@GloryQuestor a couple things to point out here. First, if it sells low, then Nintendo won't put it at the top of a priority in the future on Switch, believing that the fans don't want it. Second, even if it's a cheap/quick development, for every dollar taken and for every second spent is just another dollar and another second that could be used on making Switch games. Don't forget too that Nintendo is also making mobile games (DeNA is handling the service portion- the updates and actually maintaining the servers), so they're splitting themselves incredibly thin right now with Switch, 3DS AND mobile. It's why we don't have Metroid Prime 4, it's why we don't have Yoshi, it's probably why we don't have Animal Crossing. As long as 3DS stays around, it continues to take away from Switch, and prevents Iwata's desire for Switch and mobile to be the future.
@Natzore sadly, Nintendo seems to be just as ignorant about it as their blind fanboys are. Did you see the supplementary report they published in April? They said- true story, the main reason the 3DS game sales are dropping so rapidly is because of hackers. Like seriously, they think people hacking the device is preventing new games from selling millions and millions of copies. They've got to be the stupidest company if they really think that, because like it was pointed out earlier there's no chance they have a 70 million userbase, there are just too many variants of this thing with many, MANY, MANY people buying 2 (or 8 in the case of many youtubers). It's like why can't Nintendo understand when you're selling the same system to the same people over and over, unless those same people buy the same number of copies of a game, you're instead wasting money? For instance if I buy like 12 3DS systems, but only like 36 games, I've just lowered the attach rate to 3 game per system, when in reality I bought 36 total games! That's why the thing has a pathetic attach rate, and blind fanboys (especially on this site) say that it's really 72 million people, and they only buy like 5 or 6 games for it (mostly Pokemon)- yeah, like that's really the case, instead of really about 30 million users who bought 2 systems, and they bought about 12 games on average, but it then lowers to 6 when doing the math!
I'll just be happy once they finally get their heads out of their butt, and follow every other developer like Square, Level-5, Atlus, Game Freak, and move their development from 3DS to Switch, because there are many 1st party franchises begging for a Switch release, and they refuse to do so, because the 10 active 3DS users keep being so vocal online about wanting new games- hence why new 3DS releases keep bombing on the charts (Wario Ware couldn't even crack the top 20 overall!).
You knew they'd have to, because there are many Mario/Zelda fans who already have it that are also Smash fans, so they're trying to get more special editions to push that install base- of course that also starts skewing it when they go overboard like they did on 3DS where so many variants/special editions means the average owner has like 3 of them, instead of just 1...
"acting as the final game of the series on Nintendo 3DS" so you mean a developer is moving a franchise from the 3DS to the Switch like Game Freak, Atlus, Level 5, Square and others? But you fanboys say that Switch isn't the successor for 3DS, yet all these developers continue to say they're moving from 3DS to Switch. Rather interesting that a system that's not supposed to be the successor has had numerous developers say they're moving to it from the previous system. Hmmmmm...
Look fanboys, whether you want to admit it or not the Switch IS the 3DS's successor, Pokemon moving proves it! The Switch WILL get a smaller/cheaper remake and THAT will be the thing that officially is Nintendo's way of saying they've made the Switch the 3DS's successor.
PHEW! Thankfully, Switch is a home system, so you can only play it at home (as fanboys continually said, since this isn't the 3DS's successor, despite Pokemon moving to it), because this would be scary if this were playable on a handheld system!!
Wait, fanboys say it's IMPOSSIBLE for 3DS games to be ported to Switch, that Switch is only the successor for Wii U, not the successor for 3DS (despite Pokemon actually moving from 3DS to Switch), so this means that porting a 3DS game is actually possible, and that Switch is the successor for 3DS as well? Huh, who'd have thought it? Oh, everyone with a brain!!
@0muros it's still ND Cube making them, so don't get your hopes too high, they're still the ones behind 9, 10 and of course every Animal Crossing fan's favorite game- Amiibo Festival!!
Wow, Reggie was right, Nintendo does have a ton of new games! Oh, these aren't by Nintendo? They're indies? What the hell then?? So much for believing Lying Reggie! Look, fall is like 1 month from today, if they were going to release these massive amounts of games in the fall, they'd have shown them already!!
Sega was Sega's problem. To give you an idea what Sega was really like, ONLY GENESIS OUTSOLD THE WII U!! Think about that. More Wii U's in the world than Master System's. More Wii U's than Saturn's. More Wii U's than Dreamcast (like over 50% more too). So, Sega never really did compete, their flash in the pan was 1991 to 1993 with Sonic. After they started shooting themselves in the foot with the CD, the 32X, and the horrible launch of Saturn, they never were going to regain what they had in the early-90's. They should have kept Genesis alone, maybe just gone with the CD, but the 32X was definitely too far, especially with Saturn around the corner.
@thesilverbrick that's what I want to know! If the Wii U was the next Virtual Boy as fanboys say, then that means they sold over 10 million Virtual Boys, so it should be on this list.
They've also got Wii U games on sale, which is nice given Wii U is still seeing new games by indies (and a couple 3rd parties- namely the Just Dance series by Ubisoft).
@MrGlubGlub totally agree! It also doesn't help when moronic fanboys continually buy all- ALL the stuff they release no questions asked, but they also believe their lies too (like lying about Wii U not being discontinued, then like a couple months later say it's actually true after all, or the DS not replacing GBA as their main handheld). I stopped believing anything Nintendo says, because they've got a king of PR as their NOA rep, and good god can he spin lies!
@TJSpyke he should just find a way to allow it to play past games, no need for emulation, and can then sell it- Retrocon or whatever those handheld systems are the play them are apparently legal to sell, because they use different internals than the machines originally did (some kind of loophole similar to how Coleco was able to allow Colecovision to play Atari 2600 games).
Yet somehow Nintendo fanboys insist that 3rd party games aren't included with the million sellers list because they KNOW they're million sellers from 3rd parties, despite no confirmation from Nintendo nor the actual developer of them that they have surpassed 1 million copies (a very noteworthy mark that every developer normally touts). Hmmmmmm...
> Switch shipments were down 4.5% YoY, which is hardly a significant drop off at all. Even PS4 shipments were down YoY despite God of War's massive launch...Guess that makes it a flop too??
Well, let's see, the Switch is supposed to SURPASS what it did the year prior, and it's already BEHIND, so what do you think?
> Pokemon Let's Go will be huge. Can't believe why people think otherwise.
Show me a SPIN-OFF Pokemon game that has EVER been a system seller. Why do you fanboys ASSume that the 10's of millions who bought MAINLINE Pokemon are suddenly going to support this?
> 3DS sell-through in America is up YoY, while 3DS shipments in America are down YoY. Sell-through != Shipments.
Nope, try again, the sales are DOWN according to NPD, you fanboys are insanely gullible! In fact since you'll believe anything, I've got really cheap land in the middle of the ocean for you. As gullible as you are, you actually believed me!
@NEStalgia but they don't spend the $800 at one time, it's nickel and dimed there- that's how apps work, they make the person think "oh, it's only $1, I can pay that" or "oh, it's only $2, I'll pay it" then it adds up. Asking for them to bite off that massive amount at one time is a major bite, that's why when the 3DS surged during Pokemon Go, it wasn't the $150 3DS that surged, it was the $80 2DS. It's all about mindset, playing a game nickel and diming people is a FAR easier sell than trying to convince them of a giant bite (that's one reason why Switch hardware was down year-on-year from the quarterly report).
@Mrtoad and to answer more clearly, if the game doesn't sell 1 million within the fiscal year, it doesn't get listed, 1 million is the threshold, so unless it somehow manages to outsell 1st party Nintendo games on a Nintendo system, the fiscal year 1 million sales is the only way it's going to get listed. Lego City Undercover proves it, selling just over 1 million units in a fiscal year for 3DS.
@Mrtoad I had to go back digging through Nintendo's financial report- all the way back to 2014, but here on the list of million selling 3DS games is listed Lego, proving that Nintendo does indeed reveal 3rd party games when they reach 1 million. Link to proof: https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2014/140508e.pdf
And to say why is because they didn't sell 1 million copies, Lego did, and is listed, others within the fiscal year didn't.
@MoonKnight7 yes, and no. Yes, it's a system seller, but to a VERY specific demographic (Japanese females). The highest sales for every handheld variant have come from Japan, and something like 70% of that group is female. That's why when Kimishima said they needed to find a way to sell Switch to more Japanese females, it's like uh, Iwata knew how to do it- MAKE A DAM ANIMAL CROSSING GAME!!
@Mrtoad yeah, they do if they sell 1 million copies, but as you see, the highest selling games on Nintendo systems are Nintendo owned IP's. That's just the way it is, people buy Nintendo systems for Nintendo games, not 3rd party games, and that's why they don't sell, which is why they don't get listed in the top 10.
In fairness, it's VERY unlikely that Switch will meet the goals- even Nintendo themselves came out and said it will be very difficult, especially with Switch now pacing BEHIND last year, let alone why fanboys insist that a spinoff Pokemon game is going to somehow push more systems than Odyssey and Zelda did, or the fact that the game is also aimed at those who don't ordinarily spend $300 on systems. Oh, and for Smash, how well did that push Wii U systems after it came out on it? Just because it sells 5 million games doesn't mean it sold 5 million systems, because there's always crossover. System sellers are big hitters like Zelda, Mario, ones where people purposely don't get until it comes out (MAINLINE Pokemon, not a spinoff).
@Fandabidozi that's the problem as well, these numbers are no doubt skewed because unlike the Switch version, you need multiple carts/downloads to have multiple towns. Switch won't need multiple carts, you can have like 8 accounts on the same system, so by Nintendo waiting like this, newcomers who got New Leaf after the Pocket Camp buzz, and decided they didn't like it would not get the Switch version- basically this means that Switch won't surpass its handheld predecessors for a multitude of reasons (primarily the multicart like Pokemon).
@Silly_G exactly. It took 3 New Leaf releases (original, Select, Welcome Amiibo) as well as a revitalization from the mobile app before it finally could surpass it. Oh, not to mention that the gap between games has been FAR longer than the just 3 years between Wild World and City Folk.
3DS? Oh, you mean Switch's predecessor, which because Nintendo refuses what the market is saying is leading to Switch's decline- before you fanboys argue, imagine Wario Ware on Switch instead of 3DS. There wouldn't be this game drought on Switch right now, and you wouldn't be seeing this sales DECLINE like it has now either. I rest my case...
@NewAdvent they're already behind as reported today, and why is a spin-off suddenly going to do what no other spin-off did, or why is a game that didn't do it for Wii U suddenly going to do it for Switch? We're talking NEW owners, not existing ones buying the games!
@Folkloner Nintendo (and especially their fanboys) can't accept that the 3DS is really a dead system, that only got popular in 2016 because of the Pokemon halo. Once that wore off, and Switch came out, the market is showing there's really no interest in 3DS. The games are where Nintendo makes their money, yet lying Reggie, and gullible fanboys, keep saying how "well" 3DS is doing, because of hardware sales, which are skewed too, because of how many models and special editions are bought up by collectors and scalpers. The true install base of 3DS is massively low (proven by the horrible attach rate), not to mention that financially the 3DS dropped like 80% in revenue- what that means is that compared to this time last year, it's only making about 20% of what it made during the same time period. Clearly the market sees Switch as the successor whether or not lying Reggie and gullible fanboys want to admit it or not. Oh, and why lying Reggie? Because he said in June that 3DS hardware sales were up in America, but their quarterly report shows it's not only down worldwide, but in America it was over 50% LOWER, not up!
Reggie is a flat out LIAR!! Their quarterly report came out today, and 3DS isn't up in America, they went from selling 420,000 units for this period in 2017 to 200,000 in America in 2018, that's a DECREASE Reggie, not an increase, and you fanboys are eating up his lies!!! Check it out yourself: https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2018/180731e.pdf
" Switch 2 in 2023" more like Switch Lite, there's no way Switch only gets a 5 year lifespan, they've set it up for it to get 7 or 8 before its successor comes out- even Kimishima and Miyamoto said Nintendo wants more than 5 years like Wii U got.
@Nincompoop only bundled games made them $1 billion, because their highest selling game unbundled was SMB 3, and at $50 a pop (before sales decreases over time), it only sold 18 million, meaning it fell short of $1 billion.
Anyone notice that BOTW on Wii U outsold TP on GC? Shows that GC and Wii U were really, REALLY similar on many, MANY levels. Both were considered commercial failures during their times, both lost 3rd party support, both were followed by massive successors, both had exclusives ported to their successor(s). The GC is as much a "failure" to Nintendo as Wii U was.
HEY, FANBOYS! Switch is DOWN year-on-year sales, not up!! Told you so, told you so, told you SO!! Who was right? Who was right? I WAS RIGHT!! Told you sales were DOWN, because NPD kept saying PS4 was topping the monthly charts, NOT Switch!! You all said Switch was higher than last year, but Nintendo's report today shows it LOWER year-on-year! Good luck with a SPINOFF Pokemon game, and a game that didn't push many Wii U's pushing Switch systems! Fanboys want to know why Switch owners want 3DS dead, THIS is why, if they didn't spend time/money making 3DS games, then they wouldn't have Switch droughts right now, and Switch sales wouldn't be lower, they'd probably be up! Kimishima has seriously screwed up Nintendo by refusing to merge 3DS development into Switch, because if Wario Ware were on Switch instead of 3DS, we'd have just another game to keep its momentum, not to mention higher sales of the game as the 3DS was massively down (like 70%) year-on-year! It was DOWN nearly 50% in America as well, proving Reggie Fils-Aime is a flat out liar who said 3DS sales were up in America- if they're up Reggie, why did it go from 420,000 in 2017 to 200,000 in 2018?? Does he count backwards?
Eh, that's how you know Nintendo has pushed the 3DS too far now, they waited so long that they've just lost one of the main contributors to the series, because instead of using the mobile app to push a Switch version, they used it to push more New Leaf copies. Sure, that helps the 3DS, but it's also on a $20 game on an $80 system, instead of selling $60 games on $300 systems. By the time the Switch one does come out the hype from the mobile app will be gone...
@SpaceboyScreams no chance, there's no chance they already have it finished, because look at the major gaps between big games RIGHT NOW! If they had finished games they were sitting on, there would NOT be major gaps between big games.
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Re: Poor Old Wario Had Just Two Days To Top The NPD Game Charts In July
@GloryQuestor a couple things to point out here. First, if it sells low, then Nintendo won't put it at the top of a priority in the future on Switch, believing that the fans don't want it. Second, even if it's a cheap/quick development, for every dollar taken and for every second spent is just another dollar and another second that could be used on making Switch games. Don't forget too that Nintendo is also making mobile games (DeNA is handling the service portion- the updates and actually maintaining the servers), so they're splitting themselves incredibly thin right now with Switch, 3DS AND mobile. It's why we don't have Metroid Prime 4, it's why we don't have Yoshi, it's probably why we don't have Animal Crossing. As long as 3DS stays around, it continues to take away from Switch, and prevents Iwata's desire for Switch and mobile to be the future.
Re: Poor Old Wario Had Just Two Days To Top The NPD Game Charts In July
@Natzore sadly, Nintendo seems to be just as ignorant about it as their blind fanboys are. Did you see the supplementary report they published in April? They said- true story, the main reason the 3DS game sales are dropping so rapidly is because of hackers. Like seriously, they think people hacking the device is preventing new games from selling millions and millions of copies. They've got to be the stupidest company if they really think that, because like it was pointed out earlier there's no chance they have a 70 million userbase, there are just too many variants of this thing with many, MANY, MANY people buying 2 (or 8 in the case of many youtubers). It's like why can't Nintendo understand when you're selling the same system to the same people over and over, unless those same people buy the same number of copies of a game, you're instead wasting money? For instance if I buy like 12 3DS systems, but only like 36 games, I've just lowered the attach rate to 3 game per system, when in reality I bought 36 total games! That's why the thing has a pathetic attach rate, and blind fanboys (especially on this site) say that it's really 72 million people, and they only buy like 5 or 6 games for it (mostly Pokemon)- yeah, like that's really the case, instead of really about 30 million users who bought 2 systems, and they bought about 12 games on average, but it then lowers to 6 when doing the math!
Re: Rumour: Switch Firmware Update 6.0.0 Is Imminent, Dataminers Uncover The Details
I'll just be happy once they finally get their heads out of their butt, and follow every other developer like Square, Level-5, Atlus, Game Freak, and move their development from 3DS to Switch, because there are many 1st party franchises begging for a Switch release, and they refuse to do so, because the 10 active 3DS users keep being so vocal online about wanting new games- hence why new 3DS releases keep bombing on the charts (Wario Ware couldn't even crack the top 20 overall!).
Re: id Software "Still Uncertain" If Rage 2 Would Ever Work On Nintendo Switch
Just wait until New Switch Lite with the Tegra X2 comes out, that should be able to run it.
Re: A Brand New Purple And Silver New Nintendo 2DS XL Is Coming To North America
When they have a game that launched in 2011 as a selling point, you KNOW it has a weak release lineup now!
Re: A Brand New Purple And Silver New Nintendo 2DS XL Is Coming To North America
@thesilverbrick Bank exists, so that's going to be their plan going forward.
Re: Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Special Edition Controller And Game Bundle Revealed
You knew they'd have to, because there are many Mario/Zelda fans who already have it that are also Smash fans, so they're trying to get more special editions to push that install base- of course that also starts skewing it when they go overboard like they did on 3DS where so many variants/special editions means the average owner has like 3 of them, instead of just 1...
Re: Etrian Odyssey Nexus Announced For Nintendo 3DS In The West, Available February 2019
"acting as the final game of the series on Nintendo 3DS" so you mean a developer is moving a franchise from the 3DS to the Switch like Game Freak, Atlus, Level 5, Square and others? But you fanboys say that Switch isn't the successor for 3DS, yet all these developers continue to say they're moving from 3DS to Switch. Rather interesting that a system that's not supposed to be the successor has had numerous developers say they're moving to it from the previous system. Hmmmmm...
Look fanboys, whether you want to admit it or not the Switch IS the 3DS's successor, Pokemon moving proves it! The Switch WILL get a smaller/cheaper remake and THAT will be the thing that officially is Nintendo's way of saying they've made the Switch the 3DS's successor.
Re: Home Sweet Home Will Scare The Stuffing Out Of Your Switch
PHEW! Thankfully, Switch is a home system, so you can only play it at home (as fanboys continually said, since this isn't the 3DS's successor, despite Pokemon moving to it), because this would be scary if this were playable on a handheld system!!
Re: Remakes Of Langrisser I And II Are Switch-Bound
Wait, fanboys say it's IMPOSSIBLE for 3DS games to be ported to Switch, that Switch is only the successor for Wii U, not the successor for 3DS (despite Pokemon actually moving from 3DS to Switch), so this means that porting a 3DS game is actually possible, and that Switch is the successor for 3DS as well? Huh, who'd have thought it? Oh, everyone with a brain!!
Re: Nintendo Reveals Super Mario Party Joy-Con Bundle For Europe
@0muros it's still ND Cube making them, so don't get your hopes too high, they're still the ones behind 9, 10 and of course every Animal Crossing fan's favorite game- Amiibo Festival!!
Re: Video: Check Out The 2018 Indie Highlights For Switch Video Right Here
Wow, Reggie was right, Nintendo does have a ton of new games! Oh, these aren't by Nintendo? They're indies? What the hell then?? So much for believing Lying Reggie! Look, fall is like 1 month from today, if they were going to release these massive amounts of games in the fall, they'd have shown them already!!
Re: Video: Get a First Look at Monster Hunter Generations Ultimate Running on Nintendo Switch
@sword_9mm
Re: Every Single Pokémon Starter Is Getting A Brand New Official Plush Toy
@paihia think about the kinds of sales they'd have done if they released them in 2016 when Go was capturing the world!
Re: Sega Wanted To Impress Nintendo With F-Zero GX, Despite Losing The Hardware War
Sega was Sega's problem. To give you an idea what Sega was really like, ONLY GENESIS OUTSOLD THE WII U!! Think about that. More Wii U's in the world than Master System's. More Wii U's than Saturn's. More Wii U's than Dreamcast (like over 50% more too). So, Sega never really did compete, their flash in the pan was 1991 to 1993 with Sonic. After they started shooting themselves in the foot with the CD, the 32X, and the horrible launch of Saturn, they never were going to regain what they had in the early-90's. They should have kept Genesis alone, maybe just gone with the CD, but the 32X was definitely too far, especially with Saturn around the corner.
Re: Nintendo Shares Image Of Super Mario Bros. 3 In Action On Switch
@Angelic_Lapras_King with the advent of youtube, what's the point?
Re: Pokémon Go Returns To Top Of The Charts On US iOS App Store
A bit misleading, it's number 1 in revenue, not number 1 in downloads, which as you said in the article the player base "dwindled".
Re: Nintendo Has Sold Over 700 Million Video Game Consoles To Date
@TsukiDeity that isn't a final total though, Wii U games are still around (for example Just Dance 2019).
Re: Nintendo Has Sold Over 700 Million Video Game Consoles To Date
@thesilverbrick that's what I want to know! If the Wii U was the next Virtual Boy as fanboys say, then that means they sold over 10 million Virtual Boys, so it should be on this list.
Re: The Euro Nintendo Summer Sale Continues With Up To 80% Off Lots Of Switch And 3DS Games
They've also got Wii U games on sale, which is nice given Wii U is still seeing new games by indies (and a couple 3rd parties- namely the Just Dance series by Ubisoft).
Re: Nintendo Confirms Switch Online Service Will Launch In Second Half Of September
@MrGlubGlub totally agree! It also doesn't help when moronic fanboys continually buy all- ALL the stuff they release no questions asked, but they also believe their lies too (like lying about Wii U not being discontinued, then like a couple months later say it's actually true after all, or the DS not replacing GBA as their main handheld). I stopped believing anything Nintendo says, because they've got a king of PR as their NOA rep, and good god can he spin lies!
Re: Meet The Nintendo Snack Pack, A Fan-Made Portable TV With Built-In Retro Games
@TJSpyke he should just find a way to allow it to play past games, no need for emulation, and can then sell it- Retrocon or whatever those handheld systems are the play them are apparently legal to sell, because they use different internals than the machines originally did (some kind of loophole similar to how Coleco was able to allow Colecovision to play Atari 2600 games).
Re: Game Freak Says Pokémon Let's Go Pikachu And Eevee May Be Forward Compatible
@Silly_G unless you used Super Game Boy or Game Boy Player, you've never seen Pokemon on a screen larger than 6"
Re: Super Mario Odyssey Passes The 10 Million Sold Marker
@moavi sad thing is those numbers are crazy unreliable, that's why VGChartz is listed as an unreliable source.
Re: Nintendo Switch Only Accounted For 7% Of Ubisoft's Yearly Revenue
Yet somehow Nintendo fanboys insist that 3rd party games aren't included with the million sellers list because they KNOW they're million sellers from 3rd parties, despite no confirmation from Nintendo nor the actual developer of them that they have surpassed 1 million copies (a very noteworthy mark that every developer normally touts). Hmmmmmm...
Re: Nintendo Releases Complete Sales Figures For Its Million-Selling Switch Games
@westman98
> Switch shipments were down 4.5% YoY, which is hardly a significant drop off at all. Even PS4 shipments were down YoY despite God of War's massive launch...Guess that makes it a flop too??
Well, let's see, the Switch is supposed to SURPASS what it did the year prior, and it's already BEHIND, so what do you think?
> Pokemon Let's Go will be huge. Can't believe why people think otherwise.
Show me a SPIN-OFF Pokemon game that has EVER been a system seller. Why do you fanboys ASSume that the 10's of millions who bought MAINLINE Pokemon are suddenly going to support this?
> 3DS sell-through in America is up YoY, while 3DS shipments in America are down YoY. Sell-through != Shipments.
Nope, try again, the sales are DOWN according to NPD, you fanboys are insanely gullible! In fact since you'll believe anything, I've got really cheap land in the middle of the ocean for you. As gullible as you are, you actually believed me!
Re: Nintendo Releases Complete Sales Figures For Its Million-Selling Switch Games
@westman98
"The list only contains 1st party games.
Skyrim is a million seller on Switch. Doom is not."
Source from Bethesda where it says it surpassed 1 million?
Re: Nintendo Releases Complete Sales Figures For Its Million-Selling Switch Games
@ekwcll people still aren't buying it though. Take with a grain of salt, but either way, it's not doing as well as people are led to believe: https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2018/04/the_switch_port_of_bayonetta_2_has_outsold_its_sister_version_on_wii_u
Unless it somehow managed to sell over 500,000 copies suddenly, it's going to fail to make the list.
Re: NPD Predicts Switch Will Be 2018's Best-Selling Console Despite PS4's Current Lead
@NEStalgia but they don't spend the $800 at one time, it's nickel and dimed there- that's how apps work, they make the person think "oh, it's only $1, I can pay that" or "oh, it's only $2, I'll pay it" then it adds up. Asking for them to bite off that massive amount at one time is a major bite, that's why when the 3DS surged during Pokemon Go, it wasn't the $150 3DS that surged, it was the $80 2DS. It's all about mindset, playing a game nickel and diming people is a FAR easier sell than trying to convince them of a giant bite (that's one reason why Switch hardware was down year-on-year from the quarterly report).
Re: The Top 10 Best-Selling Nintendo 3DS Games (As Of June 2018)
@Mrtoad good job showing everyone how ignorance can be cured, but stupidity cannot.
Re: The Top 10 Best-Selling Nintendo 3DS Games (As Of June 2018)
@Mrtoad huh, so a game on Wii U, PS4 and XBox was published by NINTENDO, huh, try again yourself. DEVELOPER=party, not publisher. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lego_City_Undercover
Oh, and what is the title of this again? It's A THIRD PARTY GAME, PUBLISHER DOESN'T MEAN DEVELOPER, PUBLISHER IS PLATFORM!!
https://www.polygon.com/2017/3/27/15078334/lego-city-undercover-download-size-nintendo-switch
Re: The Top 10 Best-Selling Nintendo 3DS Games (As Of June 2018)
@Mrtoad and to answer more clearly, if the game doesn't sell 1 million within the fiscal year, it doesn't get listed, 1 million is the threshold, so unless it somehow manages to outsell 1st party Nintendo games on a Nintendo system, the fiscal year 1 million sales is the only way it's going to get listed. Lego City Undercover proves it, selling just over 1 million units in a fiscal year for 3DS.
Re: The Top 10 Best-Selling Nintendo 3DS Games (As Of June 2018)
@Mrtoad I had to go back digging through Nintendo's financial report- all the way back to 2014, but here on the list of million selling 3DS games is listed Lego, proving that Nintendo does indeed reveal 3rd party games when they reach 1 million. Link to proof: https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2014/140508e.pdf
And to say why is because they didn't sell 1 million copies, Lego did, and is listed, others within the fiscal year didn't.
Re: The Top 10 Best-Selling Nintendo 3DS Games (As Of June 2018)
@MoonKnight7 yes, and no. Yes, it's a system seller, but to a VERY specific demographic (Japanese females). The highest sales for every handheld variant have come from Japan, and something like 70% of that group is female. That's why when Kimishima said they needed to find a way to sell Switch to more Japanese females, it's like uh, Iwata knew how to do it- MAKE A DAM ANIMAL CROSSING GAME!!
Re: The Top 10 Best-Selling Nintendo 3DS Games (As Of June 2018)
@Mrtoad yeah, they do if they sell 1 million copies, but as you see, the highest selling games on Nintendo systems are Nintendo owned IP's. That's just the way it is, people buy Nintendo systems for Nintendo games, not 3rd party games, and that's why they don't sell, which is why they don't get listed in the top 10.
Re: The US Trader Who Bet $400 Million Against Nintendo Takes Huge Hit As Stock Price Soars
In fairness, it's VERY unlikely that Switch will meet the goals- even Nintendo themselves came out and said it will be very difficult, especially with Switch now pacing BEHIND last year, let alone why fanboys insist that a spinoff Pokemon game is going to somehow push more systems than Odyssey and Zelda did, or the fact that the game is also aimed at those who don't ordinarily spend $300 on systems. Oh, and for Smash, how well did that push Wii U systems after it came out on it? Just because it sells 5 million games doesn't mean it sold 5 million systems, because there's always crossover. System sellers are big hitters like Zelda, Mario, ones where people purposely don't get until it comes out (MAINLINE Pokemon, not a spinoff).
Re: Animal Crossing: New Leaf Surpasses Wild World In Sales To Become Best-Selling Game In Franchise
@Fandabidozi that's the problem as well, these numbers are no doubt skewed because unlike the Switch version, you need multiple carts/downloads to have multiple towns. Switch won't need multiple carts, you can have like 8 accounts on the same system, so by Nintendo waiting like this, newcomers who got New Leaf after the Pocket Camp buzz, and decided they didn't like it would not get the Switch version- basically this means that Switch won't surpass its handheld predecessors for a multitude of reasons (primarily the multicart like Pokemon).
Re: Animal Crossing: New Leaf Surpasses Wild World In Sales To Become Best-Selling Game In Franchise
@Silly_G exactly. It took 3 New Leaf releases (original, Select, Welcome Amiibo) as well as a revitalization from the mobile app before it finally could surpass it. Oh, not to mention that the gap between games has been FAR longer than the just 3 years between Wild World and City Folk.
Re: 3DS Receives Another Super Stable Update
3DS? Oh, you mean Switch's predecessor, which because Nintendo refuses what the market is saying is leading to Switch's decline- before you fanboys argue, imagine Wario Ware on Switch instead of 3DS. There wouldn't be this game drought on Switch right now, and you wouldn't be seeing this sales DECLINE like it has now either. I rest my case...
Re: Nintendo Still Confident It Can Ship 20 Million Switch Consoles This Financial Year
@NewAdvent they're already behind as reported today, and why is a spin-off suddenly going to do what no other spin-off did, or why is a game that didn't do it for Wii U suddenly going to do it for Switch? We're talking NEW owners, not existing ones buying the games!
Re: Switch Retail Game Sales In Japan For This Year Have Surpassed The Five Million Mark
@NewAdvent remember when Kimishima said year 2 was critical for Switch?
Re: Switch Retail Game Sales In Japan For This Year Have Surpassed The Five Million Mark
@Tsurii reported today that it's DOWN year-on-year in Japan. So, good luck with that Pokemon SPIN-OFF and game that didn't sell Wii U selling Switch!
Re: WarioWare Gold Just Squeezes Into UK Top 40 As Crash Bandicoot's Chart Supremacy Continues
@Folkloner Nintendo (and especially their fanboys) can't accept that the 3DS is really a dead system, that only got popular in 2016 because of the Pokemon halo. Once that wore off, and Switch came out, the market is showing there's really no interest in 3DS. The games are where Nintendo makes their money, yet lying Reggie, and gullible fanboys, keep saying how "well" 3DS is doing, because of hardware sales, which are skewed too, because of how many models and special editions are bought up by collectors and scalpers. The true install base of 3DS is massively low (proven by the horrible attach rate), not to mention that financially the 3DS dropped like 80% in revenue- what that means is that compared to this time last year, it's only making about 20% of what it made during the same time period. Clearly the market sees Switch as the successor whether or not lying Reggie and gullible fanboys want to admit it or not. Oh, and why lying Reggie? Because he said in June that 3DS hardware sales were up in America, but their quarterly report shows it's not only down worldwide, but in America it was over 50% LOWER, not up!
Re: Reggie On The Status Of More Nintendo 3DS Games And Mario Kart Tour
Reggie is a flat out LIAR!! Their quarterly report came out today, and 3DS isn't up in America, they went from selling 420,000 units for this period in 2017 to 200,000 in America in 2018, that's a DECREASE Reggie, not an increase, and you fanboys are eating up his lies!!!
Check it out yourself:
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2018/180731e.pdf
Re: Zelda: Breath Of The Wild Is The Best-Selling Zelda Game Of All Time, Kind Of
" Switch 2 in 2023" more like Switch Lite, there's no way Switch only gets a 5 year lifespan, they've set it up for it to get 7 or 8 before its successor comes out- even Kimishima and Miyamoto said Nintendo wants more than 5 years like Wii U got.
Re: Zelda: Breath Of The Wild Is The Best-Selling Zelda Game Of All Time, Kind Of
@Nincompoop only bundled games made them $1 billion, because their highest selling game unbundled was SMB 3, and at $50 a pop (before sales decreases over time), it only sold 18 million, meaning it fell short of $1 billion.
Re: Zelda: Breath Of The Wild Is The Best-Selling Zelda Game Of All Time, Kind Of
Anyone notice that BOTW on Wii U outsold TP on GC? Shows that GC and Wii U were really, REALLY similar on many, MANY levels. Both were considered commercial failures during their times, both lost 3rd party support, both were followed by massive successors, both had exclusives ported to their successor(s). The GC is as much a "failure" to Nintendo as Wii U was.
Re: Nintendo Releases Complete Sales Figures For Its Million-Selling Switch Games
HEY, FANBOYS! Switch is DOWN year-on-year sales, not up!! Told you so, told you so, told you SO!! Who was right? Who was right? I WAS RIGHT!! Told you sales were DOWN, because NPD kept saying PS4 was topping the monthly charts, NOT Switch!! You all said Switch was higher than last year, but Nintendo's report today shows it LOWER year-on-year! Good luck with a SPINOFF Pokemon game, and a game that didn't push many Wii U's pushing Switch systems! Fanboys want to know why Switch owners want 3DS dead, THIS is why, if they didn't spend time/money making 3DS games, then they wouldn't have Switch droughts right now, and Switch sales wouldn't be lower, they'd probably be up! Kimishima has seriously screwed up Nintendo by refusing to merge 3DS development into Switch, because if Wario Ware were on Switch instead of 3DS, we'd have just another game to keep its momentum, not to mention higher sales of the game as the 3DS was massively down (like 70%) year-on-year! It was DOWN nearly 50% in America as well, proving Reggie Fils-Aime is a flat out liar who said 3DS sales were up in America- if they're up Reggie, why did it go from 420,000 in 2017 to 200,000 in 2018?? Does he count backwards?
Re: Animal Crossing’s Isao Moro Has Left Nintendo
Eh, that's how you know Nintendo has pushed the 3DS too far now, they waited so long that they've just lost one of the main contributors to the series, because instead of using the mobile app to push a Switch version, they used it to push more New Leaf copies. Sure, that helps the 3DS, but it's also on a $20 game on an $80 system, instead of selling $60 games on $300 systems. By the time the Switch one does come out the hype from the mobile app will be gone...
Re: Animal Crossing’s Isao Moro Has Left Nintendo
@SpaceboyScreams no chance, there's no chance they already have it finished, because look at the major gaps between big games RIGHT NOW! If they had finished games they were sitting on, there would NOT be major gaps between big games.