It's likely that history won't look too kindly upon the Wii U, at least in terms of its sales performance. It's set to be Nintendo's worst-selling home console when all is said and done, a sad fate for the follow-up to the phenomenally successful Wii.
As of 30th June this year just 13.02 million Wii U systems had been sold, and Nintendo's most recent earnings release states that only 800,000 units are expected to be shipped this financial year. The GameCube closed on 21.74 million units.
It seems that the system may be going into its final chapter, with online retailer Gameseek reporting that Nintendo is taking 'final orders' on Wii U console units; apparently no more orders will be taken from retailers by the big N after 30th September. Quite whether that's the case globally is unclear, but it's the inevitable next step in the current home console being phased out. It's the natural process considering its poor sales - cease taking retail orders, wind down any remaining manufacturing orders, and allow current stock to be naturally sold off.
This certainly isn't surprising, especially with Nintendo planning to launch its NX platform in March 2017. Gameseek is trying to imply that this upcoming closure of Wii U retail orders could be the prelude to a surprise early NX release this Holiday season, but we think that's a stretch. We know better than to say anything is impossible, but it's unlikely - the phasing out of Wii U at this stage is not necessarily related to any changes in NX strategy.
Regardless of all that it seems the end is nigh for the Wii U. Whether Gameseek's report is applicable to all retailers around the globe or not, it's nevertheless an indication that the Wii U era is heading towards its end after just four years.
With thanks to SLIGEACH_EIRE for the heads up.
[source gameseek.co.uk]
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And yet the PS3 is still going somehow. So much potential waisted!! Here's hoping the NX is something special for all gamers!
@SLIGEACH_EIRE "With thanks to SLIGEACH_EIRE for the heads up."
-They thanked you this time...surprised you aren't first.
I know this isn't surprising given the state of the WiiU but I'm a little sad to see this. WiiU was the little engine that could. I've enjoyed mine immensely. I suppose there is not much left after Color Splash.
But the NX "isn't replacing the Wiiu or 3ds" though. Kappa
Less than "four years"... what a pity.
@Spoony_Tech Better wish it is something special for everyone.
@Ryu_Niiyama I'm a little busy. I'm trying to remember what Kimishima said about Wii U continuing production.
http://time.com/4131306/nintendo-kimishima-interview/
A lot of what he said was hollow.
And regarding the reference to me in the story, the heads of NL sorted out the contact form earlier today. I'd been sending them stories for ages but they never received any of them. This fix should now benefit everyone on the site who uses the contact form.
@Rei I'd argue that Wii U only got 3 years support and during that time it was very sporadic.
Wii U's price in years to come is likely to go up. And I'm not sure that the NX will be backwards compatible with Wii U games for several reasons which will further drive up its value. And it won't now reach 15 million units sold.
@Ryu_Niiyama Oh no they gave in.
"We here at BBC wish to thank SLIPPY_ICE for the heads up that CNN was reporting on this development."
@Spoony_Tech Ps3 still has that install base plus they are still getting games. I don't like to throw shade on Nintendo since I do like them primarily but they have been a little ...off on transitioning between consoles. I felt that with N64 ->NGC and it is worse with Wii->WiiU->NX (mythical unicorn)
@SLIGEACH_EIRE, I understand. Life gets hectic sometimes.
@LemonSlice I'm not picking on the guy about it. It just seemed that he was very concerned so I thought somebody should tell him. Slippy_ice was cute though, lol.
Nintendo, I did my part. I bought three of them.
I'll still be using my Wii U for a while yet. Probably as I'm still not convinced about the NX.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Are you secretly Peach64?
@ziffy What the hell are you talking about? You said this on another thread earlier today.
Well it was fun while it lasted
I'll use my Wii U along with the NX until "Spla2n" inevitably releases on the NX someday.
If I recall correctly, we have heard stuff like that at least one other time in the past. And if I recall correctly Nintendo "denied them strongly" back then.
Personally I think they won't be "taking final orders" for the Wii U before they release "The Legend Of Zelda: Breath Of The Wild", even with it coming to NX!
Man. What a ridiculously short-lived console. How the crap is the Xbox 360 and PS3 outliving it?
Well, I'm not too surprised after hearing how poorly it's been performing. Yet, I'm still saddened by it. I've been wanting to get one whenever I've gotten the cash for it, so hopefully it doesn't go dodo before I can. I can't miss out on Smash, Mario and the Zelda HD ports.
This is supposedly only for Nintendo of Europe right now.
@LAEER I'm not too sure about that. Twilight Princess saw a cross console release, but I think the GCN version had a shorter circulation as Nintendo wanted to move onto their latest system, the Wii, at that time. And there was little reason to keep GCN production going since the Wii was backwards compatible.
I can see the same thing happening for BotW, but I'm really curious if the NX will have BC in any form (even if it's just for digital purchases).
I find this hard to believe as Breath of the wild will inevitably move some consoles. I mean, people could buy the NX version ok but I can see others finding a bargain WiiU if they just want to play that game
If no one wants to buy it, then Nintendo needs to stop making it.
But I still think it's the best console in terms of pure fun since the SNES!
Unclear if its just the UK (Which makes sense, I'm the only person here who seems to own one), or EU as a whole.
Either way, cut the weakest market to free up resources on making stuff that will, hopefully, sell.
@Ryu_Niiyama
There's still Yooka Laylee and BotW.
Probably one or two more that I've forgotten...
I encourage everyone to buy a brand new Wii U now, with plastic wrap and all, and keep it in their closet or attic for some years. You'd be contributing to hardware preservation and like @SLIGEACH_EIRE said, it's value will go up, because just like the GameCube to this day, there isn't any way to play it but on it's original format. As in console and mini-disc.
Basically what I'm saying is it will be out of production soon and that everyone should preserve it and make some money at the same time. Profit eventually, anyway.
Please take action immediately.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE What are you finding hollow from that interview?
Wii U software, I guess? StarFox Zero, Paper Mario, Zelda were on the way to Wii U since the interview.
@BiasedSonyFanI I guess they might not be for you but as with the WiiU, there are many interesting exclusives that are not on PC on all those consoles ...well ok, not on the Xbone with that play anywhere deal going on.
60% trade in for Wii U games at Gamestop this weekend for pro rewards members. 50% for basic rewards members.
If you want to get out and prepare for the NX now would be the time.
Yes you may not get too much but it is pretty decent amount for 1st party Nintendo games once the 60% is added.
$90 for the console is a bit of a rip but hey quick and easy trade in credit without having to ship, post on ebay, etc.
Not for everybody but if you want to liquidate fast and easy it may be the best route.
I thought they did this already in 2014
As far as orders go... @rjejr and I bandied about a perhaps naive suspicion that it's just packaging up leftover overproduced consoles that have been sitting in warehouses from early runs. Something is keeping the price high. I guess manufacturing more of them at such low numbers must be really expensive, too.
Interesting how 360 and PS3 can continue churning out.
Honestly, I don't throw much weight behind this story, though. Final orders...
I still don't understand why?
If the NX is really what everyone is saying, it's not a successor to the Wii U, it's even less powerful. If all the rumours are true, there is no reason to stop producing Wii U's...
Congratulations, @SLIGEACH_EIRE You get a gold star for reporting the news! Place it on the refrigerator for everyone to see!
Kind of sad to think that the Wii U is being replaced after only 4 years with another system, but the system will still have Zelda to look forward too in March for people not getting the NX right around launch.
Really, this doesn't surprised me with how bad the sales are with the Wii U, but for people wanting to get a Wii U, now is the time I guess, it does have a lot of excellent games! I will probably be buying another system before you can't see them on shelves anymore, and I also plan to buy NX at launch.
@shani NX is a Wii U replacement, no matter what crap they say. From the sounds of the rumours, the NX will be more powerful than the Wii U, but not as powerful as the Xbox One or PS4. These, of course, are just rumours though
Yay, now if your gamepad breaks, you can't play wiiu anymore.
@BiasedSonyFan I'd rather have all platforms. But if I could only choose just one, it would easily be PC.
@BiasedSonyFan Generally speaking I tend to agree. But apart from Sony's stuff, Playstation has got a very nice series of "third party exclusives". I wish they were on Nintendo consoles so I could just buy one machine dreams of SNES era dominance.
@hYdeks Not really, at least according to the rumours NL is spreading. According to those, it will be powered by a sub-par mobile graphics chip like Tegra. And Tegra's graphical prowess is not weaker than the Gamecube's.
@Spoony_Tech PS3 still has games coming. I also have the ps4 but if it's on the PS3 I tend to buy it.
Also PlayStation games are a lot cheaper than Nintendo games
This is the only Nintendo console ever that I didn't buy. I have all the others, dating back to the NES.
The PS3 and 360 continue due to 3rd party support and 10 years worth of games for anyone picking one up for the first time. Heck, the 360 might well be the best console ever made and I say that as a Nintendo fan.
The WiiU deserves an early grave. It has some special games on it for sure and as a last bastion of local multiplayer it is superb. But the Gamepad was a terrible idea, it doesn't have the best of any Nintendo franchise and there aren't even any odd obscure 3rd party games to fill release holes.
I stuck with the Wii as my only console for a good 6 years before I dropped £££ for an HD console. I loved it from day 1 and happily go back to play everything from Wii Sports to Xenoblade. But the WiiU? It won't be remembered well in my house.
@BiasedSonyFan here in the uk PlayStation 4 is already the same price as the wii u.
People tend to sway towards the ps4 then the wii u as its a newer console. newer tech. Still has support, even the PlayStation 3 has support.
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@BiasedSonyFan it's a matter of taste, I can totally see it though.
I had my fun with the WiiU anyway, not a purchase I regret at all. Currently playing #FE and loving it, then it's PS4 time with FFXV and Persona 5 but then WiiU again for Breath of the wild (totally getting it before Horizon Zero Dawn). Couldn't find any of these games on PC. FFXV eventually will be ported though
@aaronsullivan Not sure I discussed it w/ you, but after that 800k number Nintendo gave I figured they probably had about 500k sitting around w/ orders in for another 100k per month for 3 months, probably finishing out an old contract. This would fit nicely into that. But killing a console right before Christmas w/ another not out until March? Maybe we should all buy iPhones for Super Mario Run?
@Spoony_Tech oh you, I wanted to make a snide PS3 comment, asking when "final orders" was for that console.
@RadioHedgeFund true. I still boot up the PS3 for some online ultra street fighter 4
Nintendo had better be careful about surprise releases considering what happened with the Saturn and Sega. Not saying they are nearly in the same position as they were. But still. Be careful. With that being said, I would absolutely be on board with the decision if (and it's a big IF) the launch lineup ready and there.
I think I pick another WiiU up and leave it in the box, like I should've done with the SNES, N64, GameCube.
@Ikramali I could never get on with the PS3. It has some amazing games, particularly WipEout HD (one of my favourite series) but the hardware was terrible.compared to the 360: rubbish pad, PSN store constantly crashing, terrible WiFi and that damned HDD restore if you turn it off at the mains.
@Ryu_Niiyama "I suppose there's not much left after Color Splash..."
Speaking of which, Zelda should still be coming to Wii U right? Or I wonder if it'll get cancelled and be NX only...
Cant say that I am personally disappointed with the WiiU. I loved it as I have every other Nintendo console I have owned. It was unique and different from all the rest of them, and I am happy that I didn't pass up the opportunity to get one. Now to buy a Snes, Nes, and NX to finish my home console collection!
"This certainly isn't surprising..."
It isn't? How often does a console cease production before its successor?
@RyanSilberman simple, third party games
This is just sad.... Not a little sad, but VERY sad... I love U Wii U >_<
@shani "if all the rumors are true" your answer is right there. We know next to nothing about the nx.
@shani Incorrect. Both Tegra X1 and Tegra X2 are more powerful than Wii U.
@vanzan Take your own advice please.
https://www.nintendolife.com/forums/nintendo-nx/what_do_you_think_the_nx_is_poll?start=4680
I posted it hours before that thread was created. And I'd sent that news in to the team shortly before I posted in the forum.
"vanzan time 2 time try to read NL forum ok"
@Nicolai Sega Saturn, Atari 5200, Psp go, N64. That's all I can think of off the top of my head. If Sony ever males another portable you can add vita to the list.
Hopefully the NX performs better but I have no regrets getting a Wii U. I still use it at least everyday even if I am not gaming.(web, netflix) which is more than I can say for my PS4 once the new console hype ran off.
No way could I have had just a ps4 this gen and been satisfied.
@UmbreonsPapa the issue with the Saturn is it was released the day it was announced and we had just gotten the 32x the year before. People felt really burned by that.
Final orders before NX reveal?
@The_Dude_Abides I have a feeling we will see ultimate versions of a few wiiu games with all the dlc free like smash bros.
@Kiyata shame it's a lot of fun.
@Smokingspoon you can bet the used market will have game pads for some time. Also I think Nintendo still accepted wii's for repair until last year.
@faint I think we'll see NX versions of Wii U games too. And like you say complete with the DLC. Conveniently the NX won't have a disc drive nor backwards compatibility so Nintendo get to charge all over again.
@DTFaux The problem with that type of thinking is that the whole base isn't going to move simultaneously move to the next console. I hated that Nintendo of America released the GameCube version of LoZ:TP a month after Wii release. And the issue with the Wii that it was never in stock due to a various types of customers.
I learned my lesson with the Wii U, I won't be going buying the NX till it's been on the market for a few years and has some games. It's a shame, the Wii U is the best console on the market, people are just too blind to see it.
@Giygas_95 Don't know how much weight it holds, but I saw the new pre-order card in Target yesterday. I'm a big doubting Thomas when it comes to Nintendo, but I felt really good after seeing that card.
If Microsoft followed Nintendo's lead Xbox One would be $449 ($50 less than its launch price) and still bundled w/ the Kinect. Think about that.
They'll probably be practically given them away come Black Friday/Cyber Monday.....
I don't mind this but I do mind Nintendo's lack of support for the console on My Nintendo and the eshop. Just because it isn't selling doesn't mean they should ignore the millions of people who play it and enjoy it.
@rjejr I could see the physical copy being in limited quantities to be honest.
@IceClimbers Well if that's true, then why do games running on Tegra chips look so terrible? And I mean those from the videos that are supposed to show how supposedly "great" Tegra's graphics are (they were also in one of NL's articles). They're not. They're somewhere between N64 and Gamecube.
Just look at this video, just found it on NL. Everything on the middle or where the focus is, looks okay. But everything else does not. The graphics are heavily outdated.
For instance, take a look at the human models at 0:17. They're almost as blocky as games on N64 were. Every Gamecube game looks better than this.
Or the textures at 0:03. All those graphics look really cheap. And if you watch the flying sequence at the end of the video, it's clear that Tegra is not able to render big worlds or open world games in modern graphics. Those graphics at the end of the video are heavily reduced and offer zero details.
How is this supposed to be better than the Wii U or even on par with PS4 (and the PS4's graphics aren't really impressive either, just compare GTAV on PS4 vs. PC)? I'm telling you, they're just trying to fool us. No mobile graphics chip can deliver the same performance as a real dedicated graphics card/chip can do.
@faint That's exactly my stance on that subject too. But NL and others are claiming to know more but won't tell us. I can't believe anything without proof, that's why I wrote "if what they're saying is true". And if it turns out to be true, I don't know if I even want the NX.
@InklingOrange Where did you hear that? I didn't see it on the site.
@shani Because they run on Android and aren't full blown modern games. A dedicated platform running on Tegra X2 or even X1 would have games that look Wii U level at the minimum.
I guess it's time to find another one considering Nintendo consoles go up in price after they are discontinued. Plus I've got a few dollars laying around collecting dust.
@IceClimbers What does that have to do with Android? Android is just Linux and Linux is a dedicated platform (with Steam and everything). It's not a matter of software but a matter of hardware. Android phones/tablets/PCs should also be able to play 4K with the right hardware, but even the PS4 cannot.
Did you see the video examples I added in my last comment? You can't be seriously saying that these graphics are better than what we have now?!
I mean, I'm not even a graphics extremist on consoles, although I'd wish they would finally give in and make them with swappable hardware like any other PC (a console is nothing else). But if the NX doesn't have some awesome ingenious feature, I don't know why I should get it (and I always buy Nintendo's home consoles). A stationary/portable hybrid just won't cut it for me. I don't play when I'm on the way and I most certainly don't want to play on a tiny screen.
@IceClimbers I made a joke the other day that Nintendo would make the Wii U version 33GB and download only, since NX should be carts I think, to get people to upgrade to NX. Even if they only make a few thousand copies on disc, the important thing is it plays on Wii U and didn't get cut. I was 50-50 on it getting cut before seeing that card.
Changing gears. Did you read the linked to article? It didn't site any sources and was all about NX for the holiday. And neither it nor anyone here mentioned the NES Mini releasing this holiday. Maybe Nintendo is hiding Wii U to make room for NES Mini on store shelves? $60 a pop, they can probably sell 5 of them for every Wii U. And Pokémon S&M will sell a few 3DS.
Sad but not surprising. I hope Nintendo with NX makes another great mainstream console like NES/SNES/DS/Wii and not another N64GCfankid machine like Wii U
@shani Ok, I'm just gonna call on @Therad to explain it, as he can explain it a lot better than I can.
@rjejr Indeed.
@RyanSilberman @Spoony_Tech Plan and simple Xbox 360 and PS3 have the third party support that Wii U didn'tl, and with that they both have a larger library then the Wii U. Heck even games like Black Ops 3 and Madden 16 got a release on the 360 and PS3. Also the user rate of 360, PS3 is vastly higher then the Wii U and you can thank Nintendo for that for the poor marketing of it.
And the Sega Saturn oops! I meant Nintendo Wii U is closing a chapter in VG History...
It's NX or bust for Nintendo as a console maker. 😢 makes me sad.
@Captain_Gonru Oh yeah, I was going to tell you about my Target find yesterday but I guess I forgot, sorry. Did I tell you I bought re-skinned inkling boy amiibo? It was supposed to be in there.
And we've all been calling it Pokémon S&M since day 1. If was either that or 50 Shades of Pokemon.
I've decided Nintendo is removing all Wii U from stores by mid-November to make room for NES Mini. Probably what that big meeting was about this week. They can still keep the games, they've had Wii games all this time.
Did you know Gamestop is selling the old Xbox One for $229? Not refurbs, new in the box, w/ games. Quantum Break model looks nice in white for $230. Better than $300 Wii U. Online only, but still.
http://www.gamestop.com/browse/consoles/xbox-one?nav=28-xu0,13ffff2412-1e0
@RyanSilberman they had a good system with good support. But no Nintendo wanted to shove a "new way to play" down our throat.
The Wii U game pad is the biggest fail in gaming history...
Sad... I am so afraid that the NX will be very gimmicky
@yomanation yes the N64 is still my favorite
Its a damn shame, while the Wii U had a lot of droughts and problems, it had some really fun games.
Though, I think Wii U's will be the next GC - everyone slammed the Gc because it was kiddy.... Now, if you go to eBay, its very valuable and everyone ask for remakes/ports of those gen games.
@BiasedSonyFan I agree with the other fella, because if you look at a lot of like mobile phone games and even tablet games which look amazing, but they would look absolutely terrible on a 57 inch TV, they can get away with a whole lot of artifacts and low Polly stuff when you're screen is only 5 or 10 inches across. Take screenshots of different games inside Android or is and you will see what I mean blow them up on a big monitor or TV.
@Moi
Just Nintendo's way of trying to get people to keep buying those two consoles.
Sadly the Wii u is an underrated system
Is my favorite current gen system (own the 3 consoles)
and my most played too.
house of two of my best favorite games ever (splatoon and Bayonetta 2)
It's sad to see a "last call" but it was bound to happen sometime. I am surprised to see it happen before NX comes out though (let alone revealed). Any chance of one last Humble Bundle with Wii U games?
(Please forgive the length)
A hooded, black-robed figure walks into an old, dark warehouse. The warehouse is filled with what seem to be wooden crates of different sizes. They're carrying a wrapped bundle in their arms, but there is no hint as to what it is other than the power cord trailing on the ground from the bundle.
The figure reaches the center of the warehouse. Here, a dim light bulb provides the only illumination in the building, causing the nearby crates to cast ominous, black shadows that reach into the unlit depths of the warehouse.
Joining those shadows are the lengthened shadows of other black-robed figures of all shapes and sizes. One large, bulky figure sneezes, temporarily illuminating that part of the building in fiery sparks. All the figures are standing in a circle around an open wooden crate as the new arrival stops in front of it. The crate is empty.
"Must this be done?" whispers the figure, cradling the bundle in their arms.
One of the shorter figures steps forward, breaking the circle. He lowers his hood, revealing his mustachioed face. Mario.
"Yes. It is the only way to move forward," Mario says softly, laying his hand gently onto the new arrival's arm. "For every new beginning, there must be an end."
The other robed figures lower their hoods, revealing their faces: Luigi, Bowser (the one who sneezed), Peach, Donkey Kong, Link, Zelda, Kirby, Fox McCloud, Pikachu...and many more. All have sad, somber expressions on their faces.
Finally, the new figure with the bundle nods and carefully unwraps the bundle. A Wii U system is revealed, complete with a GamePad, Pro Controller, a couple of Wii Remotes, connecting cables, and other add-ons and accessories. One by one, these are carefully packed into the crate until nothing is left in the newcomer's arms.
The Wii U Bearer then puts the lid onto the crate; the resulting thunk reverberates through the warehouse. On the lid is a plaque that reads "Nintendo Wii U: 2012-2017". A Hammer Bro. comes forward and nails the crate shut.
The crate is then taken in a procession by all present to a corner of the warehouse. The light in the center was extinguished, the only sources of light now provided by torches carried by some of the party. The torches illuminate some labels of other crates as the procession walks past them: the Sega Genesis, Atari 2600, N64, SNES, Playstation 2, Magnavox Odyssey...the list goes on and on.
Finally, the procession reaches their destination and, after a moment of silence, slide the crate in beside the Nintendo Wii. The robed figures slowly begin departing the warehouse, but the Wii U Bearer is the last to leave.
Before the Bearer turns to go, they rest their hand on the crate for the last time. They inhale, smelling the scent of new wood that they know, with time, will age and become covered in layers of dust. Memories dash through the Bearer's head as they recall all the fun times they had with the Wii U, though its time was short-lived compared to its father's success a generation before. Such a system full of potential, and yet it was slowly abandoned until now, with even its creator giving it a slow, painful death.
The Bearer turns away and, as they walk out, whispers to the beloved system for the final time.
"Rest in peace."
@shani
Because:
1) Those games being shown are VERY OLD (still, they're not as bad as N64 level, art thou blind?).
2) These games are NOT as well optimized as a port to a home console would be. Devs don't have as much incentive to do a mobile port to just one line of chipsets with a limited amount of users as they do for a popular, mainstream machine like Sony's and MS's consoles. Same reason why ports to the Wii U tend to pale in comparison to PS3 and 360, well maybe not as extreme.
@Ryu_Niiyama
It is strange, it's such a "failure" and yet some of the best gaming moments are happening on it.
and that's just a few. i honestly didn't buy many games, but the ones I did rival my greatest gaming moments. I really think this is a classic case of terrible upfront marketing (what is it a wii add-on?) and the ongoing inability to woo 3rd party devs because they won't enter the arms race. Not that they have to win it, but without comparable architecture, no one will buy the "biggest" games on nintendo and therefore Nintendo will not move units.
@Smokingspoon
Um... try Ebay. There are some sellers sell Wii U gamepad separately.
Well, i'm so relieved can owned Wii U before getting ended.
Now it's time for me to get the rest of Wii U titles that i still haven't get yet. Not so many titles...
Don't worry people. Even Wii U ended, you can still find the refurbish, games, accesories, etc on Ebay or Amazon. You can always have a chance to own a Wii U anytime, time doesn't really matter.
Goodbye Wii U. You were quite good. Fantastic occasion for Sligeach though. The day has come! Tremendous news.
If they start giving away WiiUs it might be worth getting just to have a backup game pad.
Great console that had a few poor design choices and too many bad decisions keeping it from succeeding. If you don't have one, you should get it before it's gone.
Not gonna lie, I regret not getting a Wii U. :/
@Captain_Gonru Well yeah, not having any hardware to play those games is a bit of a hitch in my plan, but maybe they just stick 1 or 2 in with the 3DS, that section is always half empty, and use the bigger Wii U space for NES Mini stock. $60 each, I see those things flying off shelves as holiday gifts. Like Tickle Me Elmo Cabbage Patch crazy. I guess the real test will be if or when the kiosks come down to make space for a playable Mini in November, then in March replace the Mini kiosk w/ NX. You're the retail guy, is that too much work in kiosk management in too short a span of time? Oct Wii U, NOV-Feb NES Mini, March NX?
For the record, I do think Wii U could still sell a little bit; cut the price, promote the Selects line, promote Zelda Wild, but I don't think they want it to. I really don't.
Nintendo really abandoned ship if this is true
Lifeline is completely cut :/
@LegendOfPokemon
On the gamestop website. It is not specifically Wii U games it is any game. Pro rewards members get 60%. I just back from trading some things in. Splatoon is bringing in $40 trade credit.
@InklingOrange Cool! I'll definitely have to check it out; thanks for the notice.
Not surprised about this but I for one am nowhere near being done with my Wii U. Between the twenty or more E-Shop games I own but never played and quite a few retail games I have yet to purchase I can survive on Wii U alone for another year. Add in the 3DS' game library and I don't have to worry about entertainment for a really long time. The NX is going to have to be exactly what I am looking for in order for me to buy it at launch, and really, I hope it is.
@Ryu_Niiyama "WiiU was the little engine that could. "
No. No it isn't. In fact, it's very much quite the opposite. Couldn't run PS4/XB1 games. Couldn't take the GamePad into another room. Couldn't land AAA 3rd party content. Couldn't hook up more than 1 GamePad (its primary input device).
As a day one adopter, Wii U just sucked after 2013. Sure it had the occasional bone thrown its way since then. But if I were to sum up the console in one word, that word would be 'underwhelming'.
If this is true, then it's a darn shame the Wii U had to go through such a rough console run.
Good night, sweet prince.
@Ryu_Niiyama yep and yep
Looking on the bright side, the WiiU will be a bit rare in comparison to the previous systems. If you are a retro gaming collector, then you know what I mean.
@Metal_Storm
So, what are you waiting for ?
Buy Wii U as soon as possible before too late.
There are some Nintendo exclusives + Wii backward compatible.
@Danrenfroe2016 Nah the Virtual Boy was the biggest failure. Although Wii U game pad would be second.
@Tasuki na you stil have the 64 dd, the famicom disk system, the gameboy micro and the power glove.
Sold worse that the Virtual Boy? Doubtful.
@LegendOfPokemon
Both of the people in front of me were trading in their Wii U systems and games. One guy got $500+ for all his stuff then bought a new ps4 slim uncharted 4 bundle and still had money to put toward the NX. I would suspect that the trade values on Wii U games will not be this high again.
@KnightRider666 I don't know what that guys talking about. The virtual boy barely cleared 500,000 units.
Quite a shame the Wii U sold terribly, it has some titles I really enjoyed such as Bayonetta, Splatoon and Mario Kart. Digital-wise is where the Wii U shined the most compared to the Wii. It had much more interesting indie games like Guacamelee, Runbow and Fast Racing NEO. While the Virtual Console selection overall is smaller than the Wii, but it managed to bring over both Earthbound and Mother 1 while also bringing in more rare titles like Xenoblade and Metroid Prime Trilogy.
Alas, the Wii U was doomed due to being under-powered, lack of third parties, bad marketing, many droughts and the console itself being very expensive compared to the more appealing competition. I'll always remember console as it has brought in a lot of fun times, here's hoping Nintendo does a better job with their next console if they don't want another failure like the Wii U.
@faint: Really? I'm sure the Wii U sold more than that.
Part of me fears that the NX is Nintendo's subtle way of leaving the dedicated home console business and eventually become handheld/mobile exclusively.
That would make the Wii U the last home console Nintendo would release. 😕. I hope I'm completely wrong.
I am sad that the Wii U didn't do well. I've played and enjoyed it 1000x more than my Xbox One, but it must be said home console gaming for me just isn't what it used to be. 3DS has been top dog for me this generation.
I'm excited for the future, the NX had better be good! I'm going to be getting one day 1. I've already decided.
RIP Wii U, you will be remembered fondly forever!
I am sad that the Wii U didn't do well. I've played and enjoyed it 1000x more than my Xbox One, but it must be said home console gaming for me just isn't what it used to be. 3DS has been top dog for me this generation.
I'm excited for the future, the NX had better be good! I'm going to be getting one day 1. I've already decided.
RIP Wii U, you will be remembered fondly forever!
so sad.. for me and my girlfriend the best console since the ps1..
I just realised that the EB Games Australia website have no Wii U category now. It really is the end.
Still love U Wii U! Now and always!
Let´s hope NX does better and Nintendo has learned about it´s mistakes.
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Hahahahahahahaha! We´re Nintendoomed!
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Gotta play some Smash4 and Splatoon now.
Goes to show how brutal the market can be when a console with a decent number of exclusives can not only fail, but fail so quickly. It was obvious by mid-2014 it was never going to pick up and Nintendo's E3 showing in 2015 effectively sent it to the history books. Nintendo simply got too much wrong for it to ever stand a chance.
I expect it's legacy to live on as a big stash of remasters on NX.
Personally I've enjoyed mine. It's not my favourite Nintendo console ever* but I got a lot of play out of it between purchase in October 2013 and the end of 2014. My usage dropped off after buying the other two consoles but it's never been unplugged and I don't see it being for a long time.
*I'm talking about the retail machine there. Since installing the Wii HBC and Nintendont for GameCube games it is effectively every Nintendo console ever which by default makes it my favourite!
@rjejr
I've been saying for a while that Nintendo haven't been bothered about selling any Wii U's. It's been that way for over a year. It's makes perfect sense to them-dont waste effort flogging a dead horse, pack the schedule with filler, push the 3DS which has more games to sell, push the NES Mini to remind adults of their glory days, clear retail channels of leftover stock, dont dampen the impact of remastering the Wii U's big games on NX.
It's sad but not surprising.I hope they don't discontinue the games and the Wii U e-shop at least.I still have things to play,so I'm keeping my Wii U for at least one more hear and I'm not buying NX at launch.
@vanzan No problem.
My favourite console experience since the Megadrive. Great times. Like others have mentioned, now may be the time buy a second Wii U and put it in storage...
@SLIGEACH_EIRE
Meanwhile in Wicklow.....
@kingc8
I'm not sure it will. Nintendo have studiously avoided having any excess stock in the retail chain.
what a shame, not surprise in the least.
although i do plan on getting more wii u games before the end of the year. got plenty of games too look foreword for this console still.
The best thing about the wii u is it plays your Nes, snes, n64, GameCube and wii games.
Wii u didn't do well and Nintendo is showing us wii u owners the middle finger but it'll still be plugged behind the tv
@Ikramali It doesn't play Gamecube games. Its VC sucked in comparison to the Wii. Another example of how Nintendo let us down. You're supposed to progress with each generation, not regress.
@Ikramali In the UK, as long as it plays FIFA, GTA and Call of Duty that's all that matters. People who know their games make up about 3% of the buying public.
"With thanks to @SLIGEACH_EIRE for the heads up."
Our boy passed the reporter test with flying colours!
I personally don't care that the Wii U didn't do well, the only downer is that they pulled the plug pretty much after 2014, but the games I got and the time I've had with it, plus the back catalogue I'm still to pick up, made me glad I bought one. Putting sales to the side it's one of the best consoles I've ever owned.
people say it needs a price drop i'm in the UK and i saw one for £239 and it come with mario kart 8 and splatoon
@Spoony_Tech The PS3 is still selling rather strongly. There's many people that are still purchasing them. It's a surprise that the VITA is still on store shelves for me. I even see the original Wii's on the shelves.
@Ryu_Niiyama Glad I'm not the only one that noticed that trend. It seemed that the last year of each one of their consoles, they barely did anything on it...maybe a game of two and (in the Wii and Wii U era) a game or two thrown on the e-shop. You can always tell when their next console is coming out because that fifth and final year of their recent one...they barely make anything for it.
@WiltonRoots true
@SLIGEACH_EIRE that's correct but through home brew methods nintendont with the GameCube adapter.
Got to finally 100% super Mario sunshine on the wii u
I still play Mario kart double dash
Wii U seemed to be lost by retailers earlier than this. In my area, Toys R Us, Best Buy, Target and Walmart all seemed to have their sides of that game area almost empty...Toys R Us doesn't even have an area at all for the Wii U...just a few regular Wii games, accessories and Amiibos...nothing for Wii U. Even in Gamestop, they have a bunch of used games, but barely anything in the new category. My brother actually bought a Wii U, but is having so many problems trying to find the games for it, and he hates shopping online, but that's about his only way to get most of them. It's just sad about the console, but it's definitely going to become a big collector's item throughout the years (sort of like the virtual boy).
@Ikramali Gamecube was a great system, it was also ashame that it didn't do that great either...still though, it has a strong following and there's a reason why not many of the systems or games are ever found in pawn shops, retro game stores or even yard sales.
@JLPick My silver Gamecube is still plugged in to a SCART socket and taking pride of place under my TV...Not selling it any time soon. It's an amazing piece of kit.
@JLPick it's so hard in the uk to find GameCube game and if you do it's crazy prices. Computer xchange sells super Mario sunshine for 45 pounds that's smash melee is even more.
Best place is eBay.
That's why I boot the wii u a lot as I play so many generations of consoles in one
@WiltonRoots I've got rid of the GameCube after wii as that was backwards compatible plus component cables makes better pucture
Nintendo had to ensure success for the 3DS after it's slow start , thus neglecting the Wii U from a software point of view. They knew within the first 16 months the Wii U wasn't going to sell as they hoped. Then the factory that made the custom chips was bought by Sony , with rumours claiming less than 20 million chips made. At that point in time Nintendo rightly reasoned that they would be better investing in their next console rather than spending more money on producing hardware that was pretty much doomed (by the internet) before launch. The major lesson Nintendo learnt from the Wii U was to not reveal too early - as now evidenced by NX , much to the internets chagrin.
Strange.
The Wii U maybe sold poorly but it still has the best games for a boy at seven. I bought Super Mario Maker bunde with The Premium version of The console a year ago as birthday present for my son. Today he has 10+ fantastic games. Most are Nintendo exclusives sponsored by his father. Together with me and his friends it has been just fun. More fun than if I one year ago bought A PlayStation or Xbox. I dont know what future brings but that does not remove the great times we have had and still have.
I wonder if Nint will draw the sobering conclusion that their 1st party exclusives no longer tempt players into buying their console (even as a 2nd or 3rd home machine). I find it interesting that none of their big hitters came anywhere close to revitalising sales.
The Nintendo Wii U is probably the saddest tale I've ever seen happen in my history of a video gamer.
What makes it so sad is the fact that the Wii U itself didn't deserve the treatment it got, there are some amazing quality titles on the Wii U but the reason it didn't sell well was because Nintendo handled it poorly. It had very little advertisement, a very weak launch window, and a history of 3rd party neglect due to the weak specs for a console.
The system itself is amazing, I've played my Nintendo Wii U tons since I got it in 2013 and I've loved many of the games that have appeared on it. Splatoon, Mario Kart 8, Super Smash Bros Wii U, Pokken Tournament, Super Mario Maker, Hyrule Warriors, Yoshi's Woolly World, Super Mario 3D World, and even the HD ports of Zelda The Wind Waker and Zelda Twilight Princess were awesome. And that's not counting games I ain't played like Xenoblade Chronicles X, Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze, and Bayonetta 2!
All of these games are fantastic but they simply were not enough to give the console a solid chance.
Nintendo, if there's any good thing that can come out of the Wii U, besides the games I just listed, it's the chance that you've learned from your failure and will work to make the NX amazing and not have the same issues with that console as the Wii U has.
Sucks, I thought it would at least match the GameCube's sales. It's a great machine with great games (ok not all of the ones we wanted but still) and a neat, albeit underused, concept.
The WiiU is dead. Long live the NX! Whatever the heck it is...
@gatorboi352 I'm sorry you feel that way, however that wasn't my experience. The majority of my fun this gen has been had on the wiiu. Nintendo delivered some very solid entries of to many of their staple franchises on that system (mk8, smash, 3dworld) along with xenoblade and a number of solid entries from platinum and some new fun surprises (pokken, splatoon, #FE). I regularly took my gamepad to bed and was able to finish a number of titles that have been crowding my backlog. The gamepad is currently my favorite controller that isn't a fightstick. BoTW is already looking to take up much of my gaming time next year and has already pushed back a number of other titles in my must buy right now list.
I haven't been very impressed with much of the x86 twins this gen, with its bevy of remakes, annuals and ports although things seem to be looking up from a gaming perspective next year for them.
From the perspective of a person that greatly enjoys Nintendo games, the wiiu delivered a very solid library. Sure there are a few franchises that I think the system's commercial failure prevented from being made, but all in all I enjoyed it enough that I imported an extra and bought one for a friend. The system kept pretty solid (though not consistent ) support from both Nintendo and their more loyal dev partners. I fully acknowledge that it could have been better, but the same can be said for any product. My ps4 and xbone are currently in storage somewhere as I haven't played them in months. I've been disappointed by both enough that I'm considering sitting their successors out next gen. Even with PC I've gone back to my staples (RTS games) since the current console ports have been pretty boring for me. Yet the wiiu gets playtime nearly everyday. WiiU will be a system that I look upon fondly and return to regularly, similar to the gamecube.
You cite the multiplats, and while from business perspective I agree with you, my comment had nothing to with that. At this point I can only speak to what the wiiu has, and not what it "should've" had. Despite its struggles, the wiiu kept delivering unique, fun experiences. I game to have fun; to experience honest joy when I'm playing and I can firmly say that Nintendo delivered on that this gen.
@Giygas_95 I doubt they will cancel a game they have already worked so long on. They may not release at the same time a la TP but I am certain both versions will come out. I know I'm getting the WiiU version first unless the NX has a gamepad.
@shani it's weird you'd claim it's "somewhere between N64 and GameCube" (I think you need to go and look at their games again btw) and as proof link to a video that states "it's significantly more powerful than the graphics chips found in the PS3 and Xbox360".
Anyway this is a rumour and it's not just the graphics chip that affects these things. It's also likely that Nintendo will have a modified, highly optimised chip specifically for their console.
There are also rumour that the NX is a portable that can connect to the TV via a supplemental power unit. It could be that a Tegra chip is just for the portable side if both rumours are true. With the supplemental unit then bringing it up TV levels.
Hopefully Nintendo will reveal it soon and we'll all know either way
@speedracer216 Agreed, the WiiU had/has a solid game library. It has been a long time since I've had a console give me the "glaring at the clock, need to go home to play now" feeling. Yet games like W101, Bayo2, Pokken, Pikmin, Splatoon and DK (honestly most of the library) did just that!
@Captain_Gonru I knew you'd know. So the Wii U kiosks are gone in TRU? I need to start paying attention. So no NES Mini kiosks, got it. Seemed a bit excessive for a $60 toy for the holiday anyway, which is why I asked. But I still expect it to have more marketing and floor space than Wii U, the deformed stepchild hidden away in the basement.
Now I'm curious again about the Mini, if they'll try to promote it or just put it on shelves and forget about it? Guess it won't be long now before the BF leaks get active. Oh, and I know you'll be hella busy the next 3 months, so don't worry about replies, I'll still be here in January.
@JLPick It just highlights their "unprecedented relationship" with the current prominent third parties. I think they should start preparing for this. Have some twilight titles ready so that people are still talking about the system before its sunset. That way they don't have to start from scratch and stir up consumer interest all over again for the non Nintendo fans.
Well I been saying it for a year and a half now- and even STILL NOW you're selling the thing for $299!!! Price should of been lowered 2 years ago! That would of helped get it in homes and you probably would have sold more software too!! I just don't understand almost anything Nintendo does!!
@Ikramali I never bought a Wii or any console from that generation. So as far as the issue of backwards compatibility goes, my cube is plugged in so I don't need that virtual console experience, plus my Wii U is backwards compatible with the Wii so if I feel the need to get Wii games, I'm pretty much set
Thank you for the four+ years of memories.
@AlexSora89 I'm just glad that my stories and links are finally being delivered to the site. All this time I thought they were being received but being ignored. It was telling me they were received but I may as well have been sending them to outer space.
The lads on the site did some tinkering around and testing yesterday with the contact form and all is sorted now. It should help everyone sending in news to the site in future, I know I got a lot of stick over it but I was the most vocal about what was happening.
@WiltonRoots you can also play GameCube on your wii u.
@RadioHedgeFund wow!! I thought I was the only PS3 owner going thru that! I own 3 PS3s and I'm always getting kicked out of the PSN store. It's ridiculous! Right as I'm about to make a purchase, or go to view some screenshots or trailers! Or even worse the system totally locks up and you no choice but to hard start! It's so annoying!! Never ever ever have these problems with my 360s! Ps4 so far so good...
Personally, I kind of want this. With the understanding that NX is some sort of hybrid handheld/console, I actually want Nintendo to stop production of Wii U consoles once the NX comes out, 3DS too to a degree, and basically focus all of its efforts of making the NX the most amazing thing ever, with a stream of hit first party games the likes of which will blow people away. You know, like it did back in the days of NES, SNES, and even 64 to a degree (despite its droughts). If it has to waste anymore breath on the Wii U it's just wasting breath on the Wii U.
PS. Nintendo really needs to start developing strategies to be able to sell and support its consoles long into the next generation going forward, much like Sony has successfully done since the very first PlayStation (with each of the PS consoles having a near ten year lifespan in total; and I mean a decent/healthy life during that time), because a four year lifespan for a console is just abysmal (although understandable in this case), and even with it successful consoles it's got into a really bad habit of basically dropping them like bricks once the new hardware comes around, which really is not great for consumers. This is one of the many reasons why I think both Sony and Microsoft are seeing greater success with their home consoles than Nintendo these days: Consumers know they're buying into these devices that are going to in it for the long haul, seeing support well into the next generation, and that's a great thing.
The wii u was a failure but my kids (6, and 5 year old) won't know that as it's the only console we play together. Even my wife started playing super Mario 3D world with the kids
Super Mario 3D world
New super Mario bros u
New super luigi u
Splatoon
Smash 4
Donkey kong tropical freeze
Nintendo land
Wii party u
Captain toad treasure tracker
Yoshis wooly world
Mario kart 8 and more.
Still haven't finished most
Plus the games I have which came free
Zombi u
Wonderful 101
Mass effect and more
All were great. I just hope they continue the servers for online gaming
@JLPick that would normally make sense but with Wii u Nintendo barely made anything at all the whole console cycle. Slow as snails!
I don't like it yet I do agree with it and I purchased a Wii U day one and I love the Wii U it has some amazing exclusive titles with some still on the way I've no regrets with my purchase and I will continue to remember it fondly but I do hope Nintendo put all their efforts in making NX a success and I hope it is . The Wii U though it is such a shame this is its date cause it truly is through and through a remarkable amazing system
What I find most funny is on a whim I go to Gamestop and check out the prices for the Wii U, both new and used and it is still way overpriced for a console that is about to go out of production. The damn thing should be selling for 199.99 brand new and 169.99 used at the very most. Nintendo is terrible at lowering the prices on their consoles, how can you with a straight face still ask 300 bucks for a Wii U these days?
@Amrulez totally agree. Has great games but that price will put any person especially a parent buying a console and knowing that it is coming to a end put off
@BiasedSonyFan You wasted far too much energy on that dude.
@3MonthBeef I need your realistic & positive outlook. 🙂 Cheers!
I like the Wii-U and if The Legend Of Zelda: Breath Of The Wild makes it to Wii-U I'll buy two copies of it, it kinda reminds me when Nintendo did this the GameCube and Wii of T.P. If the Wii-U gets a big price drop, I might get a third one to keep boxed. I wonder if Nintendo will do one day make a Wii-U mini? I loved the Wii version.
So NX has still not been revealed but a March 2017 release is possible, I won't buy one until December 2017.
I guess it's safe to say there will never be a Wii U Classic Edition/ Mini given the poor sales of the original console?
@KnightRider666 the wiiu sold about 14 million units.
@Tasuki lol... yes. Almost forgot.
@Romeo-75 .... I think some of the software, was amazing and great. But hardware was a waste of silicon. Remember that it was based on the GameCube LOL...
Nintendo has got it in its head that we want a new way to play....
I just want a Nintendo PS4 like machine.
Yet Nintendo insists NX won't be replacing the Wii U (nor the 3DS).
It's a shame it wasn't as successful as the Wii and didn't receive as much third party support as other consoles. But you can still say it was great console with some amazing games like every other before it.
So yeah... Where is this new machine again?
@Totaldude911 The NX Probably won't be revealed until Thanksgiving or Christmas! They keep the NX a secret to everybody, because if they revealed it, everyone would say "THE WII U? I WANT THE NX!" And sales would go down drastically!
@YoshiAngemon How have you been registered here 8 years and not picked up that that sort of language is not OK around here?
@ArcadeLove - You've breached the profanity rules a number of times over the last week. Please read the Community Rules and apply them. If you continue to use profanity then you're likely to be banned from posting. This is a family-friendly site - please try to help keep it that way. Thanks.
@The_Dude_Abides
If they did that, that would be an enormous kick in the balls to any and all Wii U owners who enjoy their systems, including myself, and would heavily whittle down people supporting the NX, especially at launch.
And we all know Nintendo does NOT want that.
If YOU were smart, you would stop making dumb comments. Although I suppose that is to be expected with some dude smoking a cigarette, thinking he looks cool as your avatar.
Why are you here again?
@yomanation
The Wii U is an abysmal failure? The N64 controller is an abysmal failure. At least the Wii U was basically a SNES controller with a screen in the middle, and not to mention, hosted games like PIKMIN 3, and MARIO KART 8. Them alone are enough. And if that wasn't somehow enough, the thing allowed you to play DS, GBA, Wii, AND N64 games. Unfortunately, something the 64, (nor the godly 'Cube) could do.
The N64 is not the greatest console of all time. That would be it's successor from 2001; the GameCube.
Although, I agree in the form that N64 is an extraordinarily close second.
Refer to my 'Cube (and '64) thread/shrine as proof.
https://www.nintendolife.com/forums/retro/the_nintendo_gamecube
Love my Wii U. Got a backlog of great games that will last for years.
Quietly salutes and sails away on his ship made out of Wii U game cases
I don't know why the headline made me belt out a sinister little chuckle... Perhaps the evil little Grinch in me is ready for the Wii U to locate its headstone among the used batteries, frayed wires, and rusted parts of the EOL Graveyard. Here's looking forward to the NX... whatever it is.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE
Noice! I might do this as well in the future... provided I'm quick enough, that is.
@DerMeister
I feel ya. However, nintendo never really had their heart into the system!
@Romeo-75
I agree. I think the saving grace for the Wii U is the Amiibo! That was a decent cash cow. To my knowledge the Amiibo is still selling some what decent.
@ArcadeLove Enjoy your ban kid.
I would like to say though I feel the Wii U missed it's mark and potential because of video game politics mostly I mean it was released ahead of PS4 and Xbox1 and all the media was like Sony and Microsoft have more powerful systems coming out- more power and more power and that always equals better right?, Nintendo sucks right? To me the video game media always works against Nintendo and it's a shame cause as anyone who has bought a Nintendo system knows bigger is not always better . Nintendo always brings innovation to the table with a balance in power thankfully they are still in the game or I think we would all be playing the same thing over and over so in this regard I really hope the NX strikes a cord with players.
@Captain_Gonru Did you know there is a Chinese Hulk called Isildore Cho or something like that. It's like the Jar Jar Bunks of comic books. I can't step foot in those places anymore.
@King_Johobo Its under the MORE tag where they've always had it. It always annoyed me that that put it there hidden away.
Price Cut PLEASE. Give us a $250 Wii U on store shelves before I hunt down a pre-owned Wii U for $250 and take my chances.
... W-Well, at least it lasted longer than we thought, right? Right?!
@Captain_Gonru NES Mini is to holdhe floor space between Wii U and NX. Just b/c you convinced me no kiosks doesn't mean I'm giving up the entire idea of the NES being a holiday stop gap.
I don't think Wii U is ever getting a price cut, Nintendo will keep it $299 until it lets stores clearance it out after the holidays. They don't want to bring any attention to it, which a price cut would do, they want it to go quietly into the night. Which is weird w/ Zelda coming, but while it will be on Wii U they want everyone to buy it on NX. There will be no Wii U sections in stores when it releases, it will have to be w/ the NX games.
@rjejr Amadeus Cho is Korean-American, and pretty funny actually. He is also on an intellectual par with Banner with less of the baggage. Sorry to butt in.
@yomanation
Screw what the N64 achieved. Did it actually FEEL GOOD? No. Nobody is going to say yes. The GCN controller did achieve something that you're missing, though. It achieved perfection. No other controller, except perhaps the DualShock, has achieved utter peace and harmony with your palms and fingers. The thing feels like it's melted itself within your hands. As if the GameCube and your body have become one. Often, I forget that I'm holding it. It's just that good.
Nintendo's consoles have a specific pattern that repeats itself every 2 cycles. Innovation, then perfection. NES = Innovation -> SNES = Perfection -> N64 = Innovation -> GCN = Perfection -> Wii = Innovation -> Wii U = Perfection
The NX is set to be an innovation next year.
Btw, another reason why the GameCube was the definitive perfection? It had Wave Race, it had 1080, it had F-Zero, it had the best Metroid Primes, it had the best Zelda, I don't even need to go on.
It has the N64 cornered in every aspect.
EDIT: As you can see, this post is very opinionated. Observe the much bias, the such wow.
The Wii U has had some of the best games I have played in recent years released on it, and I will always treasure those memories. I am so ready to make new memories on the NX!
[whispers] That's because the Gamecube was better. In every way. The only thing the Wii U has up on the Gamecube is Monster Hunter, and that's because in 2001 Monster Hunter hadn't even been invented yet.
@Haru17 psss the wiiu has online and hd
@faint PSSSSSSST!
I already said Monster Hunter.
I just got PS4 and already looking forward to NX. I don't care about the sales, I just want to play all the interesting games. My biggest problem will be whether I'll buy the new Zelda for Wii U or NX. Life's good.
Worst selling N home console because of worst game library of all N home consoles. For me it was enough, but that's me.
There is no mystery in Wii U fail.
@Captain_Gonru I'm thinking more Sony stuff may replace the Wii U section in stores if the NX reveal is too far away. Maybe a whole section dedicated to PSVR?
If I see a cheap Wii u after Christmas I'll probably buy it.
@technotreegrass
Wait till Black Friday and try to get a good deal
@iGen I loved the N64 controller. I also never saw what was so great about the Gamecube controller. I liked it (and the console). I personally don't think it's the greatest controller ever. Different strokes,.I guess
@Captain_Gonru It's early on a Sunday morning (early, not easy, stop singing the Commodores), we need to start an "NX Anonymous" support group ASAP.
I had a thought this morning. Could they set up the playable NX kiosks in say November even though the hardware doesn't go on sale until March? It might give people pause before making big holiday purchases.
And I have been saying NX in August, but I've decided that's too late, June is more likely if there is a delay.
My wife, who has a lot of books manufactured in China and sent via boat to the US, says 6 weeks travel time. And they can't get anything manufactured or shipped for a week during the Chinese New Year celebration. In 2017 it's Jan 27-Feb 2nd. That's about 6 weeks before mid-March. So, they would need to have a lot of inventory manufactured and shipped before then or it's going to be delayed, or the initial shipment is going to sell out and they are going to have at least a week w/ no stock on shelves, which is not a good way to launch a console, people will go back to buying X1S and PS4 during that week and forget all about NX, short attention spans these days.
Could be May, I think Ntineod has a history of saying Q1 and releasing in May, I think they mix up the letters.
No new NX news? I'm going back to bed.
@Captain_Gonru "And come fall, the 3DS games will be gone too, since that's when the common logic dictates that system says its farewells."
I'm going to have to disagree w/ your retail expertise on that one. But seeing as how it was 1AM I'll blame it on the fatigue.
I think NX, whatever it is - can't believe after all this time not only don't we know but I'm still torn between Thanos and his conspiracy theorists and the rest of the world - will be expensive. Maybe even Pachter $399 expensive if its a Wii U 2 done right. That means they have to keep the 2DS around for the kids until we get a 2DS replacement tablet, maybe not until 2018. So it may shrink, but I think the 3DS games section stays awahile fo rh ekids.
Plus, I guess you forgot, I'm all in for NX playing 3DS carts. Whether it's a Home and Away or a tablet or Tessereact or Core or whatever, I think there will be a cart slot that accepts 3DS games somewhere and play them natively, especially if it's DMP powering the thing. No disc slot means Wii U games will be remastered like PS3 games on PS4. I wont be shocked if it's a hybrid or a Home and Away, but I will be shocked if it's doesn't accept 3DS carts. too many new 3DS games coming out next year for it not too. And the Home ONLY sells as a "3DS Player", nobody is buying a new Ninteod home console after Wii U games lasted only 3 years.
When NX gets announced we're going to have a party, all night long. Then when it launches we can all celebrate and have a good time.
@iGen
About Nintendo Innovation and Perfection, sounds interesting.
Could it be NX will become a new Innovation ?
Well, better we wait and see...
@Ryu_Niiyama Hey thanks for butting in, appreciate correct info, a nice change of pace from all the NX leaks.
I thought he was Chinese b/c I only read about him being the same as Jeremy Lin, who is Taiwanese but everybody is always referring to him as Chinese. At least while he was in NY during the Linsanity period - I'm a Knicks fan, it was a fun few weeks.
http://www.newsarama.com/31067-nbas-linsanity-to-come-to-marvels-totally-awesome-hulk.html
That's pretty crazy. As unsuccessful as the Wii U was, I still love it very much! I still spend too much time on Mario Maker and Splatoon.
I do agree with a lot of the comments saying that Nintendo has not supported the Wii U enough this time but I think the real reason the Wii U has sold so few consoles is because of it's name. If you were to ask many Wii owners who are not so-called ' hardcore gamers' and they would probably tell you the Wii and Wii U are both the same console. The Wii U being a more expensive upgraded version. I think Nintendo should have given it a different name in order to differentiate between the two consoles.
@Captain_Gonru Lastly, I think a playable "NX" kiosk that soon before launch wouldn't happen. "
Oh yeah, right, I forgot, people are stupid. I was kind of hoping a big banne rlike that as a backdrop would help them figure it out. Maybe replace "Winter" w/ NX, or whatever it will be called.
This is sad, but inevitable. I finally purchased a WiiU about 1 year ago and it has been my go-to console in place of my PS3 and PS4, or even gaming PC in many instances. For the longest time, I was bitten by the hardware/graphics numbers of other consoles and looked down my nose at Nintendo's systems. This was a mistake and I'll be purchasing a NX as soon as I can get my hands on one.
Well I guess we all wait to see if any of these conjectures are proven...
When is the NX reveal coming?
... ?
I just bought myself one last week. My family has had one since launch, but I thought it was finally time to have one of my own. I have been having a blast with it took such a shame the Wii U hasn't gotten the attention that it definitely deserves. I think it is leagues ahead of PS4 and Xbox One in terms of "fun value" and the quality of games available.
Please do the NX right Nintendo. Please let this one be a success!
@Captain_Gonru @ThanosReXXX You guys are killing me, over 100 comments in 1 thread, over 200 in the other, and each of you guys skipped 1 thread entirely. How did you both manage that?
Anyway, combining my comments to the 2 of you, and I'm not sure if each of you got 1/2 of the argument, or 1 of you got both halves, but here goes.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-09-23/nvidia-job-postings-suggest-an-nvidia-chip-return-to-apple-macs
http://www.fool.com/investing/2016/09/23/nvidia-corporation-could-win-back-the-apple-inc-ma.aspx
Maybe my humourous "iGame" idea of Nintnedo giving up on NX and selling it to Apple as a mobile platform isn't completely insane. Maybe Apple is making an "iGame", either a handheld gaming tablet or a bluetoth controller for it's phones and tablets.
And maybe Nvdia canceled it's Shield 2 b/c it's putting it's chips into an Apple gaming device? Nintendo may be big w/ 60mil 3DS sold, but Apple has over 1 billion iPhones sold.
http://www.theverge.com/2016/7/27/12302542/apple-billion-iphones-sold
I don't think Nvnvdia could ever plan to sell 1 billion Shield consoles on it's own. Imagine if it could get into an Apple gaming product. Maybe a 2/3DS like device that does TV out via the new $150 Apple TV? Or maybe it comes w/ it's own "Stick" dongle. Yeah, I know, it sounds stupid, but so does an iWatch, didn't stop them from making one. And yes, most mobile games use touchscreen now, but the controller game segment is growing. If anybody could sell a iGame it's Apple.
Apple is helping these guys, probably so they could steal their ideas and make them their own.
http://www.idownloadblog.com/2012/12/23/iphone-gamepad-kickstarter/
And I know Apple iPhones are like $600, but the iPod Touch - yes are are still a thing starting at $199 - could be the basis for a iGame.
http://www.apple.com/ipod-touch/
Having just moved to the US from Europe two months ago, I can tell you the Wii U has a much bigger presence in America than it does in Europe. You see it stocked in every electronics outlet and game shop. In the UK it was removed from most electronics outlets over a year ago and only game shops sell the games.
@yomanation
I meant that like a concept. Not as in the Wii U is actually a perfect console. The 'Cube built upon the N64 and perfected the graphics, control style (Most people are going to agree with me. That's simply a fact that the GCN controller is better.), and arguably system itself, because it's smaller. The SNES perfected what the NES innovated. It perfected the graphics, sound chip, and control style, (Again, most people.)
It's no secret that Wii U was a flop. It didn't entirely perfect what the Wii introduced, except maybe for graphics. It could even be said, that by the end of it's lifetime, the Wii perfected itself. Developers were more familiar with it's "Hollywood" graphics card, Wii Remote, and it's possibilities. The Wii U introduced the GamePad, instead of building upon the concept of the Wii Remote. So, intuitively, that may well be the reason why it was a bomb from the beginning. It was set for perfecting the concept of the Wii, but instead it broke the cycle spanning 30+ years, and tried to introduce something new, when just a few years prior, the world already got something new.
So, with that logic, it's unclear if the NX will innovate with a new concept of it's own, or perfect the concept of what the Wii U tried to accomplish.
You don't need to be an as*hole about it. I'm sorry if I was too opinionated, you should have found that out yourself.
@UmbreonsPapa
For most people, I think it's just the buttons are so streamlined, with A being the most important button, (Also the fact that you can really hammer it.) and the grips just seem to melt in your hands. The L & R buttons are so accustomed to your fingers resting on them, and the cool circle shapes on it made it all the cooler.
Just my opinion.
@yomanation
Mmm, quite right.
@Grumblevolcano Wouldn't PSVR just replace PSP and Vita in stores? Most stores still have a section for those. Of course we don't even know how PSVR will be displayed in stores, I think Best Buy may have headsets, but most probably.
@rjejr Quick answer: a thousandfold NO on anything that combines Nintendo with Apple and/or Nvidia. Mr. Iwata wanted Nintendo to be LIKE Apple, not merge with them.
Other than that, I haven't got any useful comment to make on this.
Far as I am concerned, NX is DMP and AMD, nothing else.
@ThanosReXXX " a thousandfold NO on anything that combines Nintendo with Apple"
Super Mario Run timed exclusive doesn't qualify as "anything"? What if every game going forward is also a timed exclusive? They announced FE and AC got delayed until next year.
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/09/super_mario_run_release_prompts_delay_to_animal_crossing_and_fire_emblem_mobile_games
If SMR is an Apple exclusive, for who knows how long, why not release AC and FE to Android in the mean time so Android users have something to play until they get SMR?
If every game starts out as an Apple exclusive that counts as something to me, Apple gets 30% of all apps. (Well at least they used to maybe its changed or maybe Ntineod struck a deal for Apple exclusivity, maybe they lowered it to 22.5% or something.)
http://www.idownloadblog.com/2015/06/05/apple-70-30-media-split/
As for Nvidia, I just thought it interesting that everybody assumed the Nvidia chips were for Apple Macs rather than something game related.
@rjejr its amadeus cho and he's korean american. Hehehe
@rjejr Obviously I was only talking about anything NX related. And endless runner on iOS does nowhere near qualify as Apple and Nintendo working together in the home console space.
And no assuming needed on Nvidia and Apple. It's VERY strongly hinted at and all but confirmed. On a scale of 1 to 10, it's a solid 8, whereas Nvidia/Nintendo is either a 1 or not even on the scale to begin with...
Go take a peek at the 5 most important seconds of that SMD video, remember: the one at the 5m40s mark?
A little disappointed that this news was even published on the site. It originates from a blatantly clickbait article, designed exclusively to insinuate without proof that the NX would be launched in December. Completely poinless.
nonono! im saving up for a wii u!!!!!
but, the nx is a loooong way away. they havent even shown it off yet... this makes no sense.
@ThanosReXXX You still think SMD isn't talking trash, eh?
@Grumblevolcano I like his videos, sure. But I don't think that he is all-knowing, but talking trash is the complete other end of the spectrum and if anything, he is always quite relaxed, doesn't insult other people and he does his research most of the time.
He did make some odd assumptions in his latest video, but other than that, he is quite down to earth most of the time.
Want trash talk? Go to doctre81 or OBE1Plays...
(but it depends on your definition of trash talk: you seem to mean "nonsense" whereas I would see trash talk as bad mouthing other people, insulting them or downright stomping them into the ground)
@ThanosReXXX Nonsense is more suitable for what I was trying to put across.
@Grumblevolcano Well, I think that's highly exaggerated. He makes a couple of bold statements here and there, but most of his theories are supported by a decent amount of info backing up what he is saying.
It's not like he is saying that he has trusted/reliable sources and we will just have to take his word for it concerning what NX is going to be...
He presents us with information, gives his own opinion on how to interpret it, but leaves it up to his viewers to make up their own mind and he actually invites the discussion, so I don't see what the issue is here.
You don't like him or his videos for whatever reason, then of course that's your opinion, but he doesn't talk trash and he isn't spouting nonsense, just his opinion based upon info that is tangible and freely available for us all, which is what speaks to me a lot more than the "trust us, we know" stance...
@polarbear: Agreed. And this is a scary thought for the NX: Are Wii U gamers ready to commit $$$ for a new system and games when they've still got a Wii U backlog of games (not to mention the inevitable price crash of games they have not yet acquired)?? If that core base isn't captured, does the NX have a fighting chance?
Oh no, I never got around to publishing anything on it! I have had a kit sitting around for a year and a half now. :-/
Might still be fun to go through the process though.
I guess Nintendo can be faulted for a number of poor choices rolling the system out, starting with giving it a name that was not only dopey and meaningless (what did the U even mean?), but also confusing and off-putting to all the new customers they gained with the Wii, many of whom may not have known the games industry sheds its skin every 5 years and thought buying a system was an investment that should have lasted longer.
In many ways it's the best system they ever put out, with the ability to mimic all the previous ones while adding HD and a controller that added a second screen they just couldn't figure out what to do with. A few first rate first party titles coming on the scene too late to get the recognition they deserved (if Super Mario 3D World had come out back when Mario 64 did it would have been considered a masterpiece, instead of being so widely dismissed as "that cat suit game").
I have to wonder why so many are looking to the "NX" (does anyone believe for a second it'll be called that in the end?) as something to watch for. Where were they all when the Wii U came out? Then again, who expected the original Wii to take off like it did right after the Gamecube largely laid there?
Is it true?
@iGen You do know that you can play the entire Gamecube library on a Wii don't you?
@FSOE13
And?
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