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I see. That explains a few of my issues. I'm greatful that Capcom,Sega, and Namco have helped the VC service, but it would seem Nintendo is going to have to try harder to win back third party support.

Wii&DS vc really spoiled us. I guess that's why WiiU&3ds vc has been a underwhelming service in comparison.

The one thing I really want to get a better understanding on is the NOJ vs everywhere else situation. I would be nice to get Sonic Advance or anything Square Enix on the service. Not to mention the other games that have yet to release in NA or EU.

@Yellowkoopa It really doesn't.

@Yellowkoopa Thanks for reminding me! Nintendo completely stopped supporting 3ds virtual console!

@Zach777 The e-shope is incredibly lame compared to the stores on xbl or PSN. I believe that is why many complain. There is less sales on Nintendo's service. There is less options on nintendo's service. With my 360&ps3, I've got a decent collection of arcade and Dreamcast games. The Wii u looks like it will only receive roms from Nintemdo system's. NOA pick's some of the worst games ( mighty bomb jack) ,and ignore fan's requests for games like DKC or Metriod. That shows me the folks over at NOA are probably more business men than someone who is a actual gamer with a degree. The drip feed of content has also gotten old. I've been dealing with it since the e-shope was up and running. Nintendo has a massive amount of improvement to do on their e-shope service.

@Quorthon If it meant I could enjoy Nintendo games with my friends again, then maybe the company going third party wouldn't be such a bad thing.I just don't want to see the big N end up like Sega.

@Project_Dolphin Who needs more powerful hardware? It's not like anything third party will sell well on a Nintendo platform anyway.

Hello,Newman!

@Quorthon Makes sense to me. It would be impossible to port games like witcher 3 over to Wiiu, so there's that. As for games that the Wiiu can handle, look no further than Resident Evil Revelations. It's pretty obvious that all these RE remakes are skipping the U because the first game sold far below expectations.

@TeeJay I've gotten used to it.

@bezerker99 I wouldn't count on it.

@Quorthon I was quoting an earlier comment. I guess proper punctuation would have helped.

@hobthebob They just need to cater to the same audience they got with the Wii.

The casuals are gone for good and are not coming back. That crowd hardly contributed to software sales and would never be as reliable as the core gamer.

@hobthebob The Wii was abnormal compared to the rest of Nintendo's system's. A large percentage of users where people who had no interest in console gaming. People who didn't purchace Mario or Zelda and where content with the pack in Wii sports and maybe Hannah Montana's crap fest Mini games extravaganza.

@Grumblevolcano I didn't know that. I have to wonder how facts get confused when it comes to things like this.

A very informative article. Ive purchased so much content on my wii,360, and PS3. It makes me cringe to think one day I'll loose all of it. Still, I've had so much fun revisiting countless classic's that I don't regret the money I spent on games I don't actually own.

@HAL9000 This is true regarding the XB ONE. However, digital games on the 360 can be accessed without a Internet connection. It's been that way for awhile now.

@Larrykoopa18 Aside from a couple good DS games and sonic 4 SEGA has not done the hedgehog any favors.

@SethNintendo Virtual console doesn't seem like much of a priority now as it was with the wii.

@whodatninja Zero 2 is a great game. I'd be getting that if I didn't already own the DS collection.

@Hordak GBA games look way better on the gamepad.

@Noonch I need to get a GBA SP.

@Ryno PSN has had some good stuff. I just picked up Double Dragon Arcade archives,Tony Hawk HD, and Terraria.

It's getting to the point where I'm temped to hunt down a Gameboy Advance and Metroid Zero mission. I swear its Donkey Kong Country all over again.

@NorthLightSuplx If Nintendo wants to replicate such success it has to win back children first. You talk about how the main target audience is kids. Children don't beg their parents for the next Nintendo system like they did with the wii&ds generation and before.

@NorthLightSuplx I guess that means Bayonetta 2 is a pass for you.

@rjejr Nintendo is still in the 80's and the rest of the world isn't. After I saw the Campbell's Super Mario soup commercial I thought the same thing.

@AlexMurphy I've got a feeling we won't have that option until the next console and handheld are released.
As to why we never had the option for 3ds& wiiu cross buy in the first place is something only NOJ has the answer to.

@FLUX_CAPACITOR I certainly agree with your comment. Could this explain the poor Square Enix Virtual Console support in NA? The relationship with the big N and square has been pretty crappy since the N64. FF7 going to playstation certainly didn't do Nintendo any favors.
The gaming industry never ceases to amaze me. I never thought I'd see the day where SE would be working more closely with MS than the grandfather of gaming.

@WaveBoy King's Tower theme is definitely a good pick. The MMX series had some of my favorite tunes as well.

@IronMan28 I definitely question how well Nintendo would do as a third party developer. Im a big sega fan, and it's been tough watching the company go from the Genesis glory days to where we are now.

Love the music in cold man's stage.

@River3636 I hear ya. More rpg's would be welcome.

@River3636 3ds virtual console sure could use a shot in the arm. Maybe sega could bring over some more Game Gear games.

Mega man & Bass for me. I've been wanting to revisit this one for a long time! Thanks capcom!

@Kaze_Memaryu No offense taken. Sounds like you've put some time in with the game.

@Quorthon Makes sense. Reggie is a corporate mouth peace for the most part. I just can't believe how horrible customer support has been for me at NOA . I've sent my n3ds in several times for repair, and NOA keeps saying they fixed my problem and yet the factory defect is still present in the unit. The unit is under warranty for another eight months and after my last phone call I have a NOA manager saying they might not be able to fix the problem. He pretty much wanted me to stop calling after the (final) repair. Its like they dont have a good understanding of the hardware they're selling and don't care to stand behind their product.

@Quorthon Take a guy from a completely different industry and put him in charge of NOA. No wonder my "new" 3ds has been in and out of repair for the last eight weeks.

@Kaze_Memaryu My friends and myself find voice chat very useful in titanfall. I don't just assume all my friends are going to drop their Titans five minutes into the match. We communicate with each other to coordinate the best possible time to gain the upper hand on the opposing team.Its also nice to know where a enemy is located after my teammate has been taken out. If we where just blindly running into battle we would be loosing more than winning.

A person is not a fanboy for stating obvious facts. 3rd party games have not sold well on Wiiu. If black ops 2 sold well, then we would be seeing more COD games. wiiu has the same install base as the xb1,so we can't say Nintendo doesn't have enough wiiu users to sell games. Nearly every 3rd party studio has walked away from nintendo's home console because the games are not selling well enough to justify the cost of porting them. With software development of the 360&ps3 slowing down there would be even less of those ports available for wiiu if 3rd parties had a reason to stick around.
I'm a Nintendo fan through and through man. If I could get most of the games that Xb and ps have my Nintendo systems would get more use than any other console. I haven't had that since the gamecube. All of my friends left Nintendo after the wii.Its all xb and ps now. I work with parents who grew up gaming, and their kids are growing up playing skylanders and Disney infinity games on xb&ps. Nintendo is losing relevance in today's gaming market. Part of this is due to the out of touch leadership of Nintendo of Japan. The other problem is third party games have not sold well on the system.

@thatguyEZ Well said.

@bitleman Lets just agree to disagree.

@Raycon Agreed. I wish capcom would put more effort into the MM franchise.

@bitleman If Konami "betrayed" Nintendo, then I guess that means the rest of the 3rd party studios that make up the industry are guilty of that as well. konami is just doing what everyone else in the industry is doing. When the wiiu launched it has several 3rd party games from the likes Activision& Ubisoft. So, what happened? What software publisher/developer would want to spend the money and effort to port a game to a system that may or may not sell well? It might have helped if the wiiu was up to the standards of the xb1&ps4, so games like the Witcther 3 would be possible to port, but if nobody buys the game then what is the point.
Nintendo wants to do things their own way, and if no one jumps on board, then that's their loss. That's how I percieve their way of thinking. Its as if they believe they are still the dominant force in gaming that they where in the 80's& 90's.

@thatguyEZ I was being sarcastic. I know it's nearly impossible to tell that from text versus speaking in person.I never thought the subscription based service was a big deal. I spend way more than 50 dollars a year on games.

@mjc0961 Yeah, ps+ Is such a horrible service. Paying 50 dollars a year is such a outlandish fee, who would ever get behind that business model?
I remember when anyone even mentioned Nintendo getting into the mobile market, and the diehard fans thought it was the worst idea ever. It's happening now and no one is complaining about it one bit.
If Nintendo ever went the subscription route with its online services I'm sure everyone would go along with that decision because it's Nintendo. I certainly would be more than happy to pay a yearly fee to have a up to date online infrastructure instead of what we have now. Don't you think Nintendo could put that money to good use?

@Neko_Rukiafan I think articles like this one are a good thing. NL is taking the time to get some insight about how fans feel about the service and changes that could improve virtual console,as it's obvious that many feel the service is lacking. It's not like nintendo has made any effort to improve the service, and the fact they don't feel the need to even explain why the vc system is set up the way it is makes me believe customer/fan feedback means as little to them as the vc service itself.

psn and Xbox live and steam didn't become the great services that they are over night. It took years to get these services to where they are now through listening to the fan base and good relations with third party studios.

@BLPs Its called a prepaid card chief. It's a gamble placing your personal information anywhere online.

@Koz PS4&Xb1 will not limit digital purchases accessibility to a renewed account forever. I can access my 360 digital purchases when my gold account expires, and it was not that way to begin with. Nintendo is in this industry to make money just like the other guys.I will not re-pay to transfer my wiiu vc games to the next system.

@BLPs If your happy with 1st party titles then your covered. ps3&360 have released more Saturn,dreamcast, and arcade titles than nintendo.Sure, nintendo has a impressive back catalogue, but wiiu is missing several awesome games like Samurai Showdown 2 that have been on said consoles for nearly a decade. It's Nintendo that limits the virtual console, not the otherway around.

@Ferret The PS3 has decent library of classic console/arcade games. I think you downplay the competition a bit.