RandomBlue

I'd be fine not seeing anything besides the occasional animated short. Transitions from video game to movie rarely perform well.

@MajorTom Same.
I have no interest in talking of something when the other was being clearly rude. Its no longer a good discussion nor belong here. To answer, it is because those elements are overshadowed. Theres an overabundance on its style/friendship which overshadows elements that are classic with smt. I enjoy seeing dark things, not that it needs to be pure gore. My point was that its not it didnt show much resemblance to smt. Nintendo never showed off anything that indicated any dark or serious elements. Seemed to closely resemble persona which is more about friendship. It has had dark themes as @uzuki mentioned, but it was never a huge focal point. Persona is seen more as friendship, work to save the world etc, and smt of darker, serious topics.
Edit: While its a spinoff, i look/compare those two games differently. I dont see them as the same.

@MajorTom I didnt expect it to offend someone too this extent, but that is true. I should have worded that differently/better
not sure what the "you only" is for because its not like im the only one with this opinion but alright.
Its no problem though. I said ill purchase it when it hits discount so its not like im a soured fan who refuses to support it.

@MajorTom From the name, not the trailer. Not according to what i said. I dont see why you intend to argue. People have different opinions that are not yours. I dont even care what your flawed points are because you have been rude for no reason. Just because its nintendo doesnt mean it cant be criticized by someone else. Just enjoy the game for what it is instead of continuing to try to find a way to tell someone that they are wrong about it online. ....and yes i realize i commented again..

Its not the game we were promised lol
No it didnt deliver these are personal opinions. If you get insulted by someone having different opinions get off the internet. Nothing i have said has been rude but my own thoughts. This will be my last comment, Im not going to spend time trying to argue.

Here are yours since you want an example:
"Demons attacking Tokyo and stuff isn't exactly realistic is it?"
"My point still stands. You having different expectations is not the same as it being promised to you."

And no i was respectful and just explained what i thought about a video game. Here are one of mine.
"But i can understand your points, albeit i cant agree with them."

Have a good day.

Point? I never said it couldnt. Its a feature that resembles a persona game most of the time. Yeah i had different expectations, i expected it to have smt elements moreso than personas happy go lucky atmosphere and acting passive aggressive doesnt help your argument.

@MajorTom Devil survivor has it, not every game but it does.
Persona every game has had a modern day setting. Which is why i relate those two together.

@uzuki Cant speak for the first 3 games. Only played through p3, 4.
And they are not just as dark. P3 had instances where characters would *** but it didnt get much darker than that. P4 only dark where it showed bodies and even then it was pretty mild and didnt show much.

@MajorTom Its a nice nod to them. However, the game screams persona as all the reasons that ive already stated. It seems like so little from the mainline games from my perspective. Its deserving of the criticize it earns, but its mostly nintendos fault for deciding to unveil it when it was not ready. Its not that im furious about the game but dissapointed that it was not at all what many were expecting. But i can understand your points, albeit i cant agree with them.

@MajorTom A repost of one my my past comments:
And no i did not expect to see it in that form since it is a crossover game, but i expected to see aspects of those themes in some way which are nonexistent.
My point being it bears no resemblance to smt.

Atmosphere, look, jpop, friendship clear resemblance to persona. Not smt. Edit: And not forget the mirages/persona copy

@MajorTom While persona is a spinoff game, they are vastly different from the smt games. Persona settings are in modern day japan, high school life simulation, more up beat and lively atmospheres, and friendship/all that jazz.

And yes they definitely did, its in the title. Shin Megami tensei. Not persona. And the new persona isnt even having smt in the title. It uses facets such as demons etc. but it has become its own series.

And the argument,: "They never told you they would keep it as "dark, realistic, and apocalyptic," is INCREDIBLY silly to say. Talk about games like paper mario or metroid for example. You can use the same argument for those to be honest. Oh they never told you that they would keep it as a great open adventure rpg filled with great characters, partners. You let yourself get your hopes up, so you have no reason to complain. And not that the new metroid game cant be good it can be for all we know, but it doesnt even have samus(as main character) which would obviously upset fans.

When i said realistic, i meant how it tackled personal strife and deciding what to do what was morally right or wrong. No, i do not think having demons attacking is realistic.

Lastly, persona has had "dark" themes to it. They are just very mild and do not show much gore. The difference is actually playing the games and its evident in smt4 final announcement teaser for example. That stuff is way direct dark. Which again, more similarities bearing to persona and not the mainline games.

@uzuki Interesting, the combat has looked really well polished and i cant wait to give it a try when it hits discounts (which since its atlus will probably be a while).

And no i did not expect to see it in that form since it is a crossover game, but i expected to see aspects of those themes in some way which are nonexistent.
My point being it bears less resemblance to smt.

@MajorTom Persona has the same battle system.
And the smt games are known and beloved because of their dark, realistic, and apocalyptic themes which are nonexistent. Its a crossover between persona and fire emblem like i have said and not a true smt game.

@MajorTom Shin Megami Tensei x Fire Emblem was announced.

@MajorTom No did not expect the transition from smt to persona. Im not discrediting the finished game, but as a fan yes i am dissapointed as it did not deliver on what the 1st trailer was promising.

And tbh they shouldve held off from showing the 1st trailer, clear that it was early in development and why it changed so much throughout

Not the game we were promised, but its not a disaster like mighty number 9.

The physics engine was well worth the delay and with the NX coming up (eventually) it wasnt a surprise. Id like to know what improvements the NX can implement.

I dont have a problem with this game. The problem is titling this paper mario when it completely ignore its past entries. Any other name and there would be rightfully less hate. Its an average, fun side mario 40$ game. But Nintendo stop trying to pass this off as the next expansion in the mario universe. Fans wont embrace this game just because you place paper mario as the title. It is an insult to previous entries and the lackluster sales will reflect that.

Finally an open world zelda game

@Gamecubed I understand but as a fan and someone who purchased a wii u, i cant say im happy

@MrYuzhai After having no real mario, zelda or animal crossing on wii u, I really like to hope so.

And yes zelda is coming and theyve made plenty of remakes while we wait, but BotW is coming at the end of the wii u life cycle. Why should anyone buy one when the NX is out.

It looked nice, but it was what everyone was expecting. There was nothing impressive or anything new, passable performance from ninendo.

@greengecko007 Sadly enough. The series has been cut down and has no heart attatched to it.

Its miyamotos fault. As great a developer he used to be, he deserves the blame for what the lifeless series it has become. And then theres starfox...

Tokyo mirage sessions was all it took to shatter any hopeful expectations from nintendo. sigh

Censored.

Besides Persona 5 no other game has me more excited!

I get that this was supposed to be sweet but there are million of better ways to propose.
Pretty cringey imo but to each their own.

More hearts?
KINGDOM HEARTS CONFIRMED

People still watch family guy? Huh, okay

Any character can be realizable, he is a game developer, especially when we have the dang duckhunt dog and game&watch in. Bayonetta was not the most voted realizable candidate.

And clearly, stating shrek and goku are not realizable characters, its common sense. No one who voted for them actually believe they would make it into the game. And the amount of people who wasted their vote on them is the same amount of people who enjoyed smash tour. Bayo mightve been around 5th overall but she is not the majority vote.

@smashbrolink @Vandy
"Realizable."

There's little doubt that Shovel Knight and even King K Fool were the top 2 candidates and the top voted for overall. Bayonetta was popular no doubt, but the majority of people wanted the likes of SK and others more. Which is why he said "realizable."

In truth anyone could easily be made into a character (some more difficult than others aka Ridley, King K). Characters like SK/inklings are "realizable." It's just what sakurai wanted and felt like doing. If she was top voted overall, why not just say so outright. Its a simple way to avoid backlash and upsetting fans. Only so many can be made into characters and he choose her for whatever reason along with corrin for promotion.

I doesn't matter too much in the end. She's a nice addition to the game regardless of her ranking and I'm just pleased to see added content. The roster has over 50 characters which is WAY more than what i would've expected pre release. Although I still hope Shantae will make it in maybe when NX is revealed.

But come on sakurai, hurry up and give us an actual tourney mode that doesn't suck >_< (The online mode is a joke and its saddening to see he was too lazy to have a proper offline mode.)

Now that bayo is no longer a problem, time to escalate Cloud and ryu as the biggest problem to the smash community.

Screw learning the matchup and how to sdi, complaining on the internet is a much more effective method for handling and overcoming this nonsense.
Get rekt bayo mains.

Yes because 8 player smash is totally so much fun for the players. If they want to make a large brawl, assign a team leader to a team of 4 to make it more strategic somewhat. Competitive smash scenes won't accept random free for all brawls as they shouldn't.

Good thing i stopped caring for this game a while ago. Dont care to play this on a home console, but i suppose if it doesnt get changed again it will be a blessing to those waiting so long. Playing on a a handheld and on my vita is much more relaxing

Right after I overcame my amiibo craze. Ehh o well, these look great and will be worth a buy

Less Water pls

RIP Wii u owners

Federation force? Nah, maybe if I liked wasting money but I'll pass.

Poor Europe though

Yes!!!! All my hype! Atlus is going to drain all my money

Hmm not sure why Zelda is included. Almost no recent news and won't launch spring.

"I like the direction paper Mario and metroid have headed...."
Said no one ever.

As someone who owns vita and 3ds, I can't wait for chance to use vita again!

Happy birthday Atlus! My favorite developers!!

@beautifulstrong it's impossible to balance any roster in any fighting game so they're equally fair and balanced especially one with over 50 characters. And no randomized tournaments is beyond silly. @shaneoh sure stand by your opinion. Plenty of people come up with dumb ideas all the time

@RandomBlue - edited the r-word out, it is included in the profanity filter.

My apologies.

Why couldn't it have been the character that I use (blaziken)? 😂

No but seriously this needs patching.

@Splatburst Oh really? From what I had understood, you had to purchase the 3ds to unlock Wii u bonus content

@Splatburst very true. But I'm still overly displeased with Hyrule Warriors Legends for one reason. It's ridiculous that they are selling the 3ds version as the only way to get the characters for Wii u. So basically; if you were foolish enough to buy it early or wanted to play it in HD, you have to fork down 100$. There's no reason for this at all except to squeeze another 40$ out of your wallets. In that way it's a complete cashgrab. They need to make it so that you can download the season packs on any version without wasting money on literally the same game. The only reason to pick up both versions I suppose is for on the go I suppose, but it's not worth it imo

Is there any limit to how many Wii us the 3ds version to scan to?