Reprise

Are we missing the fact that thanks to the leakers we already knew Galaxy 2 wouldn't be included?

Why are people acting shocked when we knew literally every minute detail about this collection for months?

The leakers informed us:

• Mario 64, Mario Sunshine and Mario Galaxy would be packaged together as part of a 'Mario 3D All Stars Collection
• Mario Galaxy 2 would not be included
• These will be slightly enhanced HD ports, but will not be elaborate remasters
• Mario 3D World Deluxe will be ported separately

Literally every detail leaked turned out to be true...

@TG16_IS_BAE The chances are that the game would need huge changes to the code to be made in order to accommodate a widescreen aspect ratio being implemented. A lot of older games just don't play nice when forcing a widescreen mode, as developers usually created them with 4:3 in mind. This meant 'off screen' various weird pop ins, stuck character models or other bizarre aspects occur, as the developer always intended the area to be hidden.

Unfortunately lots of older games have struggled or failed to implement widescreen when being ported to modern systems.

I hope it doesn't take too long to come to the West!

@Collette I hope (but somewhat doubt) the rumours they were recruiting ex AKI developers to make an AEW game are true.

Well that was *****.

I would love Sega to look at porting some of its later arcade titles, as well as Saturn and Dreamcast games. I would also like some ports of the more recent 3D Sonic games, specifically Colours, Generations and Lost World. I'm one of the few that really likes 3D Sonic games, even some of the more mediocre ones.

Now I think about it, unless it's a Genesis or Mega Drive game, Sega really doesn't re-release its games an awful lot, does it? There have been a few HD ports/remasters, like Jet Set Radio, Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 and a few other Dreamcast games, but otherwise not many at all and especially on Nintendo platforms. Why didn't Switch get the recent Shenmue I and II Collection, for example?

So yeah, I want:
Virtua Fighter 1 - 5 anthology with Fighters Megamix included as a bonus (I can dream)
Sonic Colours/Generations/Lost World Collection
Sega Rally
Jet Set Radio HD Collection
Crazy Taxi 1 and 2
Skies of Arcadia
Shenmue I and II
Burning Rangers
Rez
Cosmic Smash
Panzer Dragoon 1, Zwei, Saga and Orta

Here we go again... Given how much Nintendo loves hardware revisions in their handheld range, I think it's a given we will get some kind of 'Switch Pro' at some point. Still, it would be nice to go at least a few months without reading "OMG the Switch Pro is totally coming out soon" rumours.

I bet Spawn Wave and RGT85 have already uploaded videos frothing at the mouth over this, haven't they?

Or don't, pre-order from elsewhere and save yourself 8 or 9 pounds...

We know, we know...

Couldn't they put their time and effort into making a game less crap?

@CowCatcher I mean you can already get Pikmin 3 for about £40 if you shop around.

I just preordered from ShopTo for £40.71 and it still came with the micro fibre cloth... plus a sticker sheet.

@Bunkerneath I don't think that's what @MasterJay meant. I believe so called "insiders" claimed that an Indie World would be happening this week, followed by "something bigger" (I think it was alluded to being another Direct or something) happening a week later.

@BenAV I would guess because it's an Amazon listing, rather than a random small retailer that is only placed in one country, that it's probably less likely that this one is bullsh*t or untrue. But as I said, I'm just guessing.

FFS. I was really hopeful for a Switch port

I'd love to have this on Switch! Especially as I already pay for Nintendo Online, but am not currently a Playstation Plus subscriber...

@tourjeff Yeah, I'm doing the same re backlog. I'm actually currently playing through some of my Vita backlog (currently trying to finally finish the Nonary Games series). I did pick up Burnout Paradise and Crysis, but unfortunately got bored of them pretty quickly. Burnout Paradise is good, but in the end it just wasn't the Burnout I wanted (2 and 3 are my personal favourites). Crysis is also good, but I really dislike the way it handles saving the game. The auto save function put me off after a while. I wish I had the freedom to go back to manual saves.

I'm glad the Switch has got some great ports this year, but it's just unfortunate that I have already played a lot of them.

@Rpg-lover I was being a but trolly and childish, but being completely honest, neither Paper Mario and Animal Crossing games are for me I'm afraid. I've been waiting on Doom Eternal and hopefully those Mario ports/remasters at some point.

Nothing, because Nintendo haven't bothered releasing any games this year.

Amazon and GAME are rip offs. Everyone knows you just preorder from ShopTo, SimplyGames, Base or one of the other various online retailers where it'll no doubt be about £40ish.

I would have been more tempted if it was a bundle of Ikaruga and Radiant Silvergun. I already have both the Dreamcast and Gamecube versions, so not sure there's much point in triple dipping. It's cool it exists though, although I hope it's not too expensive, given the eShop version is reasonably priced...

@pip_muzz Unfortunately the level remains cut in the Switch version.

Yes please! Looks like they nailed the style and the fact they have Naganuma involved is also promising, since the music was a big part of the Jet Set Radio games. Jet Set Radio is one of my favourite games of all time. I've been wondering why they haven't done a HD collection of the DC original and Future on modern consoles (especially as JSR had an HD port last generation), but I'll happily take this in the meantime.

@KryptoniteKrunch Every time a port is announced there is always a bunch of naysayers who like to p*ss on everyone's parade, because heaven forbid anyone actually enjoys their Switch and likes to play AAA ports on a portable. I'm always glad when those miserable joyless sods are proven wrong.

@PikaPhantom Yeah, I agree.

@PikaPhantom In Nintendo's defence, it's just got to be Covid related and adjusting to working from home, hasn't it? I mean, I really doubt last year Nintendo decided they were going to release two games and do **** all for most of 2020. It does suck though. I wish they would just forget marketing and be direct (no pun intended) with their fans, announce the games that are in the pipeline, explain they have been delayed and provide a new rough release schedule.

It was a complete waste of time. What was the point? Publishers and developers are capable of releasing their own trailers and announcements, are they not? I'm not completely opposed to the idea, but it needs to be at least 15 minutes and have more reveals. No one watches a Direct to see WWE Battlegrounds for Christ sake.

For as much ***** as this game seemed to get, for whatever reason, they have done loads of FMV Interactive Movies in the past and a lot of them were apparently pretty good. The Bunker, Doctor Dekker and Late Shift were all reasonably well received by gamers and critics. There's no reason Gamer Girl couldn't have been as enjoyable as their previous games (if you're into these kind of games), but people are so quick to judge.

For crying out loud. It's a novel idea - I know - but how about waiting until the game is released and try playing it before deciding the game is "gross", "unnecessary" and "problematic"?

I think Doom Eternal might get its release date announced and some footage shown. Someone from Bethesda was saying the other week they would be sharing news on the Switch release date very soon.

I am so glad you mentioned Pushover. I loved that game as a kid. I think it was the first puzzle game I ever played.

@Collette I don't disagree with you. That's why I was careful to also mention the fanboys who feel the need to defend their games to the death and mass rate them 10/10, even if they're flawed entries in beloved franchises. What you outlined is equally infantile and silly. As long as people can articulate why they don't enjoy or do enjoy a game and are respectful, I don't see an issue.

Trolling is an overused and misused word nowadays, but I don't think silly exaggerations and childish language is constructive. I guarantee not a single game that has been mass rated 0/10, or 10/10 on the other end of the spectrum, as part of some petty protest, is actually a 0/10 or 10/10 game.

To be honest, going back to your original point about sending messages to developers or publishers, well there's already a way to do that: Sales. Don't like it? Don't buy it. Like it? Buy it. If sales are strong but you think the game sucks or if sales are weak but you think the game is the best thing ever (and people in your favourite sub reddit or wherever agrees with you well), as I said, you're probably part of a vocal minority...

@Collette I get that, to a point, but what happened to nuance? I can't stand hyperbole. Also, some gamers (and people in general, as this isn't exclusive to video game discussions) need to understand that just because they and their online echo chamber like/dislike something, doesn't mean they are representative of the feelings of the community or society as a whole. More often than not, they're a very vocal minority.

Review bombing is really pathetic. Who are these people who take video games so seriously that they decide any transgression from what they personally feel is acceptable for a video game must be punished? Who is so insecure about their own opinions that they feel the need to have it validated by manipulating the user score on metacritic? And yes, the same goes for people who will rate games 10/10, when they don't actually believe it's that good, but just because they want to raise the user score more effectively.

@HappyMaskedGuy Agreed. Crash is a product of its time and has aged poorly. Mario did 3D right and is timeless. Crash just took the 2D plane of 2D platformers and flipped the perspective, creating a linear tunnel. They were fun at the time, but not great games.

Alien Isolation is really impressive. You can barely tell there has been any downgrade at all and, as Digital Foundry point out, in some areas graphical touches have actually been added and improved upon since the PS4 version.

@DanTee I went from "haha this is so bad it's kinda fun" to "holy ***** this is good!" in the duration of my playthrough of the first game. The story, the characters and the world are all amazing. I loved how you could step outside of the main quest and do your own investigations, exploring the numerous side quests. Each one adds so much to the characters and really enriches the overall story.

@xzacutor I don't know if you know this, but the first game did kinda have fast travel. It was a reward for a side quest you could complete (and it's possible to do it right at the beginning of the game).

The framerate is really bad and, in addition to that, the game doesn't look great a lot of the time, particularly in handheld (particularly the character models). I don't personally think it makes the game "unplayable" though. That's just hyperbole in my opinion.

That said, the game does have problems beyond the aforementioned framerate and visual issue... I'm not too far in, but so far it is just not gripping me in the way the first game did. There is so much dialogue, yet none of it particularly interesting. York doesn't come across as the same character from the first game. It's weird, it's almost like he's playing a parody of himself. As for the setting and the characters, they just don't have the same compelling and interesting vibe the first game had. I'm giving it a chance, but so far, the game feels weird... like it's missing the spark the first game had and instead feels kind of hollow.

So at a guess, I would imagine this is because the Switch version was the target platform and then they built upon that foundation for the other versions. The game was probably good to go and they have already squeezed as much out of the hardware as they can, therefore there is no point delaying the Switch version.

Funnily enough, the first game was actually a timed exclusive for the Sega Saturn (albeit a very short one).

I might pick this up, depending the price and the games included in the collection. I do have a bit of a soft spot for the series and enjoy most of the games. It would be a shame if none of the recent reboot era games are included though, as it would be nice for all eras to have some representation... As amazing as they look, there is no reason why at least the first two new reboot games couldn't run on the Switch. The first game was initially on PS3/360 and Rise of the Tomb Raider was released on 360.

That's not what Jim Sterling's tweet here suggests: https://mobile.twitter.com/JimSterling/status/1280886720939134979

I always groan whenever I see an article about the first review for a hotly anticipated new game and then see it's Famitsu... Their scores never really give any indication of the quality of a game, since they somehow seem to aware every game a score in the mid to upper 30s (as shown by all their Paper Mario review scores).

@JimmySpades Exactly. Also, what's wrong with enjoying portable gaming? TG16 seems to mock those who prefer portable gaming (or the flexibility the Switch offers), but I don't know why. For me, portable > fancier graphics. As long as the game plays well and runs decently enough, I'd much rather play on Switch.

That's pretty sweet for those who want it, but I don't think I will be double dipping. It's too short (even with post-game content) to justify it in my opinion. It's a wonderful, charming experience though, so great news regardless.

18/21. This quiz made me realise I must own way too many games, since on nearly every one I thought "oh that's easy, I own this one". Although I did manage to mess up one of the ones I own...

Yes! This is brilliant news. Herzog Zwei is one of my favourite games of all time and is easily a top 5 Mega Drive/Genesis title for me. Once you get into it, it's really addictive and there's nothing else quite like it. I still own and play my Mega Drive copy regularly.

Something I haven't seen anyone here mention, but supposedly (according to some people in the Kickstarter comments) Yetee completed the customs declaration form incorrectly, stating the game's value is higher than it actually is, which resulted in higher tax fees. If this is the case, then that is really *****.

I can't verify as I haven't received my copy yet. Can anyone here?

@Sonicvic That's what I want to know too.