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I wouldn't call the 6 month late release of a game that received very lukewarm reviews and deceptively advertised of supporting the "longest" out of the third party. Hell, Activtion put more effort into their Call of Duty ports in terms of supporting the Gamepad .

Considering, their statements of mature games don't sell on the Wii U, wasn't even true when holding on the portion that brought the game vs the size of the console base. Then issue okay, Ubisoft still had non-mature games that they could have had released games in genres that have historically performed great on Nintendo consoles like Tetris, Monopoly, Trail Fusions, The Crew, Uno, Hasbro Fun-Pack etc

An interesting take on AC: Black Flag from a someone that runs another Nintendo fan blog:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUdkqY5Lr7A

Ubisoft games are pure trash. I don't see how anyone can say they supported Nintendo considering all of the trashy games they released on the 3DS during it's launch period. When Nintendo were holding of the release of titles to give third parties breathing room for sales.

When I think of Ubisoft "support" I think of this: https://pietriots.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/3pwall1001_ubiwallofshame.jpg

and this

https://pietriots.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/ubiroster.jpg?w=600

They had a Sonic Humble Bundle with most of the games included for $15 dollars. LOL. Nintendo gamers are given the stick yet again. LOL.

@rjejr Your usage of "statistics" doesn't work when comes to sales data. The term "outlier" is being greatly miss used.

@EllenJMiller Damn, I have the game for the Wii U, but only played it like for an hour. I didn't think the game was that bad ai wise and QOL wise.

@masterpad It was running at 24 FPS at 720p. they didn't want to optimize their physics and/or tire engine.

@Billsama If Nintendo want to move units in Europe & Latin America, yeah, FIFA will help greatly with that and I say this a non-sport fan.

@ThomasBW84 I'm sorry. Considering the damn price of the Switch is going to be 199.99 GBP, the you wants to go on about "...It's not anticipated to be bleeding edge technology for home gaming" That is the definition of a strawman. Bleeding edge compared to what? Xbox One/PS4/PS4 Pro CPU are nothing but two netbook CPU ducktaped together with a low end and low-mid end gpu (at the time of released) respectively. If you want "bleeding edge" why don't you write for PC-Gamer Life instead of NintendoLife. Or better yet get you expectation in line.

@cleveland124 From my limited understanding, NVIDIA and Bethesda seem to have a decent working relationship. Actually, there are a lot studios that seem to have a decent relationship with NVIDIA. So, I do think the noise/crap talk that Nintendo received during the Wii and Wii U eras from developers, at least, should be a bit toned down to almost non-existent.

@BiasedSonyFan Yes, that is true. However, have there ever been a SIM racing or SIM-cade racing game on a Nintendo platform? When looking at the GameCube third party sales, Need for Speed (although that is a arcade racing series) sold pretty well. Don't know the Wii Need for Speed sale figures. It doesn't help that Need for Speed: Most Wanted U was sabotage by EA.

@Lucina Yes, Lucina go in on that @$$. Thank you for writing that so I don't have to. I'm sick of the double standards when it comes to Nintendo as well.

@BiasedSonyFan My bad. That was a typo in my previous post about GFLOPS. I wanted to write "...GFLOPS aren't everything when it comes to gaming performance"

@BiasedSonyFan I didn't say more powerful than, I wrote that it should be able to handle ports from Xbox One and PS4. Further more, NVida GFLOPS are greater than AMD GFLOPS. (roughly 4:3) Also, GFLOPS aren't everything when I comes to gaming performance.

edited: typo.

@ironside1911 A game dev that leaked the Wii and GameCube spec on Neogaf. You have to realize that x86 are using netbook level CPUs in APU. Modern ARM CPU can out-bench them.

I don't understand why people are worried about the power level of the Switch. Insiders have stated that it's CPU is greater than the Xbox One and PS4 and that the Switch is capable of handling ports from PS4 and the Xbox One.

@ThomasBW84 Your title is so misleading. "The Wii U Has Been Nintendo's Lowest Selling Home Console; It Deserved Better" with a title like that I expect more reasons on "why" it deserve better and not majority of focus on why it was Nintendo's lowest selling home console.

@yomanation It was an asset that Nintendo acquired years ago. It is something that a lot of companies do. I wouldn't call that "clever accounting". It is a heck of a lot better than selling your company's original buildings and then leasing them back from the company that they were sold to alas Sony....

"...and clever accounting helped Nintendo produce profits despite continually declining sales revenues..."

It is backhanded statements like this which makes me truly hate this site. Clever accounting isn't the reason Nintendo is profitable. There gross margins have increased over the last few years and due the sale of amiibo. I guess selling products is "clever accounting".

Hillary did when the popular vote. God, i hate the electoral college system.

@Rhydas Moon data mining have been going on for the past two days.

@MeloMan "Having multiple hardware systems is costly from a manufacturing and development standpoint despite successes, and the Switch in concept was born of Nintendo's motivation to consolidate it's hardware and software to strengthen each software title released, cut turnaround release time, cut development costs, reduce the headache of development, and stop it's split dichotomy of "profitable system, not-so-profitable system".

The above, hardware-wise, isn't even true historically for Nintendo. Both home and portable consoles were quite profitable until the Wii U.

@thesilverbrick And what does "3DS is qute ancient from a technological standpoint" have to do with games and the quality of those said games? I guess the old games from SNES, PS2, PS1, Wii etc are crap because the console are "ancient from a technological standpoint".

@AVahne And, Nintendo rightfully paid the price for that decision. It makes me wonder if Nintendo were a bit more aggressive about expanding first party gaming development during the Wii/DS era would they have had stopped this never-ending cycles of game droughts?

@Danrenfroe2016 Modern ARM cores beat out the Jaguar Cores in the X64-86 twins on per core basis.

@YouSeemFRAZZLED Nintendo had to kill the Wii U for those ports. I highly doubt they were built from the ground up like they were for the Wii U.

I'm going to wait for the Nintendo Switch XL. LOL. Or maybe the Nintendo "New" Switch XL lol.

@RoomB31 The issue is, at least in the U.S. (thanks craptastic NoA-you guys always mange to find a way to fail), the 2DS is NEVER advertised.

@bolt05 The problem is that this will probably sell to the 20's and 30's that grew up with Pokemon.

@edcomics You have to be joking in saying it looks "less real". WFT?

Does it charge the 3DS when the 3DS is in use? I have an Ankler 16,000 mah power bank and it doesn't charge the 3DS if I am using it. I have to close the 3DS in order for it to charge.

@DTFaux The problem with that type of thinking is that the whole base isn't going to move simultaneously move to the next console. I hated that Nintendo of America released the GameCube version of LoZ:TP a month after Wii release. And the issue with the Wii that it was never in stock due to a various types of customers.

@aaronsullivan the numbers only hold true for the United States. So, the console and handheld split is not evenly disturbed across the globe-in refecerence to your 50-50 split of handhelds. Looking at the gamestop article we have roughly 13 million +11 million +5 million= 29 million for PS4, Xbox One and Wii U receptively. Also, we still are getting releases for PS3 and Xbox 360 where this isn't the case for the DS, PSP. (which I can imagine this may as well be the case for the Vita in the United States as well) I believe the Xbox 360 sold about 40 million in US and the PS3 did about something about in the mid 20 million-ish (for this comment I'm going to assume 25 million in the US) figure. (Assuming a one to one relationship i.e. PS3 owner brought a PS4 case or a Xbox 360 brought a Xbox One which I know isn't exactly the case) We have 25 million minus 13 million equals 12 million remaining PS3 and 40 million minus 11 million equals 30 million reaming Xbox 360. So roughly at most 42 million gen 7 console owners out there that still may be gaming on them. 42 million for gen 7 and 29 million for gen 8 home console gamers. Roughly 71 million active home console gamers in the United States vs only the active 17 million gamers on the 3DS platform in the United States.

The gamespot article percentages refers to: "Top devices most frequent gamers use": PC (56%), dedicated game console (53%), smartphone (36%), wireless device (31%), dedicated handheld system (17%)

So, going by my calculated figures it seem as if the home console are the one that is underrepresented vs the handheld.

The majority are nothing but 2D platformers. Can Indies do something else?

@Caryslan Very good points. I don't think the concept is bad at all. FPS is missing in general on handheld systems so I would give some credit for that. The other issue is that it is hard to find people to play local multiplayer when it comes to the 3DS in the west, especially in the United States. Also, it would be a bit nice if it didn't retail for $40. Maybe if Nintendo would have had released the game as a cheaper download....

Out of all the cool color that Japan get, NoA release this pile of $#!& 3DS XL model....

That thing is ugly as sin. NoA display there inaptness yet again.

@aaronsullivan What about people that buy multiple same home consoles for different rooms (i.e. PS3 in the family room and bed room)? I wish people didn't use that statement (unless backed by some type of hard data home console ownership per user vs portable console ownership per user)

When was the last time a WWE game even appeared on a Nintendo handheld or home system?

@c1pher_c0mplet These are mostly ports from Android. Also, they are much cheaper on Android as well going for $3.99...

@JamesCoote I know you didn't mention Disney, a company that basically raids the public domain for "new" IPs. Second, you act as if companies in the past haven't copied Nintendo (i.e. Sony Move and Microsoft Connect)

@JaxonH The Wii U is capable of running GameCube games naively. With hacks the Wii U is capable of loading Gamecube games from a hard drive. There is no reason that GameCube games aren't available for purchase especially with the GameCube controller adapter out in the marketplace.

@Marce2240 You are so lazy you can't even type "Not Very Effective" to clarify a point that you brought up?

@Marce2240 Post uses an unnecessary and undescriptive term. What is the heck is NVE?

What the flying hell? So, this developer is saying that pixel art game can't be coded on the original 3DS?

@Marce2240 What about Flying>Fighting>Rock?

@Yorumi They[Sony gaming division] just enter the black this fiscal year...

@Yorumi Have you ever heard of tax credits and deductions?

@AVahne A MOBA with 2D SNES level graphics actually, sounds like a cool idea.

@GuruOfGreatness I know. It is funny that 58M [3DS] +13M [Wii U]> 36M [PS4]+18M(?)[Xbox One]+12M(?) [Vita]. Yet, the lesser of this inequality gets all of the support....

@Mahe You opinion doesn't even factor the staggering amount of support that the PS4 had over the 3DS...Nintendo and Altus are the main publisher/developer driving the sales of the 3DS vs EVERY freaking publisher /developer on the plant pushing the PS4/Xbox One.