@CarlosM87 Back when NL originally split off from the Virtual Console Forums (now rebranded as This Old Neon), we kept the forums going and a chunk of the original community is actually still posting there. Still enjoying the old video games!
Eh, Bit.Trip Beat and Art Style: ORBIENT are good for what they are, but they have their fair share of problems. Similarly, I suspect this is OK for what it is, too. For 600 points, it could be a nice deal for folks who are interested in the "bit" aesthetic.
xesbeth, Europeans can at least import NA copies of this game, killing two birds with one stone:
1. You get a localized copy of the game (in English, anyway, for whatever that's worth, but since you're posting here in English I assume that's OK). 2. You boost sales of this poor little feller for XSeed.
This game is awesome. I actually prefer this one to its sequel, too. It's relatively simple and streamlined, which means it's also very well-balanced. Very very happy to finally see this one released.
@ joshysquashy — He said Microsoft, not the XBox, owns the office. Yasee, Microsoft also produces this line of popular and successful computer software...
Actually, thinking along these lines is basically the only way their "Sony owns the living room" comment can even be justified, since Sony produces a huge number of different home entertainment devices. Problem is, they explicitly said it was the PS3 in this case. Sorry Sony. Maybe they don't realize that their friends only get their PS3s out and play when they're around, because they know they're Sony employees and want to make them feel good.
I agree with you Clayfrd. A big part of the reason games like this might sell poorly on the Wii is because many "serious" gamers that this kind of game would appeal to have more than one console—a Wii and something else—and they would rather play an id game on the "other" console.
Hudson picked up the VC version of Der Langrisser? Wow... that kinda sorta gives me some hope that we'll see Warsong over here in North America, if Hudson is willing to pick that one up as well.
We'll never see Langrisser II or Der Langrisser, unfortunately, but for the love of all things sacred, give us Warsong!
@Nanaki: Yeah, I've provided detailed constructive criticism to the staff of VCR and WWW in the past. I kept the responses they sent me.
But as for the retained NintendoLife content, if I have any constructive criticism, it's simply that I'd like to see news blog posts and reviews be proofread before they're posted.
Sorry if my first comment came off as rude. I legitimately thought this merger was a joke.
Sounds kind of like Darklord is a Tower Defense game. That strikes me as odd, given that we're probably getting Crystal Defenders too. I guess one is in the FFCC setting and one is in the FFTA setting, though...
Kudos to the article author for correctly saying "North America's first confirmed titles". Too bad the article header is still incorrect. "NA" has the same number of letters as "US" so it's equally effective as an abbreviation, more culturally sensitive, and has the added benefit of not being incorrect.
I am tentatively interested in the Wario and Art Style titles, but they're not enough to convince me to downgrade from my DS Lite quite yet. I'll be keeping an eye on the library as it expands.
So... what's the "step back" the review mentions? Just the literal step behind Little Mac?
This is one I never got to play much when I was younger. I'll probably give it a chance when it comes to North America, especially since I'm a fan of the NES one.
Me. But only because I've been predicting it every week.
And to the guys who are asking but getting no reply yet: this game is not turn-based. It's nothing like Shining Force, Fire Emblem, or Final Fantasy Tactics. It's still awesome though. It's just a very different kind of strategy game.
It's an Enix classic or a Square Enix classic, but it's not a Square classic.
I wish I hadn't sold my complete SNES version. At least it helped pay for my education...
Oh another thing... the levels don't play like Fire Emblem at all. This isn't a turn-based game. There's no grid. You deploy units on a map, select destinations, and they move in real time until they come into contact with enemies. Then a mini sort of traditional RPG fight takes place. But this is not a traditional turn-based, gird-based tactical RPG by any means.
Wait, the music is "nothing special" and the only real downside is Yoshi's annoying voice, and that drops the score to a 4/10? OK... This review actually makes the game sound pretty fun.
Tactics Ogre was great, but it was only released in North America on the PS1. I don't know whether they can haul a translation off that version and release it on the SNES version for us or not. Probably not.
Hudson is apparently pulling support for the VC so they can continue what has turned out to be a very lucrative venture developing WiiWare games. This game looks fun enough, but I'm not keen to pop and drop money on it and support a slap in the VC's cute little face.
Like many other people commenting here, I give this game an 8/10 too (in the WiiWare ratings thread on VC-F). The graphics are great, and the controls are nice and tight and responsive.
While the out-of-bounds mechanic was the main problem I had with the game as well, I don't think it detracted THAT much from the game. The "in-bounds" areas are not as small as this review makes them sound, and NO hole requires you to get a hole-in-one to remain in-bounds.
The lack of extra features (especially ridiculous features like weather effects) are not a big issue, nor is the lack of stuff to keep you interested in multiple play-throughs, since you shouldn't be playing this alone anyway. The thing that's going to keep you interested in playing this game multiple times is not leaderboards (puh-leaze, why does everyone fall back on this as the bastion of replay value for every kind of game—they have their place) but competition between multiple players. The first course is easy, and me and all my friends easily get great scores, but the fun part was competing to win against those other golfers. We had a great time with it.
Anyone who was keen on trying this out shouldn't be dissuaded by one single "not bad" review, because reviews from many other people who've played the game are coming in better than "not bad".
We should all bear in mind that these aren't the "best" games, but the "best reviewed" games, as Dazza and the Metacritic folks have indicated. The people who run Metacritic are very careful to indicate that they're merely a review aggregator. In fact, MaBoShi is a great example of one of the common pitfalls of this kind of site; part of the reason that MaBoShi is so high on the list is because its score is only based on five reviews (Brawl, by comparison, comes by its 93 honestly with 80 reviews).
LOL @ people exclaiming "first!", whether they're actually first or not!
I'm watching this game and keeping my eyes on IGN and metacritic for when the reviews start coming in. Could be an interesting title/genre for WiiWare.
Looks OK. The video makes it look like part LocoRoco, part N+...? As soon as I saw the title I said "better have balance board support." At a low price point it could be a good little time-waster.
Drats, I wanted this game to be good, or at least decent/playable. I like shootouts and skills competitions, so it's not like the fact that it's a very limited part of the game bothers me. But controls are important.
I may give the shootout game a try, simply because it's only 500 points. It has multiple play modes and leaderboards, so that must give it 500 points worth of replay value. VC-F folks can expect my professional opinion shortly.
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Re: The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
@CarlosM87 Back when NL originally split off from the Virtual Console Forums (now rebranded as This Old Neon), we kept the forums going and a chunk of the original community is actually still posting there. Still enjoying the old video games!
Re: Review: Bit Boy!! (WiiWare)
Eh, Bit.Trip Beat and Art Style: ORBIENT are good for what they are, but they have their fair share of problems. Similarly, I suspect this is OK for what it is, too. For 600 points, it could be a nice deal for folks who are interested in the "bit" aesthetic.
Re: Commander Video Confirmed For Super Meat Boy
If Toki Tori gets in this game, I will buy it instantly. If not, I will buy it after a few seconds of hesitation.
Re: Toki Tori Merchandise Coming Soon
Hopefully this article will serve as a reminder to those who haven't yet bought this game... Buy it now!
Re: There's a DS Sold For Every One in Five People in Japan
The headline's still redundant.
Re: Retro Game Challenge Sequel Localization Looking Dire
xesbeth, Europeans can at least import NA copies of this game, killing two birds with one stone:
1. You get a localized copy of the game (in English, anyway, for whatever that's worth, but since you're posting here in English I assume that's OK).
2. You boost sales of this poor little feller for XSeed.
Re: Nobunaga's Ambition
This game is awesome. I actually prefer this one to its sequel, too. It's relatively simple and streamlined, which means it's also very well-balanced. Very very happy to finally see this one released.
Re: Nintendo Download: Clubhouse Games, Paper Planes, Platforms and Warring States (US)
Nobunaga!!!!!
Re: Sony: We Own the Living Room, Nintendo Owns the Closet
@ joshysquashy — He said Microsoft, not the XBox, owns the office. Yasee, Microsoft also produces this line of popular and successful computer software...
Actually, thinking along these lines is basically the only way their "Sony owns the living room" comment can even be justified, since Sony produces a huge number of different home entertainment devices. Problem is, they explicitly said it was the PS3 in this case. Sorry Sony. Maybe they don't realize that their friends only get their PS3s out and play when they're around, because they know they're Sony employees and want to make them feel good.
Re: Review: Crystal Defenders R1 (WiiWare)
Hoping for a beefed up combo of this and R2 on the PSN soon.
Re: Review: Samurai Shodown Anthology (Wii)
Looks like SS5 Special didn't make it on after all. That's a real shame. A real shame.
Re: id Chief: "Show Me Why I Should Develop For Wii"
I agree with you Clayfrd. A big part of the reason games like this might sell poorly on the Wii is because many "serious" gamers that this kind of game would appeal to have more than one console—a Wii and something else—and they would rather play an id game on the "other" console.
Re: Nintendo Download: 14 April 2009 (Japan)
Hudson picked up the VC version of Der Langrisser? Wow... that kinda sorta gives me some hope that we'll see Warsong over here in North America, if Hudson is willing to pick that one up as well.
We'll never see Langrisser II or Der Langrisser, unfortunately, but for the love of all things sacred, give us Warsong!
Re: Konami: VC Arcade Support and WiiWare Life Force
Castlevania ReBirth plz.
Re: Welcome to the New Look Nintendo Life!
@Nanaki: Yeah, I've provided detailed constructive criticism to the staff of VCR and WWW in the past. I kept the responses they sent me.
But as for the retained NintendoLife content, if I have any constructive criticism, it's simply that I'd like to see news blog posts and reviews be proofread before they're posted.
Sorry if my first comment came off as rude. I legitimately thought this merger was a joke.
Re: Welcome to the New Look Nintendo Life!
LOL, "new talented writers" — by merging with one of the most poorly written sites on the 'net. This is a great prank idea guys.
Re: Ten Arcade Games We'd Like To See On The Virtual Console Arcade
Great list! Good to see some love for Popeye and Arabian! Strider is also an obvious gimme. I'd throw Q*Bert on my list, too.
Re: Square-Enix Announces Two New Final Fantasy WiiWare Titles
Sounds kind of like Darklord is a Tower Defense game. That strikes me as odd, given that we're probably getting Crystal Defenders too. I guess one is in the FFCC setting and one is in the FFTA setting, though...
Re: US DSiWare "Launch" Titles Confirmed
Kudos to the article author for correctly saying "North America's first confirmed titles". Too bad the article header is still incorrect. "NA" has the same number of letters as "US" so it's equally effective as an abbreviation, more culturally sensitive, and has the added benefit of not being incorrect.
I am tentatively interested in the Wario and Art Style titles, but they're not enough to convince me to downgrade from my DS Lite quite yet. I'll be keeping an eye on the library as it expands.
Re: Review: Super Punch-Out!! (SNES)
So... what's the "step back" the review mentions? Just the literal step behind Little Mac?
This is one I never got to play much when I was younger. I'll probably give it a chance when it comes to North America, especially since I'm a fan of the NES one.
Re: USA VC Update: Alex Kidd: The Lost Stars
It's worth noting that this was released in Canada today as well... unfortunately.
Re: EU VC Update: Clu Clu Land and Wonder Boy III: Monster Lair
You know, this isn't too too bad, but it's... well, it's pretty bad, yeah. Better luck next time dudes!
Re: Review: Ogre Battle: The March of the Black Queen (SNES)
Great score for a great game. Fully deserving. The neat Ultima-style character creation is worth mentioning, too.
Re: USA VC Update: Ogre Battle: The March of the Black Queen
Me. But only because I've been predicting it every week.
And to the guys who are asking but getting no reply yet: this game is not turn-based. It's nothing like Shining Force, Fire Emblem, or Final Fantasy Tactics. It's still awesome though. It's just a very different kind of strategy game.
Re: USA WiiWare Update: Family & Friends Party
This game title epitomizes every complaint that people have about the Wii.
Re: USA VC Update: Ogre Battle: The March of the Black Queen
It's an Enix classic or a Square Enix classic, but it's not a Square classic.
I wish I hadn't sold my complete SNES version. At least it helped pay for my education...
Oh another thing... the levels don't play like Fire Emblem at all. This isn't a turn-based game. There's no grid. You deploy units on a map, select destinations, and they move in real time until they come into contact with enemies. Then a mini sort of traditional RPG fight takes place. But this is not a traditional turn-based, gird-based tactical RPG by any means.
Re: Review: Yoshi's Story (N64)
Wait, the music is "nothing special" and the only real downside is Yoshi's annoying voice, and that drops the score to a 4/10? OK... This review actually makes the game sound pretty fun.
Re: ESRB Update: Four New WiiWare Games on the Way
I don't care how many episodes FF4:TAY gets released in, nor do I care how much they each cost. I will get them all. I love FF4!
Re: USA WiiWare Update: Onslaught
This was released in Canada today as well, of course.
It'll be fun playing some multiplayer FPS action against fellow forumers.
Re: Hudson Not Abandoning Virtual Console After All?
Faxanadu!!!!!!!
Less importantly, but still importantly, Xexyz!!!
Re: Japanese Virtual Console list - February 2009
Tactics Ogre was great, but it was only released in North America on the PS1. I don't know whether they can haul a translation off that version and release it on the SNES version for us or not. Probably not.
Re: Want Toki Tori Merchandise? Speak Up Now!
Me too Dazza! Toki Tori figurine ftw!
Re: Wonder Boy in Monster Land Includes Special Options
Sixteenth!
Re: Wonder Boy in Monster Land
Come on, let's be fair to dfalco. He didn't say it's the worst game on the SMS... he said it's the "wrost"...
Re: Capcom To Release Mega Man 9 Soundtrack
$30 = bargain price...? :lolo-spin:
Re: Bit.Trip: Beat Coming To WiiWare
Sounds interesting. I like simple classic gameplay paired with music lately. Could be worth a look.
Re: Pop Them, Drop Them SameGame Hits Japan Next Week
Hudson is apparently pulling support for the VC so they can continue what has turned out to be a very lucrative venture developing WiiWare games. This game looks fun enough, but I'm not keen to pop and drop money on it and support a slap in the VC's cute little face.
Re: Ten Games We'd Like To See On The Virtual Console In 2009
Good list, actually. When I clicked on the link, I was getting myself all ready to say "where's Soul Blazer on this list!?" but there it is.
Re: Virtual Console Reviews - Best of 2008
I don't agree with anyone who thinks this was a bad year for the virtual console, but I do agree that this is a bad top-5 list.
Re: Review: Fun! Fun! Minigolf (WiiWare)
Like many other people commenting here, I give this game an 8/10 too (in the WiiWare ratings thread on VC-F). The graphics are great, and the controls are nice and tight and responsive.
While the out-of-bounds mechanic was the main problem I had with the game as well, I don't think it detracted THAT much from the game. The "in-bounds" areas are not as small as this review makes them sound, and NO hole requires you to get a hole-in-one to remain in-bounds.
The lack of extra features (especially ridiculous features like weather effects) are not a big issue, nor is the lack of stuff to keep you interested in multiple play-throughs, since you shouldn't be playing this alone anyway. The thing that's going to keep you interested in playing this game multiple times is not leaderboards (puh-leaze, why does everyone fall back on this as the bastion of replay value for every kind of game—they have their place) but competition between multiple players. The first course is easy, and me and all my friends easily get great scores, but the fun part was competing to win against those other golfers. We had a great time with it.
Anyone who was keen on trying this out shouldn't be dissuaded by one single "not bad" review, because reviews from many other people who've played the game are coming in better than "not bad".
Re: Metacritic's Best Wii Games of 2008
We should all bear in mind that these aren't the "best" games, but the "best reviewed" games, as Dazza and the Metacritic folks have indicated. The people who run Metacritic are very careful to indicate that they're merely a review aggregator. In fact, MaBoShi is a great example of one of the common pitfalls of this kind of site; part of the reason that MaBoShi is so high on the list is because its score is only based on five reviews (Brawl, by comparison, comes by its 93 honestly with 80 reviews).
Re: Wayforward Launches Official LIT Web Site
LOL @ people exclaiming "first!", whether they're actually first or not!
I'm watching this game and keeping my eyes on IGN and metacritic for when the reviews start coming in. Could be an interesting title/genre for WiiWare.
Re: USA VC Update: Phantasy Star IV
Fantastic update for Christmas! Yay! Nice to get three good games for a change instead of one terrible one.
Re: RealArcade Interview - Tiki Towers
Well, the 500 point price and the word "BananaMana" sell me on this game. Congratulations.
Re: EU WiiWare Update: World Of Goo And Lots More!
World of Goo and Orbient alone would have made for a great update! Happy holidays France!
Re: DK Games Announces Equilibrio for WiiWare
Looks OK. The video makes it look like part LocoRoco, part N+...? As soon as I saw the title I said "better have balance board support." At a low price point it could be a good little time-waster.
Re: Fun! Fun! Minigolf Wants To Be In Your Christmas Stocking!
Whether this game is any good will hinge on how well the controls are implemented.
Re: Review: Hockey Allstar Shootout (WiiWare)
Drats, I wanted this game to be good, or at least decent/playable. I like shootouts and skills competitions, so it's not like the fact that it's a very limited part of the game bothers me. But controls are important.
Re: USA WiiWare Update: Bruiser & Scratch, Hockey Allstar Shootout
These are out in Canada today as well.
I may give the shootout game a try, simply because it's only 500 points. It has multiple play modes and leaderboards, so that must give it 500 points worth of replay value. VC-F folks can expect my professional opinion shortly.
Re: Space Invaders Get Even
So did Square Enix actually badge this game or are they still using the "Taito: A Square Enix Company" label?