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Starwars Pinball & Donkey Kong and will probably upgrade Metroid to WiiU VC (used Club Nintendo Points to buy the WiiVC version when Super Metroid came to WiiU). May get Kid Icarus if I still qualify for discount.

I wjust wonder in what context this shift in focus to ms/sony is?
It could be with ps4/Xbone release just around the corner they are aiming to get thier launch titles done and out there and once the dust settles Ubi will be bringing which ever games to which ever platform. Maybe they are seperating from WiiU, but either way things have not been shown in any context in regards of Ubi's long term plans.

Its not restraint its business mentality, where as Most Western publishers treat thier games as potential cash cows, Nintendo don't.
Yes Nintendo games tend to get less dlc, but in return you usually more content on disc and when dlc is released by Nintendo it's usually worthwhile and good value.

No body officially said it wasn't.. but it seems unless anything is screamed from the roof tops then its automatically assumed its not on WiiU.
There's been quite a few of these situations now where people presumes the worst.

@Rafie I never understood fully why FB2 'Would not work properly' on WiiU tbh. I can only assume FB2 was cpu intensive and Dice didn't or wasn't given the opertunity to optimise the engine to make use of the WiiU's architecture, (cpu-gpgpu relationship and cache's) by EA.. nor could anyone else really hence why it was pretty much excepted as a bs excuse at the time not to use the engine on WiiU. FB3 would be a case of optimising the engine to use the WiiU's architecture properly, and obviously scale back from what the Ps4/Xbone can output due to having less ram on WiiU, but this would if done properly be a better running engine on WiiU than Ps3/360
Konami who knows, that is a mystery to me, Though I don't think they are as big now as they used to be, could be wrong but no 'big AAA games spring to mind in recent years that made a massive amount of sales on Mainstream home consoles (feel free to correct) so maybe its financial? Activision, Ubisoft, Codemasters, WarnerBros, Capcom all seem to be, at least in a small capacity supporting WiiU, at least for now. Maybe thats because they are waiting to see how things pan out over time, and these publisher are trying to show WiiU owners they are happy to support the WiiU, if demand is there.. as I say EA abandoned WiiU, internally at least, prior to xmas, if they hadn't they would of had one or two more games due for release this year.

@Rafie Fair do's, however looking at facts not rumours, EA not complimentary towards WiiU since January despite Good pre-christmas launch figures, No other EA WiiU games started development since NFSMW, EA drop Online passes, EA announce Partnership with Microsoft, Microsoft Announce Severe restrictions on drm rights which causes massive backlash, EA start saying kinder things about WiiU (by comparison), Microsoft u-turn drm policy on Xbone, EA releases more WiiU friendly comments (again by comparison).
Theres definatley more to the EA-WiiU relationship beyond sales figures and system specs, and now the playing field isn't as they planned EA are trying to get grab a bit more of the turf they gave away earlier in the year.
Dice didn't even try to get FB3 on WiiU, since from what they were saying FB2 didn't work properly on WiiU and stopped going down that avenue. Dice being an EA developer, and given EA's then 'No plans for WiiU' and 'WiiU not Next-gen/underpowered' stance at that time it was obvious bs to try to veer consumers and possibly other developers away from WiiU.
EA can't suddenly turn around and say Fb3 and associated games will work and are coming to WiiU, We know we said they wouldn't and couldn't go on WiiU but we exagerated the lack of power of the WiiU a bit. What they can do is drop the odd statement like 'we are waiting for a larger userbase to build, there is a possibility of, we are looking at what projects to bring to WiiU in the future.' By doing this they can make it seem a much harder task to bring games to WiiU than it actually is, and buy time to (re)start the development cycle for WiiU games.

It gets me the amount of people defending EA.. Ok fair play they havn't in actuall wording said 'We are totally abandoning Nintendo and WiiU' but it pretty damn obvious by thier own and developers they publish for comments that the sub-text was 'Buy Ps4, Buy Xbone and you will get our games, we can't be bothered with the WiiU. ALL of the negativity EA & Co have thrown at WiiU has Either been proven false or exagerated by thier own u-turn comments or by other developers/publishers.
I strongly believe Nintendo's refusal of Origin control over Nintendo Network started EA on the path of abandoning WiiU but with MS now publically abandoned drm fiasco, and the rumoured last minute drop of Sony's drm restrictions on ps4.. (which is almost definatley true, do you really believe MS would of announced thier restrictions if they hadn't believed Sony were doing the same?) it has made EA actually rethink thier stance on WiiU
Having, internally at least, abandoned WiiU before the end of last year, hence no other games have even been started in development since NFSMW and the constant WiiU bashing they have to now try to tactically make a return (start??) to support the WiiU without getting egg on thier face by attracting to much attention to past WiiU negativity. They have been very clever in past negative WiiU comments in terms of making the sub-text quite clear in that they were telling the WiiU to get stuffed, without actually saying it and no doubt they will sucker a lot of people with pr spin and carefull wording into thinking EA were not being Anti WiiU all along....Seems to already be working.
On the plus side as I said Months ago, Come Next year EA and a lot of other publishers WILL be including WiiU in thier plans without a doubt.

@Peach64 Having a Unified Nintendo account wont make a difference to Digital releases having a finite amount of time before if you don't already have a Digital Title downloaded you'll lose it.
Xbox Live and Psn both have a unified system yet NO 360 digital titles will work on the Xbone and in years to come MS will turn ofv the 360 xbl servers as they did on the Xbox a few years after the 360 had been in sale. Ps4 is slightly different as if/when Sony turn off the Ps3 psn servers you may still have access to at least some of your Ps3 downloads via the Ps4's cloud streaming service but you still at the metcy of which titles you've brought and Which titles are available.
Even transfering drm rights from old to new replacment hardware is/will only be possible on 360/ps3 if the servers are still active for that system.
Regardless of how drm is handled digital downloads will not always be available to you unless you are lucky enough to not have a system fail on you even after the system generation has long passed and you dont have a hdd failure. The thing is Ps4 Xbone and WiiU (possibly WiiU2 if released within 5/6 years) will be the last home systems to have games published as physical media.

Looking forward to this for a long time, the real life tables this offers sit nicley with the Fantast tables you find within Zen Pinball.

Written off due to FB2 not working well on WiiU
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/05/dice_tested_its_frostbite_engine_on_wii_u_wasnt_enamoured_with_the_results
Oh dear EA, you starting to feel the Pain of those Anti WiiU lies you cast out earliervin the year?
Like the fact they still use the systems sales, or lack of, even though the actual total unit sales, even now are with in range of the Ps3/360 total sales for the same time period after launch.
I would accept the reason being 3rd party game sales are not great, as unfortunatley that is the case. Sometimes that has been the fault of the publisher, but there has been a few occasions now where 3rd party sales should of been higher.

@Tmdean Agree, Look at Atari and more Recently Sega, both Hardware Manufacturing Game publishers and both not even close to what they were in their hardware manufacturing hayday. (Are Atari even around now?)
Its a Knock-on effect of no longer creating hardware to match your game idea's and having to make games fit hardware. A lot of creativity is lost in the process, which is what makes Nintendo THE top games publisher.

Pilot Wings Is MUST buy.

This is great news, but since NiNtendo paid so much interest in this I get a feeling Nintendo was always going to step in if the need arose.

Thats a small download, DVD based games are around 7gb, Lego City Undercover is over 20gb. Its not really a problem since those who have 8gb WiiU's surly would not be intending in downloading retail games and those at 32gb should of have space.
Besides Most WiiU owners who prefer Digital downloads would have or are planning to buy a HDD which are cheap enough.

He went on a bit didn't he? he could of easily shortend his whole explanation of lack support to ' We just couldn't be bothered'... which He did say in a long winded way. 'If we could of press a button'... like they do on every cross platform game.. the enter key on Convert to <insert platform> option.

@Doma 'You could be right. But in my case it just adds to the long list of Nintendo's horrible anti-consumer practices;
Region Locked
No account system
Forcing you to buy a HD
Their countless number of add-on accessories
Never any price drops on their games'

Yes its region locked... but tbh untill Ps4/Xbone are out its the norm
There is an account system and purchases are linked to it, however you can't simply redownload your previous purchases to new hardware which is something I hope is fixed.
If you are not downloading games other than VC titles the 32gb WiiU is plenty of storage. A VC title is only a few meg, game saves are often less than a meg. Your not really forced to by a HDD, but you if you do A 2tb is around £60-£70 from amazon and is 4x bigger than those found on Ps4/Xbone, as standard. If Ps4 follows Ps3 then you'll easily be able upgrade the internal HDD easily enough but the tranfering of data is a awkward and lengthy process, transfering from WiiU memory to HDD is easy and pretty quick.
WiiU has No extras accessories, bar a few charger options, and mostly 3rd party, at this time, Over the years Wii did get a quite few made for the system but All were optional.
WiiU eStore games has had a lot of temporary and perminant price cuts already, not to mention the 30th anniversary VC promo. I can't comment if these sort of price cuts happen on 3DS as I don't own one.

Region locking/unlocking can be benificial to english speaking regions mainly, as some times games are released in only in the US a long time before the EU or vice versa or if your Australian then maybe you wont get the game at all... which sucks for my Australian buddys.
But for most part people wether a system is region free or not isn't going to put them off buying or buying a system.

My big concern is this is supposed to be a Nintendo fan site but here we have a talking point which opens the door for Sony/MS fanboys to beat-on Nintendo. Lets be honest I bet less than 2% of this sites traffic even bothered to think I hate WiiU/Won't buy WiiU as its not region free, and that small percentage of people who may of had an issue witg region locking would of brought it up in the forum where other like minded-people would of talked about it.

I hope there's a demo of F1 racestars, reason being I would like to support Codemasters entry onto WiiU, the trouble is The Ps3 version was at best average.
Maybe Codies have not simply done a port, and optimised the game, and maybe as a result it feels a better game... without a demo I guess I'll be holding off for a while untill I can see what the overall opinion is via Miiverse.

Now there are no drm restrictions on Any system EA will be fairer on all systems. EA and others were under the impression both ps4 and Xbone would run simular drm restrictions. Now they are trying to get them selves out of the corner with thier Anti WiiU comments, lies and non-support.

Didn't know about Nabbit single player cheat, but would rather have personal glory of keeping with Luigi. As I did on NSMBU I keep a save for single player only mode.. no touch screen malarky, or proper multiplayer,and I didn't use the Luigi's help box.
In NSMBU you only got 5 shiny completion stars if you never used the luigi help box so wonder if the Luigi dlc limits you from getting 5 shiny completion stars if you use nabbit?
I won't use the Nabbit cheat, Just in case, I want my Shiny Stars, but good to know as it'll help my 5yr old out.
The DLC is great and worth every penny for the price and the amount of content you get... It would of been nice to have some Luigi tailored Challenge levels but who knows maybe they will arrive as smaller, cheaper dlc packages in the future... possibly some for NSMBU aswell you never know.
The review is a fair reflection.

@BoxMonkey, You can still use the pro Controller and have the sound output via the gamepad, even when playing on TV.
The reason I mention this is A), if your not using the gamepad to play, but also and more importantly, B) In WiiU system setting have the gamepad sound set to surround and use headphones to get great surround sound to really get things spooked up.
(surround sound via headset/gamepad also works well on other games that allow gamepad sound output while playing on TV)

Luigi DLC, MHU3, Resident Evil and Zen Pinball..
I finished the excellent Injustice story mode ages ago and am waiting for the matchmaking patch to arrive. Fantastic game marred only by this unbelievable oversight.

@Pod I just don't get where you got the impression it was going to be free, Nintendo hasn't ever given the faintest indication that this would be free, in fact they've always refered to it as a puchase from either the eStore or at retail.
Secondly, as much as Like free dlc, I never expect it, no matter how small or big the dlc is. At the end of the day someone or a group of people have spent time & resources in creating dlc an in turn earned a wage. I only expect DLC pricing to reflect the content your getting, A whole expansion pack 82 levels long at less than £20 is really good value for money.
I know of full games costing £40+ that don't offer the amount of content you get with luigi Dlc which also sell you content that should of been included in the full game as dlc for £5 a pop.

@BossBattles Here Here! Think thats the curse of gaming becoming mainstream entertainment.

@element187 Agree, tbh theres numerous 'factors' as to why 3rd party support is lacking, but if more WiiU owners were to show that athough smaller % of sales in 3rd party games were higher then the publisherswould be more willing to bring games to WiiU.
However I think with Some publisher greed played a bigger factor in not supporting WiiU. For example, EA, now most people know that a games development cycle is at least 6 months. EA's last game to be published on WiiU was NFSMW, for them not to have any WiiU games announced as in development since means EA chose to not develop for WiiU before they had any indication of how WiiU uptake would pan out. Especially since since prior to christmas WiiU was selling really well. Ea and others no doubt were under the impression both the PS4 and Xbone were to have the restrictive DRM system thats now been ditched by Microsoft (I have no doubt the rumour about Sony only abandoning it when MS recieved so much backlash is true), mean while the WiiU would of been the only console leaving market open fir trading and sharing of games... losing publishers money.
I would love to know whats happening behind closed doors between both Sony & Microsoft with publishers, no doubt many publishersare not going to be happy about the drm restrictions being lifted, especially since many were stating much higher development costs for Ps4 and Xbone, some even saying games would need to retail at a Increased cost.
On the plus side in regards to WiiU and 3rd party support the u-turn on DRM restrictions could benifit the system as pubishers may look at it as a revenue to cover the increased dev cost on ps4/Xbone, the WiiU is after all cheaper to develop for. Time will tell but as I say, If more 3rd party publishers do decide to support WiiU, what ever the deciding factor is, unless a majority of WiiU owners are willing to change thier mindset and buy 3rd party titles then any gains will quickly be lost again, regardless of Nintendo's own efforts.

Tbh I will give credit to Ninendo, they have been hard at work taking steps to get back 3rd party support... on the face of it it's hard to tell with how much degree of success as it depends on which publisher you reference as to what response you get for the WiiU. This ranges from out right No to maybe, to yes.
People keep saying its all down to lack of sales, this is untrue, Xbone/Ps4 sales are an unknow, WiiU overall sales are between 360/ps3 sales for the same amount of time after initial launch.
Lack of power is also cited as a reason, again untrue, if that was the case then a most of the new titles heading to Xbone/Ps4 would not be heading to 360/Ps3.
The real reason is for the most part there is a mental attitude amoung most Nintendo fans that they only buy Nintendo Consoles for Nintendo Games. Developers know this, Publishers know this and even Nintendo know this.
Nintendo are doing all they can to get 3rd party support, but at the end of the day unless the mentality of Nintendo gamers change it's all going to be for nothing anyway.
Maybe with any luck sme of those people who despite u-turning on Drm policies still dont trust Microsoft and are not willing to have to pay to be able to play a game online on ps4 might go to WiiU, and by doing so increase the percentage of WiiU owners wanting and willing to buy and 3rd Party titles.
Maybe Not, but then since almost every WiiU owner are complaining about lack of 3rd party support but only half of them are willing to buy 3rd party titles there's plenty of scope within the WiiU's user base to help Nintendo build up and Keep more 3rd Party support., If only people would change thier attitude.

@WesGrogan 'You're not exactly getting horse armor here.'
Lol.. totally forgot about that Oblivion dlc... Sorry to admit it but I got suckered into buying that on the 360 version when the dlc was 1st launched.
I was younger and filled with hype for, at that time the newly released 360 in my defence.

It sounds like it suffers from common problems found in these Mini-game compilations, but don't think it's a reflection of the game, more the genre, and for the genre this looks to be one of the better ones.
If the price is right, £20-£30 then I'll pick it up, sounds like a bit of fun to play with the family.

Why are people moaning the about the price? 4 maps on something like CoD or something is £12 there abouts, this 82 level expansion pack is £18 as download
The Price vs Content your getting is far from expensive.

Refering to thisas dlc is kind of wrong, its actually a full blown expansion pack. Whats is great about it is that although a lot of thecold assets are reused, as you'd expect it does feen different from NSMBU. The level design, the shorter time limit, the way Luigi moves all add to a different feeling than you have with NSMBU.
My only critism, is it would of been nice to have some Challenge levels tailored for luigi... but who knows, maybe thats something to come as small dlc packages.. possibly even some for NSMBU.

@bofis Initial dl is 1.5gb, but installs as just over 700mb.
Depending on network speed, and wether your using a HDc or internal memory will effect dl/install time.
3min install, 7min download for me last night... external HDD though.

Ot wont happen, but maybe bar a few seen before staple characters, Mario, Samus etc maybe they should just go a different rout and introduce a whole new roster. By default, at least.
A load of new characters, with new moves, would mean more or less everybody will lose out on favorite characters but gain a more or less whole new roster to learn and enjoy.
Of coure Nintendo could bring back old fav's and some less popular characters with thier dedicated fans by releasing multiple dlc packs. How cool would it be to have Map and character packs based on older Smash Bros games? For example SSB Melee Map pack with levels found in that game, ans SSB Melee character Pack containing Character found in Melee but not included in SSBU.
In the long term everyone will eventually get the characters they love the most, and in the fairness of character balancing online matchmaking coud have a simple filter to restrict the use of character packs.

Having slept on the Microsoft DRM U-turn I can't say I trust MS not to re-introduce the restrictions via a system update at a later date when People have invested a lot of money into buying games for the system.
Rumour was Sony was set to do the drm bs but chose not to after the backlash MS recieved, and I actually believe it because I can't see MS actually wanting to be the one to implement such a system which they knew was going to be controversal at the very least. This leads me to believe that at somepoint Sony will want to implement DRM restriction via a system update.
How i see it is Sony and MS are at a High-noon standoff, waiting to see who will draw first meanwhile Nintendo looking on waiting to see who's going to kill who first so they can swoop in and steal the losers boots.

With such a huge library of characters to choose from anch each of these character having its own fan base obviously there's going to be some people dissapointed when certain charcters are left out.
But in this age of dlc, Nintendo can create an initial roster then looking at fan feedback via Miiverse and Forums etc and bring additional characters to the game at a later date for a small fee.

@LDXD I know what you mean. As you know I got tired of MS on 360, but switching to Ps3 didn't make no difference to my gaming related feeings. WiiU did, I actualy enjoy gaming again, I know its personal thing and everyone has thier feelings to which ever platform.
My issue is 3rd Party titles, Wether it WiiU, PC, Ps4, or Xbone, next year I'll know which platform will offer me the most 3rd party titles I'm interested in but with minimal negatives to suffer to get them.
Even then though WiiU is not being abandoned by me if I get a second system. its got so many unique out-of-the-box unique features... which ive saida billion times already lol, so apolgies.

@Rafie.. lol like your analogy at the end.. and its true.

I'm still sticking with Giving it a year to see how everything pans out with WiU, Ps4 and now Xbone.. since they have sorted the drm bs out.

and sorry for mising letters in posts.. my tablets playing up.. think I need a new one.

One thing the drn u-turn does do, is put Xbone-Ps4 on a more even battlefield.. I can see a lot of people now switch back t buying Xbone, thus reducing Ps4 sales, meanwhile not eveyone willtrust MS, ad won't want to pay for Kinect and stay Ps4.
The result, Xbone and Ps4 wilk negativley impact each others sale meaning WiiU sales will compare stronger against both systems.

@LDXD @Rafie There was a rumour up untill the public reception MS got regarding the drm policies on Xbone that Siny were set to dothe same. They pulled it at the last minute apparantly. MS have now pulled thier restrictions so it does beg the question... Will either Sony or NS implement the Drm restrctions in couple of years time once they've sold enough units to count potential sales lost as a viable loss?

out of fairness, and because this site seems to populated more by Sony Fanboys than Nintendo Fans, Just latley and it might actually mean the Nintendo fans can enjoy the site while Sony and Micrsoft fanoys fight amongst themselves, here's confirmation that MS have ideed realised they F***-up and u-turned on there drm/ required online Xbone policy
http://majornelson.com/2013/06/19/your-feedback-matters-update-on-xbox-one/

@Rafie I was highlighting to play ps4 online which is why people will buy ps4 you do have to pay A sub.
I already mentioned this elsewhere but unless there been a official announcment the past few days then Price of games are still to be confirmed. My cousin found this out when pre-ordering his ps4, and trying to find out how much games will cost so he could work out what games he could afford to pre-order.

@Rafie Correction- MS do indeed restrict all online apps and games unless you pay a sub. With PS4, you are required to pay a subscription if you want to Play online. As for online apps you are correct.
But @LDXD points still stands, to play online you DO have to pay a Subscription... which if people are buying a system its to primarily play games on not watch Netflix etc.

http://www.geek.com/games/ps4-online-multiplayer-will-require-a-playstation-plus-subscription-1559260/

I understand the reluctance to go digital by some, but I don't understand why anyone is willing to wait an extra month and pay more and miss out on earning points on the premium promotion just for a green box If you already have NSMBU.
I'm not faulting the logic, as each to thier own and all that, I'm just saying I don't understand it...
I guess there is the storage space requirement, depending on how big tne download is and if you have the 8gb or 32gb WiiU but no HDD, but then thats reasoning beyond 'I want the green box'

@ToneDeath I'll find the links later, but Nintendo are already talking about ideas to bring to WiiU Metroid, and are talking about bringing back older older franchises, FZero, Starfox etc.
Untill I post links, check MyNintendoNews, Nintendo Enthusiast or Cubed, normally along with NL these are the sites I check for Nintendo News.

First step to recovery is admiting you have a problem, which os what Nintendo have done.
They are/have been a successful company for 30yrs, the only true failure they ever had was the Virtual Boy, and they've learned so much more since then, and without doubt this time next year all these 'problems' will be a distant memory.
Fact is Nintendo's problems going into next year have been massively reduced, Xbone has been extremely badly recieved, and Ps4 even has it's share of people reluctant in being forced into pay-to-play online. Nintendo are capable of turning things around, they've proven it in the past and lets face it they have enough money that if the need really arose, they could shorten the WiiU's lifespan to just a couple of years and bring out a new system which would blend Nintendo's uniqueness, with high performance, and probably a more developer friendly architecture, and price it competitivley with Xbon/Ps4, possible even undercutting those systems but taking a bigger lose on system manufacturing costs, like Sony are on Ps4, albeit trying to recoup those losses via online subscription.

@LDXD Its the online fee's thats killed my purchase of ps4, I don't have a gaming capable pc, not by todays standards anyway, but I'm hoping that WiiU 3rd support picks up. Tbh I'm not even fussed if a lot of 3rd party games skip WiiU, as most are carbon copies of each other, but if support improves then WiiU will be enough for me.
Even if it doesn't, While A ps4 would be the cheaper option, I am considering spending more on a decent gaming pc, knowing that I can build/repair/upgrade it myself and to a higher spec than the ps4, aswell as not have to pay to play online.... or I may just decide to stick with WiiU and await the next Nintendo system.
What ever I decide it's not going to be untill the end of next year, so I can get the full picture on the WiiU's and Ps4's plus and minus points.

@LDXD Lol so we both called ourselves as sounding like fanboys.
Thing is I have a ps3, covered in dust collected since January. I Originally intended to use this year to build up the WiiU as the family system fo me,my missus and kids to play together and then get either Xbone or Ps4 depending on what they offered.
Xbone for me killed my purchases with the stupid Drm system, Kinect Spying (only just found out renting films will incure an extra fee if more than a set, undisclosed number of people are in the room), Keeping the online subscription model and the seen it before games/gameplay
Ps4, Which is the most likely 2nd console for me to get, if I ever bother, killed my purchase for now at least due to Online Subscription and seen it all before games/gameplay.
The fanboys are blind to it but the gamepad can and does numerous benifits to a gamer, games and gameplay that out-of-the-box & without substantial extra investment you can't get on other systems.. and even then it will be hit-n-miss if games will use any ideas requiring a second screen as its not as standard (except all ps4 games can be played via remote play on vita.. if that works better than psp/vita remote playing Ps3 games)
The only reason, arguably to get a ps4, is for non WiiU 3rd party titles, but considering the online fee required for ps4, untill I see a few games that have original, great gameplay, with original never before seen ideas and not available on WiiU I'm not in any rush, and tbh I don't think there will be.
Besides Ps3/360 will be supported for another 4 years at least, Ps4/Xbone won't be replaced for at least 8 years meanwhile Nintendo will stop supporting Wii in 2 years (its slowly winding down now, and WiiU will be replaced in another 4 years, at least being the same spec, but probably being more powerfull than the Ps4/Xbone but using only on on Nintendo unique features to add to gameplay.

Sorry thats a long post... and it still ended up sounding fanboyish..lol

And yet again, someone wanting Nintendo to take thier games to other hardware. Fact is Nintendo create thier hardware so fit thier ideas they have for game. If Nintendo were to go multiplatform then Nintendo would be restricted in thier ideas due to having to make thier ideas fit the hardware.
Its simple you want to play Nintendo games, then you buy Nintendo Hardware.
Whats really funny Nobody every bothers to wish Halo, Killzone or Gears of War was multiplatform.

@LDXD I wasn't trying to call you a Fanboy, sorry if thats the impression you had.
Like you having shinier graphics does not equate to better games in my opinion.