Good call lordbowser. 800 is just the right price for this game, I think. I was worried it would be 1000, but those 200 points really makes a difference when it comes to feeling like you're getting a good deal. I'll probably pick this up as long as the review isn't terrible.
The comparison with Lumines has me intrigued, since I can't find a copy anywhere. Slightly worrying is the comment about adding online features in future versions. If they're going to update the game, I wonder if we will have the option of downloading updates for the WiiWare version (and how much they will cost...).
This game does look really good. I'm a sucker for pinball games (loved the Virtual Boy pinball game!), so I don't know why I haven't sprung for any of the ones currently on the VC...
France may have to wait an extra week for their 250th game, as next week may be a "WiiWare only" week (assuming they revert back to their non-Hanabi antics). It would be great if they get Super Mario Kart or Majora's Mask, but that may be asking too much! We'll see, I suppose!
Looks like it has potential. Good visuals except for the weird characters. If the motion controls are tight, it could be a good purchase. Look forward to seeing some reviews!
France is definitely getting the shaft on those exclusive games. Most of the games that France has that NA doesn't have yet are Commodore 64 games (we don't have them because we don't have the system) and a few games that are already slated to come to NA anyway. On the other hand, with a lot of the games that NA has that France doesn't, there's really no excuse for not having them.
I suspect that France's alternating VC/WW weeks with large numbers of VC games on their weeks might help them make up the missing VC games very gradually, though.
Also on the bright side, the latest coming soon lists may be small, but they're populated with good games.
SuperMario, I'm a smart enough poster that I don't care about looking like one. I wonder what makes you need to step in and make accusatory, inflammatory comments that have nothing to do with the debate...?
That said, I do enjoy reading this site and VC-R enough that I take a personal interest in the site itself looking like a "smart" site, and simple errors like this one are pretty hard to tolerate. Canadians do indeed refer to themselves as living in the American "region" (note the use of the word region, as used in the original version of this article), especially in the context of video games where media are commonly divided into North America, PAL, and Japan.
@Dazza - the fact that I am a Canadian has little to do with the fundamental point, but if you just want to write it off like that instead of thinking about it, that's fine. Your point about different regional terminology (football is a good example!) is well taken, so I'm going to apologize for being so vehement in calling it an error and settle on the term inaccuracy. When regional linguistic differences are involved, especially on a site with international readership like this one, I think it's best to be as clear and explicit as possible. You can see where "American region" could be confusing to different audiences while "North American region" or "the US" would be less so.
@Dazza - North America is in America. Not only that, but when used to denote a region, "America" generally refers to North America in this context (except probably in South America, but I don't see anyone reporting on their specific gaming culture all that often). "America" can be used as a colloquial term for The United States of America, but The United States of America is not a region, it's a country. And US/USA is shorter than "America" as an abbreviated referent for that country anyway. I win either way.
It's fine to be stubborn, but don't be stubborn and protective about your mistakes, especially when you're in a business that involves dealing with the public.
This isn't the top 20 for the American region. This is the top 20 for the USA country. The chart for the rest of the American region is different (as reflected in the Canadian chart posted above). Please edit your article for accuracy.
I sure hope no one was seriously expecting SMRPG, since it wasn't even on the radar for North America. The good thing is that we got a significantly better RPG instead!
I am SO glad this game got a better rating than Strong Bad. Pretty awesome! I was afraid people would sell this one short because it's a fish tank sim, but it really does seem like good value for the money.
This has nothing to do with Nazis or with Nintendo bullying anyone. They simply don't want a big company using the VC to promote games on other systems.
Capcom "can't" say why because it would make them look like idiots for not throwing Nintendo a bone on the remake.
Everyone who's whining about not getting the games they want or losing hope about ever getting the games should remember that a lot of heavy hitting games have come up on the radar for release within the next half-year or so. Mega Man 1 2 and 9, Samurai Shodown 2, SMRPG, Earthbound, Phantasy Star 4, Shining Force 2, and who knows what on WiiWare. There's still tons of time for us to get great games at a very acceptable pace. Don't Panic.
Half-decent little bit of investigation in this article, but in the last paragraph you misused the word "ineptitude". This certainly wasn't a bumbling mistake on Nintendo's part. They didn't botch the release dates with these guys by accident.
I know we're all upset about this unfortunate switcheroo, but if we're trying to be "serious" video games "journalists" it's no excuse to let our emotions have a negative impact on our writing.
I liked this game as much as the next Genesis owner, but there's so little to differentiate it in practical terms from SFIIT on the SNES that it's definitely not worth getting for anyone who already has another version. Someone outlined the differences above, so if you don't have a version of SFII yet, you can take those into consideration when deciding.
Yeah, not so much like Zelda. Great music though. This is a pretty decent little month for Japan. I expect we'll get at least one Mega Man game in addition to Ys in August, so it should be a treat for us as well.
Ugly! I want my retro classic controllers to look exactly like the originals, like that official Super Famicom CC from a while ago. Too bad they cost a fortune.
@Mike - As I said, just because something is old doesn't mean it's a classic. I'll now add that just because some people like it and some people don't doesn't mean something is a classic. Classic games are generally successful games that have had an impact on the industry/history of gaming. Barely anyone even knew about DK3 back in its day. Sure, it was a sequel to a classic game (DK), but that doesn't make it classic. Super Mario Sunshine is not classic, for example. Dig Dug is a classic because it was yet another pioneer of inventive arcade gameplay (kind of like how Qbert is a classic even though you don't see it around much these days).
Slangman is right. It's a DK game, but it's not good. Also, Mike, it's not really a classic, either. It's a pretty bad tack-on to the series that most people don't know about. Still, it's one of those NES-Arcade style games that some people really enjoy.
I'm not complaining - I actually like weeks like this - I'm just waiting for the hilarious SMRPG Mega Man etc. comments. Oh ho ho ho ho!
Why are people pooping on Nintendo over this? Nintendo didn't censor the game. Nintendo informed them of the angry soccer mom lobby. They probably gave them a choice between changing the "theme" of the game or having it changed for them, but this hardly amounts to censorship, especially "heavy" censorship.
This game was only going to sell about 4 copies worldwide anyway. Now if they try to use this name-change as an excuse for poor sales, they're delusional idiots. And Darren, I sure hope you were being facetious when you said the name change to Pong Toss would make any difference whatsoever.
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Re: USA WiiWare Update: Groovin' Blocks
Good call lordbowser. 800 is just the right price for this game, I think. I was worried it would be 1000, but those 200 points really makes a difference when it comes to feeling like you're getting a good deal. I'll probably pick this up as long as the review isn't terrible.
Re: RiverMan Media Interview - MadStone
I like how his answer to the question about the abundance of puzzlers is that there isn't an abundance of puzzlers. Hahaha!
Re: Empty Clip Studios Interview - Groovin' Blocks
The comparison with Lumines has me intrigued, since I can't find a copy anywhere. Slightly worrying is the comment about adding online features in future versions. If they're going to update the game, I wonder if we will have the option of downloading updates for the WiiWare version (and how much they will cost...).
Re: Space Invaders
Space Invaders Extreme for $20, or used for $15, is a better bargain than $8 for an old SNES port.
Re: Get Your Groove On With Groovin' Blocks
The success of this game will depend on how they pull off the music element. It's hard to tell from screenshots!
I wonder if this will also be released in Canada on Monday.
Re: First Impressions: Alien Crush Returns
This game does look really good. I'm a sucker for pinball games (loved the Virtual Boy pinball game!), so I don't know why I haven't sprung for any of the ones currently on the VC...
Re: Studio Walljump Announces Liight For WiiWare
Looks like an interesting puzzler. Could be worth checking out for the right price!
Re: EU VC Releases: DoReMi Fantasy and Ys Book I & II
France may have to wait an extra week for their 250th game, as next week may be a "WiiWare only" week (assuming they revert back to their non-Hanabi antics). It would be great if they get Super Mario Kart or Majora's Mask, but that may be asking too much! We'll see, I suppose!
Re: Fun! Fun! Minigolf - Screenshots And Info
Looks like it has potential. Good visuals except for the weird characters. If the motion controls are tight, it could be a good purchase. Look forward to seeing some reviews!
Re: Secret of Mana
Secret of Mana is my favourite SNES game.
Re: USA VC Releases: Super Mario RPG and Clu Clu Land
My plan worked this time!
Re: TurboGrafx-16 Releases - September
Cho is good news!
Re: Drake's Ratings Roundup - August 2008
France is definitely getting the shaft on those exclusive games. Most of the games that France has that NA doesn't have yet are Commodore 64 games (we don't have them because we don't have the system) and a few games that are already slated to come to NA anyway. On the other hand, with a lot of the games that NA has that France doesn't, there's really no excuse for not having them.
I suspect that France's alternating VC/WW weeks with large numbers of VC games on their weeks might help them make up the missing VC games very gradually, though.
Also on the bright side, the latest coming soon lists may be small, but they're populated with good games.
Re: Japanese Virtual Console list - September 2008
Secret of Mana is awesome.
Re: Japanese Virtual Console list - September 2008
Mana is my favourite SNES game. I will gift multiple copes!
Re: Top 20 WiiWare Games in USA (27th August)
I'm just glad to see Toki Tori still barely holding on to the bottom of the Canadian list. Hopefully he sticks around for another week or so.
@x.SuperMario.x - Thanks.
Re: Top 20 WiiWare Games in USA (27th August)
SuperMario, I'm a smart enough poster that I don't care about looking like one. I wonder what makes you need to step in and make accusatory, inflammatory comments that have nothing to do with the debate...?
That said, I do enjoy reading this site and VC-R enough that I take a personal interest in the site itself looking like a "smart" site, and simple errors like this one are pretty hard to tolerate. Canadians do indeed refer to themselves as living in the American "region" (note the use of the word region, as used in the original version of this article), especially in the context of video games where media are commonly divided into North America, PAL, and Japan.
@Dazza - the fact that I am a Canadian has little to do with the fundamental point, but if you just want to write it off like that instead of thinking about it, that's fine. Your point about different regional terminology (football is a good example!) is well taken, so I'm going to apologize for being so vehement in calling it an error and settle on the term inaccuracy. When regional linguistic differences are involved, especially on a site with international readership like this one, I think it's best to be as clear and explicit as possible. You can see where "American region" could be confusing to different audiences while "North American region" or "the US" would be less so.
Re: Top 20 WiiWare Games in USA (27th August)
@Dazza - North America is in America. Not only that, but when used to denote a region, "America" generally refers to North America in this context (except probably in South America, but I don't see anyone reporting on their specific gaming culture all that often). "America" can be used as a colloquial term for The United States of America, but The United States of America is not a region, it's a country. And US/USA is shorter than "America" as an abbreviated referent for that country anyway. I win either way.
It's fine to be stubborn, but don't be stubborn and protective about your mistakes, especially when you're in a business that involves dealing with the public.
Re: Top 20 WiiWare Games in America (27th August)
This isn't the top 20 for the American region. This is the top 20 for the USA country. The chart for the rest of the American region is different (as reflected in the Canadian chart posted above). Please edit your article for accuracy.
Re: USA VC Releases: Ys Book I & II and Samurai Shodown
I sure hope no one was seriously expecting SMRPG, since it wasn't even on the radar for North America. The good thing is that we got a significantly better RPG instead!
Re: Review: Midnight Pool (WiiWare)
Is the dark-haired chick with the huge mouth (from the title image) in the game?
Re: Review: My Aquarium (WiiWare)
I am SO glad this game got a better rating than Strong Bad. Pretty awesome! I was afraid people would sell this one short because it's a fish tank sim, but it really does seem like good value for the money.
Re: Tetris Party - New Game Play Video!
Instant get. Would pay tons. The End.
Re: Bionic Commando Not Approved For Virtual Console
This has nothing to do with Nazis or with Nintendo bullying anyone. They simply don't want a big company using the VC to promote games on other systems.
Capcom "can't" say why because it would make them look like idiots for not throwing Nintendo a bone on the remake.
Re: USA VC Releases: Star Parodier and Break In
Everyone who's whining about not getting the games they want or losing hope about ever getting the games should remember that a lot of heavy hitting games have come up on the radar for release within the next half-year or so. Mega Man 1 2 and 9, Samurai Shodown 2, SMRPG, Earthbound, Phantasy Star 4, Shining Force 2, and who knows what on WiiWare. There's still tons of time for us to get great games at a very acceptable pace. Don't Panic.
Re: USA VC Releases: Star Parodier and Break In
Well this inspires hope at least.
Re: Publishers Remain Tight-Lipped On Black Monday Debacle
Half-decent little bit of investigation in this article, but in the last paragraph you misused the word "ineptitude". This certainly wasn't a bumbling mistake on Nintendo's part. They didn't botch the release dates with these guys by accident.
I know we're all upset about this unfortunate switcheroo, but if we're trying to be "serious" video games "journalists" it's no excuse to let our emotions have a negative impact on our writing.
Re: Nintendo Responds To US Release Date Queries
SNK won't abandon the VC. They need to make money! They'll just stop scooping Nintendo with early game announcements.
Re: USA WiiWare Update: Wild West Guns
This game would be worth 800 points if it had scoreboards. As it is, it's a pass.
Re: USA VC Update: Sonic (Master System) and Splatterhouse 2
Hahaha, hilarious.
Oh well, Sonic is good, and well worth 500 points.
Re: Top 10 Racing Games We Want To Come To The Virtual Console
Super Mario Kart is far better than Mario Kart 64 and Mario Kart Wii.
Re: Ys Book I & II
Hilarious.
Re: Street Fighter II: Special Champion Edition
I liked this game as much as the next Genesis owner, but there's so little to differentiate it in practical terms from SFIIT on the SNES that it's definitely not worth getting for anyone who already has another version. Someone outlined the differences above, so if you don't have a version of SFII yet, you can take those into consideration when deciding.
Re: Japanese Virtual Console list - August 2008
Yeah, not so much like Zelda. Great music though. This is a pretty decent little month for Japan. I expect we'll get at least one Mega Man game in addition to Ys in August, so it should be a treat for us as well.
Re: Top 10 Shmups We Want To Come To The Virtual Console
Do 1942 and 1943 count as Sh'mUps? They may not be the best of the genre, but I still heart them.
Re: Ys Book I & II
@ Objection_Blaster — Yep.
Re: Top 20 WiiWare Games in America (23rd July)
Toki Tori! Nooooooo! I can't wait to see Mega Man pwn this list.
Re: Datel Release Retro Controllers for Virtual Console
Ugly! I want my retro classic controllers to look exactly like the originals, like that official Super Famicom CC from a while ago. Too bad they cost a fortune.
Re: US VC Releases - 14th July - Donkey Kong 3
@Mike — I didn't say Castlevania and Mega Man 2 aren't classics. They are. Just like Dig Dug and Donkey Kong 1.
As for the rest of this off-topic E3 whining: you guys are dumb.
Re: US VC Releases - 14th July - Donkey Kong 3
@Mike - As I said, just because something is old doesn't mean it's a classic. I'll now add that just because some people like it and some people don't doesn't mean something is a classic. Classic games are generally successful games that have had an impact on the industry/history of gaming. Barely anyone even knew about DK3 back in its day. Sure, it was a sequel to a classic game (DK), but that doesn't make it classic. Super Mario Sunshine is not classic, for example. Dig Dug is a classic because it was yet another pioneer of inventive arcade gameplay (kind of like how Qbert is a classic even though you don't see it around much these days).
Re: US VC Releases - 14th July - Donkey Kong 3
Donkey Kong 3 is not a classic. People need to stop saying that. Just because a game is old doesn't mean it's a classic.
Re: US VC Releases - 14th July - Donkey Kong 3
Slangman is right. It's a DK game, but it's not good. Also, Mike, it's not really a classic, either. It's a pretty bad tack-on to the series that most people don't know about. Still, it's one of those NES-Arcade style games that some people really enjoy.
I'm not complaining - I actually like weeks like this - I'm just waiting for the hilarious SMRPG Mega Man etc. comments. Oh ho ho ho ho!
Re: US VC Releases - 14th July - Donkey Kong 3
Let the idiotic whining... commence!
Re: EU VC Releases - 11th July - Neo Geo Duo
I love every game that is released. ...Except SMRPG is mediocre compared to other SNES RPGs.
Re: EU VC Releases - 11th July - Neo Geo Duo
Everyone cried in their soup when a month went by with no Neo-Geo games. Now look at them!
Re: See Mega Man 9 In Action
This will be an insta-download for me. Hraey!
Re: US VC Release - 7th July - King of the Monsters
This monster fighting game is not too bad. I'd give it 3 stars.
Re: Beer Pong Goes Alcohol Free
Why are people pooping on Nintendo over this? Nintendo didn't censor the game. Nintendo informed them of the angry soccer mom lobby. They probably gave them a choice between changing the "theme" of the game or having it changed for them, but this hardly amounts to censorship, especially "heavy" censorship.
Re: Beer Pong Goes Alcohol Free
This game was only going to sell about 4 copies worldwide anyway. Now if they try to use this name-change as an excuse for poor sales, they're delusional idiots. And Darren, I sure hope you were being facetious when you said the name change to Pong Toss would make any difference whatsoever.
Re: Mega Man 1 & 2 Coming To North America Soon?
I'll buy MM1-2 on the VC this summer.