I think having a "Pro" version will give them a huge boost. Right now they are 2 generations behind in tech. I mean, if they release a 4k version of the switch with some storage and speed upgrades id preorder in a hurry. I love my switch but having a new, more powerful, version would be amazing.
He does not have a good history as producer. Billy Hatcher in 2003 was decent. But the rest is street pass or DS/Wii shovel content. Most of them are super obscure. A bunch of Wii waggle type games too..the bad kind.
@Tandy255 I worked in a retail store when the NEW 3ds came out and before that Apple did it with New iPhone and NEW iPod. i work retail now but corporate side.
Products named NEW are horrific to work with. Customers are confused and have no idea what version they have. Marketing it on a website is just as painful because its all named new or by the year. Its bad for everyone.
@NintendoBMA I like the idea of SNS, it has a very good history to it. But calling it super..i dunno it just sound very retro and old now. I do like it though haha
I mean Pro would make sense, it follows naming conventions they already use. XL would as well but they seem to want to distance it from the DS given that the DS is now obsolete it makes less sense.
@Kieroni God i hope not, using the word "New" in a model name is the worst idea ever. Every time a company does that its a terrible idea in virtually every single way. haha
@Heavyarms55 Man you went heavy on the conspiracy there didnt you. Yeah no one paid them, this wasn't a Sony article or anything else. It was an industry article from analysts. Everyone is effected, GPUs, Cars, consoles, Processors, monitors, tvs everything with a chip its a world wide and industry wide issue and thats a fact not a conspiracy.
SOME companies have a stockpile, Apple being one of them. Apple can do that because alot of the chips in their phones are the exact same every generation. Even the processors are usual just a slight improvement but the parts inside are the same.
PS5, Xbox and GPU was hit the hardest. Because all 3 were new architecture. When the pandemic started the final parts of the system were still being decided upon and at that point no shortage was expected.
When those 3 main products had their specs finalized it created a massive influx, and influx that would normally be fine, if there wasnt a shortage of raw materials.. The big 3 being Nvdia, Sony and Microsoft, all tried to release new hardware within the same month or 2. Needless to say thats millions of extra parts. Not including every single other industry.
Now for GPUs we had a stock shortage because of bots and scalpers and crypto miner as well
Ps5 and Xbox got hit by scalpers as well. not to mention that with people stuck at home they wanted games and systems to tide them over. Lockdowns, no gatherings, no work...major sales increase.
Nintendo would have been ok. The system is 4 years old, they likely have a huge stock pile like Apple.
Sony have already released rough sales data that the PS5 outsold projections. It even smashed the PS4 sales, which was the fastest selling console at launch. They couldnt have prepared for that. Thats why Sony announced they are trying re work the architecture to help their supply.
Officially there is a world wide shortage in EVERY industry until 2022 now and that was an independent study
There isnt some weird conspiracy. 3 of the biggest tech launches in gaming history, launched at the same time, world wide. during a pandemic, with a shortage of raw materials.
They could have delayed those until 2022 but doing so would have lost them billions in revenue. It would have destroyed Sony, Microsoft and Nivdia financially.
@Heavyarms55 Actually there was an interesting article on a tech site recently. It seems no one predicted the chip shortage at all. All major companies expected there to be more than needed. People wouldnt be working, wouldnt have money for tech. They still stockpiled to make sure though. The interesting part was that not only did sales continue to FAR exceeded every and all trends and predicated sales.
It was really interesting but all the analysts in the industry predicted the same thing based on past models, which makes sense. But every last one of them admitted this was the exact opposite trend that should have happened.
super interesting to see that even the peoples whos job it is to predict this stuff were completely blown away by what actually happened.
@Ashunera84 My point is, as most people seem to agree, adding a feature the original didnt have, that effects the game, and isnt just cosmetic, just for the pure purpose to sell an expensive Amiibo is still pretty bad. All the other Amiibos add a costume or mostly cosmetics. So adding an entire feature based on an extra piece, isnt good.
It also sets a precedence. People were so mad when Elder Scrolls had horse armor and it opened the door for DLC and now we have constant addons. Microtransactions and Loot boxs started with games like COD and now they are freaking everywhere. I mean, even single player games now sell currency or its hours and hours or work to get something.
Something like this can open the doors for Nintendo, or others, to do something like this but worse. It'll sell regardless but all it does it shows Nintendo they can sell lock features behind a paywall.
@bozz See...story wise 1 is far far superior. Its more engaging, the characters i cared about..it 2, not so much.
But gameplay wise, 2 is way way better. It has loads of different game play types but it actually works. Even the RTS parts worked well. On ps4 it is unbelievably pretty.
For people that still think that Nintendo remasters arent over priced. Just going to remind you all that the Mass Effect Trilogy, with all 3 games remastered, with some updated mechanics and updated graphics with ALL dlc...is the same price as this....and this game locks a key feature behind a limited edition paywall....you are fooling yourself if you think Nintendo's pricing makes sense.
@CactusMan Near unplayable? Thats a huge exaggeration. I didnt have the Amiibo for it, I played the original GB version multiple times and the remake and other than a little extra time there is next to no difference.
@Ashunera84 Oh come on. The original version can still be pretty damn expensive and only on eBay so there is price gouging going on. Very few people still have a Wii and even less have a Wii U. We know Nintendo doesnt price drop first party games, they always stay at full retail. Even a rare sale sometimes drops them by $10 but that might be in 2 years if at all.
Not buying something to show them its over priced has never worked, because they only look at sales and you cant stop everyone from just not buying it. It is absolutely over priced and we all know it.
I wouldnt say undercooked like the other person. But adding fast travel, which is a simple modern mechanic..then locking it behind a very expensive pay wall is extremely scummy. Not to mention that with Amiibos being physical only eventually they will stop making them. Its impossible to find most older ones already. That means they are locking a main standard feature behind a limited edition paywall...that is not ok at all.
As for not being a necessity, of course that true. But this is still an inexcusable tactic. Hobby or not it doesnt make over pricing and scum back tactics any better. Just look at loot boxes.
@Spider-Kev Honestly it's not something I usually do. But it was before the Switch was announced and the Wii U was already a near dead system. I did it for Xenoblade Chronicles X at the time and a few others. Games went out of print and paying insane ebay prices for games just because Nintendo messed up was a hard pass.
@JayJ Budget I would imagine and to see if it actually sells. They can use money from sales to get it localized and their games can be very niche so if the hype for it is low outside of Japan then they didnt waste money.
@GrailUK Its not the reason you think it is. There is a world wide shortage of silicone chips. Thats likely the major issue, PS5, Monitors and GPUs are all being hit super hard
@jakebrake The Nintendo online thing is infuriating. People pirated the games on roms because there was zero other options. Then Nintendo shut all that down and Nintendo Online is now just a platform for a few good games and 80% games no one has ever heard of.
@SuperCharr Yeah but the money they make on merch and licensing would be absolutely insane. The toy sales and licensing could easily fund a Switch Pro development.
Lets face it they don't actually care about Nintendo Online. Almost all the NES and SNES games added have been garbage that half the user base has never even heard of. They are basically trying to add the crappiest cheapest games they can so they dont have to pay any licensing
@CarlosM87 If they were smart they would just sell the right to Silent Hill. the only money they make on it now is bloody Pachinko machines, might as well give it to a studio that can do something good with it. The team behind The Evil Within could really make something special.
Whos Konami? Wasnt that the game company that made some awesome stuff before they treated their staff like utter garbage and basically gave the middle finger to fans? Their entire board needed to be fired and start again.
@Classic603 I highly doubt it. Pretty much the same story and everything else just with a chibi art style. It was a mobile game for iPhone and Android..so that should be all you need to know haha
@DDStuff This design would be easier for the devs and artists. Because it match's the cover art. dimensions. Right now they have to design a custom square.
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Re: Nintendo Confirms Switch Digital Deals Promotion To Follow E3 Event
Knowing Nintendo....95 mobile games no one plays and 5 first party games that should have had a price reduction a few years ago
Re: Switch Was Outsold By PS5 And Xbox Series X|S In The UK Last Month
I think having a "Pro" version will give them a huge boost. Right now they are 2 generations behind in tech. I mean, if they release a 4k version of the switch with some storage and speed upgrades id preorder in a hurry. I love my switch but having a new, more powerful, version would be amazing.
Re: Switch Was Outsold By PS5 And Xbox Series X|S In The UK Last Month
@Fighter_Hayabusa Good luck finding graphics card. Still a major chip shortage world wide till 2022
Re: Feature: Nintendo's Most Iconic E3 Moments
@Magician I bought Wii Music.........why did I buy Wii Music
Re: Video: Meet The Hori Flex, A Nintendo Switch Controller Built With Accessibility In Mind
Microsoft made the Xbox one then made the patents free and open so everyone could make them. Surprised more companies havent used that
Re: Yuji Naka Parted Ways With Square Enix Following Balan Wonderworld's Release
@Waluigi999 ooo he did one for Balan? I am absolutely going to watch that
Re: Yuji Naka Parted Ways With Square Enix Following Balan Wonderworld's Release
@Orpheus79V Take a look at his wiki list:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuji_Naka
He does not have a good history as producer. Billy Hatcher in 2003 was decent. But the rest is street pass or DS/Wii shovel content. Most of them are super obscure. A bunch of Wii waggle type games too..the bad kind.
Re: Nintendo Wants To Know If You Would Fork Out $50 For A New WarioWare Game
If it was new, not a remake or remaster, and had multiplayer..then hell yes.
Re: Yuji Naka Parted Ways With Square Enix Following Balan Wonderworld's Release
@Waluigi999 the original shouldn't even exist. It was a failure in every single sense of the word
Re: Yuji Naka Parted Ways With Square Enix Following Balan Wonderworld's Release
@MaxiPareja I looked at his wiki. Last hit 2001 with Sonic Adventures 2. Everyone else after that is trash shovel type games
Re: Yuji Naka Parted Ways With Square Enix Following Balan Wonderworld's Release
Look up his games on Wikipedia. Not a single hit since 2001/2002
Its all been garbage shovelware. Its mostly Wiiware type games or filler games.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuji_Naka
Re: Square Enix Shares Purposefully Vague List Of E3 2021 Games, Teases World Premiere
@Quantaur Nope...but Square is really trying to beat a dead horse.
Re: Square Enix Shares Purposefully Vague List Of E3 2021 Games, Teases World Premiere
Imagine this
World Premier: Metroid - 2021, launching on Switch Pro in 4k
Can you imagine? it would blow us all away. I know it wont happen but damn that would blow all our minds.
Re: Talking Point: What Do You Think The "Switch Pro" Will Actually Be Called?
@Pod I dont know why but i like DX haha
Re: Talking Point: What Do You Think The "Switch Pro" Will Actually Be Called?
@Tandy255 I worked in a retail store when the NEW 3ds came out and before that Apple did it with New iPhone and NEW iPod.
i work retail now but corporate side.
Products named NEW are horrific to work with. Customers are confused and have no idea what version they have. Marketing it on a website is just as painful because its all named new or by the year. Its bad for everyone.
Re: Talking Point: What Do You Think The "Switch Pro" Will Actually Be Called?
@NintendoBMA I like the idea of SNS, it has a very good history to it. But calling it super..i dunno it just sound very retro and old now. I do like it though haha
Re: Talking Point: What Do You Think The "Switch Pro" Will Actually Be Called?
I mean Pro would make sense, it follows naming conventions they already use. XL would as well but they seem to want to distance it from the DS given that the DS is now obsolete it makes less sense.
Re: Talking Point: What Do You Think The "Switch Pro" Will Actually Be Called?
@Kieroni God i hope not, using the word "New" in a model name is the worst idea ever. Every time a company does that its a terrible idea in virtually every single way. haha
Re: Switch Hardware Sales Beat Xbox Series X|S And PS5 Combined, Unsurprisingly
@Heavyarms55 Man you went heavy on the conspiracy there didnt you.
Yeah no one paid them, this wasn't a Sony article or anything else. It was an industry article from analysts.
Everyone is effected, GPUs, Cars, consoles, Processors, monitors, tvs everything with a chip its a world wide and industry wide issue and thats a fact not a conspiracy.
SOME companies have a stockpile, Apple being one of them. Apple can do that because alot of the chips in their phones are the exact same every generation. Even the processors are usual just a slight improvement but the parts inside are the same.
PS5, Xbox and GPU was hit the hardest. Because all 3 were new architecture. When the pandemic started the final parts of the system were still being decided upon and at that point no shortage was expected.
When those 3 main products had their specs finalized it created a massive influx, and influx that would normally be fine, if there wasnt a shortage of raw materials.. The big 3 being Nvdia, Sony and Microsoft, all tried to release new hardware within the same month or 2. Needless to say thats millions of extra parts. Not including every single other industry.
Now for GPUs we had a stock shortage because of bots and scalpers and crypto miner as well
Ps5 and Xbox got hit by scalpers as well. not to mention that with people stuck at home they wanted games and systems to tide them over. Lockdowns, no gatherings, no work...major sales increase.
Nintendo would have been ok. The system is 4 years old, they likely have a huge stock pile like Apple.
Sony have already released rough sales data that the PS5 outsold projections. It even smashed the PS4 sales, which was the fastest selling console at launch. They couldnt have prepared for that. Thats why Sony announced they are trying re work the architecture to help their supply.
Officially there is a world wide shortage in EVERY industry until 2022 now and that was an independent study
There isnt some weird conspiracy. 3 of the biggest tech launches in gaming history, launched at the same time, world wide. during a pandemic, with a shortage of raw materials.
They could have delayed those until 2022 but doing so would have lost them billions in revenue. It would have destroyed Sony, Microsoft and Nivdia financially.
Re: Switch Hardware Sales Beat Xbox Series X|S And PS5 Combined, Unsurprisingly
@Heavyarms55 Wasnt their fault. nothing they could have done.
Re: Switch Hardware Sales Beat Xbox Series X|S And PS5 Combined, Unsurprisingly
@Heavyarms55 Actually there was an interesting article on a tech site recently. It seems no one predicted the chip shortage at all.
All major companies expected there to be more than needed. People wouldnt be working, wouldnt have money for tech. They still stockpiled to make sure though. The interesting part was that not only did sales continue to FAR exceeded every and all trends and predicated sales.
It was really interesting but all the analysts in the industry predicted the same thing based on past models, which makes sense. But every last one of them admitted this was the exact opposite trend that should have happened.
super interesting to see that even the peoples whos job it is to predict this stuff were completely blown away by what actually happened.
Re: Yes, Link's Improved "Fast Travel" In Skyward Sword HD Really Does Seem To Be Locked Behind An amiibo
@Ashunera84 My point is, as most people seem to agree, adding a feature the original didnt have, that effects the game, and isnt just cosmetic, just for the pure purpose to sell an expensive Amiibo is still pretty bad.
All the other Amiibos add a costume or mostly cosmetics. So adding an entire feature based on an extra piece, isnt good.
It also sets a precedence. People were so mad when Elder Scrolls had horse armor and it opened the door for DLC and now we have constant addons. Microtransactions and Loot boxs started with games like COD and now they are freaking everywhere. I mean, even single player games now sell currency or its hours and hours or work to get something.
Something like this can open the doors for Nintendo, or others, to do something like this but worse.
It'll sell regardless but all it does it shows Nintendo they can sell lock features behind a paywall.
Re: Ni No Kuni II: Revenant Kingdom Is Coming To Switch
@bozz See...story wise 1 is far far superior. Its more engaging, the characters i cared about..it 2, not so much.
But gameplay wise, 2 is way way better. It has loads of different game play types but it actually works. Even the RTS parts worked well. On ps4 it is unbelievably pretty.
Re: Zelda & Loftwing Is The Only amiibo Compatible With Skyward Sword HD
For people that still think that Nintendo remasters arent over priced. Just going to remind you all that the Mass Effect Trilogy, with all 3 games remastered, with some updated mechanics and updated graphics with ALL dlc...is the same price as this....and this game locks a key feature behind a limited edition paywall....you are fooling yourself if you think Nintendo's pricing makes sense.
Re: Zelda & Loftwing Is The Only amiibo Compatible With Skyward Sword HD
@CactusMan Near unplayable? Thats a huge exaggeration. I didnt have the Amiibo for it, I played the original GB version multiple times and the remake and other than a little extra time there is next to no difference.
Re: Yes, Link's Improved "Fast Travel" In Skyward Sword HD Really Does Seem To Be Locked Behind An amiibo
@Ashunera84 Oh come on.
The original version can still be pretty damn expensive and only on eBay so there is price gouging going on.
Very few people still have a Wii and even less have a Wii U.
We know Nintendo doesnt price drop first party games, they always stay at full retail. Even a rare sale sometimes drops them by $10 but that might be in 2 years if at all.
Not buying something to show them its over priced has never worked, because they only look at sales and you cant stop everyone from just not buying it. It is absolutely over priced and we all know it.
I wouldnt say undercooked like the other person. But adding fast travel, which is a simple modern mechanic..then locking it behind a very expensive pay wall is extremely scummy. Not to mention that with Amiibos being physical only eventually they will stop making them. Its impossible to find most older ones already. That means they are locking a main standard feature behind a limited edition paywall...that is not ok at all.
As for not being a necessity, of course that true. But this is still an inexcusable tactic. Hobby or not it doesnt make over pricing and scum back tactics any better. Just look at loot boxes.
Re: Yes, Link's Improved "Fast Travel" In Skyward Sword HD Really Does Seem To Be Locked Behind An amiibo
That is a huge scumbag move. I expect that from EA, Activision and now Ubisoft. But Nintendo? Thats next level scummy
Re: Random: Did You Know The Wii U Can Burn eShop Games To Discs?
@Spider-Kev Honestly it's not something I usually do. But it was before the Switch was announced and the Wii U was already a near dead system. I did it for Xenoblade Chronicles X at the time and a few others. Games went out of print and paying insane ebay prices for games just because Nintendo messed up was a hard pass.
Re: Random: Did You Know The Wii U Can Burn eShop Games To Discs?
Really, who hasn't pirated their Wii U at this point hahaha.
Given some of those insane prices its the one system i would condone pirating haha
Re: Random: Check Out These "Mock-Ups" Of Game Boy Advance For Switch Online
This will never happen because its far too good of an idea and we know how Nintendo feels about a good idea.
Re: Random: Fans Are Having A Field Day Reviewing Nintendo Switch's Calculator
@XiaoShao What about a full size character art poster?
Re: Random: Fans Are Having A Field Day Reviewing Nintendo Switch's Calculator
ooo LimitedRunGames needs to do a physical release. Seriously, it would actually sell.
Re: Random: Fans Are Having A Field Day Reviewing Nintendo Switch's Calculator
This seems insane but its becoming so viral now that it might actually sell really well
Re: Nintendo Switch Production Is Struggling To Keep Up With Demand
@johnvboy I dont understand. i didnt say anything about dropping the price in my comment. Did i miss something in the story?
Re: Sega Wants To Release Atlus Games Simultaneously Worldwide
@JayJ Budget I would imagine and to see if it actually sells.
They can use money from sales to get it localized and their games can be very niche so if the hype for it is low outside of Japan then they didnt waste money.
Re: Surprise! Nintendo Confirms That "Many" New Games Are Coming This Year
I mean really, what was the last big game anyone cared about that wasn't just a collection or remaster. Animal Crossing in march 2020?
Re: Nintendo Switch Production Is Struggling To Keep Up With Demand
@GrailUK Its not the reason you think it is. There is a world wide shortage of silicone chips. Thats likely the major issue, PS5, Monitors and GPUs are all being hit super hard
Re: Talking Point: Should Nintendo Do More DLC For Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Or Just Release Mario Kart 9 Already?
There are alot of people on here that seem ok with DLC for a 7 year old game and its super weird.
Re: Feature: Nintendo Had A Spectacular Year, And May Have Big Plans
@jakebrake The Nintendo online thing is infuriating. People pirated the games on roms because there was zero other options. Then Nintendo shut all that down and Nintendo Online is now just a platform for a few good games and 80% games no one has ever heard of.
Re: Feature: Nintendo Had A Spectacular Year, And May Have Big Plans
@K1N6AC3 No new Mario Kart in 7 years is a little nuts.
Re: Feature: Nintendo Had A Spectacular Year, And May Have Big Plans
@1ofUs No reason it would.
Re: Feature: Nintendo Had A Spectacular Year, And May Have Big Plans
@SuperCharr Yeah but the money they make on merch and licensing would be absolutely insane. The toy sales and licensing could easily fund a Switch Pro development.
Re: Great, Now Pokémon Card Scalpers Are Ruining Cereal, Too
@VoidofLight Logan Paul ruins the planet in all fairness hahahaha
Re: Talking Point: Surely It's Time For Game Boy On Nintendo Switch Online?
Lets face it they don't actually care about Nintendo Online. Almost all the NES and SNES games added have been garbage that half the user base has never even heard of. They are basically trying to add the crappiest cheapest games they can so they dont have to pay any licensing
Re: Konami Won't Be Attending E3 2021 But Still Has A Number Of Projects To Reveal
@CarlosM87 If they were smart they would just sell the right to Silent Hill. the only money they make on it now is bloody Pachinko machines, might as well give it to a studio that can do something good with it. The team behind The Evil Within could really make something special.
Re: Konami Won't Be Attending E3 2021 But Still Has A Number Of Projects To Reveal
Whos Konami? Wasnt that the game company that made some awesome stuff before they treated their staff like utter garbage and basically gave the middle finger to fans?
Their entire board needed to be fired and start again.
Re: Ni No Kuni II Might Be Coming To Switch
Personally i think the story of the first one was far superior. But graphics, gameplay, music and literally everything else is better in 2
Re: Square Enix Switch Sale Discounts Lots Of Final Fantasy Games, Balan Wonderworld And More (North America)
@Classic603 I highly doubt it. Pretty much the same story and everything else just with a chibi art style. It was a mobile game for iPhone and Android..so that should be all you need to know haha
Re: Square Enix Switch Sale Discounts Lots Of Final Fantasy Games, Balan Wonderworld And More (North America)
@jump Hey thats not fair at all. It should be discounted by $50...that way we can get paid for playing whatever that game is.
Re: Random: Another Fan Takes A Crack At Redesigning Switch's User Interface
@DDStuff This design would be easier for the devs and artists. Because it match's the cover art. dimensions. Right now they have to design a custom square.