you only stick to single player experiences.
Because at the end of the day, it's of to the player, not the game, if they want to get good or not. And it's not like people get good alone. There's TONS of resources for every fighting game for the sole purpose of helping people get good. Getting bodied, and doing nothing but calling the community a group of elitists is useless. Different people have different uses of the word fun, but fighting games have always been competitive. And that's a fact.
Of course if you go online without practice you'll lose. I never knew you can get anything if you only will it. Instead of getting getting good you simply blame others. No one is saying you have to be the best, that'd be unrealistic.
Fighting games are meant to be hard. Of course there are exceptions, like take Fantasy Strike for example. Probably one of the easiest fighters to get into, yet it still retains the depth of a regular 2d fighter.
The whole reason anyone feels bad because it's only you and your opponent. You had no team. There's no leaderboard. Only big letters that say you lose. Many people don't like going online in fighting games because it forces them to accept that it's their fault that they lost, not the opponents.
@IceEarthGuard No, they had either an arcade mode or purely 1v1 like on some KoF cabinets. Online is only a means to bridge the distance gap between the opponents.
Again you do you, but don't be afraid to hop online.
@JayJ The only thing A.I. is meant to achieve is to emulate human players. After all cpus,bots, a.i. whatever, don't make mistakes (On higher difficulties). The whole point of fighting games is to get good. Learning and mabe even practicing if you want to get really good. However there comes a point where you can easily beat the highest level cpu with ease. And although it's a rewarding challenge, it shouldn't be.
Don't think of opponents online as randos that train 24/7 because they're people. And real people make mistakes. Once you practice the technical aspect you can learn some of the mental aspect.
Playing story mode or Arcade Mode is ultimately harmless. Although it doesn't beat going online or hell, in person to beat people. The point isn't winning, that's just competing. It's to better yourself, the ultimate challenge. The greatest satisfaction that can be found out of a fighter is playing against cpus, going online, and getting wiped with a 100 hit true combo. You feel like trash, but it also gives you a burning drive that one day, with hard work and determination, you too can be that good.
At the end of the day my only point is you can enjoy any game however you want to. It's your game and I'm some rando on the internet. However I only question the people that only play single player content. Because they're just not meant to be played alone. They're meant to be experienced with others in both blazing triumph and crippling defeat.
Whatever floats your boat I guess. However I'm still unable to fathom why anyone would get a fighting game if they don't want to play against real people. That sort of defeats the purpose. Why not get a hack and slash, or a spectacle fighter, or a Beat 'em? Or a shudder Warriors Game.
Developers aren't going to put single player content in a game that is meant to be a (usually) 2 player experience. Not every fighting game can have a Subspace Emissary.
1. The whole point of fighting games is to compete against the opponent, whether that be for fun or for casual. Single player modes only emulate that experience.
2. Blame ArcSys for not being able to update the game with a steady stream of content. Crosstag is my most played game on the Switch below Smash Ultimate and even I could tell they really had nothing to offer. You can have more fun right now by downloading MUGEN and getting almost every character from every series, and more.
3. It would be a pretty big slap to my face if I were still in the Crosstag community and instead of ArcSys giving new information about possible updates or patches, released some single player content.
4. ArcSys don't care at this point. It's pretty obvious. They're already working on Granblue Fantasy, heading the Kill la Kill game, making money with Fighterz, and if I remember correctly there is supposed to be both a new BlazBlue and Guilty Gear game this year. That previous sale on steam for both is now starting to make sense.
@NintendOrc I seriously don't get why this is newsworthy. This literally happens anytime there is a stage builder. See Little Big Planet 1-3 for example. Or Minecraft.
Reminder : The first recorded English joke was a penis joke.
Also calm down, Nintendo isn't gonna cut a new mode that took a measure of time and money to develop for just because little Timmy thought it would be funny to upload a stage with a Swastika.
I LOOOOOOVE Nuclear Throne. Literally the best roguelike out there. Don't let the pixel art fool you, this game is top notch. I might triple dip on the Switch. NUCLEAR THRONE ON THE GO!!!
IF YOU LIKED GUNGEON YOU WILL LOVE NUCLEAR THRONE!!!!1 (probably)
2. There's not enough content: What they really mean is that there aren't enough single player offerings. But if you play Smash Bros solo, I think you're looking at the wrong game/genre.
3. Smash Bros is hard: No it's not. Blazblue is hard. Melty Blood is hard. Guilty Gear is Hard. Tekken (debate-ably) is hard. Smash Bros isn't. There are even easier games out there, believe it or not. Like: Rising thunder, Divekick, Fantasy Strike, and others.
While I wouldn't want to defend it , it is a Japanese Shounen magazine from 1986.
Is it sexism? Well, no. The better word would be sexualization. In that case, then yes she's sexualized. (Or maybe fanservice would be the better word, idk tbh.)
Grow up. It's that simple. Ok, no it's not. Truth is anything worthwhile in life takes hard work. The real world is harsh and doesn't care if you live or die. The system is designed for you to learn how to listen to authority, get a job, pay taxes (Because running a country costs alot of dough), buy products you don't need, and then die.
Victimhood is a dangerous ideology as you'll never feel safe. You'll never trust others. And you'll never feel like the good ol' days, when life was simpler. And then nothing ever changes because you never change. It becomes a perpetual, self-fulfilling cycle of loneliness, resentment, and depression. Stop it.
Grow Up. If something sucks, do something else other than complain. Take up a hobby (gaming) or drawing or something. Be productive and take risks. Always ask yourself if you can be better than you were yesterday. You should never be ok with who you are, because everyone can be better.
Go read a book. Like Hitchhiker's Guide to The Galaxy, that's a good one.
@Charlie_Girl Also , I just gotta say it. You are the most toxic (For lack of better words) person on this site. Every single article, EVERY SINGLE ONE, you somehow find a way to turn it into politics, or genders, or if something is sexist. I will defend your right to free speech to death, but with everything in life there is a possibility that something goes wrong.
YOU ARE CONSTANTLY debating others, on sometimes petty things(PIRANHA PLANT"S GENDER? OK.), and then you (sometimes, not always) play the victim. You are literally what's wrong with every comment thread. Honestly, you are helping no one but yourself. Stop before it's too late. Call me a hypocrite, or a bigot, or sexist or whatever you want. I don't care.
But hey, you don't have to listen to me. Like you even would.
@5ony While I don't condone Notch's views, I also don't approve of simply calling people names and then assuming the moral high ground, while simultaneously trying to stop any further discussion. Anything is open for debate, ANYTHING. Even whether you can debate something is up for debate.
We never got anywhere in life by tolerating others opinions(Because those that say they are tolerant are the least tolerant). Stop thinking you're better than everybody because you're not and neither am I.
I Dunoo, regardless of your own personal beliefs (and I got some very controversial ones) I think it makes sense that a company like Microsoft wouldn't want to associate themselves with him.
I'm not hating on Notch ( Or Supporting Him), I remember he was a small influence on my life during my Minecraft days , but I do support free speech and freedom of expression which protects people like us. (Unless you're in a different country of course)
If anything I like it when people can speak exactly what they think, life would be boring without it, i.e. this article wouldn't exist.
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Re: Random: These 3D Concepts Have Us Dreaming Of A Nindie amiibo Line
@theinstruct0r
While money would usually be an issue for most indie devs, it usually isn't once the game gets successful, like Cuphead(Or when you're on the top selling list on Steam for TBoI).
Re: God Of War's Art Director Continues Amazing Collection Of Realistic Smash Ultimate Drawings
Just repeating what everyone else is saying at this point.
As an Artist I respect the talent and effort put into these.
As a person with functioning eyeballs a majority of these are ugly.
Re: This Game Boy Color Watch Is Effortlessly Cool, And Pre-Orders Have Just Gone Live
Just zip-Tie a Switch to your Arm. Play BotW on your wrist.
Now you're playing with portable power.
Re: Project Nimbus: Complete Edition Takes The Mecha Action Fight To Daemon X Machina
@AxeltheBuizel
...10
Re: Detective Pikachu Artist Completes Realistic Pokémon Sword And Shield Starter Line-Up
Tbh I would've been fine with more cartoonish looking CG Pokemon in Detective Pikachu.
Re: PlatinumGames Boss Interested In Seeing How The Studio Would Tackle Battle Royale
Some gameplay for the uninitiated (Basically everyone that isn't a Platinum fan)
https://youtu.be/MkBN1ks6Bl8
Re: PlatinumGames Boss Interested In Seeing How The Studio Would Tackle Battle Royale
@Fake-E-Lee
Sooooooooooooo... Anarchy Reigns?
Re: New Challengers Approach In BlazBlue: Cross Tag Battle This Month, Including Persona's Teddie
@JayJ
I've never said anything about me being good. I'm garbage. I consistently lose is Smash Ultimate by making stupid little mistakes. In Crosstag Battle I had a win rate of 20%, out of 300 games. If you're confusing me with Melee Elitists then quite frankly you're wrong. But I still play, even after defeat and bitter defeat. Because I know that one day I can get good at the game.
Honestly I had no main point going into this. But I'm glad I did. I've seen the other side of the coin. That there's more to fighting games then the competitive scene. I don't get it. But I can respect it.
Re: New Challengers Approach In BlazBlue: Cross Tag Battle This Month, Including Persona's Teddie
@IceEarthGuard
Yeah, no one likes losing. Go figure.
Re: New Challengers Approach In BlazBlue: Cross Tag Battle This Month, Including Persona's Teddie
@JayJ
The best example I can give is Dark Souls. Do you come into Dark Souls expecting to win? Unless you're an experienced player, no. Usually you'll expected to lose again and again. But eventually you'll get better. This is advanced by the fact that controls are easy to get the hang of in a couple of minutes.
Fighting Games not so much. Many people spend hours in training mode to get used to the controls and what moves do what. And that's not even counting all the combos!
So if you go on online only to get bodied, then quit. You're no better than your opponent. You might be saying rn, "Well duh he's better than me." What it meant is that many people spend some time in training mode on the day of the games release and then go online to get bodied. It's natural. That's always how it is. Because at one time, everybody is a noob at fighting games.
The fact that they can win is a fruition of their labor. Pouring time to get good at a game. Yes, not everyone is into that, yet your enjoyment in a fighter is going to be limited if you only stick to single player experiences.
Because at the end of the day, it's of to the player, not the game, if they want to get good or not. And it's not like people get good alone. There's TONS of resources for every fighting game for the sole purpose of helping people get good. Getting bodied, and doing nothing but calling the community a group of elitists is useless. Different people have different uses of the word fun, but fighting games have always been competitive. And that's a fact.
Re: New Challengers Approach In BlazBlue: Cross Tag Battle This Month, Including Persona's Teddie
@IceEarthGuard
Of course if you go online without practice you'll lose. I never knew you can get anything if you only will it. Instead of getting getting good you simply blame others. No one is saying you have to be the best, that'd be unrealistic.
Fighting games are meant to be hard. Of course there are exceptions, like take Fantasy Strike for example. Probably one of the easiest fighters to get into, yet it still retains the depth of a regular 2d fighter.
The whole reason anyone feels bad because it's only you and your opponent. You had no team. There's no leaderboard. Only big letters that say you lose. Many people don't like going online in fighting games because it forces them to accept that it's their fault that they lost, not the opponents.
Re: New Challengers Approach In BlazBlue: Cross Tag Battle This Month, Including Persona's Teddie
@IceEarthGuard
No, they had either an arcade mode or purely 1v1 like on some KoF cabinets. Online is only a means to bridge the distance gap between the opponents.
Again you do you, but don't be afraid to hop online.
Re: New Challengers Approach In BlazBlue: Cross Tag Battle This Month, Including Persona's Teddie
@JayJ
The only thing A.I. is meant to achieve is to emulate human players. After all cpus,bots, a.i. whatever, don't make mistakes (On higher difficulties). The whole point of fighting games is to get good. Learning and mabe even practicing if you want to get really good. However there comes a point where you can easily beat the highest level cpu with ease. And although it's a rewarding challenge, it shouldn't be.
Don't think of opponents online as randos that train 24/7 because they're people. And real people make mistakes. Once you practice the technical aspect you can learn some of the mental aspect.
Playing story mode or Arcade Mode is ultimately harmless. Although it doesn't beat going online or hell, in person to beat people. The point isn't winning, that's just competing. It's to better yourself, the ultimate challenge. The greatest satisfaction that can be found out of a fighter is playing against cpus, going online, and getting wiped with a 100 hit true combo. You feel like trash, but it also gives you a burning drive that one day, with hard work and determination, you too can be that good.
At the end of the day my only point is you can enjoy any game however you want to. It's your game and I'm some rando on the internet. However I only question the people that only play single player content. Because they're just not meant to be played alone. They're meant to be experienced with others in both blazing triumph and crippling defeat.
-Kal
Re: New Challengers Approach In BlazBlue: Cross Tag Battle This Month, Including Persona's Teddie
@Xaessya
That's cool 👍. Never said it wasn't. Or that Single Player content is unnecessary. Although it is contradictory.
Re: New Challengers Approach In BlazBlue: Cross Tag Battle This Month, Including Persona's Teddie
@TheFox
Whatever floats your boat I guess. However I'm still unable to fathom why anyone would get a fighting game if they don't want to play against real people. That sort of defeats the purpose. Why not get a hack and slash, or a spectacle fighter, or a Beat 'em? Or a shudder Warriors Game.
Developers aren't going to put single player content in a game that is meant to be a (usually) 2 player experience. Not every fighting game can have a Subspace Emissary.
And hey, MUGEN is still a thing.
Re: New Challengers Approach In BlazBlue: Cross Tag Battle This Month, Including Persona's Teddie
1. The whole point of fighting games is to compete against the opponent, whether that be for fun or for casual. Single player modes only emulate that experience.
2. Blame ArcSys for not being able to update the game with a steady stream of content. Crosstag is my most played game on the Switch below Smash Ultimate and even I could tell they really had nothing to offer. You can have more fun right now by downloading MUGEN and getting almost every character from every series, and more.
3. It would be a pretty big slap to my face if I were still in the Crosstag community and instead of ArcSys giving new information about possible updates or patches, released some single player content.
4. ArcSys don't care at this point. It's pretty obvious. They're already working on Granblue Fantasy, heading the Kill la Kill game, making money with Fighterz, and if I remember correctly there is supposed to be both a new BlazBlue and Guilty Gear game this year. That previous sale on steam for both is now starting to make sense.
Re: New Challengers Approach In BlazBlue: Cross Tag Battle This Month, Including Persona's Teddie
Why the hell would people play a fighting game for single player content?
Re: New Trailer For Kotodama: The 7 Mysteries Of Fujisawa Reveals The Key Cast
There's guys too?
Now that's what I call equality.
Re: Nintendo Removes Inappropriate Custom Stages From Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
@NintendOrc
I seriously don't get why this is newsworthy. This literally happens anytime there is a stage builder. See Little Big Planet 1-3 for example. Or Minecraft.
Re: Super Smash Bros. Ultimate's Stage Builder Is Already Home To Some Inappropriate Content
Reminder : The first recorded English joke was a penis joke.
Also calm down, Nintendo isn't gonna cut a new mode that took a measure of time and money to develop for just because little Timmy thought it would be funny to upload a stage with a Swastika.
Re: Cytus Alpha Physical Release Due Out In North America Next Month
Would rather have Cytus 2 tbh.
Re: Random: Toad Gets A Little Too Excited In This Official Nintendo Labo Video
Um...What?
Excuse Me. I can't even right now.
Re: "Intense" Side-Scrolling Shoot 'Em Up Black Paradox Fires Onto Switch In May
Looks neat.
I got my eye on you.
Re: Feature: 10 Games We’d Like To See Come To Labo VR
I love my Switch, I really do.
I love VR, that too is true.
But Labo VR, that is poo.
What I'm trying to say is that only a select handful of games will come to Labo VR. Unless Nintendo makes a stronger Switch...
woo.
Re: Review: Nuclear Throne - Fans Of Enter The Gungeon Should Check This One Out
Have you played the game jam?
Cause... Here you go.
https://vlambeer.itch.io/wasteland-kings
Re: Review: Nuclear Throne - Fans Of Enter The Gungeon Should Check This One Out
@aznable
Nuclear Throne was released in 2015. Although it was in early access since 2013.
It started the roguelike boom alongside games like FTL, TBOI, and Spelunky.
Re: Review: Nuclear Throne - Fans Of Enter The Gungeon Should Check This One Out
Also the music has perfect ambiance, just not the download-to-your-phone type.
Except the Y.V. Rap.
https://youtu.be/_jl3iBbkwFM
Re: Review: Nuclear Throne - Fans Of Enter The Gungeon Should Check This One Out
I'ma just say this rn.
I LOOOOOOVE Nuclear Throne. Literally the best roguelike out there.
Don't let the pixel art fool you, this game is top notch. I might triple dip on the Switch. NUCLEAR THRONE ON THE GO!!!
IF YOU LIKED GUNGEON YOU WILL LOVE NUCLEAR THRONE!!!!1
(probably)
Re: Video: See Brawlhalla's Hellboy Characters In Action, Available From Tomorrow
Cool but Brawlhalla isn't that fun.
I'd rather play Smash. Or Rivals of Aether.
Or hell, Indie Pogo.
Re: Senran Kagura: Peach Ball Won't Be Censored Here In The West
Idk.
Another point for artistic expression. I guess...
Re: Enter The Gungeon Receiving A Retail Release In North America On 25th June
@KoekiieWoekiie
What's a Europe? Is that a food?
I'm hungry for some... Hungary.
Re: Pinball-Themed Senran Kagura: Peach Ball Gets Western Switch Release This Summer
@PBandSmelly
Don't shoot the messenger.
Although I do think these types of games are useless considering... there's better stuff out there.
Re: Soapbox: I Don't 'Get' Smash Bros. And I Just Don't Know Why
Most of these comments boil down to.
1. It didn't click: I can respect that.
2. There's not enough content: What they really mean is that there aren't enough single player offerings. But if you play Smash Bros solo, I think you're looking at the wrong game/genre.
3. Smash Bros is hard: No it's not. Blazblue is hard. Melty Blood is hard. Guilty Gear is Hard. Tekken (debate-ably) is hard. Smash Bros isn't. There are even easier games out there, believe it or not.
Like: Rising thunder, Divekick, Fantasy Strike, and others.
Re: Soapbox: I Don't 'Get' Smash Bros. And I Just Don't Know Why
So this is the same group of people who didn't like last years E3.
It's like that SpongeBob episode about Squidward , but replace Krabby Pattys with Smash Bros.
You poor, poor creatures. /s
Re: Nintendo Is The Ninth Most Reputable Major Company In The US, According To Study
@Franz
When I had Netflix they would send me a disc in the mail to install it on my Wii.
Re: Nintendo Is The Ninth Most Reputable Major Company In The US, According To Study
@Palom
We are #6.
Re: Nintendo Download: 4th April (North America)
If anyone plays Overwhelm, tell me how it is.
Re: Random: Artwork In Retro Japanese Magazine Depicts Link As A Female
@Moroboshi876
While I wouldn't want to defend it , it is a Japanese Shounen magazine from 1986.
Is it sexism? Well, no. The better word would be sexualization.
In that case, then yes she's sexualized. (Or maybe fanservice would be the better word, idk tbh.)
Re: Random: Artwork In Retro Japanese Magazine Depicts Link As A Female
On an unrelated note I'm surprised this comment section hasn't plunged into chaos right about now.
Re: Random: Artwork In Retro Japanese Magazine Depicts Link As A Female
@Lady_rosalina
Mario Nipples
I bet you feel stupid now huh?
Re: Minecraft Update Removes References Of Its Creator From The Game
@Charlie_Girl
vous aussi
Re: Minecraft Update Removes References Of Its Creator From The Game
One last thing and then I'm done for the day:
Grow up.
It's that simple. Ok, no it's not. Truth is anything worthwhile in life takes hard work. The real world is harsh and doesn't care if you live or die. The system is designed for you to learn how to listen to authority, get a job, pay taxes (Because running a country costs alot of dough), buy products you don't need, and then die.
Victimhood is a dangerous ideology as you'll never feel safe. You'll never trust others. And you'll never feel like the good ol' days, when life was simpler. And then nothing ever changes because you never change. It becomes a perpetual, self-fulfilling cycle of loneliness, resentment, and depression. Stop it.
Grow Up.
If something sucks, do something else other than complain. Take up a hobby (gaming) or drawing or something. Be productive and take risks. Always ask yourself if you can be better than you were yesterday. You should never be ok with who you are, because everyone can be better.
Go read a book. Like Hitchhiker's Guide to The Galaxy, that's a good one.
Peace.
Re: Minecraft Update Removes References Of Its Creator From The Game
@Charlie_Girl
Sorry, that's not how the real world works.
Re: Minecraft Update Removes References Of Its Creator From The Game
@Charlie_Girl
Also , I just gotta say it. You are the most toxic (For lack of better words) person on this site. Every single article, EVERY SINGLE ONE, you somehow find a way to turn it into politics, or genders, or if something is sexist. I will defend your right to free speech to death, but with everything in life there is a possibility that something goes wrong.
YOU ARE CONSTANTLY debating others, on sometimes petty things(PIRANHA PLANT"S GENDER? OK.), and then you (sometimes, not always) play the victim. You are literally what's wrong with every comment thread. Honestly, you are helping no one but yourself. Stop before it's too late. Call me a hypocrite, or a bigot, or sexist or whatever you want. I don't care.
But hey, you don't have to listen to me. Like you even would.
Re: Minecraft Update Removes References Of Its Creator From The Game
@5ony
While I don't condone Notch's views, I also don't approve of simply calling people names and then assuming the moral high ground, while simultaneously trying to stop any further discussion. Anything is open for debate, ANYTHING. Even whether you can debate something is up for debate.
We never got anywhere in life by tolerating others opinions(Because those that say they are tolerant are the least tolerant). Stop thinking you're better than everybody because you're not and neither am I.
Re: Minecraft Update Removes References Of Its Creator From The Game
@PaulDuran
Which one? Dezzy, Charlie-Girl, Notch, or Soldier 76?
(hahaaaa gaay joke funeeeee)
Re: Minecraft Update Removes References Of Its Creator From The Game
@Charlie_Girl
"I'm kind of an expert on the subject, due to it being my life experience and all?."
Argument from authority is a logical fallacy.
"...but this is also supported by the World Health Organization and the American Psychiatric Association."
That's better, as long as it's true.
Re: Minecraft Update Removes References Of Its Creator From The Game
@Dezzy
I Dunoo, regardless of your own personal beliefs (and I got some very controversial ones) I think it makes sense that a company like Microsoft wouldn't want to associate themselves with him.
I'm not hating on Notch ( Or Supporting Him), I remember he was a small influence on my life during my Minecraft days , but I do support free speech and freedom of expression which protects people like us. (Unless you're in a different country of course)
If anything I like it when people can speak exactly what they think, life would be boring without it, i.e. this article wouldn't exist.
Re: Minecraft Update Removes References Of Its Creator From The Game
Damn I think I just lost some brain cells reading these comments
Re: Rumour: New Persona 5 Trailer Connected To Recent Smash Bros. Ultimate Datamine
@jobvd
Cuphead