@Shane76 Are you serious? You literally just implied it. Wow.
“To this end I suspect the big game companies are paying Shills to promote Digital on internet forums youtube etc.If you want physical to say do your part and argue against these shills.”
@Shane76 “The idea of swapping game cartridges out of your switch to be considered worthwhile exercise is laughable. I use a 256 gb memory card and haven’t had issues with space, you can always delete and redownload games that you don’t play anymore. And digital games are still better for the environment whether you care about it or not.” From
My previous post ...🙄
@Shane76 I’m saying that you made weak arguments on everything I laid out as an advantage because you felt the need to express your opinion on what I believe are positive aspects of digital games. How about making your own original list, independent of mine, on why you prefer physical games? Because trying to debunk mine isn’t fooling anyone.
You’re right, resale is a big one that I will miss.
@Shane76 you’re just being Devils Advocate and can’t really disscredit what I’ve laid out to be actual, undeniable advantages for digital game ownership: The idea of swapping game cartridges out of your switch to be considered worthwhile exercise is laughable. I use a 256 gb memory card and haven’t had issues with space, you can always delete and redownload games that you don’t play anymore. And digital games are still better for the environment whether you care about it or not.
@Patters being a casual gamer is all about convenience.
Advantages of digital games are:
1. Pre purchase software from the eShop, ready to play day one.
2. Carry your entire games library on your switch.
3. Swapping games without having to get up and sift through cases.
4. Won’t misplace games. (Ever open a case only to find an entirely different game? Or worse, no game?)
5. No extra space required to store the games on shelves or in boxes.
6. Better for the environment.
7. The thrill of modernizing your gaming hobby, because it’s 2019 and nothing is physical anymore.
@Vriess What would be so difficult? The original 2 games weren’t even dual stick. They would control better now with the added camera control from the right control stick.
Sorry just re-read your comment, i totally expect the games to be adapted for regular controls.
@sandman89 the original 2 were in GameCube with a single joystick for control, just add dual stick movement / camera and there should be no problem. Anything else can be remedied with a bit of motion controls I’d assume.
They announced Wind Waker HD shortly after the Breath of the Wild delay was announced because they wanted something to tide over the fans. I would appreciate an announcement sooner then later.
What if they pulled a dinosaur planet and Miyamoto convinced Retro to rebrand its current project as Metroid Prime 4? I’m half joking but it’s happened before. 😛
Absolutely stoked for this. Hopefully this will steer the series into a more inclusive direction and get more players involved. It was not fun trying to jump into the X/Y games after only playing the originals.
@Cobalt in the spirit of basic; a SNES game would be like drawing a 60 frame animation with a big fat marker on a tiny sticky note.
Octopaths 30 frame animation is drawn with a fine tip pen on a full size note pad.
My point is that you wont even notice the smooth animations drawn with the marker because the canvas is too small for that amount of detail.
Pixels are even more restricted because they are arranged on a grid. When the SNES does run at 60 FPS most of those frames are rendered as duplicates anyway.
@Cobalt I understand completely. The code loops 60 times each second rather then 30, simple. What I don’t understand is how you claim that a SNES game, and I’m quoting you: runs “smoother” then Octopath Traveler? What do you mean by smoother because that’s not a technical term. I would never describe a SNES game as smooth.
Example A. 60 FPS:
Every loop: add 1 to x position
(In one second the example would move 60 pixels)
Example B. 30 FPS:
Every loop add 1 to x position
(In one second the example would move 30 pixels)
Ex A. Will move twice as fast as Ex B. UNLESS there are twice as many pixels (higher resolution) and you will get smooth movement.
Now SNES games run at a lower resolution then what Octopath is running. To compensate, Example A. Should only then add 0.5 to X position, however you can’t really display 0.5 of a pixel so what’s the point?
@Cobalt yeah, I realize 60 FPS would force the game to run twice as fast; but do you honestly think that would make a difference in a turn based battle system? It won’t. The only thing left to speculate on is graphics and my point was: resolution > frame rate in terms of smoothness. How smooth do you think a game 60 FPS game would run at a 32x32 resolution? Graphically, in this context, “smoothness” is restrained by pixel size. Must have been a slow 10 years ...
@Cobalt sorry but c’mon; SNES games run at a MAX resolution of around 512x448, even at 60 FPS or higher, such a small res means it will never run as “smooth” as Octopath. Think about it, at 512x448 the SNES pixels are so large the slightest movement is still a massive and choppy shift per frame. Sure some SNES games may run at 60 FPS but you’ll never actually see it because there aren’t enough pixels to actually render such subtle movements.
@Cobalt Realistically you wouldn’t notice a difference if it was 60 FPS; most of the sprite based animations are probably around 4-24 FPS and considering how slow the characters move across the frame mixed with the lower resolution it would just be a wasteful use of processing power. If there were more pixels to render maaaaybe you would notice silkier movement at 60 FPS.
Did he just elude to a big holiday push for the SNES classic? I wonder if that means we won’t see snes games on the Nintendo Switch Online service until they feel the SNES classic has run its course.
Why is everyone so opposed to this? Change is good and it only means growth for the industry. And yeah, in ten years it could totally happen, look at Capcom streaming resident evil; it’s already happening. That’s a long time, especially in the tech industry.
The reality is the market for these casual Pokemon games is waaaaay larger then the core Pokemon games market. Is anyone really surprised? The game looks like a great compromise to me anyway, I wouldn’t be surprised if the next core game builds on the let’s go games just with generation 8 Pokemon.
Umm if they’re saying Let’s Go is part of the main line series then how is it a spin off? I actually like the Let’s Go changes, the core series has gotten really stale anyway. I wouldn’t be totally surprised if Gen 8 actually caries over some of the new elements used in these games.
I love this! I only played up to silver before I lost interest in the series’s and it eventually became overly complicated. If this is how good their switch spin-off is can you imagine the core game coming out next year? I imagine they’d want to differentiate the art style from the more casual Lets Go! Series. Maybe we will get that realistic open world Pokemon game I’ve been hoping for! 😁
I too was looking forward to this game but was sadly disappointed with the the controls, mechanics and especially the cringe worthy writing. However it is fun after you accept these flaws. I beat it in about 3 hours.
The look is slowly growing on me, i know the art is stylized but I think the lighting is too blown out and the depth of field is a bit aggressive, maybe there’ll be a graphics setting to turn it down. Less is more right?
I still have a problem leaving a $399.00 system to rattle around in a cardboard box with a child. Not for me. Will be interesting to see what becomes of this.
I’m interested to learn more about what “modernizing” means for their classic games. Ff IV for DS was good at the time, hopefully something in that direction but I doubt it. It would be a real shame if they decided to just port the mobile games. 😒
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Re: Download Warning Ruins Box Art For Final Fantasy X | X-2 HD Remaster
@Shane76 Are you serious? You literally just implied it. Wow.
“To this end I suspect the big game companies are paying Shills to promote Digital on internet forums youtube etc.If you want physical to say do your part and argue against these shills.”
Im done, not responding after this. Bye.
Re: Download Warning Ruins Box Art For Final Fantasy X | X-2 HD Remaster
@Shane76 no one is paying me doufus, you just proved my original point that you’re being devils advocate and arguing for the sake or arguing.
Re: Download Warning Ruins Box Art For Final Fantasy X | X-2 HD Remaster
@Shane76 “The idea of swapping game cartridges out of your switch to be considered worthwhile exercise is laughable. I use a 256 gb memory card and haven’t had issues with space, you can always delete and redownload games that you don’t play anymore. And digital games are still better for the environment whether you care about it or not.” From
My previous post ...🙄
Re: Download Warning Ruins Box Art For Final Fantasy X | X-2 HD Remaster
@Shane76 I already did, are you even reading my posts or just reacting out of spite?
Re: Download Warning Ruins Box Art For Final Fantasy X | X-2 HD Remaster
@Shane76 I’m saying that you made weak arguments on everything I laid out as an advantage because you felt the need to express your opinion on what I believe are positive aspects of digital games. How about making your own original list, independent of mine, on why you prefer physical games? Because trying to debunk mine isn’t fooling anyone.
You’re right, resale is a big one that I will miss.
Re: Download Warning Ruins Box Art For Final Fantasy X | X-2 HD Remaster
@Shane76 you’re just being Devils Advocate and can’t really disscredit what I’ve laid out to be actual, undeniable advantages for digital game ownership: The idea of swapping game cartridges out of your switch to be considered worthwhile exercise is laughable. I use a 256 gb memory card and haven’t had issues with space, you can always delete and redownload games that you don’t play anymore. And digital games are still better for the environment whether you care about it or not.
Re: Download Warning Ruins Box Art For Final Fantasy X | X-2 HD Remaster
@Patters being a casual gamer is all about convenience.
Advantages of digital games are:
1. Pre purchase software from the eShop, ready to play day one.
2. Carry your entire games library on your switch.
3. Swapping games without having to get up and sift through cases.
4. Won’t misplace games. (Ever open a case only to find an entirely different game? Or worse, no game?)
5. No extra space required to store the games on shelves or in boxes.
6. Better for the environment.
7. The thrill of modernizing your gaming hobby, because it’s 2019 and nothing is physical anymore.
Re: Download Warning Ruins Box Art For Final Fantasy X | X-2 HD Remaster
Lol that’s hideous! Go team digital!
Re: Video: Why You Should Be Pleased The Development Of Metroid Prime 4 Has Been Restarted
@Zach777 Metroid news is still buzzing everywhere, and everyone’s commenting on it. At least Alex is entertaining to watch 😁
Re: Video: Why You Should Be Pleased The Development Of Metroid Prime 4 Has Been Restarted
@OorWullie potentially. Funny to think that the next Zelda game is further developed then Metroid Prime 4, yet Metroid is all we can think about.
Re: Video: Why You Should Be Pleased The Development Of Metroid Prime 4 Has Been Restarted
@Lizuka First Person Adventure 😛
Re: Rumour: Metroid Prime Trilogy For Nintendo Switch Is Ready To Be Released
@Vriess What would be so difficult? The original 2 games weren’t even dual stick. They would control better now with the added camera control from the right control stick.
Sorry just re-read your comment, i totally expect the games to be adapted for regular controls.
Re: Rumour: Metroid Prime Trilogy For Nintendo Switch Is Ready To Be Released
@sandman89 the original 2 were in GameCube with a single joystick for control, just add dual stick movement / camera and there should be no problem. Anything else can be remedied with a bit of motion controls I’d assume.
Re: Rumour: Metroid Prime Trilogy For Nintendo Switch Is Ready To Be Released
They announced Wind Waker HD shortly after the Breath of the Wild delay was announced because they wanted something to tide over the fans. I would appreciate an announcement sooner then later.
Re: Talking Point: How Do You Feel About The Metroid Prime 4 Delay?
What if they pulled a dinosaur planet and Miyamoto convinced Retro to rebrand its current project as Metroid Prime 4? I’m half joking but it’s happened before. 😛
Re: Sorry North America, You’ll Also Have To Download Final Fantasy X-2 HD Remaster
Can’t stand physical games these days, inconvenient and eventually just becomes clutter, I have boxes of old games just collecting dust.
Re: The Switch's Home Menu Uses Less Than 200 KB Of Resources For Super-Fast Load Times
Brilliant 😁
Re: Nintendo Posts Job Listings For Switch User Interface Engineers
The switch interface is great, sophisticated and elegant.
Re: New Pokémon Let's Go Pikachu And Eevee Trailer Shows Mega Evolutions, Vermilion City And More
Absolutely stoked for this. Hopefully this will steer the series into a more inclusive direction and get more players involved. It was not fun trying to jump into the X/Y games after only playing the originals.
Re: Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Will Feature A Single-Player Classic Mode
*yaaaawn
Re: Square Enix Suggests We Can Expect More Games Like Octopath Traveler In The Future
What does similar titles mean? Lower budget RPGs? More games from that particular branch of the studio? More traditional(ish) RPGs? Sequels?
Re: Animal Crossing’s Isao Moro Has Left Nintendo
Even tho I dont care for any of his games; I wish him the best of luck!
Re: Octopath Traveler Shifted 90 Percent Of Its Initial Stock In Japan
@Anti-Matter lol that art style would be my nightmare game! I’ll take Octopath over that crap any day. 😂
Re: Video: Octopath Traveler Earns Digital Foundry’s Respect For Blending Old With New
@Cobalt in the spirit of basic; a SNES game would be like drawing a 60 frame animation with a big fat marker on a tiny sticky note.
Octopaths 30 frame animation is drawn with a fine tip pen on a full size note pad.
My point is that you wont even notice the smooth animations drawn with the marker because the canvas is too small for that amount of detail.
Pixels are even more restricted because they are arranged on a grid. When the SNES does run at 60 FPS most of those frames are rendered as duplicates anyway.
Re: Video: Octopath Traveler Earns Digital Foundry’s Respect For Blending Old With New
@Cobalt I understand completely. The code loops 60 times each second rather then 30, simple. What I don’t understand is how you claim that a SNES game, and I’m quoting you: runs “smoother” then Octopath Traveler? What do you mean by smoother because that’s not a technical term. I would never describe a SNES game as smooth.
Example A. 60 FPS:
Every loop: add 1 to x position
(In one second the example would move 60 pixels)
Example B. 30 FPS:
Every loop add 1 to x position
(In one second the example would move 30 pixels)
Ex A. Will move twice as fast as Ex B. UNLESS there are twice as many pixels (higher resolution) and you will get smooth movement.
Now SNES games run at a lower resolution then what Octopath is running. To compensate, Example A. Should only then add 0.5 to X position, however you can’t really display 0.5 of a pixel so what’s the point?
Re: Video: Octopath Traveler Earns Digital Foundry’s Respect For Blending Old With New
@Cobalt yeah, I realize 60 FPS would force the game to run twice as fast; but do you honestly think that would make a difference in a turn based battle system? It won’t. The only thing left to speculate on is graphics and my point was: resolution > frame rate in terms of smoothness. How smooth do you think a game 60 FPS game would run at a 32x32 resolution? Graphically, in this context, “smoothness” is restrained by pixel size. Must have been a slow 10 years ...
Re: Video: Octopath Traveler Earns Digital Foundry’s Respect For Blending Old With New
@Cobalt sorry but c’mon; SNES games run at a MAX resolution of around 512x448, even at 60 FPS or higher, such a small res means it will never run as “smooth” as Octopath. Think about it, at 512x448 the SNES pixels are so large the slightest movement is still a massive and choppy shift per frame. Sure some SNES games may run at 60 FPS but you’ll never actually see it because there aren’t enough pixels to actually render such subtle movements.
Re: Video: Octopath Traveler Earns Digital Foundry’s Respect For Blending Old With New
@Cobalt Realistically you wouldn’t notice a difference if it was 60 FPS; most of the sprite based animations are probably around 4-24 FPS and considering how slow the characters move across the frame mixed with the lower resolution it would just be a wasteful use of processing power. If there were more pixels to render maaaaybe you would notice silkier movement at 60 FPS.
Re: Unreal Engine Update “Significantly” Improves Nintendo Switch Development
Excellent news!
Re: Panic Button Says It Has "Tons" Of Switch Projects Coming Up
Imagine if square-Enix hired them to catch up the switch port of Dragon Quest XI
Re: Video: New Pokémon Let's Go Pikachu And Eevee Trailer Reveals Gorgeous Region Map And More
Excited! That map is really bringing me back 😁
Re: Random: This Switch User Interface Mock-Up Has Us Longing For More Features
Not exactly sure if it’s an improvement on design
Re: Nintendo Hasn't Revealed Its Full 2018 Lineup, Says Outgoing President Tatsumi Kimishima
Ill take Pikmin 4; it’s done right Miyamoto?
Re: Reggie Reveals Metroid Prime 4 Development Is "Proceeding Well"
Did he just elude to a big holiday push for the SNES classic? I wonder if that means we won’t see snes games on the Nintendo Switch Online service until they feel the SNES classic has run its course.
Re: Ubisoft CEO Believes Future Of Games Industry Is Streaming, With Potential To Reach 5 Billion Players In Ten Years
@NGamerCole I’m sure internet access / speed won’t be an issue in ten years
Re: Ubisoft CEO Believes Future Of Games Industry Is Streaming, With Potential To Reach 5 Billion Players In Ten Years
@Anti-Matter no change is worse
Re: Ubisoft CEO Believes Future Of Games Industry Is Streaming, With Potential To Reach 5 Billion Players In Ten Years
Why is everyone so opposed to this? Change is good and it only means growth for the industry. And yeah, in ten years it could totally happen, look at Capcom streaming resident evil; it’s already happening. That’s a long time, especially in the tech industry.
Re: Nintendo Says Switch User Playtime Is Split 50-50 Between Docked And Handheld
Almost always docked
Re: US Research Analyst Believes Gaming Could Become 100% Digital By 2022
Change is good. Can you imagine having to swap out a cartridge every time you used a different app on your phone?
Can’t come soon enough.
Re: Random: Miyamoto Greets Fans In Australia And New Zealand With Hilarious Aussie Accent
So weird, gotta love him.
Re: Reminder: The Mario Tennis Aces Pre-launch Online Tournament Begins Today
Cannot wait!!
Re: Pokémon Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee Launch Shipments Will Be Larger Than Any Switch Game To Date
The reality is the market for these casual Pokemon games is waaaaay larger then the core Pokemon games market. Is anyone really surprised? The game looks like a great compromise to me anyway, I wouldn’t be surprised if the next core game builds on the let’s go games just with generation 8 Pokemon.
Re: Talking Point: What Do You Make Of The Three Big Pokémon Games Coming To Nintendo Switch?
Umm if they’re saying Let’s Go is part of the main line series then how is it a spin off? I actually like the Let’s Go changes, the core series has gotten really stale anyway. I wouldn’t be totally surprised if Gen 8 actually caries over some of the new elements used in these games.
Re: Nintendo Announces Pokémon Let’s Go Pikachu! and Let’s Go Eevee! For Nintendo Switch
I love this! I only played up to silver before I lost interest in the series’s and it eventually became overly complicated. If this is how good their switch spin-off is can you imagine the core game coming out next year? I imagine they’d want to differentiate the art style from the more casual Lets Go! Series. Maybe we will get that realistic open world Pokemon game I’ve been hoping for! 😁
Re: Hands On: Prepare For the Fight of Your Life in Octopath Traveler
@Morgan19 yeah I think they over did it with the effects too, it’s all a bit messy looking.
Re: Review: Fox n Forests (Switch eShop)
I too was looking forward to this game but was sadly disappointed with the the controls, mechanics and especially the cringe worthy writing. However it is fun after you accept these flaws. I beat it in about 3 hours.
Re: Video: Feast Your Eyes On This New Trailer For Octopath Traveler
The look is slowly growing on me, i know the art is stylized but I think the lighting is too blown out and the depth of field is a bit aggressive, maybe there’ll be a graphics setting to turn it down. Less is more right?
Re: Reggie On The Future Of Nintendo Labo Regarding Third Parties
I still have a problem leaving a $399.00 system to rattle around in a cardboard box with a child. Not for me. Will be interesting to see what becomes of this.
Re: Nintendo Announces Labo, A Range Of Interactive DIY Toys For Switch
Well that was garbage ...
Re: Final Fantasy And More Could One Day Arrive On Switch As Square Enix Considers Future Ports
I’m interested to learn more about what “modernizing” means for their classic games. Ff IV for DS was good at the time, hopefully something in that direction but I doubt it. It would be a real shame if they decided to just port the mobile games. 😒