@6ch6ris6 and others, You have 3 playstyles, Assault: Run-n-Gun, Panther: Steath Kills, Ghost:Stealth Knockouts and your awarded Points/Medels for each way you play. Stealth is a VERY big part of this game.
Review doesn't do it justice, but a review is just 1 persons opinion. My Self-Confessed Sony Fanboy Brother-in-Law even admits WiiU looks and plays better than his Ps3 version. There are Masses of unlocks, Lots of replay value, tons of experimentation allowed and In-game challenges with freinds via Shadownet service... and thats just in Solo Mode. Online Co-op is excelent with team work really needed to get the highest scores as you and a freind work through, at times quite large Co-op levels. Offline Co-op is missing yes, but that was to ensure SC released at the same time as other versions and in its place it has the Gamepad functions. Multiplayer is great too, again team work is required if your going to have a chance and again you have numerous unlocks to earn. Sadly, on all versions there's been connectivity issues, Patch 1 has made things a bit better, but only for those who know about port forwarding/DMZ and understand about running certain rules on a routers built in firewall. However Ubi-ComDev Is Ubisoft recent Miiverse participant and has been activly relaying info regarding Splintercell issues. They have said Patch 2 being worked on and yesterday the WiiU servers were shut down briefly for diagnostic work. Pretty much what Ubisoft had to do with ALL other versions and after 2/3 patches they seem to work online fine now so it shouldn't be long untill the WiiU version is fixed.
Wonder how many (now) GTA haters brought past GTA games and are only declairing thier hatred as its not on WiiU? It wasn't that long ago a lot of people where saying they wanted GTA on WiiU. Morality in games isn't an issue for me, I'm in my late 30's with kids but at the end of the day games regardless of thier subject matter are a bit of escapism from reality, Just because I do something as a character in a game doesn't change my real life morals. Of course I wouldn't let my children play this. I have parental controls switched on on every device they use/have access to so they don't come across anything I think they shouldn't. Games have Age Ratings, and its upto the parents to ensure thier children are not playing/watching/listening to inappropiate content.
There's Wii to WiiU transfere tool in Wii mode on WiiU (thats a lot of Wii's ) yes you need to have copied your Wii downloads to a SD card but after that you run the app to trasfer your old Wii downloads.
Of course Alex Ward going to reassure fans.. he won't want to lose his job. But this is a prime example of how EA sonner or later screw everything up they touch. Criterion, Excel in making great race games, so EA stop them making race games, Downsize the studio to reduce cost... Like that is a great idea. Good thing EA don't want to support WiiU, there wasn't a decent NFS game for years untill Criterian took over, so now that franchise can sit alongside most of EA's other 'Once was Great' Franchises... all of which won't really be missed on WiiU.
See 1% voted for Game Party Champions.... Seriously dont do it... That game is the definition of WiiU Shovelware... I would be conflicted in recommending that game for a fiver.
Unified Accounts are coming, With plans Nintendo has of activating downloads from PC and tablets its obvious, that sort of system wouldn't work without a unified account, but Nintendo being the way they are we won't find out untill a week before it happens. As for "We are due a major system update for the Wii U in the coming weeks or months, a final date is yet to be given. " Although No excact date Nintendo already announced end of September/ Begining of October.. as reported here at NL and other sites a while back, so its hardly months away. But I don't think unified accounts are going to be part of that update. I think Nintendo are trying to link 3DS and WiiU closer together in terms of services like Miiverse, and 3DS using the Nintendo id. The latter would be required before they could do a unified account system anyway. (for the 3ds at least).
@Stimpy Well thats just stupid on so many levels, not least that WiiU is and has always been designed around the gamepad and if it wasn't then it would have nothing to seperate itself from being the same from any other system on the or coming to the market. Nintendo has innovated (again) and Dual screen gaming, now Nintendo has shown other how to do it will be common what ever the platform but not done as well because it'll operate as an option extra via your home network rather than directly from the system, as standard. If it really is such a bad Idea then why is it Activision, EA, Ubisoft, Sony and Microsoft (I'm sure there's a few others to add to that list) are designing games for 360, Xb1, Ps3 and Ps4 that will use your smart phone, Tablet, Smartglass device and Vita to operate as a second screen?
@sinalefa Online had/has to be fixed on ALL platforms not just WiiU. The Patch has fixed most problems, Online is still semi-broke... With knowledge of portforwarding, assigning dmz and not running a too strict router firewall it does work online fine.
2nd patch already on its way which should fix online completely on WiiU. (It took 2 and 3 patches on other systems too)
@Nintendojoe64 I noticed that, You have to search for the WiiU versions on thier website. Game are doing the special editions along with the standard edition variations on WiiU, but GAME certainly are not promoting the WiiU versions. As you say the WiiU versions are cheaper than the Ps4 and XB1, and the WiiU is the cheapest system to buy of the 3 you would think they would push the WiiU and its games a bit more.
@Peach64 you often cite Actual figures especially when you in Nintendoomed mode... Fact is those less suportive publishers will cite lower sales figures as to why they don't support WiiU, but @wombatkidd is absolutley correct, it's attach rate figures that count, and supportive publishers are looking at those figures not simple sales figures. By your logic NO new system would ever be supported as sales figures do not reach as high than the systems they are replacing.
@MadAussieBloke Magazine cover disc destroyed that concept... those were the days though. Buying the magazine reading a review of "X" Game seeing the game get 95%, bugging your parents to buy it you or if you were old enough not to rely on parents money go out, buy the game, only to find out 10 minutes after slipping the game cart into the slot the game was rubbish.. and back then you didn't have stores doing trade-in's (or they weren't common place anyway) or ebay.. you were screwed... mainly what you did was try and do a swap with a freind hoping they will give you one of thier good games not knowing about your game being naff.
Scores are irrelevent, Traditional score based reviews should be scrapped these days. One or two people reviewing a game is only an opinion and with every system allowing users to rate games on the store, aswell as most retailers letting customers rate/review games and Miiverse and even social media its easy to find a overall opinion across a large cross section of actual users. Also although Nintendo seems to lack the number of game demos on estore than other platforms demo's are great way, in conjunction with Miiverse and Social media etc give the most important person, yourself, the chance to form your own opinion about if a game is for you or not.
To me the pay when you want to play makes sense. Take Singstar and the like, yes you pay out right for the game but have limited number of Songs and then you have to buy more to expand the collection and yes unless you want to expand your tracks theres no extra cost... But... You paying for something that for most people only gets used occasionally, once the novelty wears off and eventually you get bored with whats songs you have. With this you simply pay less than £2 or just over a £5 and you got a hell of a lot of songs for the time period you've paid for ideal for thos occassional uses, like at parties. Not sure about the monthly fee for those you do regularly play the likes of Singstar, Then its a trade of Monthly cost but more songs but not all you'll like, or Less songs but option to pay for only the songs you like.
Ubi have announced earlier looking at issues to create a 2nd patch as soon as possible. Thing is its more down to Netcode and how routers handle the data. I've had no issues since the patch Invites work, joining games etc. However a freind was screaming about how the patch fixed nothing.
But after getting him to put the WiiU into the DMZ on his router he was able to join me but no-one else could join us and he would be dropped if trying to get into a game with others. Found out his router firewall was on, and got him to disable that and then he was able to connect to others without being dropped and others could join him and not just me and others who had already set thier router up just right.
Hopefully the next patch will sort out the need to having your router set up in such a specific way, but at least in the mean time if you know how connection problems can be fixed.
Its going to be usefull to arrange game nights with freinds. Instead of send a message to each freind one post in the activity feed and everyone will see what your trying to arrange.
@PS4WiiU Really you know I hate Sony sooo much, despite owned and owning ps1, ps2, Ps3, Psp, Psvita... and having ps4 on pre-order? ok then..
Fact of matter is When Liberation was realeased Vita had such a small user base, that was the first big push in terms of trying to boost sales with key games, NFS, Liberation, CoD, LBP... Trouble was it didn't work. CoD was a pile of Doggie-Doo and it sold more than Liberation, Hell most of my Vita owning freinds had CoD, NFS, All of them had LBT, yet only 1 bothered getting liberation at launch, and only a couple got it after a while.
Yes % of userbase uptake may have been better for ubisoft thus earning ubi some money compared to other games. but it wasn't the roaring success on Vita your making out, making Ubi huge profits.
WiiU is in no more trouble than Vita, but much like Vita was the system get the negative headlines more often than not Now its the turn of the WiiU.
Most of these games are for tablets. AC-Liberation is obviously aimed at recouping losses on the Vita version, One title is f2p PC and Valiant Hearts is the only one new gane not coming to WiiU.
Looking at it properly, yeh its a bit of a shame No Liberation or Valiant Hearts but its not a major biggie imo... and who knows it seems a trend to announce WiiU versions after others have been announced and I've learned that WiiU versions not being announced is different from a Publisher saying Somethings not going to WiiU. (same for dlc tbh)
Mario Bros & Toki Toki + since its on discount and havn't brought it yet. Still got to get Ducktales aswell. After buying Toki Toki will have enough Premium reward points to earn £5 so thats something.
@Peach64 My kids dont get what they want 'on demand' and a lot of us parents don't just give our kids what they want. My eldest 5, wanted an ipad last xmas. stuff that when my phone upgrade came through I got an iPhone and he and his brother shared my old ipod. My lads wanted a 3DS, as mentioned, Because of the hinges, and partly due to 3D and being under 7 I refused them. My concession is they can ask Santa for a 2DS at christmas. Just because your friend gives thier kids what they want doesn't mean most parents do.
Really?? My boys share my old ipod, and play throw away apps but only for a few minutes at a time before they are bored. Turn on the WiiU and its a struggle to get them of the thing. From the back of WiiU both have asked for a 3DS, though for my liking I wont buy them a 3DS (i'd give it month before they broke the hinges) so I'm getting both of them a 2DS each at Christmas.
In short, Nintendo don't need iOS/Apple to be able to reach to children, If anything Ios need Nintendo to be able to keep children interested in iOS when get a bit older and realise games can last longer than 5 minutes.
Have to agree, Ni tendo Need to ramp up WiiU advertising more. I suppose it depends on which channels you watch as I've personaly seen more WiiU and WiiU game adverts since Pikmin3 released, but thays the problem Ninttendo need to be advertising on Every Mainstream channel.
It sounds to me Nintendo didn't go to bethesda and tell them what they (Nintendo) are planning, or did but not as much as bethesda wanted and this guys thrown his rattle from the pram tbh.
The amount of on-board developers all saying Nintendo are easy to contact, easy to work with, great to get help and info from (reported here and elsewhere from time to time) makes me think this is just bethesda excusing themselves from developing from WiiU... maybe the old 'not enough sales' excuse is starting to not be valid, especially once the other systems are out I doubt it will be.
Even EA and Nintendo were talking for a while a long time before WiiU launched... or else there would be no e3 2011 announcement of that non-excistent Ninty-EA partnership.
Great news that it is I'm slightly worried that this alone won't keep ubisoft or entice other 3rd party publishers to support(ing) WiiU next year. However well Rayman has done Ubisoft have to take into account how poor the WiiU version of Splintercell has sold compared to other versions and unless Watch_dogs and Blackflag sell well on WiiU Ubisoft will be very selective as to what the do and don't release on WiiU.
@Araknie WiiU has the Nintendo id, which is personalised unique account, and it also link the premium rewards site. For WiiU at least it should be a fairly simple process to make eStore purchases linked to the Nintendo id. However 3DS still uses the friend code system, and doesn't use Nintendo id and that is where the problem isn't as easily resolved. Nintendo could go straight ahead and unify WiiU purchases but the 3ds owners would be screaming even louder to have unified account linked to purchases. With plans to allow purchasing from eStore via the pc i'm with little doubt at somepoint acoount linked purchasing is on its way but not before 3DS gets a firmware update to allow the Nintendo id system, maybe even getting rid of the current freind code system.
@Marshi Yes, except NSMBU cost me £49.99 new from game in store back in january. Retailers set prices they feel are competitive with thier rivals, eStore, Psn and Xbox Marketplace set prices at rrp (except at time special promo deals arranged with the publisher). My point being digital purchases are aimed at those who wan't convenience rather than the best deal, main reason being is to keep retailers happy and in business. If eStore etc, set prices that matched or bettered retailers then it would damage the retail side of the industry and the retailers are needed to push and promote systems and games to the general public inc those who may not own system X or even any system.
@Damo Sony only started doing that after sales of Vita was so bad with few Ps3 owners adopting the Vita in a effort to increase sales. MS dont do it already, Windows phones already have a high number of Xbox 360 arcade titles, and even the pc xbox live service shares some of the same games. You use the same gamertag account for all 3 yet you have to purchase the title on All 3 seperatly. Just because Sony have tried to use cross-platform purchasing doesn't make it the Norm that everyone should do.
@Marshi The same price as PsN and Xbl Marketplace also the same price as the rrp set by Ubisoft. When are people going to learn Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony do not set the prices of 3rd party games wether its at retail or digitally. (also applies to dlc content for 3rd party games also)
Me & The missus have brought this towards the kids christmas presents and will be picking up playsets over the next few months. We've both had a little look at the game, or games really as it depends on the character/s and the toybox mode and both of use came away feeling it's a game with massive potential over skylanders and both actually look forward to playing it along with the kids.
@rjejr Quite easily, it's always a gamble when you wait to buy a system down the line. No company is going to declair they will be cutting the price untill they feel they have to as sales would plumit as people would wait untill the price cut before purchasing. Nintendo have already had comments about the price cut announcment and the length of time before it takes effect, and quite rightly, its pointless making the announcment untill a couple of weeks before it due to take place as it stems sales. When ever a price cut is announced there's always going to be some people buying the system a day before the announcment, disaponting- yes, frustrating- yes but its a part of life as a gamer, and its a situation that applies to every system and any electronic device, phone and just about every other product you can purchase regardless of manufacturer.
This price cut is timed about right for Nintendo, The 'Summer Update' is due end of september/Begining October, Windwaker is being released and comes in a limited edition WiiU bundle, it's also nearly a year after the systems launch and at a time when more recognisable Nintendo franchises are close to release.
The closer to launch you buy a system the more you pay/Less you get for the price, regardless of system this has always been they fact of the matter.
With 3DS the price cut was more severe and only a few months after it launched not nearly a year and in that (untill then) unprecidented situation it was obvious some sort of refund for early adoptors was needed. This WiiU price reduction is not the same situation as the 3DS in anyway and I totaly agree with Nintendo on this even though I paid full price back in January.
What next, when the RRP of a game gets a cut in price from a publisher (e.g: Ac3) then DLC should be given to those who brought the game at launch?
In the end the early adoptors, especially those who get a system at launch should realise that at or around a year after launch a price cut or better value bundle will be offered, the same will happen with Ps4, Xb1 and any future system released beyond that.
When are People going to get it in thier heads Price adjustments at about a year after launch IS NORMAL. I brought a band new TV when it first launched, 6 months later the manufacturer cut its RRP so does that mean they should of offered be free subscription to Netflix or something accessable via the tv? NO. Anyone buying a new system at launch or withing 8-12 months knows they will be paying more or getting less in the package than those who decide to hold off.. the sane as anyone buy a WiiU this christmas will pay more than those who wait till next christmas.
At Almost a year after launch there is no need for 'compensation' due to the price cut. except to feed peoples greed. Most tech geta a price reduction at almost a year after it originally launched. 3DS's price cut was a much bigger % and was done not that long after the system launch so it was justifyable for people to complain, this time round its not justifyable. Nintendo has done the right thing, with big releases coming out recently and soon putting a full $100 buffer between the WiiU and Ps4, and $200 to the XB1will certainly make it look more attractive to potential consumers.
Actually the price point, not having to account for the 3D screen makes this a viable option to those of us who have trouble with 3D images. Yes you can simply turn off the 3D on a 3DS but why should I have to pay extra for tech that I simply can't/wont use. The only thing I don't like is the open design, I would of prefered Nintendo made it fold like the 3DS to protect the screens when not in use. Also I'm assuming the screen is the sime size and rez as the standard 3DS. Of it folded ans was XL size then I'd of probably got this at launch.
@Zup Yes youcan go i to data managment and go into the game files for the game you want to delete. You'll see The game, And save files seperatly and maybe a file for patches and dlc. Just delete the files you want to. If you wanted you can even plug in a WiiU format a flash stick and copy you save/s to that for back-up.
@SCAR392 Just tested- You can run games/apps from both 1 hdd and the internal memory simultaneously. However when you have two usb storage devices a message tells you that you can manage data between devices. You get 2 options one being cancel the other to take you to data managment. By canceling you then get a message telling you only one usb storage can be in use at a time. then the system reboots the main menu, presumably to give you time to disconnect one of the devices.
So no unfortunatley no dual HDD use, at the moment at least, even just for memory data due to the way the OS detects usb storage.
I used my 2tb HDD and a 2gb Flash Stick for the test
Btw.. might see if thats possible, I can copy a VC title to my flash stick and take to my cousins see if the game loads up on his WiiU.. but depends on drm and how its handled, be good to know if although purchases are linked to hardware wether the actual hdd is what the drm is linked to rather than the WiiU, I very much doubt it,as it seems very open to game sharing if thats the case.
@SCAR392 You can only play from 1 hdd at anytime upto 2tb. However you can connect 2 hdd's each upto 2tb to copy/move data either as backup or when expanding your storage. i.e 1tb upgrade to 2tb. Thats how I understood it from the firmware notes anyway.
People seem to of forget the reasons why the 360 was enabled via firmware to install from disc... to reduce risk of RROD. People Also forget Why Ps3 has so many forced installs or optional Texture installs... Because the data transfer rate from Bluray is extremely slow (6mbps I believe) and is to help with game load speeds, late texture loading common in a lot of early Ps3 games.
Whats ironic is that with compulsary installs, patches, dlc etc, etc the ps4/xb1's 500gb internal storage is nothing. My Ps3 320gb was filled in less than a year. Also as these are all internal drives if you want to upgrade its a lot more of a chore than simply plugging in a usb HDD (or a second hdd) and copying content across 'like you can with the WiiU. Yes its a shame WiiU doesn't have Usb3.0 ports but overall giving the general 32gb as standard but making it easy to upgrade storage is the best option. Tbh there's no reason via firmware update that an option to install from disc can't appear on WiiU, and even without a firmware update optional install packages could be included in games if the developers wanted to go that route on WiiU.
@Cohort No, but it is individual retail game sales on each platform. Basically the 'fails to reach top twenty charts' refered to here has W101 going against games out on multiple platforms.
With the lower install base, and obviously being only on WiiU being at 22nd in the all formats chart probably isn't that bad.
Strange as my Self confessed Sony fanboy brother-in-law said the My WiiU version looks and Plays better than his Ps3 version and I've heard simular comments about the 360 version 2nd hand.
As for frame drops... I've yet to notice any tbh, and in absolutly no way has there been any screen tearing. I do have my TV set to Game Mode though so maybe thats why even though from disc at least some load times are quite long but not game breaking and not even as long as Lego City.
Partnter or Not with NL, I've given Eurogamer a Wide-birth for years there just as much fanboy bias there as IGN, so maybe this analysis should be taken with just a dash of salt.
@ricklongo I did it seems, I'm not suggesting people buy games that arn't upto scratch or buy games for the sake of it being a 3rd party title. My original comment was to those who are saying 'if it wasn't delayed or gone multi-platform'... or simply holding out because in a couple of months time another simular game is out but published by Nintendo. To be fair its a culture with Nintendo owners that been built up over years, since N64, with Nintendo not getting the 3rd party support. Where most Nintendo Owners simply don't bother with 3rd party games, and when they think they can use a excuse other than It not Nintendo they will use it. Big shame For WiiU because while this attitude continues there is little chance of current supportive 3rd party publishers staying supportive or convincing other publishers who are staying away to try publishing on the WiiU. Whats makes it more frustrating is that the same people not buying 3rd party games, or saying they will buy it on X system instead are the same people ranting when publishers drops the WiiU, or skips a game or cuts content to save costs. A lot of WiiU owners need to learn its a two way street and consumers and publishers need to meet each other in the middle. Of course there is a minority out there who buy 1st and 3rd party titles purly on the basis of which games apeal to them the most, but that minority needs to become the majority.
@ricklongo Course it is, by your logic Publishers should release on which ever platform, regardless of profit losses dur to people not buying thier games. Key to any business operating in a healthy manner is supply & demand if theres no demand for a product then there's no need to supply a product, the heavier the demand then the more as a business you try to meet that demand and offer more.
Far too many people still acting like children about going multi platform.. it really is sad Also a big shame that despite getting great reviews, having upto 5 players for local co-op, challenges and being a gorgeous looking 1080p true hd game with exclusive levels and content that so many people are still not willing to suport Ubisoft by buying this game, and waiting for a first party title not out for a while yet. Thing is all you people not supporting 3rd party developers, especially those like ubisoft or have been and want to continue supporting the WiiU will be on here ranting and complaining about Ubisoft when they stop supporting WiiU. But quite frankly.. Who's fault is it when people simply wont buy any games they release regardless of how good they are... not Ubisofts thats for sure.
@DESS-M-8 Tbh, I brought Splintercell on Disc £20 cheaper than the eStore price (it is same price digitally on all platforms btw) but now having played it there is a lot of game content packed into Splintercell.
The real test of Splintercell full RRP value will be known once we know how much game content is contained within Rayman for its lower rrp.
Watch_dogs and AC Blackflag will be set at £49.99/£54.99 rrp for all platforms standard edition. Be suprised if not but these sort of games have high price tags and not just Ubi games. CoD games rrp are always at the £50 mark and even ps3 version of NFSMW was £59.99 rrp at launch.
Having said that I remember my parents paying £39.99 for Moon Patrol for the Atari2600 in the early 80's from Toys-r-Us so if the new standard price is £50 thats only a rise of £10 on about 30yrs
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Re: Review: Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Blacklist (Wii U)
@6ch6ris6 and others, You have 3 playstyles, Assault: Run-n-Gun, Panther: Steath Kills, Ghost:Stealth Knockouts and your awarded Points/Medels for each way you play. Stealth is a VERY big part of this game.
Review doesn't do it justice, but a review is just 1 persons opinion. My Self-Confessed Sony Fanboy Brother-in-Law even admits WiiU looks and plays better than his Ps3 version. There are Masses of unlocks, Lots of replay value, tons of experimentation allowed and In-game challenges with freinds via Shadownet service... and thats just in Solo Mode.
Online Co-op is excelent with team work really needed to get the highest scores as you and a freind work through, at times quite large Co-op levels. Offline Co-op is missing yes, but that was to ensure SC released at the same time as other versions and in its place it has the Gamepad functions.
Multiplayer is great too, again team work is required if your going to have a chance and again you have numerous unlocks to earn.
Sadly, on all versions there's been connectivity issues, Patch 1 has made things a bit better, but only for those who know about port forwarding/DMZ and understand about running certain rules on a routers built in firewall. However Ubi-ComDev Is Ubisoft recent Miiverse participant and has been activly relaying info regarding Splintercell issues. They have said Patch 2 being worked on and yesterday the WiiU servers were shut down briefly for diagnostic work. Pretty much what Ubisoft had to do with ALL other versions and after 2/3 patches they seem to work online fine now so it shouldn't be long untill the WiiU version is fixed.
Re: Soapbox: Why Grand Theft Auto V Isn't For Me
@element187 Nothing, From my post I dont understand why you got the impression I said there was tbh.
Re: Soapbox: Why Grand Theft Auto V Isn't For Me
Wonder how many (now) GTA haters brought past GTA games and are only declairing thier hatred as its not on WiiU? It wasn't that long ago a lot of people where saying they wanted GTA on WiiU.
Morality in games isn't an issue for me, I'm in my late 30's with kids but at the end of the day games regardless of thier subject matter are a bit of escapism from reality, Just because I do something as a character in a game doesn't change my real life morals. Of course I wouldn't let my children play this. I have parental controls switched on on every device they use/have access to so they don't come across anything I think they shouldn't. Games have Age Ratings, and its upto the parents to ensure thier children are not playing/watching/listening to inappropiate content.
Re: Dan Adelman - Nintendo is "Very Much Aware" of Demand for a Unified Account System
There's Wii to WiiU transfere tool in Wii mode on WiiU (thats a lot of Wii's )
yes you need to have copied your Wii downloads to a SD card but after that you run the app to trasfer your old Wii downloads.
Re: Burnout And Need For Speed Studio Criterion Downsizes To Just 15 People
Of course Alex Ward going to reassure fans.. he won't want to lose his job. But this is a prime example of how EA sonner or later screw everything up they touch.
Criterion, Excel in making great race games, so EA stop them making race games, Downsize the studio to reduce cost... Like that is a great idea.
Good thing EA don't want to support WiiU, there wasn't a decent NFS game for years untill Criterian took over, so now that franchise can sit alongside most of EA's other 'Once was Great' Franchises... all of which won't really be missed on WiiU.
Re: Nintendo Download: 19th September (Europe)
See 1% voted for Game Party Champions.... Seriously dont do it... That game is the definition of WiiU Shovelware... I would be conflicted in recommending that game for a fiver.
Re: Dan Adelman - Nintendo is "Very Much Aware" of Demand for a Unified Account System
Unified Accounts are coming, With plans Nintendo has of activating downloads from PC and tablets its obvious, that sort of system wouldn't work without a unified account, but Nintendo being the way they are we won't find out untill a week before it happens.
As for "We are due a major system update for the Wii U in the coming weeks or months, a final date is yet to be given. " Although No excact date Nintendo already announced end of September/ Begining of October.. as reported here at NL and other sites a while back, so its hardly months away. But I don't think unified accounts are going to be part of that update. I think Nintendo are trying to link 3DS and WiiU closer together in terms of services like Miiverse, and 3DS using the Nintendo id. The latter would be required before they could do a unified account system anyway. (for the 3ds at least).
Re: Talking Point: Marketing Wii U to the Masses
@Stimpy Well thats just stupid on so many levels, not least that WiiU is and has always been designed around the gamepad and if it wasn't then it would have nothing to seperate itself from being the same from any other system on the or coming to the market.
Nintendo has innovated (again) and Dual screen gaming, now Nintendo has shown other how to do it will be common what ever the platform but not done as well because it'll operate as an option extra via your home network rather than directly from the system, as standard.
If it really is such a bad Idea then why is it Activision, EA, Ubisoft, Sony and Microsoft (I'm sure there's a few others to add to that list) are designing games for 360, Xb1, Ps3 and Ps4 that will use your smart phone, Tablet, Smartglass device and Vita to operate as a second screen?
Re: 3DS Reigns in the U.S. for Another Month as Pikmin 3 Sneaks Into the Top 10
@sinalefa Online had/has to be fixed on ALL platforms not just WiiU. The Patch has fixed most problems, Online is still semi-broke... With knowledge of portforwarding, assigning dmz and not running a too strict router firewall it does work online fine.
2nd patch already on its way which should fix online completely on WiiU. (It took 2 and 3 patches on other systems too)
Re: 3DS Reigns in the U.S. for Another Month as Pikmin 3 Sneaks Into the Top 10
@nathanjones007 Its total BS...
Go here:
https://shadownet.splintercell.com/#!/home/single-player
At the top of the page change the region to US, and make sure its set to WiiU. On the bottom right corner of the map wait for the number of registered users to appear. You'll see that the number of registered users isn't great, no getting round that but at just over 16,000 registered users its over 3x more than what http://mynintendonews.com/2013/09/13/npd-splinter-cell-blacklist-wii-u-apparently-accounts-for-less-than-2-of-total-sales/ is implying.
These figures change depending on platform and region, and gives a great indication of Sales performance.
Re: 3DS Reigns in the U.S. for Another Month as Pikmin 3 Sneaks Into the Top 10
@Nintendojoe64 I noticed that, You have to search for the WiiU versions on thier website. Game are doing the special editions along with the standard edition variations on WiiU, but GAME certainly are not promoting the WiiU versions.
As you say the WiiU versions are cheaper than the Ps4 and XB1, and the WiiU is the cheapest system to buy of the 3 you would think they would push the WiiU and its games a bit more.
Re: 3DS Reigns in the U.S. for Another Month as Pikmin 3 Sneaks Into the Top 10
@Peach64 you often cite Actual figures especially when you in Nintendoomed mode... Fact is those less suportive publishers will cite lower sales figures as to why they don't support WiiU, but @wombatkidd is absolutley correct, it's attach rate figures that count, and supportive publishers are looking at those figures not simple sales figures.
By your logic NO new system would ever be supported as sales figures do not reach as high than the systems they are replacing.
Re: Talking Point: Considering the Methods and Means of Game Reviews
@MadAussieBloke Magazine cover disc destroyed that concept... those were the days though. Buying the magazine reading a review of "X" Game seeing the game get 95%, bugging your parents to buy it you or if you were old enough not to rely on parents money go out, buy the game, only to find out 10 minutes after slipping the game cart into the slot the game was rubbish.. and back then you didn't have stores doing trade-in's (or they weren't common place anyway) or ebay.. you were screwed... mainly what you did was try and do a swap with a freind hoping they will give you one of thier good games not knowing about your game being naff.
Re: Talking Point: Considering the Methods and Means of Game Reviews
Scores are irrelevent, Traditional score based reviews should be scrapped these days. One or two people reviewing a game is only an opinion and with every system allowing users to rate games on the store, aswell as most retailers letting customers rate/review games and Miiverse and even social media its easy to find a overall opinion across a large cross section of actual users.
Also although Nintendo seems to lack the number of game demos on estore than other platforms demo's are great way, in conjunction with Miiverse and Social media etc give the most important person, yourself, the chance to form your own opinion about if a game is for you or not.
Re: Wii Karaoke U by JOYSOUND to Threaten Neighbour Relations From 4th October
To me the pay when you want to play makes sense. Take Singstar and the like, yes you pay out right for the game but have limited number of Songs and then you have to buy more to expand the collection and yes unless you want to expand your tracks theres no extra cost... But... You paying for something that for most people only gets used occasionally, once the novelty wears off and eventually you get bored with whats songs you have.
With this you simply pay less than £2 or just over a £5 and you got a hell of a lot of songs for the time period you've paid for ideal for thos occassional uses, like at parties.
Not sure about the monthly fee for those you do regularly play the likes of Singstar, Then its a trade of Monthly cost but more songs but not all you'll like, or Less songs but option to pay for only the songs you like.
Re: Wii U Version of Splinter Cell: Blacklist Gets Patched Up
Ubi have announced earlier looking at issues to create a 2nd patch as soon as possible. Thing is its more down to Netcode and how routers handle the data. I've had no issues since the patch Invites work, joining games etc. However a freind was screaming about how the patch fixed nothing.
But after getting him to put the WiiU into the DMZ on his router he was able to join me but no-one else could join us and he would be dropped if trying to get into a game with others. Found out his router firewall was on, and got him to disable that and then he was able to connect to others without being dropped and others could join him and not just me and others who had already set thier router up just right.
Hopefully the next patch will sort out the need to having your router set up in such a specific way, but at least in the mean time if you know how connection problems can be fixed.
Re: Miiverse Update Allows Activity Feed Posts Outside of Communities
Its going to be usefull to arrange game nights with freinds. Instead of send a message to each freind one post in the activity feed and everyone will see what your trying to arrange.
Re: Leaked Ubisoft Games Confirmed, but Skipping Nintendo Platforms
@PS4WiiU Really you know I hate Sony sooo much, despite owned and owning ps1, ps2, Ps3, Psp, Psvita... and having ps4 on pre-order? ok then..
Fact of matter is When Liberation was realeased Vita had such a small user base, that was the first big push in terms of trying to boost sales with key games, NFS, Liberation, CoD, LBP... Trouble was it didn't work. CoD was a pile of Doggie-Doo and it sold more than Liberation, Hell most of my Vita owning freinds had CoD, NFS, All of them had LBT, yet only 1 bothered getting liberation at launch, and only a couple got it after a while.
Yes % of userbase uptake may have been better for ubisoft thus earning ubi some money compared to other games. but it wasn't the roaring success on Vita your making out, making Ubi huge profits.
WiiU is in no more trouble than Vita, but much like Vita was the system get the negative headlines more often than not Now its the turn of the WiiU.
Re: Leaked Ubisoft Games Confirmed, but Skipping Nintendo Platforms
Most of these games are for tablets. AC-Liberation is obviously aimed at recouping losses on the Vita version, One title is f2p PC and Valiant Hearts is the only one new gane not coming to WiiU.
Looking at it properly, yeh its a bit of a shame No Liberation or Valiant Hearts but its not a major biggie imo... and who knows it seems a trend to announce WiiU versions after others have been announced and I've learned that WiiU versions not being announced is different from a Publisher saying Somethings not going to WiiU. (same for dlc tbh)
Re: Nintendo Download: 12th September (Europe)
Mario Bros & Toki Toki + since its on discount and havn't brought it yet. Still got to get Ducktales aswell.
After buying Toki Toki will have enough Premium reward points to earn £5 so thats something.
Re: Without iOS Support Nintendo "Doesn’t Reach Today’s Kids" Says Apple Advocate John Gruber
@Peach64 My kids dont get what they want 'on demand' and a lot of us parents don't just give our kids what they want.
My eldest 5, wanted an ipad last xmas. stuff that when my phone upgrade came through I got an iPhone and he and his brother shared my old ipod.
My lads wanted a 3DS, as mentioned, Because of the hinges, and partly due to 3D and being under 7 I refused them. My concession is they can ask Santa for a 2DS at christmas.
Just because your friend gives thier kids what they want doesn't mean most parents do.
Re: Without iOS Support Nintendo "Doesn’t Reach Today’s Kids" Says Apple Advocate John Gruber
Really?? My boys share my old ipod, and play throw away apps but only for a few minutes at a time before they are bored. Turn on the WiiU and its a struggle to get them of the thing. From the back of WiiU both have asked for a 3DS, though for my liking I wont buy them a 3DS (i'd give it month before they broke the hinges) so I'm getting both of them a 2DS each at Christmas.
In short, Nintendo don't need iOS/Apple to be able to reach to children, If anything Ios need Nintendo to be able to keep children interested in iOS when get a bit older and realise games can last longer than 5 minutes.
Re: Nintendo UK Preparing Major Advertising Push For Pokémon X & Y and 2DS
Have to agree, Ni tendo Need to ramp up WiiU advertising more. I suppose it depends on which channels you watch as I've personaly seen more WiiU and WiiU game adverts since Pikmin3 released, but thays the problem Ninttendo need to be advertising on Every Mainstream channel.
Re: Wii U TVii App Now Allows You to Doodle on "Your Fave Live TV Moments"
@taffy @Cohort @Marshi @Luffymcduck @madness The official line when asked about EU Nintendo TV 'We are working to bring a similar Nintendo TVii service to Europe however we have nothing to announce at the current time.'
http://www.cubed3.com/news/19517/1/nintendo-comments-on-wii-u-tvii-for-europe.html
M$ had lengthy delays bringing thier media services to EU, With so many countries, licensing laws etc its a much longer and harder process to do in EU than North America.
Its still down as 2013 on Nintendo's website though so we'll see. http://www.nintendo.co.uk/Wii-U/System-Software/Nintendo-TVii/Nintendo-TVii-666625.html
Re: Bethesda: The Time For Convincing Publishers And Developers To Support Wii U Is "Long Past"
It sounds to me Nintendo didn't go to bethesda and tell them what they (Nintendo) are planning, or did but not as much as bethesda wanted and this guys thrown his rattle from the pram tbh.
The amount of on-board developers all saying Nintendo are easy to contact, easy to work with, great to get help and info from (reported here and elsewhere from time to time) makes me think this is just bethesda excusing themselves from developing from WiiU... maybe the old 'not enough sales' excuse is starting to not be valid, especially once the other systems are out I doubt it will be.
Even EA and Nintendo were talking for a while a long time before WiiU launched... or else there would be no e3 2011 announcement of that non-excistent Ninty-EA partnership.
Re: Rayman Legends Sells More Copies In The UK On Wii U Than Any Other Format
Great news that it is I'm slightly worried that this alone won't keep ubisoft or entice other 3rd party publishers to support(ing) WiiU next year.
However well Rayman has done Ubisoft have to take into account how poor the WiiU version of Splintercell has sold compared to other versions and unless Watch_dogs and Blackflag sell well on WiiU Ubisoft will be very selective as to what the do and don't release on WiiU.
Re: Nintendo Has "Nothing To Announce" Regarding Mother 3 Localisation
@readyletsgo Its not that they lie as such more a case not revealing thier cards untill they feel the time is right.
Re: We're Getting Digital Right On 3DS And Wii U, Insists Reggie
@Araknie WiiU has the Nintendo id, which is personalised unique account, and it also link the premium rewards site. For WiiU at least it should be a fairly simple process to make eStore purchases linked to the Nintendo id.
However 3DS still uses the friend code system, and doesn't use Nintendo id and that is where the problem isn't as easily resolved. Nintendo could go straight ahead and unify WiiU purchases but the 3ds owners would be screaming even louder to have unified account linked to purchases. With plans to allow purchasing from eStore via the pc i'm with little doubt at somepoint acoount linked purchasing is on its way but not before 3DS gets a firmware update to allow the Nintendo id system, maybe even getting rid of the current freind code system.
Re: We're Getting Digital Right On 3DS And Wii U, Insists Reggie
@Marshi Yes, except NSMBU cost me £49.99 new from game in store back in january.
Retailers set prices they feel are competitive with thier rivals, eStore, Psn and Xbox Marketplace set prices at rrp (except at time special promo deals arranged with the publisher).
My point being digital purchases are aimed at those who wan't convenience rather than the best deal, main reason being is to keep retailers happy and in business. If eStore etc, set prices that matched or bettered retailers then it would damage the retail side of the industry and the retailers are needed to push and promote systems and games to the general public inc those who may not own system X or even any system.
Re: We're Getting Digital Right On 3DS And Wii U, Insists Reggie
@Damo Sony only started doing that after sales of Vita was so bad with few Ps3 owners adopting the Vita in a effort to increase sales.
MS dont do it already, Windows phones already have a high number of Xbox 360 arcade titles, and even the pc xbox live service shares some of the same games. You use the same gamertag account for all 3 yet you have to purchase the title on All 3 seperatly.
Just because Sony have tried to use cross-platform purchasing doesn't make it the Norm that everyone should do.
Re: We're Getting Digital Right On 3DS And Wii U, Insists Reggie
@Marshi The same price as PsN and Xbl Marketplace also the same price as the rrp set by Ubisoft.
When are people going to learn Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony do not set the prices of 3rd party games wether its at retail or digitally. (also applies to dlc content for 3rd party games also)
Re: Disney Infinity Producer Outlines The Features Available To Wii U Players
@daveh30 Course they can do other playsets and support for addition characters via the dlc route.
Wether they choose to or not is another thing.
Re: Disney Infinity Producer Outlines The Features Available To Wii U Players
Me & The missus have brought this towards the kids christmas presents and will be picking up playsets over the next few months.
We've both had a little look at the game, or games really as it depends on the character/s and the toybox mode and both of use came away feeling it's a game with massive potential over skylanders and both actually look forward to playing it along with the kids.
Re: "No Plans" For Ambassador Program Following Wii U Price Cut
@rjejr Quite easily, it's always a gamble when you wait to buy a system down the line. No company is going to declair they will be cutting the price untill they feel they have to as sales would plumit as people would wait untill the price cut before purchasing. Nintendo have already had comments about the price cut announcment and the length of time before it takes effect, and quite rightly, its pointless making the announcment untill a couple of weeks before it due to take place as it stems sales. When ever a price cut is announced there's always going to be some people buying the system a day before the announcment, disaponting- yes, frustrating- yes but its a part of life as a gamer, and its a situation that applies to every system and any electronic device, phone and just about every other product you can purchase regardless of manufacturer.
This price cut is timed about right for Nintendo, The 'Summer Update' is due end of september/Begining October, Windwaker is being released and comes in a limited edition WiiU bundle, it's also nearly a year after the systems launch and at a time when more recognisable Nintendo franchises are close to release.
Re: "No Plans" For Ambassador Program Following Wii U Price Cut
The closer to launch you buy a system the more you pay/Less you get for the price, regardless of system this has always been they fact of the matter.
With 3DS the price cut was more severe and only a few months after it launched not nearly a year and in that (untill then) unprecidented situation it was obvious some sort of refund for early adoptors was needed. This WiiU price reduction is not the same situation as the 3DS in anyway and I totaly agree with Nintendo on this even though I paid full price back in January.
What next, when the RRP of a game gets a cut in price from a publisher (e.g: Ac3) then DLC should be given to those who brought the game at launch?
In the end the early adoptors, especially those who get a system at launch should realise that at or around a year after launch a price cut or better value bundle will be offered, the same will happen with Ps4, Xb1 and any future system released beyond that.
Re: Nintendo Confirms Wii U "Price Reduction Initiative" in Europe from 4th October
When are People going to get it in thier heads Price adjustments at about a year after launch IS NORMAL.
I brought a band new TV when it first launched, 6 months later the manufacturer cut its RRP so does that mean they should of offered be free subscription to Netflix or something accessable via the tv? NO.
Anyone buying a new system at launch or withing 8-12 months knows they will be paying more or getting less in the package than those who decide to hold off.. the sane as anyone buy a WiiU this christmas will pay more than those who wait till next christmas.
Re: Wii U Deluxe Model Gets Official $50 Price Cut in North America
At Almost a year after launch there is no need for 'compensation' due to the price cut. except to feed peoples greed. Most tech geta a price reduction at almost a year after it originally launched. 3DS's price cut was a much bigger % and was done not that long after the system launch so it was justifyable for people to complain, this time round its not justifyable.
Nintendo has done the right thing, with big releases coming out recently and soon putting a full $100 buffer between the WiiU and Ps4, and $200 to the XB1will certainly make it look more attractive to potential consumers.
Re: Say Hello To The Nintendo 2DS - A 3DS without 3D
Actually the price point, not having to account for the 3D screen makes this a viable option to those of us who have trouble with 3D images. Yes you can simply turn off the 3D on a 3DS but why should I have to pay extra for tech that I simply can't/wont use. The only thing I don't like is the open design, I would of prefered Nintendo made it fold like the 3DS to protect the screens when not in use. Also I'm assuming the screen is the sime size and rez as the standard 3DS.
Of it folded ans was XL size then I'd of probably got this at launch.
Re: Talking Point: The Wii U's Limited Hard Drive Space and Future Install Headaches
@Zup Yes youcan go i to data managment and go into the game files for the game you want to delete. You'll see The game, And save files seperatly and maybe a file for patches and dlc. Just delete the files you want to. If you wanted you can even plug in a WiiU format a flash stick and copy you save/s to that for back-up.
Re: Talking Point: The Wii U's Limited Hard Drive Space and Future Install Headaches
@SCAR392 Just tested- You can run games/apps from both 1 hdd and the internal memory simultaneously. However when you have two usb storage devices a message tells you that you can manage data between devices. You get 2 options one being cancel the other to take you to data managment. By canceling you then get a message telling you only one usb storage can be in use at a time. then the system reboots the main menu, presumably to give you time to disconnect one of the devices.
So no unfortunatley no dual HDD use, at the moment at least, even just for memory data due to the way the OS detects usb storage.
I used my 2tb HDD and a 2gb Flash Stick for the test
Btw.. might see if thats possible, I can copy a VC title to my flash stick and take to my cousins see if the game loads up on his WiiU.. but depends on drm and how its handled, be good to know if although purchases are linked to hardware wether the actual hdd is what the drm is linked to rather than the WiiU, I very much doubt it,as it seems very open to game sharing if thats the case.
Re: Talking Point: The Wii U's Limited Hard Drive Space and Future Install Headaches
@SCAR392 You can only play from 1 hdd at anytime upto 2tb. However you can connect 2 hdd's each upto 2tb to copy/move data either as backup or when expanding your storage. i.e 1tb upgrade to 2tb.
Thats how I understood it from the firmware notes anyway.
Re: Talking Point: The Wii U's Limited Hard Drive Space and Future Install Headaches
People seem to of forget the reasons why the 360 was enabled via firmware to install from disc... to reduce risk of RROD.
People Also forget Why Ps3 has so many forced installs or optional Texture installs... Because the data transfer rate from Bluray is extremely slow (6mbps I believe) and is to help with game load speeds, late texture loading common in a lot of early Ps3 games.
Re: Talking Point: The Wii U's Limited Hard Drive Space and Future Install Headaches
Whats ironic is that with compulsary installs, patches, dlc etc, etc the ps4/xb1's 500gb internal storage is nothing. My Ps3 320gb was filled in less than a year. Also as these are all internal drives if you want to upgrade its a lot more of a chore than simply plugging in a usb HDD (or a second hdd) and copying content across 'like you can with the WiiU. Yes its a shame WiiU doesn't have Usb3.0 ports but overall giving the general 32gb as standard but making it easy to upgrade storage is the best option.
Tbh there's no reason via firmware update that an option to install from disc can't appear on WiiU, and even without a firmware update optional install packages could be included in games if the developers wanted to go that route on WiiU.
Re: The Wonderful 101 Misses the Top 20 in UK All-Format Charts
@Cohort No, but it is individual retail game sales on each platform. Basically the 'fails to reach top twenty charts' refered to here has W101 going against games out on multiple platforms.
With the lower install base, and obviously being only on WiiU being at 22nd in the all formats chart probably isn't that bad.
Re: The Wonderful 101 Misses the Top 20 in UK All-Format Charts
Its listed as 14th in the individual game charts:
http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110032
Whats really bad is although WiiU Disney Infinity got to 24th in the individual charts, The WiiU version of Splintercell didn't even get into the top 40... Start saying bye bye to Ubisoft supporting WiiU.
Re: Splinter Cell Blacklist Wii U Version's Performance Put Under the Spotlight
Strange as my Self confessed Sony fanboy brother-in-law said the My WiiU version looks and Plays better than his Ps3 version and I've heard simular comments about the 360 version 2nd hand.
As for frame drops... I've yet to notice any tbh, and in absolutly no way has there been any screen tearing. I do have my TV set to Game Mode though so maybe thats why even though from disc at least some load times are quite long but not game breaking and not even as long as Lego City.
Partnter or Not with NL, I've given Eurogamer a Wide-birth for years there just as much fanboy bias there as IGN, so maybe this analysis should be taken with just a dash of salt.
Re: Review: Rayman Legends (Wii U)
@ricklongo I did it seems, I'm not suggesting people buy games that arn't upto scratch or buy games for the sake of it being a 3rd party title.
My original comment was to those who are saying 'if it wasn't delayed or gone multi-platform'... or simply holding out because in a couple of months time another simular game is out but published by Nintendo.
To be fair its a culture with Nintendo owners that been built up over years, since N64, with Nintendo not getting the 3rd party support. Where most Nintendo Owners simply don't bother with 3rd party games, and when they think they can use a excuse other than It not Nintendo they will use it. Big shame For WiiU because while this attitude continues there is little chance of current supportive 3rd party publishers staying supportive or convincing other publishers who are staying away to try publishing on the WiiU.
Whats makes it more frustrating is that the same people not buying 3rd party games, or saying they will buy it on X system instead are the same people ranting when publishers drops the WiiU, or skips a game or cuts content to save costs. A lot of WiiU owners need to learn its a two way street and consumers and publishers need to meet each other in the middle.
Of course there is a minority out there who buy 1st and 3rd party titles purly on the basis of which games apeal to them the most, but that minority needs to become the majority.
Re: Review: Rayman Legends (Wii U)
@ricklongo Course it is, by your logic Publishers should release on which ever platform, regardless of profit losses dur to people not buying thier games.
Key to any business operating in a healthy manner is supply & demand if theres no demand for a product then there's no need to supply a product, the heavier the demand then the more as a business you try to meet that demand and offer more.
Re: Review: Rayman Legends (Wii U)
Far too many people still acting like children about going multi platform.. it really is sad
Also a big shame that despite getting great reviews, having upto 5 players for local co-op, challenges and being a gorgeous looking 1080p true hd game with exclusive levels and content that so many people are still not willing to suport Ubisoft by buying this game, and waiting for a first party title not out for a while yet.
Thing is all you people not supporting 3rd party developers, especially those like ubisoft or have been and want to continue supporting the WiiU will be on here ranting and complaining about Ubisoft when they stop supporting WiiU.
But quite frankly.. Who's fault is it when people simply wont buy any games they release regardless of how good they are... not Ubisofts thats for sure.
Re: Nintendo Download: 29th August (Europe)
@DESS-M-8 Tbh, I brought Splintercell on Disc £20 cheaper than the eStore price (it is same price digitally on all platforms btw) but now having played it there is a lot of game content packed into Splintercell.
The real test of Splintercell full RRP value will be known once we know how much game content is contained within Rayman for its lower rrp.
Watch_dogs and AC Blackflag will be set at £49.99/£54.99 rrp for all platforms standard edition. Be suprised if not but these sort of games have high price tags and not just Ubi games. CoD games rrp are always at the £50 mark and even ps3 version of NFSMW was £59.99 rrp at launch.
Having said that I remember my parents paying £39.99 for Moon Patrol for the Atari2600 in the early 80's from Toys-r-Us so if the new standard price is £50 thats only a rise of £10 on about 30yrs