@jobunker I'm not sure if your aware but there are only of handful of truly original games out there. Game ideas/mechanics are frequently stolen from. Funny thing is many games take a lot of ideas from Nintendo. Not that I care one way or the other, but so what if Nintendo responds in kind? The direction Zelda should take is something that will be debated for ages, no point in getting ruffled feathers over it. Fans will either disagree, agree, or won't care. I haven't seen anything on the story to even know what direction the new game has taken to make any call on it.
I don't want to speculate on what NX can or can't do, will or won't have, because Nintendo spins EVERYTHING its best to wait and see what it actually than take their word for it 9-10 months before release. Anything can change in that time, and likely will.
If I didn't have my PC which is cheaper for me in terms of gaming than buying a new console every few years. I would have a Xbox, or a PS4. But as it stands I'm not missing anything, except not having a Nintendo console.
While that isn't the view of the majority of people who game, it is a reality. Speaking for people who don't have a PC like a few of my friends, without kids, its a no-brainer for them get one of the two behemoth's in the market, they have better diversity of game genres then Nintendo will ever have this generation. Also playing while playing the same games on Sony and Xbox get old so does solely playing Nintendo characters.
Nintendo does really need to reconsider what they want from their next console, and how it will appeal to the market at large. I'm sure they'll lose some fans. Then again Nintendo never does anything just for the fans, they do it to be Nintendo, sometimes its a hit, and other times not.
I've never clung to Nintendo for anything breathtaking in terms of raw power, my PC does that fine. I've only clung to Nintendo for its fun experiences for my and my family and it hasn't disappointed .
@nab1 True, but the linchpin is that is only works for that certain aspect of games, which would only appeal to a select few. We'd all love for VR not to be "best enjoyed" from sitting on a couch, because, again, what's the point. There are only so many games that can utilize VR well and they are usually all in the same category, or sub-category of genres. Not that they aren't fun, or that I wouldn't play the hell out of it, but it'll get tired very quickly.
@nab1 There's the rub, I didn't flat out mention it initially but movement (i.e. walking) is one of the biggest points of VR that have the greatest limitations. Unless you want to buy one of those gaming treadmills also.
I agree that the best thing for VR is something with limited movement, something like a fighter pilot sim. Then again what's the point in just having a sitting simulation when I can be doing that very thing by sitting on a couch looking at my tv, all the while being super comfortable.
I believe someone said it best, in the midst of our posts, that a truly great VR experience would be something like the Danger Room, or the Holodeck from Star Trek (I added that last one). Anything other than that is just us wanting something before its time.
@nab1 I respect yours as well. What doesn't hold up? The fact that devs are still struggling to make out what to do with VR, or the price point? My argument was never the technology, of course it has changed drastically over 20 years, it had changed drastically over 5 years.
My whole point was there still isn't much depth to VR, as of yet, and a lot of its limitations are still very apparent. A lot of people will see those limitations before blowing a lot of money away on a headset, but some won't until after the fact. If people thought the gamepad was a gimmicky they are in for a not so pleasant surprise.
And again the halolens is has greatest potential of anything that is currently being offered or upcoming, it has many practical applications and uses. No so much as a gaming device but there a few things for it that look promising.
@nab1 Back then there were actually a handful of games, like today, and entertainment vehicles for it. Hell even the Army was using it as a way of therapy, and training for its soldiers, again like today. The funny thing about it then was that some weren't as big and bulky as they are now. The price point is still the same, if not slightly cheaper, back then it was around $500-$600 for a set, depending on the company.
Game devs were struggling 20 years ago also with concepts as well. Like I said: Nothing new under the sun. A lot of the critics of VR aren't just fanboys/girls of actual reality, we've just seen it all before.
I love how must of the people who are all about VR never grew up in the 80's and 90's when the fad then was VR (and laser discs). It was supposed to revolutionize gaming, and entertainment...it didn't, and it probably won't now. There were cool concepts and uses for it back then as well, most of which are the same as now, but alas it wasn't meant to be.
There were plenty of companies that were all about VR, and many made it to consumer's homes, but it just one of those things that never quite caught on, for obvious reasons. There is point in total immersion that just doesn't work quite right with VR. Which I'll just grab my popcorn and watch as they all come roaring back once again 2 decades later. The saying that "There is nothing new under the sun." is quite apt when it comes to this resurgence in the VR craze. Us older gamers have seen it before, most likely we'll see it once more, maybe it'll be better the third time around but as it stands now it is pretty much exactly how it was some 20 years ago.
I'm not a total curmudgeon, I think that the only system that has merit is the halolens but that is technically AR.
@BlatantlyHeroic @Interneto @KH22 My point being that Pokemon was not the main focus whatsoever. Pokemon was just a "Oh yea and this game is coming out also." While Pokemon does sell more across regions than probably any other game has, except Mario, its starting to get tired. Pokemon is still loved for sure, but not to the extent as it use to be.
Overall Zelda is still highly regarded as a top tier game. Its viewed much more highly than Pokemon in reviews and in public opinion. Probably due to it not being released frequently. Now don't get me wrong I played Pokemon to death back in the day, but at a certain point it just becomes like CoD in terms of repetition with slight variations here and there.
I do agree that it wasn't done justice in regards to those who love Pokemon, but in retrospect Zelda is something that has been highly anticipated since 2013, people have been waiting with anticipation, anger, and other emotions for years. Pokemon just doesn't garner that level of excitement as it used to.
My question is when they release these titles, especially the DS ones that feature multiplayer, is there no way to have it log into the new Nintendo servers?
Knowing a game has stellar multiplayer, then it gets released without it does make me want to bother with it one bit.
The interface is probably THE best feature of the eshop. The sluggishness of buying games is a bit of down tick, but nothing too severe.
I think a vast majority have a gripe with Nintendo's definition of "sale" when compared to every other outlet for sales whether its Sony, Microsoft, or Steam. To be more fair to Nintendo, as far as comparisons go, the prices for the same games on amazon, EB, and other vendors when compared to eshop is the hands down THE BIGGEST complaint to their online presence.
It boggles the mind how they can't be so stubborn on their prices, well not really but that's a whole other conversation involving business terms that I'd rather not get into.
Can't say enough good things about the Phoenix Wright series, currently playing it over Fire Emblem: Fates and that saying something.
I've always wanted to try out Retro City Rampage: DX, but by the time I get some time carved out for it the sequel will be out and it looks sooooo much better.
@SmaMan Provided its between now and 6 months otherwise poof. I have over 1.2k platinum, fewer gold, but I'm not too willing to shell out more money for gold coins just to lose them. My Nintendo with no good rewards coupled with point expiration actually is making some savvy shoppers not buy many games initially because of it.
@Barbiegurl777 Just click the arrow next to North American, should sort the list to current year releases and those that don't have a release date as of yet.
@HSuzumiyaVI This is why you and me see eye to eye, you just make sense.
The fanboyism will be the death of me. Its totally unrealistic to think a company will provide you with a game you will like every single time, or that game should be made the way you want it to be made. I love how some take so much time describing, at length, what a game should or should not be. If it means that much to you it might be time to put on the indie developer hat, otherwise your just setting your setting yourself up with unrealistic expectations every time.
@Nintendofan83 I feel you, I was in the same boat myself. I opted to get a 3DS along side my Wii U. I'm happy to say I wasn't disappointed. Its rare when I actually have the time to sit down for a proper gaming session on a console. If I do my daughter wants me to play minecraft, or trade off on some online splatoon matches. So the portability of the 3DS, the quality, variety, and sheer number of games has wowed me.
@Barbiegurl777 Your kidding right? 3DS will have at least a total of 27 games, if not more, released this year alone. With a huge salvo coming between June-November That's not counting hidden gems like pocket jockey. My wallet weeps.
@HSuzumiyaVI If that's the case then it seemingly isn't a good video. I can see 10-12 years old, loosely. The 13-18 only if they aren't as bright as they used to be.
@Sakura Oh its not just you. I gave up on the "why" long ago, as it would only lead to an brain aneurysm. At this point I'm leaning towards they maybe a cult and only a special test would allow us access into their world/way of thinking.
@Sakura Well they did say it was the only playable demo, not the only game. Guess we'll have to experience the others vicariously through the treehouse hosts.
Like i said earlier Nintendo's PR is on the job. People have been talking about nothing but Nintendo, for better or for worse, since they announced the original E3 lineup, and now they have few more days in the news cycle, staying in people's minds until E3.
There are still plenty of games in Nintendo's line up, mainly 3DS, that isn't slated to be talked about during E3. Either because they are going to be released around the same time, or because they are due out in 2017.
Well since they are already announced/introduced games technically they aren't "New". Well played Nintendo...well played.
EDIT: There are honestly way too many games coming for the 3DS, not so much for the Wii U, that failing to mention would be a total death knell for Nintendo.
They never said Zelda would be the ONLY game shown, they said it would be the only "playable demo". Poor choice of wording on Nintendo PR's part, or genius who knows people were still frothing at the mouth about it until this news came out. All the while people are talking about Nintendo the entire time. I gotta hire Nintendo PR.
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Re: Nintendo Download: 23rd June (Europe)
Mirage Sessions has DLC?! I had no idea.
Dream team has been on my list for quite a while now guess its time to pick it up.
Re: Hands On: Waiting for the End of the World in Shin Megami Tensei IV: Apocalypse
Never tried these games I'm a little leery of getting into a series this far in.
Re: Nintendo Outlines Key Goals to Ensure NX Success
@jobunker Your right, your facts are sound. I always forget to never come between an angry gamer and his rant.
Re: First Impressions: Going Under the Gavel With Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Spirit of Justice
@Pokefanmum82 $59.99 CAD = 46.50 USD currently which is really steep compared to $29.99 USD
Re: First Impressions: Going Under the Gavel With Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Spirit of Justice
@Pokefanmum82 With the, current, exchange rate that's only 3 dollars more than the US version.
@MrCafecito That exchange rate is just outrageous! I would have imported, If I had the chance with those prices.
Re: Nintendo Outlines Key Goals to Ensure NX Success
@jobunker I'm not sure if your aware but there are only of handful of truly original games out there. Game ideas/mechanics are frequently stolen from. Funny thing is many games take a lot of ideas from Nintendo. Not that I care one way or the other, but so what if Nintendo responds in kind? The direction Zelda should take is something that will be debated for ages, no point in getting ruffled feathers over it. Fans will either disagree, agree, or won't care. I haven't seen anything on the story to even know what direction the new game has taken to make any call on it.
I don't want to speculate on what NX can or can't do, will or won't have, because Nintendo spins EVERYTHING its best to wait and see what it actually than take their word for it 9-10 months before release. Anything can change in that time, and likely will.
Re: Delays With The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild Due to Physics Engine and Dual Release Decision
@AcridSkull The kicker: He still buys it and enjoys it
Re: Editorial: Nintendo Did A Solid Job at E3 2016, But That Didn't Ease Long-Term Concerns
If I didn't have my PC which is cheaper for me in terms of gaming than buying a new console every few years. I would have a Xbox, or a PS4. But as it stands I'm not missing anything, except not having a Nintendo console.
While that isn't the view of the majority of people who game, it is a reality. Speaking for people who don't have a PC like a few of my friends, without kids, its a no-brainer for them get one of the two behemoth's in the market, they have better diversity of game genres then Nintendo will ever have this generation. Also playing while playing the same games on Sony and Xbox get old so does solely playing Nintendo characters.
Nintendo does really need to reconsider what they want from their next console, and how it will appeal to the market at large. I'm sure they'll lose some fans. Then again Nintendo never does anything just for the fans, they do it to be Nintendo, sometimes its a hit, and other times not.
I've never clung to Nintendo for anything breathtaking in terms of raw power, my PC does that fine. I've only clung to Nintendo for its fun experiences for my and my family and it hasn't disappointed .
Re: Hands On: Embracing Freedom in The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
@Kirk Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. No point in getting bent out of shape because what they think is the best doesn't meet your standards.
P.S. Too Many Links; Didn't Click
Re: Hands On: Embracing Freedom in The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
@nab1 Well at least we know that your body is ready.
Re: Video: Get a Good Look At Zero Time Dilemma on 3DS
Are the first two available on the EU eshop?
Re: Hands On: Embracing Freedom in The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
@nab1 Feels? It was long. I'm from the school of thought of "We've waited this long, what's bit long?"
Re: Hands On: Embracing Freedom in The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
Lets all critique the none final version of the game that is known to have things intentionally taken out, brb I need to find my pitchfork.
Re: E3 2016: Reggie Says VR "Needs to be Mainstream" For Nintendo To Get Involved
@nab1 True, but the linchpin is that is only works for that certain aspect of games, which would only appeal to a select few. We'd all love for VR not to be "best enjoyed" from sitting on a couch, because, again, what's the point. There are only so many games that can utilize VR well and they are usually all in the same category, or sub-category of genres. Not that they aren't fun, or that I wouldn't play the hell out of it, but it'll get tired very quickly.
Re: E3 2016: Reggie Says VR "Needs to be Mainstream" For Nintendo To Get Involved
@nab1 There's the rub, I didn't flat out mention it initially but movement (i.e. walking) is one of the biggest points of VR that have the greatest limitations. Unless you want to buy one of those gaming treadmills also.
I agree that the best thing for VR is something with limited movement, something like a fighter pilot sim. Then again what's the point in just having a sitting simulation when I can be doing that very thing by sitting on a couch looking at my tv, all the while being super comfortable.
I believe someone said it best, in the midst of our posts, that a truly great VR experience would be something like the Danger Room, or the Holodeck from Star Trek (I added that last one). Anything other than that is just us wanting something before its time.
Re: E3 2016: Reggie Says VR "Needs to be Mainstream" For Nintendo To Get Involved
@nab1 I respect yours as well. What doesn't hold up? The fact that devs are still struggling to make out what to do with VR, or the price point? My argument was never the technology, of course it has changed drastically over 20 years, it had changed drastically over 5 years.
My whole point was there still isn't much depth to VR, as of yet, and a lot of its limitations are still very apparent. A lot of people will see those limitations before blowing a lot of money away on a headset, but some won't until after the fact. If people thought the gamepad was a gimmicky they are in for a not so pleasant surprise.
And again the halolens is has greatest potential of anything that is currently being offered or upcoming, it has many practical applications and uses. No so much as a gaming device but there a few things for it that look promising.
Re: E3 2016: Reggie Says VR "Needs to be Mainstream" For Nintendo To Get Involved
@nab1 Back then there were actually a handful of games, like today, and entertainment vehicles for it. Hell even the Army was using it as a way of therapy, and training for its soldiers, again like today. The funny thing about it then was that some weren't as big and bulky as they are now. The price point is still the same, if not slightly cheaper, back then it was around $500-$600 for a set, depending on the company.
Game devs were struggling 20 years ago also with concepts as well. Like I said: Nothing new under the sun. A lot of the critics of VR aren't just fanboys/girls of actual reality, we've just seen it all before.
Re: E3 2016: Reggie Says VR "Needs to be Mainstream" For Nintendo To Get Involved
I love how must of the people who are all about VR never grew up in the 80's and 90's when the fad then was VR (and laser discs). It was supposed to revolutionize gaming, and entertainment...it didn't, and it probably won't now. There were cool concepts and uses for it back then as well, most of which are the same as now, but alas it wasn't meant to be.
There were plenty of companies that were all about VR, and many made it to consumer's homes, but it just one of those things that never quite caught on, for obvious reasons. There is point in total immersion that just doesn't work quite right with VR. Which I'll just grab my popcorn and watch as they all come roaring back once again 2 decades later. The saying that "There is nothing new under the sun." is quite apt when it comes to this resurgence in the VR craze. Us older gamers have seen it before, most likely we'll see it once more, maybe it'll be better the third time around but as it stands now it is pretty much exactly how it was some 20 years ago.
I'm not a total curmudgeon, I think that the only system that has merit is the halolens but that is technically AR.
Re: Poll: Did Nintendo Triumph With The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild at E3?
@BlatantlyHeroic @Interneto @KH22 My point being that Pokemon was not the main focus whatsoever. Pokemon was just a "Oh yea and this game is coming out also." While Pokemon does sell more across regions than probably any other game has, except Mario, its starting to get tired. Pokemon is still loved for sure, but not to the extent as it use to be.
Overall Zelda is still highly regarded as a top tier game. Its viewed much more highly than Pokemon in reviews and in public opinion. Probably due to it not being released frequently. Now don't get me wrong I played Pokemon to death back in the day, but at a certain point it just becomes like CoD in terms of repetition with slight variations here and there.
I do agree that it wasn't done justice in regards to those who love Pokemon, but in retrospect Zelda is something that has been highly anticipated since 2013, people have been waiting with anticipation, anger, and other emotions for years. Pokemon just doesn't garner that level of excitement as it used to.
Re: Super Smash Bros. for Wii U and Nintendo 3DS Get a Discount in Europe
Gotta do better Nintendo of Europe....just..... le sigh
Re: Poll: Did Nintendo Triumph With The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild at E3?
Gotta say better than last year with only 1 game (pokemon doesn't count...it never did)
Re: Mario Party Star Rush is Coming to 3DS on 4th November
Honestly can't wait for that July E3
Re: E3 2016: Full Title Of Wii U And NX Legend Of Zelda Revealed
@PK_Boss11 Yea I gotta agree. I don't even like Zelda and I'm buying this Day 1
Re: E3 2016: Full Title Of Wii U And NX Legend Of Zelda Revealed
Noone is talking about that armor set though....
I don't dare get it for both Wii U and NX, depends if a divorces is cheaper
Re: Just Dance 2017 Coming to All "Motion-Control Gaming Platforms", Which Includes Nintendo NX
Guys we gotta stop dancing or these game will keep being released.
Re: Review: Mario Hoops 3 on 3 (Wii U eShop / DS)
My question is when they release these titles, especially the DS ones that feature multiplayer, is there no way to have it log into the new Nintendo servers?
Knowing a game has stellar multiplayer, then it gets released without it does make me want to bother with it one bit.
Re: Kirby: Planet Robobot Transforms Into Top 20 Title in UK Charts
I bought it with the intention of sharing with my daughter. She is now playing on the second world, and it still isn't my turn
Re: E3 2016: Nintendo E3 Zelda Badge Appears to Suggest Male and Female Link
Maybe link just decided to channel his inner metrosexual and twee those bushy eyebrows...
Re: Talking Point: Five Years of eShop Progress Doesn't Mask Nintendo's Next-Gen Challenge
The interface is probably THE best feature of the eshop. The sluggishness of buying games is a bit of down tick, but nothing too severe.
I think a vast majority have a gripe with Nintendo's definition of "sale" when compared to every other outlet for sales whether its Sony, Microsoft, or Steam. To be more fair to Nintendo, as far as comparisons go, the prices for the same games on amazon, EB, and other vendors when compared to eshop is the hands down THE BIGGEST complaint to their online presence.
It boggles the mind how they can't be so stubborn on their prices, well not really but that's a whole other conversation involving business terms that I'd rather not get into.
Re: Video: Get an Extended Look at Monster Hunter Stories
Hmm Capcom Localize this, or The Great Ace Attorney. My money is on this, but I'd buy em both.
Re: ​Level-5 Reveals Some New Details on Yo-kai Watch 3
Yea lets get Yo-Kai Watch 2 first then worry about 3...
Re: Nintendo of Europe Unveils Over 40 Discounts for eShop 5 Year Anniversary Sale
@VanillaLake Thanks for the info. That's a bummer then I guess I won't be getting anything for the sell =(
Re: Feature: Our Top 20 Highest Rated 3DS eShop Games
Can't say enough good things about the Phoenix Wright series, currently playing it over Fire Emblem: Fates and that saying something.
I've always wanted to try out Retro City Rampage: DX, but by the time I get some time carved out for it the sequel will be out and it looks sooooo much better.
Re: Nintendo of Europe Unveils Over 40 Discounts for eShop 5 Year Anniversary Sale
@BensonUii You know if metroid can be played a gamepad or classic controller?
Re: Nintendo of Europe Unveils Over 40 Discounts for eShop 5 Year Anniversary Sale
@SmaMan Provided its between now and 6 months otherwise poof. I have over 1.2k platinum, fewer gold, but I'm not too willing to shell out more money for gold coins just to lose them. My Nintendo with no good rewards coupled with point expiration actually is making some savvy shoppers not buy many games initially because of it.
Re: Nintendo of Europe Unveils Over 40 Discounts for eShop 5 Year Anniversary Sale
@SmaMan I was thinking the samething, then I remember that my nintendo is crap right now.
Re: Nintendo of Europe Unveils Over 40 Discounts for eShop 5 Year Anniversary Sale
Kind of let down with this sale. Other than Super Mario Galaxy 2 and Metroid Prime Trilogy. Not a whole lot of meat in these offerings.
Re: Talking Point: In Praise of the 3DS eShop, Which is Now Five Years Old
Over 800 titles gotta love the 3DS eshop for something, even with its flaws.
Re: Editorial: With Lowered Expectations E3 Can Still Be Full of Nintendo Magic
@Barbiegurl777 Just click the arrow next to North American, should sort the list to current year releases and those that don't have a release date as of yet.
Re: Editorial: With Lowered Expectations E3 Can Still Be Full of Nintendo Magic
@Barbiegurl777 Well you can also use this list for a quick look see. Can see what games past, present, or future that piques your interest.
U.S. is on the far right of the list. Happy Gaming =)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_3DS_games
Re: Editorial: With Lowered Expectations E3 Can Still Be Full of Nintendo Magic
@HSuzumiyaVI This is why you and me see eye to eye, you just make sense.
The fanboyism will be the death of me. Its totally unrealistic to think a company will provide you with a game you will like every single time, or that game should be made the way you want it to be made. I love how some take so much time describing, at length, what a game should or should not be. If it means that much to you it might be time to put on the indie developer hat, otherwise your just setting your setting yourself up with unrealistic expectations every time.
Re: Editorial: With Lowered Expectations E3 Can Still Be Full of Nintendo Magic
@Nintendofan83 I feel you, I was in the same boat myself. I opted to get a 3DS along side my Wii U. I'm happy to say I wasn't disappointed. Its rare when I actually have the time to sit down for a proper gaming session on a console. If I do my daughter wants me to play minecraft, or trade off on some online splatoon matches. So the portability of the 3DS, the quality, variety, and sheer number of games has wowed me.
Re: Editorial: With Lowered Expectations E3 Can Still Be Full of Nintendo Magic
@Barbiegurl777 Your kidding right? 3DS will have at least a total of 27 games, if not more, released this year alone. With a huge salvo coming between June-November That's not counting hidden gems like pocket jockey. My wallet weeps.
Re: Video: Play Nintendo Channel Releases Debut 'Bragg Report'
@HSuzumiyaVI Behave...
Re: Video: Play Nintendo Channel Releases Debut 'Bragg Report'
@HSuzumiyaVI If that's the case then it seemingly isn't a good video. I can see 10-12 years old, loosely. The 13-18 only if they aren't as bright as they used to be.
Re: Video: Learn a Bit More About Tokyo Mirage Sessions ♯FE and Its Dungeons
The more and more that I see this game, the less and less I want it. It looks great, but sadly I think I am no longer in the proper age group for it.
Re: Video: Play Nintendo Channel Releases Debut 'Bragg Report'
It will do what it needs to do for its target audience...which I hope is younger than 6, cause my 6 year old looked at it for 2 seconds and left.
Re: Nintendo Confirms a Second Day of E3 2016 Treehouse Streaming
@Sakura Oh its not just you. I gave up on the "why" long ago, as it would only lead to an brain aneurysm. At this point I'm leaning towards they maybe a cult and only a special test would allow us access into their world/way of thinking.
Re: Nintendo Confirms a Second Day of E3 2016 Treehouse Streaming
@Sakura Well they did say it was the only playable demo, not the only game. Guess we'll have to experience the others vicariously through the treehouse hosts.
Like i said earlier Nintendo's PR is on the job. People have been talking about nothing but Nintendo, for better or for worse, since they announced the original E3 lineup, and now they have few more days in the news cycle, staying in people's minds until E3.
There are still plenty of games in Nintendo's line up, mainly 3DS, that isn't slated to be talked about during E3. Either because they are going to be released around the same time, or because they are due out in 2017.
Re: Nintendo Confirms a Second Day of E3 2016 Treehouse Streaming
Well since they are already announced/introduced games technically they aren't "New". Well played Nintendo...well played.
EDIT: There are honestly way too many games coming for the 3DS, not so much for the Wii U, that failing to mention would be a total death knell for Nintendo.
They never said Zelda would be the ONLY game shown, they said it would be the only "playable demo". Poor choice of wording on Nintendo PR's part, or genius who knows people were still frothing at the mouth about it until this news came out. All the while people are talking about Nintendo the entire time. I gotta hire Nintendo PR.