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With Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee! still a handful of months away, there's still an awful lot that we don't know about the latest pocket monster-catching titles. One of these unknown areas is how the games will connect to other titles; we know that there will be interaction with mobile sensation Pokémon GO, but what about other mainline entries?
Speaking in an upcoming issue of Famitsu (with some early snippets kindly translated by NintendoEverything), Game Freak's Junichi Masuda has hinted at the possibility of forward compatibility. It appears that Masuda was asked about how players might be able to trade Pokémon from the Let's Go titles to others - here's his response:
“There have been times where you couldn’t bring Pokémon over from previous titles – I imagine that created some bad memories. I want to try and change that, if I can.
He's clearly avoiding committing to the idea fully, but the fact that he has even mentioned that possibility in an interview suggests it's rather likely to happen. Of course, if it does indeed happen, this means that players will likely be able to transfer their favourite Pokémon from the Let's Go titles to the upcoming main RPG next year. If you're grabbing a Poké Ball Plus - this means you'll have a way of transferring the elusive Mew over, too.
Masuda also provided a small comment on the 2019 core RPG release, suggesting that Game Freak is still treating the game primarily as a handheld experience with players using their own individual systems.
“As for the 2019 title, we’re working with the idea that everyone will be playing on their own Switch. It’ll have the same kind of feeling as the previous games on handheld systems.”
Would you like to see the Pokémon Let's Go titles connect with the 2019 RPG? Or are you not too fussed about transferring your collection of monsters from one game to another? Let us know with a comment below.
[source nintendoeverything.com]
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If Game Freak are sparing no expense with Pokémon 2019, then I would imagine that TV play will be glorious. For many of us, this has been a fantasy long unfulfilled.
I hope they throw in a free play Pokémon Stadium style mode for good measure. Hell, they could sell that as its own separate game and we would still lap it up.
I don't think there will be interaction with the main series and I hope I'm right.
I don't see why this game is getting so much hate from the Pokemon fan base.
I see nothing wrong with them trying to gain more customers from the Pokemon go community.
They just gave us Sun/moon Ultra and they are complaining about a good looking game? People need to grow up
The hilarity is oeople want a console experience, and GameFreak commits to making the casual game that experience.
@Silly_G "If Game Freak are sparing no expense with Pokémon 2019, then I would imagine that TV play will be glorious." - I wouldn't count on that. In fact, Gamefreak is pretty infamous for being behind graphics-wise every generation. DS Pokemon looked like GBA games, 3DS Pokemon looked like DS games and Pokemon on Switch will most likely look like an upscaled 3DS game.
Yokai Watch is probably a better franchise if you're looking for a monster collecting game properly utilising the system's capabilities.
If Game Freak DOESN'T carry over Pokemon Bank to the Switch, I would be shocked, angry and forever crushed. I feel like Bank is one of the absolute best things GF has ever done. Having a semi permanent solution for storing your Pokemon and bringing them forward to new games is a fantastic thing. Though I would agree with it being restricted to post-game, as earlier transfer methods were.
Pokemon has allowed us to bring Pokemon forward in some fashion in every game since the GBA/Gamecube titles and this has been by far one of the best aspects of the series for me. Cutting off this feature would be such a massive let down.
It seems perfectly reasonable to me that Pokemon from LG Eevee and Pikachu may be a one way street with Bank, because the games only support the original 151, but so long as we can it's fine by me.
@Preposterous 3ds Pokémon looked like DS games ??? Hahahaha I guess this is your first generation of video games if you think that.
All of this makes me very worried.
I mean Let's GO Eevee & Pikachu is clearly a spinoff (despite what they say, there were spinoffs in the series before that had much more to do with main series games than this one), and they said that the mechanics and whatnot will be drastically simplified, and if you will be able to use your Let's GO Pokémon in later games, that could potentially mean we will have a dumbed down version of Pokémon going forward, something I wouldn't like at all.
The other statement is at least this bad as well. Having the idea that everyone will play on their own Switch possibly means you won't be able to create different save files on the same system with different users, which would be very sad. I was looking forward to Pokémon on the Switch partly because me and my girlfriend could play using the same game card, and that I could do nuzlocke challenges or just simply play through the game one more time after a few years without having to delete my save file. I really hope I'm wrong on this.
@fafonio They did, have you played some of 3D games on DS, like Dragon Quest Monsters Joker for example? If it wasn't for Sun/Moon, Pokemon games on 3DS would probably earn the title of the comparatively worst looking Pokemon games in the whole series; the gap between them and the best on the system was incredible.
This to me suggests Let's Go mechanics being present in Pokemon 2019.
It will be nice if they allow us to transfer Pokémon from the Let's Go titles to the game next year, but it could be that they will only be forward compatible with future titles in the Let's Go line if they make future games for the other regions to be released between main line titles.
@Knuckles-Fajita This. Game Freak seems to have no idea what people want out of a Pokemon console experience, the fact that a casualized, mobile pandering Pokemon game based on Go is their idea of a Pokemon console experience pretty much proves that. At this point I don't think we'll see the kind of Pokemon game we expect of them until 9th gen.
@liljmoore The problem is that the main games are already casualized to begin with. Every game for the last 5 years has been extremely linear, dumbed down, and devoid of content, and this game is just goes even further with that. The fanbase wants a more BotW-esque type of experience and Game Freak not only isn't providing that but is heading in the opposite direction.
@liljmoore You're right that it's not Gamefreaks fault. But outside their influence, Switch owners have been looking for new flagship games to continue Odyssey's and Breath of the Wild's success into year two, and Pokemon Core RPG seemed like the most likely contender. So the disappointment is understandable as well, and it shows in Nintendo's dropped stock value. But that's the publisher's trouble and should not weigh down on the developer, who is doing a great job.
All I want to know about Let's Go is how battling in co-op works. You know, the one potentially compelling new feature? How about we talk more about that?
If they want to convert Go fans into Let's Go fans and then into core fans, they have to have some sort of forward compatibility, so it's not a suprise. What is a surprise is how cagey he's being about it.
And honestly, needing multiple switches for pokemon was always expected. There isn't much news here.
Cool
Not that surprised that I was counting on this being possible
At this rate, I assume he means the 2019 entry will have no gen 1 Pokémon so Let’s Scam becomes a necessary evil.
Nintendo online should include a pokemon bank service and a way for us to link our current ones
Pokemon was never about flashy graphics....Still pokemon games on 3ds look great considering the low resolution and the blur of the system. And Pokemon Let's go graphics are fine. Not anime quality like Yokai watch screenshot but still pretty good. Its the gameplay that matters anyway. I just don't like the new Pokemon Go mechanic to catch wild pokemon
@Krisi I’m also very concerned about Game Freak preventing multiple accounts on the same Switch to be able to play the game.
That would be a total deal breaker, making impossible for me to buy the game.
As long as it’s one save per user, I’m down with that.
This might be a good time for the introduction of a new Pokemon; Chicken Little. It's only a stage 1, with no evolutions. It can't use TMs or HMs, because it has a fear of the unknown. It comes with a full moveset, and will never learn new moves.
1) Gnash - Chicken Little gnashes its teeth together in frustration, causing greatly lowered accuracy for target.
2) Echo - Chicken Little begins repeating itself, lowering target's attack.
3) Panic - Chicken Little works itself into a panic, causing confusion to target.
4) Skyfall - Chicken Little convinces target that the sky is falling. If Chicken Little is knocked out, the attacking Pokemon is also knocked out.
@Saego Why?
If you can move Let's Go! 'mons to Gen VIII, and you can move GO 'mons to Let's Go!, then that will mean that you'll finally be able to (indirectly) communicate from GO to the main series.
I think that's a good thing. And if they continue making Let's Go! type titles in the off-years, then they could maintain compatibility through these games from GO to the main series and the Bank.
The 2019 title NEEDS to include an actual shared world region where up to 4 players can run around and battle together at once. My god, Pokemon would sell SO many copies if they did this. Its really bad that in 2018, Im still unable to share the adventure experience with my friends. Like, that's what the brand has been advocating since Gen 1. Battle, trade, connect together etc.
@Krisi Garbage, having let's go be part of the series is a good, not bad. And you misinterpreted that comment, he meant they are single player games, unlike let's gos multiplayer, not that you can have only one save file
@Krisi Pretty sure Gamefreak can't work around the multi-accounts system of the Switch. Im about... 70% sure they can't. Any attempts to try to would be a waste of both time and money anyway, so I can't imagine doing so being at the top of their to-do list.
Since literally every main Pokémon game in history except for Pokémon Crystal Version have been, this isn't even remotely surprising
@MasterJay Let it be a series or spinoff on its own. Not everything needs to be connected. It's like @Redax said: it doesn't make sense.
Good luck converting your Pokémon with 3 stats to 6.
@Krisi I can’t speak on the concern for multiple save files as I’ve personally never had the need for more than one.
I will say I don’t understand your point about Let’s Go being compatible with the main line games. I don’t see what negative that brings and not even sure how that leap is made
@Redax And yet, there is precedence for it that, if I recall, had no negative impact but n the main line games. So again, what are we arguing here?
I wish more spinoffs would let you take your pokemon to main games. I don't see anything possibly negative about this.
From a data point of view, these pokemon probably have more in common with actual main game pokemon than, say, pokemon go pokemon. And even if they aren't, it's just a matter of transforming them into proper pokemon upon transferring, like they do with virtual console pokemon.
@Heavyarms55 I feel like it’s a good thing and a bad thing if they allow pokebank transfers from the 3ds games, the bad things I worry about is all of the hacked Pokémon making their way over. I feel like this would be the perfect time to clean them out but there would be a lot of pissed off people not being able to utilize their pokebanks.
@Bolt_Strike I’m confused you do know that let’s go isn’t gen 8 mainline entry correct? It’s a filler title until then. I would wait to pass judgement about what gamefreak considers a console entry until 2019.
@ThatNyteDaez I'm 99% sure it can be done in a few minutes. Even I could code it with my very minimal programming knowledge. They could just make it that if the game sees that there's already a save file for a user, it could give you a message that you can't create a new file when you try to use it with a different user. And sadly I don't trust in the Pokémon Company enough that they won't do this. I sure hope they won't, but I can definitely see especially them to do something like that.
@ALinkttPresent: Yeah, the core ones. But these are spinoffs, even though the Pokémon Company insists they are mainline games. And there are just a dew spinoff games that let you transfer your Pokémon to the main games.
@UmbreonsPapa Well, they have stated multiple times that the battle mechanics will be simplified in Let's GO, which may potentially mean abandoning stuff like abilities, natures, IVs, EVs, personality values, and stuff like that. I could do without IVs, sure, but the rest are pretty great additions to the series, and I wouldn't want them to be omitted. Sure, you could transfer Pokémon from the first two generations via Pokémon Bank, and the game essentially made up the missing information for each Pokémon, but you wouldn't know beforehand what your Pokémon would be like after transferring, essentially making it more akin to an excange for a somewhat similar Pokémon instead of genuine transfering.
@Krisi I don’t know how there were spinoffs more in line with the main entry games then let’s go, since let’s go is a yellow (main entry) remake.
@Krisi You apparently haven't done any proper research in order to make an informed opinion in the subject, instead you've just read clickbait headlines fueled by knee-jerk reactions.
Here's the mechanic in Let's Go! that ends up changed: wild encounters. That's it. Everything else is your typical Pokemon JRPG. It's not even dumbed down. Wild battles and catching has always been redundantly easy. At least now they're a lot more interactive and lack the monotony of random encounters. That's a GOOD thing, just like throwing HMs away was a good idea. People like you are the reason the franchise has stagnated and is starting to turn stale. Gameplay variety is a GOOD thing!
@Saego The stats are traditional. "CP" in Let's GO! is only a visual aid for newcomers that aren't used to JRPG leveling systems or stats. The actual stat system from prior entries is still there. Also, if we're going to be pedantic, then every remake that introduces one-time features should also be considered spin-offs, but they're not, because they have the main-line core series patented catching, battling, trading JRPG system. Let's GO also has all of that, ergo, it's a core game.
@Krisi It's a remake of Pokémon Red Version and Pokémon Blue Version. I don't think it's a spinoff unless those are also a spin-off.
I'm pretty excited for this game.... Will be a fun Pokémon game to keep me and a few friends busy.... I don't see why all these 'grown-ups' are making a hissie fit about a CASUAL kid game.
I'll wait till Pokémon 2019 is shown to pass some judgment on it.
And with the save files.... I'm pretty sure it'll be one save file per account. That would be dumb to not let the other accounts start a pokemon game, and if that's the case (which it won't) work around is easy, start a new game on a different switch, then transfer all data from different switch to the current one and boom! 2 Pokémon games (different accounts) on one switch.
@liljmoore the problem is they grew up and now they're 30 year olds playing a kids game and want depth.
@-Juice- Agreed. I don't get the internet outrage. Wild battles sucked and always have. Maybe this sucks too but they're at least trying to change it up. But all the rest of the "GO style dumbed down spinoff" hype on the internet doesn't mesh with what I've actually seen in gameplay demonstration that looks like....wait for it.....Pokemon. Looks plenty core to me, with a new wild mechanic. It's just....small.....with a small roster as well, because it's a Yellow remake. That's the main thing I think sets it apart from 2019, not the gameplay.
@Grumblevolcano I fully expect the gameplay of LGP is the gameplay of Pokemon going forward. I think 2019 is bigger in scale, and a new 'mon generation vs. a yellow remake, but the format will be mostly the same.
Though his comments about 2019 being more a handheld style experience suggests no motion controls mandated (touch screen OTOH perhaps. I do expect the Pokeball + will be supported though.
@Krisi Save files per account are a function of the system OS. It will support it.
@NEStalgia That's the key, Switch's touch screen is like typical smartphone touch screens so capturing wild Pokemon in Pokemon 2019 could be identical to Pokemon GO (maybe have Let's GO motion control capturing for docked mode).
@Grumblevolcano If so, I'm sticking with my Pokeball+ (I can't stand fingerprints on my screen!)
@Draxa And yet they’re billing this filler title as their take on a Pokémon console experience while 2019 is a Pokémon handheld experience. Not to mention the comparisons to XY and SM aren’t encouraging, their hesitation towards a BotW type of experience, and their initial prediction that the Switch would fail because of mobile. All of that basically proves that they have 0 understanding of the console market. It’s not just about this game. Hell it’s not even about 2019. Their whole view towards the industry and general strategy shows they have no idea what they’re doing.
@NEStalgia exactly, everyone is making so many assumptions based on the small bit shown in Let’s Go. Adding features is great but sometimes a series needs to trim out the fat, and this is one of those cases - wild encounters were tedious. They could still have EVs just in a different way. And everyone insisting that GF is wrong in this being mainline... really? They make the game and we know nothing about gen 8, most of these changes might be changes they’re implementing in gen 8. But we’ve hardly seen enough to know the changes other than no wild encounters and that wild Pokémon will show a CP that is some kind of indicator for its actual stats (which you can see upon capture, seeing CP just gives you a better idea if it’s worth a capture).
@Saego Why? I would much rather be able to bring my Pokemon over from Let's Go than not.
@Banjos_Backpack You can rest assured there, they’ve already confirmed 2019 is a new generation like XY and SM.
@ALinkttPresent @Draxa Well, what does it have in common with Yellow? It's set in the same region, collect the same generation of Pokémon, and you battle the same Gym leaders (persumably). But what does it have in common with other main series games? Yes, you still catch Pokémon (but you do that in almost every spinoff as well), you go around adventuring (again, like in most spinoffs), you battle Gym leaders (okay, that's only in SOME spinoffs), and you have turn-based combat (again, just like in many spinoffs).
However, unlike mainline Pokémon games, the wild battles and capturing mechanics are completely different, encountering Pokémon is completely different, you supposedly train Pokémon in a completely different way, the inner mechanics of the game work in a simpler way (supposedly), not all Pokémon are programmed into the game (most likely, and it was never the case in any main series game before, even in FireRed/LeafGreen, an older remake of the first generation), and it's persumably not compatible with any previous main line game (which was also never the case, except for Ruby/Sapphire, which pretty much was just a technical problem, which shouldn't exist here). It's compatible with a spinoff, though.
So seriously, what makes this a main series game? Is Trading Card Game a main series game? You go around a region, collect Pokémon, battle in a turn-based setting, and defeat 8 Gym leaders to have a chance to fight against the elite four. Or are Colosseum and XD main series games? You catch and train Pokémon in them with the same mechanics that are in the main series games, you have the same items (with some exclusives added in), you can freely trade and battle between them and the main series games, you go around a region battling bad guys, and there are even some gyms here and there.
Seriously, would you say it's a main series game even if it wasn't set in Kanto? If so, why aren't the previously mentioned games core titles? Or is anything set in a region that was home to a previous main series game a core entry?
@Bolt_Strike yet they still make boat loads of cash. They’re are always going to be unhappy consumers no matter what route they take, but to say they have no idea or understanding of the market or what they are doing is a joke.
@Krisi none of what you just said changes the fact that let’s go is a remake/reimagining of yellow. I can’t even tell what the point is you’re trying to make.
@-Juice- Sorry if I came off that way, it's true that I haven't researched this game deeply, but that's mostly because of what they have showed and what I've read in interviews didn't really excite me, it actually kinda made me worried. I'm pretty much I've read it on multiple websites that Masuda said, in an interview, talking about stuff like EVs and IVs, that they "want to make things simpler this time around". I don't know what else they meant, but that's what I meant when I said they would simplify things.
And I absolutely love variety. I'm all for developers trying new things. I was never really annoyed with HMs, but I'm absolutely fine with them being gone. Generation 5 is my favorite, and it's one of the most controversial ones because it changed too much.
Variety, however, doesn't seem to be the main theme of this game. It just reuses the region I know better than the back of my hand, with seemingly hardly any changes except for an HD facelift. They even only have the original 151 Pokémon, just to make things less interesting. They slapped on the exact same capture mechanic from GO, made some things a bit more simple, and there you go.
I just don't understand why people say this is a main series game. Is something wrong with spinoffs? I really like them. They spice up things while you can play in the same world using the same monsters you came to know and love. This is just a spinoff that tries to look like a main series game. Or if it's a main series game, what previous main series game didn't have all the Pokémon created up to that point, or which one didn't let you trade/battle with other main series game, which one didn't have wild battles, and which one handled training Pokémon the same way another spinoff did (GO, in this case)?
@Bolt_Strike btw if you actually read the article without bias all he’s saying is that the 2019 8th gen will be more like the handheld experience has been, which could mean anything, but I’d suggest it would mean that they are bringing back wild battles, and ditching the go catching mechanic and cp levels since that’s apparently making everyone lose their minds. It doesn’t mean that they are going to create the exact same games that are on 3ds.
@Draxa It is absolutely a reimagining of Yellow, yes. But it's a spinoff. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
@Krisi there isn’t at all, I was just responding to the inaccurate comment you made earlier;
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“All of this makes me very worried.
I mean Let's GO Eevee & Pikachu is clearly a spinoff (despite what they say, there were spinoffs in the series before that had much more to do with main series games than this one)”
Other spinoffs can’t have more to do with the main series games since let’s go is a remake of a main series game. That’s all I’m saying.
@Draxa Well, I agree that Let's GO has more to do with Yellow than any other spinoff (and maybe more than even some core games), but Colosseum and XD, for example, in my opinion, have more in common with main series Pokémon games as a whole than Let's GO has (other than Yellow). Again, they use the same capture and training mechanics, have the same battle systems with the same stats, attacks, and items, they can trade and battle with main series games like other main series games can, and they have all the (then) existing Pokémon in the code, and none of this is true for Let's GO. They still have you travel across a region, discovering stuff, battling againts other trainers and members of an evil gang, and they even have some gyms. Yet, pretty much nobody says they are main series games (because they aren't), but so many people think Let's GO will be one, even though I don't think it has as many things in common with other core games as those one did.
If it wasn't set in Kanto, I don't think this many people would think it was a main series game. However, if any of the true main series games were set in a completely different region, nobody would think that they are not a part of the main series.
Then again, we can't really be sure about anything until the game comes out. Or until gen 8 comes out. If it drops most of the mechanics introduced in Let's GO, I'm pretty sure more people will se that it was, in fact a spinoff. If it keeps most of it, then I'll just eat my words.
I just want to play an updated version of Pokemon Yellow. I pray that the Go aspects don't ruin the experience.
@Draxa Console is a different animal though, with different expectations and different gameplay styles. So just because they've made money in the past doesn't mean they still will.
@Bolt_Strike
The Switch is still a handheld, and Gamefreak has iterated many times that Pokemon 2019 will follow the same trajectory as Pokemon X/Y and Sun/Moon i.e. it will be a traditional Pokemon experience for fans of the series.
I would certainly expect some meaningful improvements in gameplay and visuals due to the introduction of a new generation + the leap in hardware capability from 3DS to Switch, but don't expect Pokemon of the Wild in 2019, if not ever.
And come on...It's Pokemon. It's going to sell.
@Preposterous Well then XYORAS are the most amazing DS games I've seen and the BW series is the best GBA games I've seen. I didn't know GBA could do those 3D effects!
@Bolt_Strike Westman98 nailed it I don’t have anything else to add
@Draxa I understand the beef people have with hacked Pokemon. But the bank is pretty successful at keeping out impossible Pokemon. Even if a Pokemon is hacked, it has to be exactly like a Pokemon that can be obtained legitimately. Perfect IV, EV trained shiny Pokemon, while time consuming, are hardly impossible. I've done it more than once.
And that is just it. Punishing those of us who have done things legit, put in the THOUSANDS of hours, breeding, training, and creating our favorite Pokemon and teams over the years because some people abuse outside software is far more unfair than letting those people through the cracks.
So long as nothing can be transferred that could not be obtained through legitimate means, there is really no problems. Sure maybe it makes your shiny feel less valuable because Timmy used Poke-Gen to make one in 10 seconds, but in reality Timmy and most other people don't care that you spent 2 weeks breeding that shiny charmander compared to him spending 10 seconds when the end result is the same. It is more unfair to punish you than to allow him.
@westman98 @Draxa It's not just a handheld though, it's a hybrid of a handheld and a console and serves the role of both. So it needs to provide both to fully capitalize on its audience. Since Pokemon is now on a device that serves as a console it's now directly competing with them, that means it's being compared to the likes of BotW and Odyssey and needs to provide a similar experience to keep its marketshare. And LGPE doesn't even compare to Mario 64 and OoT, games as old as the game it's remaking, let alone BotW and Odyssey. So how is it supposed to be a console experience again? Console gamers have been used to much, much more than what LGPE is offering.
Maybe it doesn't need to be quite Pokemon of the Wild (although that really is where it should be going in the long run). That's a big ask for a new console developer so it'd be understandable if they're not ready for that leap. But the usual leap in graphics isn't going to be enough this time, part of what sets a console game apart from a handheld game is also in the size and scale of its maps and the amount of content it has, so improvements in those areas are also going to be expected of the 2019 game. Unfortunately, Game Freak has been intentionally reducing those aspects of the gameplay in the name of appealing to a market that probably isn't interested in the Switch to begin with, and they've shown no signs of reversing that trend besides vague PR statements saying the game is going to be "more hardcore" and "the game you've been waiting for".
So yeah, it's definitely questionable whether or not they understand the console market. Everything they've been fighting against the past 5 years has been exactly what people like about the console market and a large part of the reason the Switch is succeeding, if they've done as much market research as they'd like us to believe they should know they need a similar experience on the Switch to draw in console gamers and they've yet to reassure us that such an experience is in the pipeline.
@Bolt_Strike
Gamefreak seems intent on making Pokemon 2019 a traditional "handheld" experience, but with much better hardware. I don't think people really care about "handheld vs console standards" or some arbitrary classification of that sort.
Look at the jump from Yokai Watch 3 to Yokai Watch 4. That's what I'd expect for the jump from Pokemon Sun/Moon to Pokemon 2019 - much better graphics + much larger world + more Yokai/Pokemon.
And I'd hate if Nintendo or other publishers felt forced to "console"-ize everything they make. I think Octopath Traveler is awesome from what I've played of it thus far, and I'd like to see a 2D Zelda (Link Between Worlds sequel?) and 2D Metroid (Samus Returns Sequel?) on Switch, even if those games are considered "handheld" experiences that don't match the scale of something like Zelda Breath of the Wild.
You just sold a lot of copys of this game
@westman98 Pokemon is one of Nintendo's biggest IPs though, for it to remain big and continue to draw in large audiences it's going to need to appeal to both handheld gamers and console gamers. So they can't just stay inside their handheld bubble, now that they're on a console that bubble has now burst.
Something like Yokai Watch 4 would be fine, but Yokai Watch is already more open than Pokemon to begin with. Part of Pokemon's problem is that its region design is pretty much Hallway Simulator. Linear areas constantly forcing you forward with little to no opportunities to branch off and explore. And that much is going to need to change to appeal to console gamers. Again, if they can't do full open world allowing you to go in any direction, fine. But they should definitely make it larger and more open ended so it doesn't feel quite as scripted. I would say a better basis for 8th gen if they can't do full open world would be something more like Twilight Princess. That game's design is close enough to Pokemon's current design structure while still being larger and open ended enough to feel more console like.
@-Juice- Agree with all of this. The amount of whining from people about this game is getting unbearable.
@KingMike Check out both Golden Suns for a nice semi-3D effect (which honestly looked way more impressive than any Pokemon game) and Max Payne on GBA for some genuine 3D as well.
@Saego It isn't a spinoff, and it isn't even really a remaster either, it's a full new game set in a previous region
@Bolt_Strike
Pokemon will be a big franchise no matter what. It will comfortably sell tens of millions of copies like before because it's Pokemon, it's in HD, and it's on a popular gaming device (the Switch) that has been very receptive toward Nintendo's first party software output regardless of whether those games are considered "too handheld-ish" or not.
I agree that many (myself included) like to see a larger and open-ended Pokemon game, and that's what I expect for next year's game. But Pokemon isn't Zelda i.e. a far less popular franchise in desperate need of reinvention after Skyward Sword's underwhelming commercial performance.
...Pokémon Let's Go titles connect with the 2019 RPG...
To not sound dumb, but as long as the Let's Go games connecting with the 2019 RPG does not "dumb down" the experience for the 2019 RPG Pokemon games things should be great!
I want the 2019 Pokemon games to be as hard if not harder than Pokemon Black & Pokemon White in both main game and post game. Also, I want them to add a "Easy" & "Hard" mode right at the start of the game like Pokemon Black 2 & Pokemon White 2 did without having to get those stupid keys to unlock said modes however.
@westman98 Are you me? You are replying exactly what I think.
I'll start to record what I do while I sleep.
Anyway, I completely agree.
Give us pokemon bank on switch next year with the 2019 release pokemon game. make lets go compatible and I would like to see the gold/silver versions of lets go later on too.
@westman98 And what "handheld-ish" games are those? The Switch's big releases have all been console games. 3D Zelda? Console. 3D Mario? Console. Splatoon? Console. Xenoblade? Console. Where are the handheld exclusive games that are selling?
Also, a series doesn't have to be struggling to change things up. Sometimes changes in the industry and technology can lead to changes as well. Transitioning to console is one kind of change that could lead to a radical change in gameplay. Mario and Zelda weren't exactly failing when Mario 64 and OoT came out. They just changed because the hardware was different. Pokemon's now facing a similar situation. It's on vastly different hardware capable of so much more with a completely new audience, so that alone warrants major changes.
@Bolt_Strike
I don't think the Switch has a "completely different" audience from previous Nintendo portable hardware. That's why Pokemon is on the Switch to begin with, and not sticking to the 3DS or jumping ship to mobile.
And by "handheld-ish" games, I'm talking about games like Kirby Star Allies, Octopath Traveler, Yokai Watch 4, etc. sequels to 3DS games that aren't Zelda Breath of the Wild in scale or size. A potential 2D Zelda and 2D Metroid on Switch would also be considered a "handheld-ish" game in my view, based on that definition.
@westman98 Pokemon is on the Switch because they don't have a choice. 3DS is slowly dying and mobile is a secondary market to Nintendo. The Switch is the only Nintendo device they can develop for. And whatever handheld market exists on the Switch is likely diluted from being mixed in with the console market, probably has increased expectations due to the Switch also being a console, and is probably fewer in number due to the cheaper and more casual end of that market leaving for mobile. So counting on them to continue to drive sales isn't exactly smart, and counting on a mobile-esque remake of a handheld game from 20 years ago to drive sales is even less smart.
@Bolt_Strike
I'm not denying that expectations have been raised; I'm expecting a larger, more open-ended Pokemon game in 2019 ala Yokai Watch 4.
I just don't expect some massive leap in 2019 that would be akin to some Mario 64/Zelda Ocarina of Time/Zelda Breath of the Wild. Nor do I think the general gaming audience cares about such a jump.
And Pokemon Go is huge, and it has currently undergoing a big engagement resurgence. I'm not surprised at all that Let's Go exists to capitalize on Go's success and to buy some time for Pokemon 2019.
@westman98 Thing about Go though, is that it's F2P and exists on hardware that can do much more than gaming. How much of that audience do you think is going to spend $360 to just to play another Go-like game?
@Bolt_Strike
Pokemon Go has 800 million downloads and has generated $1 billion in revenue (with $170 million coming from May-June 2018 alone). If Let' Go convinces just 1% of Pokemon Go's download-base to a Switch + Let's Go, and/or other Switch games, that's like 8 million customers. It's an easier pill to swallow during the holidays, when consumer electronics see a massive surge in sales. It's even easier if Nintendo introduces a Black Friday/Christmas bundle or something, though that isn't guaranteed to happen.
@Silly_G unless you used Super Game Boy or Game Boy Player, you've never seen Pokemon on a screen larger than 6"
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I have next year's Pokemon game preordered! I'm not sure but it's good to have; I like to start fresh each new generation
If let’s go we’re to continue through the generations. As if Pikachu and Eevee are traveling through the regions themselves That would be a step closer to get the forward compatiablity. More people will purchase and be happy with Pokémon. Gen 8 is announced. What better way to accompany that new generation than with Pokémon let’s go gen 2
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