Critics call arcade games too short, dock them review points. Developers of arcade style game have to respond by making their games too long. That's how we get the last few stages of Shredder's Revenge. These games are meant to be replayed over and over for mastery, the mindset of oh I got through it all once I'm done with it forever does not apply here. Anyway. Looks interesting.
@StephenYap3 Original plays a lot like an old school shmup, fast bullets, not very dense patterns. Maniac mode is actually about the same difficulty but slower, denser bullet patterns.
Anyone with the slightest interest in shmups or arcade games in general should give this a go, high quality port of one of the best shmups ever.
It's like playing Celeste normally and playing Celeste for golden strawberries. The game is fun enough for both, but the player's approach to each is very different.
@Lightsiyd agreed about grinding. But I do think there is marathon difficulty and burst difficulty. Most game these days are difficult in short bursts, like your Dread example. And that can be very fun and rewarding.
Less common now is old school marathon difficulty, maintaining high quality play over long periods. Different skills exercised, different approach, both can be great if done well. Admittedly, marathon difficulty leads more often to rage quitting haha but the next time you play you might change your strat. I don't think it's necessarily the game not respecting your time, just that the game has to be higher quality for that type of difficulty to work well.
@Lightsiyd what else is difficulty for? Overcoming difficulty by honing skills is its own reward. Obviously it should be fun, but it's not like difficult and fun are mutually exclusive
@LikelySatan too true. I think IDW's #1-50 is absolute perfection. Epic, sprawling turtles vs. Shredder story with closure. Check out the hardcovers with all the miniseries and one-shots inserted chronologically, there are a lot. Last Ronin is awesome too.
@Spider-Kev Agreed Armageddon Game was super underwhelming. But as far as I know Sophie Campbell was solely responsible for a lot of the mutant town crap like battle of the bands, Mikey's podcast, weird Jennika stories etc. Waltz came back for Armageddon Game. He and Eastman have "creative consultant" credits for Sophie's run but reading his comments on it seems like it was all her. Anyway I'm interested in the upcoming reboot. Not so much this game. Last Ronin game, yes please.
Put hundreds of hours into multiplayer back in middle school. It felt so cool to save my character to a memory card and bring it over to my friends house. Gotta get those stats up, leveling up was quite the grind. Really wish this had an actual online server not just the NSO friend style. Tough to gather the middle school gang up these days.
Played the demo on Steam, this game is high quality, probably the best feeling drift into boost mechanic I've seen. Looking forward to it, and good to see a release after what looked like a long delay after the demo.
With the disappearance of instruction booklets, I really don't care any more. Games are inherently digital. The current presentation of switch physical games is so lackluster, may as well just sell me a plain usb stick with the game name on in marker.
What I do not want at all is the way things are going- subscription based, non-ownership. This is one area we may feel grateful that Nintendo is often stubbornly behind the times, but NSO doesn't bode well.
A lot of people suggesting Nintendo want to push the switch to beat out PS2 sales, but I'd bet they don't care about that at all... if a new system sooner means more profit, that's what the shareholders want and that's what they'll do
They built up the Mario movie the same way, turned out to be kind of like a long form Trix commercial. Which for Mario, fine, but we have an emotional connection with LoZ. We will see. Trying to keep an open mind but Zelda should not be a movie.
Weird to give the boring late stages of Shredder's Revenge a pass by claiming this happens in all beat-em-ups.They tried to stretch the playtime to combat the whining of modern critics and fans ignorant of arcade design- "Why would I pay for a 45 minute game!!/?" and that's on them, not the genre.
(same with SOR4, way too long, but better than late Shredder's Revenge.)
I love the 2012 series so the voice cast returning is a big plus. The input lag must be really bad though, the Cowabunga Collection has atrocious lag and it wasn't even mentioned in the review. Here's hoping the Last Ronin game comes to the next nintendo console. (also the assertion that Shredder's Revenge is anywhere near as good as snes Turtles in Time really baffles me) Booyakashaaaa!
Amazing stuff, good job! Really didn't expect it to be as cheap as $4.99, another huge factor in accessibility in a totally different but very important way.
@Tom-Massey I guess we all have different standards and definitions of phrases like unacceptable and "requires determination to look past." For a $40(!) run n gun, that's far from "not bad." I'm a huge contra fan, that demo was trash.
I've also heard former reviewers say Nintendolife had increased the score they gave without their knowledge. That would make more sense to me here.
"Glitches, however, are minor irritants compared to the game’s performance, which on Switch is frankly unacceptable."
6/10 Not Bad!
If you say it's bad, give it a bad score. If it looks like you reaaally don't want to give any game a bad score ever, you lose credibility. The review is of the switch version, not the "core game beneath" or whatever.
good time to look up little Celeste 2 they made for the 3rd anniversary on Pico-8, free download, cool hookshot type mechanic, even has Lena Raine soundtrack.
Celeste is my favorite platformer ever. Still need some golden strawberries, nice to look forward to.
@mrMike I don't think Nintendo need any help defending their IP haha. This looks promising, though not the next-gen F-Zero we need. The track editor would be more appealing if there was online multiplayer.
Expect it to be very BotW heavy, with no set place in the timeline, certainly not one of the darker zelda stories. They're still testing the waters here, broadest possible appeal will be the top priority. Could be ok.
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Re: Review: Valfaris: Mecha Therion (Switch) - Steel Mantis Switches To Shmup For A Tight, Taut Sequel
Critics call arcade games too short, dock them review points. Developers of arcade style game have to respond by making their games too long. That's how we get the last few stages of Shredder's Revenge.
These games are meant to be replayed over and over for mastery, the mindset of oh I got through it all once I'm done with it forever does not apply here.
Anyway. Looks interesting.
Re: Review: Valfaris: Mecha Therion (Switch) - Steel Mantis Switches To Shmup For A Tight, Taut Sequel
a 4 hour shmup is not short
Re: Green Ranger Will Be Unlockable In Digital Eclipse's Upcoming 'Power Rangers' Game
They couldn't even reach the low bar of TMNT II style, where the only variation is how much reach the weapons had. I call Donnie!
Re: Green Ranger Will Be Unlockable In Digital Eclipse's Upcoming 'Power Rangers' Game
And then when you beat the game with him you unlock white ranger Tommy, right? What a badass moment in the first movie, good times
Re: 'STALKER: Legends Of The Zone Trilogy' Shoots Onto Switch This November
@ImmaWario Andrei Rublev is a Tarkovsky film as well, close enough haha
Re: 'STALKER: Legends Of The Zone Trilogy' Shoots Onto Switch This November
Big fan of the book and movie, excited to try this.
Re: Feature: Here’s How Trading Card Companies Could Stop CT Scanning In The Future
@nukatha Yes, came to say that.
Re: PSA: Get 50% Off 'Mushihimesama' Before Its Switch eShop Delisting This Week
@StephenYap3 Original plays a lot like an old school shmup, fast bullets, not very dense patterns. Maniac mode is actually about the same difficulty but slower, denser bullet patterns.
Anyone with the slightest interest in shmups or arcade games in general should give this a go, high quality port of one of the best shmups ever.
Re: Review: Volgarr The Viking II (Switch) - One Of The Switch's Best 2D Action Platformers
@Wisps I'd expect you'd agree with that profile pic ha, prime examples.
"No way I'm restarting Wily's Castle from the beginning again!!"
Good times.
Re: Review: Volgarr The Viking II (Switch) - One Of The Switch's Best 2D Action Platformers
As far as this game goes, looks cool but I already have ghosts n goblins resurrection in the backlog, I'll wait for a good sale price.
Re: Review: Volgarr The Viking II (Switch) - One Of The Switch's Best 2D Action Platformers
It's like playing Celeste normally and playing Celeste for golden strawberries. The game is fun enough for both, but the player's approach to each is very different.
Re: Review: Volgarr The Viking II (Switch) - One Of The Switch's Best 2D Action Platformers
@Lightsiyd agreed about grinding. But I do think there is marathon difficulty and burst difficulty. Most game these days are difficult in short bursts, like your Dread example. And that can be very fun and rewarding.
Less common now is old school marathon difficulty, maintaining high quality play over long periods. Different skills exercised, different approach, both can be great if done well. Admittedly, marathon difficulty leads more often to rage quitting haha but the next time you play you might change your strat. I don't think it's necessarily the game not respecting your time, just that the game has to be higher quality for that type of difficulty to work well.
Re: Review: Volgarr The Viking II (Switch) - One Of The Switch's Best 2D Action Platformers
@Lightsiyd what else is difficulty for? Overcoming difficulty by honing skills is its own reward. Obviously it should be fun, but it's not like difficult and fun are mutually exclusive
Re: Review: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Splintered Fate (Switch) - Hades In A Half-Shell
@LikelySatan too true.
I think IDW's #1-50 is absolute perfection. Epic, sprawling turtles vs. Shredder story with closure. Check out the hardcovers with all the miniseries and one-shots inserted chronologically, there are a lot.
Last Ronin is awesome too.
Re: Review: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Splintered Fate (Switch) - Hades In A Half-Shell
@Spider-Kev
Huh, didn't know she was a trans woman until your comment confused me. Her writing is garbage and so is your transphobia.
Re: Review: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Splintered Fate (Switch) - Hades In A Half-Shell
@Spider-Kev
Agreed Armageddon Game was super underwhelming. But as far as I know Sophie Campbell was solely responsible for a lot of the mutant town crap like battle of the bands, Mikey's podcast, weird Jennika stories etc.
Waltz came back for Armageddon Game. He and Eastman have "creative consultant" credits for Sophie's run but reading his comments on it seems like it was all her.
Anyway I'm interested in the upcoming reboot. Not so much this game. Last Ronin game, yes please.
Re: Review: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Splintered Fate (Switch) - Hades In A Half-Shell
@Spider-Kev
Really? I thought #1 through #50 was an amazing run. After that, yea, big drop. And later, huge drop off with mutant town nonsense.
Re: Every Game In The Switch eShop 'Recollection Collection' Sale (North America)
"...a Suda51 fan’s wet dream splashed across the Switch."
Um. Is that really how you want to say that lol
Re: Random: Japan's 'KidZania' Attractions Let Kids Live Out Their Nintendo Game Dev Dreams
Mexico is in North America
Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns HD Costs $60 On Switch
they know that parents know the names donkey kong and luigi so that's what they'll grab for their kids without understanding they're being ripped off
Re: Review: Perfect Dark (Nintendo 64) - Perhaps Not Perfect, But Still A Remarkable Achievement
Put hundreds of hours into multiplayer back in middle school. It felt so cool to save my character to a memory card and bring it over to my friends house. Gotta get those stats up, leveling up was quite the grind. Really wish this had an actual online server not just the NSO friend style. Tough to gather the middle school gang up these days.
Re: Soapbox: Metroid Prime 4: Beyond Won't Be The Franchise's 'BOTW Moment', And That's Okay
Makes one wonder what direction they were going in the scrapped version
Re: Soapbox: Metroid Prime 4: Beyond Won't Be The Franchise's 'BOTW Moment', And That's Okay
My first thought was wait when does this happen in Echoes
Re: Developer M2 Wants To Bring More Games To The Switch
futari is stuck on 360 emulation, that should be rectified
Re: Dead Cells Designer Reveals Beat 'Em Up 'Tenjutsu', And We Really Hope It Comes To Switch
was hoping it would be a straight beat 'em up without roguelite elements
Re: Retro-Style Racer 'Victory Heat Rally' Power Slides Onto Switch Winter 2024
Played the demo on Steam, this game is high quality, probably the best feeling drift into boost mechanic I've seen. Looking forward to it, and good to see a release after what looked like a long delay after the demo.
Re: Sony On Zelda Live-Action Movie: Miyamoto Has A Really "Strong" Vision
they had me up til look at the Mario movie
Re: Nintendo Will Continue To Support Physical Media And "Maximise" All Software Sales
With the disappearance of instruction booklets, I really don't care any more. Games are inherently digital. The current presentation of switch physical games is so lackluster, may as well just sell me a plain usb stick with the game name on in marker.
What I do not want at all is the way things are going- subscription based, non-ownership. This is one area we may feel grateful that Nintendo is often stubbornly behind the times, but NSO doesn't bode well.
Re: Nintendo Acknowledges That Successor Announcement May "Impact" Switch Sales
A lot of people suggesting Nintendo want to push the switch to beat out PS2 sales, but I'd bet they don't care about that at all... if a new system sooner means more profit, that's what the shareholders want and that's what they'll do
Re: Nintendo Believes Successor Announcement Will Have "Zero Impact" On Switch Sales
The translation provided says the opposite of the headline...
Re: Soapbox: Are We Ready For A 3D Super Mario Maker?
I'd love to just play Galaxy 2
Re: Zelda Live-Action Movie Director Confident "Fans Are Gonna Be Happy"
They built up the Mario movie the same way, turned out to be kind of like a long form Trix commercial. Which for Mario, fine, but we have an emotional connection with LoZ. We will see. Trying to keep an open mind but Zelda should not be a movie.
Re: Round Up: The Reviews Are In For Endless Ocean: Luminous
The kids really wanted this one. I'll wait for a good sale.
Re: Best Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Games, Ranked - Every TMNT Game On Switch And Nintendo Systems
Weird to give the boring late stages of Shredder's Revenge a pass by claiming this happens in all beat-em-ups.They tried to stretch the playtime to combat the whining of modern critics and fans ignorant of arcade design- "Why would I pay for a 45 minute game!!/?" and that's on them, not the genre.
(same with SOR4, way too long, but better than late Shredder's Revenge.)
Re: Review: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Arcade: Wrath Of The Mutants (Switch) - Coin-Op Co-Op Cowabummer
I love the 2012 series so the voice cast returning is a big plus.
The input lag must be really bad though, the Cowabunga Collection has atrocious lag and it wasn't even mentioned in the review.
Here's hoping the Last Ronin game comes to the next nintendo console.
(also the assertion that Shredder's Revenge is anywhere near as good as snes Turtles in Time really baffles me)
Booyakashaaaa!
Re: Feature: 'Overjoyed' Is A Switch-Compatible, One-Finger Accessibility App That's Available Now
Amazing stuff, good job! Really didn't expect it to be as cheap as $4.99, another huge factor in accessibility in a totally different but very important way.
Re: Site News: So, Where's Our MLB The Show 24 Review?
Just give me more powerpros. Haven't had much fun with an MLB game since All Star Baseball '99.
Re: Talking Point: Why Isn't Nintendo Revealing Its Partner Devs Before Launch?
Seems like a culture thing. If you do work for nintendo, all your work is NINTENDO'S.
Re: Upcoming 'Missile Dancer 2' Is A Significant Departure From The First Game
Terarin games are always a good time! They get really cheap on Steam too.
Re: Review: Contra: Operation Galuga (Switch) - Does The Series Proud, But Best Played Elsewhere
@Tom-Massey I guess we all have different standards and definitions of phrases like unacceptable and "requires determination to look past." For a $40(!) run n gun, that's far from "not bad." I'm a huge contra fan, that demo was trash.
I've also heard former reviewers say Nintendolife had increased the score they gave without their knowledge. That would make more sense to me here.
Re: Review: Contra: Operation Galuga (Switch) - Does The Series Proud, But Best Played Elsewhere
"Glitches, however, are minor irritants compared to the game’s performance, which on Switch is frankly unacceptable."
6/10 Not Bad!
If you say it's bad, give it a bad score. If it looks like you reaaally don't want to give any game a bad score ever, you lose credibility. The review is of the switch version, not the "core game beneath" or whatever.
Re: Poll: What Switch Online Rare Game Are You Playing This Weekend?
RC Pro-AM! Awesome game, played the hell out of it as a kid, had no idea it was Rare.
I wonder what 4 games will come out next year.
Re: Jim Carrey Returns As Dr. Robotnik In Sonic The Hedgehog 3 Movie
He doesn't need time off to get drunk and put the boat in the water?
Good news. His performance is really the only reason I watch these.
Re: Celeste Devs Making "Something Small But Cool" For 6th Anniversary
good time to look up little Celeste 2 they made for the 3rd anniversary on Pico-8, free download, cool hookshot type mechanic, even has Lena Raine soundtrack.
Celeste is my favorite platformer ever. Still need some golden strawberries, nice to look forward to.
Re: 94 Switch Games You Should Pick Up in Nintendo's 'Jump-Start' January Sale (US)
Don't know if I "should" spend a couple thousand...how bout a nice "could".
Re: Mini Review: Shinorubi (Switch) - A Curious Shooter That's A No-Go In Docked Mode
hey guys dodonpachi daioujou just came out for christmas...
Re: Mini Review: Shinorubi (Switch) - A Curious Shooter That's A No-Go In Docked Mode
many attempts at this widescreen vertically scrolling aspect, almost always a disaster
Re: Video: Digital Foundry's Technical Analysis Of Prince Of Persia: The Lost Crown On Switch
Haven't thought about this franchise since the gamecube, pretty excited for this one (when it goes on sale.)
@Savage_Joe that's strange, the joycons are usually the fastest switch input device.
Re: 'Star Racer' Is A Rad Mix Of F-Zero And Star Fox, With Music From Banjo Composer
@mrMike I don't think Nintendo need any help defending their IP haha. This looks promising, though not the next-gen F-Zero we need. The track editor would be more appealing if there was online multiplayer.
Re: Reaction: What's Your Gut Feeling On The Zelda Movie News?
Expect it to be very BotW heavy, with no set place in the timeline, certainly not one of the darker zelda stories. They're still testing the waters here, broadest possible appeal will be the top priority. Could be ok.