Do they really need Miyamoto for this? Not to disrespect, but i think his time has long past. Retro should be given the opportunity to create something original on their own. Give Metroid to another in-house developer.
Anyway, as a remake of a console game, people should expect to play it as one. Even if the save system isn't altered at all, it shouldn't really matter.
@hydeks Well, other than Metroid, F-Zero and Starfox, you’d be right. I do agree though - A new mature IP is required from them at this point (from Retro). Without that, i can't even begin to take that console seriously. Nintendo seem so set on just reproducing the same games over and over.
@enderboy221 Wow, that website is pure garbage. There's no credible source whatsoever... Plus, i'm sure the forecast was 9 mil (LOL), not 6.8.
Nice feature, well done NL. Here's my response to all:
Metroid Prime IV (Wii U) Surprisingly, i actually disagree. I believe the series has run its course. New IP (from Retro) or GTFO. Although, depending on the developer, i would want a new Metroid (just not interested prime again really). I put maybe.
Metroid Dread (3DS) I have no idea why this hasn't happened yet...
F-Zero AGX (3DS) That would be cool, i suppose. Would prefer a new game.
F-Zero UX (Wii U eShop) Meh, i don't do eShop.
Super Mario Galaxy HD Collection (Wii U eShop) HELL. NO! Mario rehashes (or just Mario in general) are among my LEAST wanted games ever atm. Give that IP a rest.
Kid Icarus: Fallen (Wii U) Could be great. The controls prevented me from enjoying the 3ds game, so i shelved it early.
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask 3D (3DS) Yeah, we all know this coming anyway. I've gotten bored of this series now tbh (didn't buy SW or ALBW yet), but i'll gladly take this since its the best 3d Zelda.
Mario & Luigi's Mansion (Wii U) *(see my response to Galaxy HD)
Mario Paint (Wii U eShop) Dunno. Mario's attachment would possibly put me off.
Animal Crossing: City Life (Wii U) Irrelevant series to me nowadays. What seriously would this game do that warrants a new entry?.... Please stop rehashing this same thing repeatedly.
SNES Remix (Wii U eShop) **(see my response to F-Zero UX)
Rosalina's Observatory (3DS eShop) ** I may not care, but sure. Make a case for this character, beyond just shoehorning her into everything for the sake of it. She is nothing more than 'Peach's twin' to me right now.
Star Fox: Battle for Corneria (Wii U eShop & 3DS eShop) ** This IP deserves more. 'Ambitious' and 'eShop title' can't be put in the same sentence.
Fire Emblem Anthology (3DS & Wii U) HELL. YES! Give me all that goodness on the 3ds please.
Paper Mario: Origami (Wii U eShop) * Butchered series. Do not want anymore.
Apart from a few of those, Advance Wars on the 3ds need to happen, aswell. Cheers!
@TheRealThanos "No fan of the GameCube & Wii then?"
There were games i loved on the Cube (Smash, RE4, Paper Mario, Prime series, Fire Emblem). It was actually the first system i bought that gen, and that controller was perfection. But unlike the 64, it wasn't so great for quality/fresh content overall. PS2's game selection beckoned me in the end.
I bought the Wii early on too, but i kinda regretted it because of the whole audience shift. Had less worthwhile games than the Cube imo.
@TheRealThanos As of now, all of Nintendo's issues has to do with their deep-seeded and stubborn management tendencies (i can't be bothered to go into detail). They never seem to learn from past mistakes - With each new console their situation gets worse.
@LDXD Dooming their home consoles to irrelevancy may as well be the same as giving up. Nintendo flailing on with the WiiU only bothers me because it means there will be less games coming to the 3ds.
@Tsusasi Why a troll? Nothing about this situation is unforeseen or inexplicable.
@LDXD It does interest me to see how well the WiiU performs and why. The system was set-up for failure, and it amuses me to see people thinking that was caused by anyone other than Nintendo.
I wouldn't really care since the character models are awful, regardless. But if the story has also been affected, that's a solid reason for me to ignore the game. Good job, Nintendo.
Are Nintendo publishing SMTIV? (or are we even gonna get an EU release, for that matter?) Crap like this could explain the delay.
@Tritonus If selling on brand alone is what they expected, then this truly shows how senile/arrogant Iwata and co has become over the years. Of that 100 mil userbase on Wii, only a tiny amount were fanboys attached to company.
@Tritonus They'd have been insane to believe that.
Here's your quote: “They chose Wind Waker because the GameCube had a small install base and they felt that Wii owners should get the pleasure of experiencing this "unknown" gem.”
Why it's BS:
The GC's install base was much higher than the WiiU can ever hope to accumulate.
Wii owners already had the chance to play that through backwards compatibility.
X/Y would be one of the worst games in the series for me, if it wasn't for the online functions. It's amazing how stale the layout, story and challenge has gotten since i played these games last.
If Mario 3D wasn't/isn't enough to impact hardware sales in any meaningful way (during this holidays), no game ever will. Why can't you fanboys accept this? There's no point in persisting with that stupid “WiiU install base is too low” excuse anymore. This was their biggest release! the one game Iwata pinned all his hopes on for a comeback.
The system is done for... It won't be worth it for anybody to continue making games on in the long run. I'll be expecting more than a few cancelled games in the coming year.
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Re: Monster Savings To Be Had On Nintendo UK's Online Store, But You'll Want To Be Quick
Congrats to those who got stuff. This kind of sale goes against everything Nintendo stands for.
I bet they're pissed, lol.
Re: Fresh 2013 UK Hardware Sales Figures Keep 3DS on Top, While Wii U Sells Less Than Vita
@AdanVC Iwata's busy:
Re: Nintendo Software Continues to Lose Momentum in UK Charts
Is Nintendo doomed in the UK?.......................... possibly. You could perhaps put that down to their overpriced software.
The WiiU is however, without doubt, doomed worldwide. Get used to it.
Re: Retro Could Work On Miyamoto-Led Project In The Future, Says Nintendo Producer Kensuke Tanabe
Do they really need Miyamoto for this? Not to disrespect, but i think his time has long past. Retro should be given the opportunity to create something original on their own. Give Metroid to another in-house developer.
Re: Feature: Nintendo Games We'd Love to See in 2014
@Sweet16 I don't think it would be so damaging.
Anyway, as a remake of a console game, people should expect to play it as one. Even if the save system isn't altered at all, it shouldn't really matter.
Re: Feature: Nintendo Games We'd Love to See in 2014
@hydeks Well, other than Metroid, F-Zero and Starfox, you’d be right. I do agree though - A new mature IP is required from them at this point (from Retro). Without that, i can't even begin to take that console seriously. Nintendo seem so set on just reproducing the same games over and over.
@enderboy221 Wow, that website is pure garbage. There's no credible source whatsoever... Plus, i'm sure the forecast was 9 mil (LOL), not 6.8.
Re: Review: Monster High: 13 Wishes (Wii U)
@SanderEvers The WiiU had plenty of shovelware titles during launch.
Re: A Third-Party "Secret Developer" Gives an Inside Story of Working on Wii U
@PokeTune Or stop making home consoles, because i seriously doubt that shake up will ever happen.
Re: Feature: Nintendo Games We'd Love to See in 2014
@Sweet16 Suspend/resume were a thing. Make the owl statue an inventory item or something.
Re: Feature: Nintendo Games We'd Love to See in 2014
Nice feature, well done NL. Here's my response to all:
Metroid Prime IV (Wii U)
Surprisingly, i actually disagree. I believe the series has run its course. New IP (from Retro) or GTFO. Although, depending on the developer, i would want a new Metroid (just not interested prime again really). I put maybe.
Metroid Dread (3DS)
I have no idea why this hasn't happened yet...
F-Zero AGX (3DS)
That would be cool, i suppose. Would prefer a new game.
F-Zero UX (Wii U eShop)
Meh, i don't do eShop.
Super Mario Galaxy HD Collection (Wii U eShop)
HELL. NO! Mario rehashes (or just Mario in general) are among my LEAST wanted games ever atm. Give that IP a rest.
Kid Icarus: Fallen (Wii U)
Could be great. The controls prevented me from enjoying the 3ds game, so i shelved it early.
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask 3D (3DS)
Yeah, we all know this coming anyway. I've gotten bored of this series now tbh (didn't buy SW or ALBW yet), but i'll gladly take this since its the best 3d Zelda.
Mario & Luigi's Mansion (Wii U)
*(see my response to Galaxy HD)
Mario Paint (Wii U eShop)
Dunno. Mario's attachment would possibly put me off.
Animal Crossing: City Life (Wii U)
Irrelevant series to me nowadays. What seriously would this game do that warrants a new entry?.... Please stop rehashing this same thing repeatedly.
SNES Remix (Wii U eShop)
**(see my response to F-Zero UX)
Rosalina's Observatory (3DS eShop)
**
I may not care, but sure. Make a case for this character, beyond just shoehorning her into everything for the sake of it. She is nothing more than 'Peach's twin' to me right now.
Star Fox: Battle for Corneria (Wii U eShop & 3DS eShop)
**
This IP deserves more. 'Ambitious' and 'eShop title' can't be put in the same sentence.
Fire Emblem Anthology (3DS & Wii U)
HELL. YES! Give me all that goodness on the 3ds please.
Paper Mario: Origami (Wii U eShop)
*
Butchered series. Do not want anymore.
Apart from a few of those, Advance Wars on the 3ds need to happen, aswell. Cheers!
Re: Weirdness: Chibi-Robo! Photo Finder Has a Virtual Butt Removed in North America
The localisation teams at Nintendo are in desperate need of a reality slap.
Re: MercurySteam's New Next-Gen Title Isn't Coming To Wii U
@TheRealThanos "No fan of the GameCube & Wii then?"
There were games i loved on the Cube (Smash, RE4, Paper Mario, Prime series, Fire Emblem). It was actually the first system i bought that gen, and that controller was perfection. But unlike the 64, it wasn't so great for quality/fresh content overall. PS2's game selection beckoned me in the end.
I bought the Wii early on too, but i kinda regretted it because of the whole audience shift. Had less worthwhile games than the Cube imo.
Re: MercurySteam's New Next-Gen Title Isn't Coming To Wii U
@TheRealThanos As of now, all of Nintendo's issues has to do with their deep-seeded and stubborn management tendencies (i can't be bothered to go into detail). They never seem to learn from past mistakes - With each new console their situation gets worse.
Re: MercurySteam's New Next-Gen Title Isn't Coming To Wii U
@LDXD Dooming their home consoles to irrelevancy may as well be the same as giving up. Nintendo flailing on with the WiiU only bothers me because it means there will be less games coming to the 3ds.
Re: MercurySteam's New Next-Gen Title Isn't Coming To Wii U
@Tsusasi Why a troll? Nothing about this situation is unforeseen or inexplicable.
@LDXD It does interest me to see how well the WiiU performs and why. The system was set-up for failure, and it amuses me to see people thinking that was caused by anyone other than Nintendo.
Re: Weirdness: Try Not To Squirm As This Doomed Miiverse Romance Turns Sour
I always expected a social network run by Nintendo would be disturbing, but this....
Nintendo should purge miiverse from existence.
Re: Review: Super Mario Bros. 3 (Wii U eShop / NES)
I can't believe how desperate some people get over games more than 20 yrs old.
Re: MercurySteam's New Next-Gen Title Isn't Coming To Wii U
No one gives a crap about the WiiU for good reason.
Re: Nintendo Left Online Out Of Super Mario 3D World To Deliver The "NES" Experience
Will they ever tire of using this same, poopoodoodoodoggiepooedoople excuse?
Please watch the profanity — TBD
Re: Nintendo Open To Applying Zelda: Link Between Worlds Approach To Other Franchises
I'm not a fan of the recycling of worlds/places unless it's a real sequel. Make entirely new games in those franchise instead of being lazy, please.
@donkeykong64
Re: Prolific Video Game Box Art Illustrator Greg Martin Passes Away
Awesome art.
Re: Video: Xbox One vs. Nintendo 64
Best Nintendo console. They've done nothing but decline since.
Re: Masahiro Sakurai Confirms Separate Super Smash Bros. Trophies for Wii U and 3DS
Any attempt to persuade me to buy both will be futile. Just ensure the 3DS ver is up to par, pls.
@belmont As @Darknyht explained - They are inherently evil and should be avoided at all cost. Think of the
children!OCD gamers!@TonyBoySP Good idea. They should remove all the Mii/puzzle stuff and have a forever updating character database instead.
Re: Western Version Of Bravely Default Features Costume Changes For Female Characters
@Spoony If this was a game genre young kiddies were interested in, you'd have a point.
Re: Feature: The Biggest 3DS Games of 2014
I only want Smash and MH4 for sure from these, i hope for some surprises soon....
I know i'd prefer the WiiU ver of Smash, but there are even less games of interest to me on that platform, so no.
Re: Western Version Of Bravely Default Features Costume Changes For Female Characters
I wouldn't really care since the character models are awful, regardless. But if the story has also been affected, that's a solid reason for me to ignore the game. Good job, Nintendo.
Are Nintendo publishing SMTIV? (or are we even gonna get an EU release, for that matter?) Crap like this could explain the delay.
Re: Video: This Dr. Luigi Trailer May Be The Perfect Remedy
@SahashraLA You're having a tantrum over some ancient NES games?
Wow.
Re: Talking Point: New Year Resolutions for Nintendo
All of these are due to their stone-age management and policies. Almost none will even be acknowledged, let alone fixed. History has taught us.
Re: Cliff Bleszinski Seems Pretty Pleased With Nintendo's Willingness To Put Fun First
“Nostalgia first, biatchez!”
That's why we all love Nintendo.
Re: Round Table: Let's Talk About Nintendo in 2013 - Wii U and Favourites of the Year
@Tritonus If selling on brand alone is what they expected, then this truly shows how senile/arrogant Iwata and co has become over the years. Of that 100 mil userbase on Wii, only a tiny amount were fanboys attached to company.
Re: Round Table: Let's Talk About Nintendo in 2013 - Wii U and Favourites of the Year
@Tritonus They'd have been insane to believe that.
Here's your quote: “They chose Wind Waker because the GameCube had a small install base and they felt that Wii owners should get the pleasure of experiencing this "unknown" gem.”
Why it's BS:
Re: Round Table: Let's Talk About Nintendo in 2013 - Wii U and Favourites of the Year
@Tritonus Um, i think you should re-read point 2... sense, it does not make.
Re: Zelda Unveiled as New Smash Bros. Challenger
The doll faces are off-putting. Staring blankly into random space isn't a good look.
Re: Feature: 12 Days of Christmas - Pokémon X & Y and the 2DS, Perfect Together
X/Y would be one of the worst games in the series for me, if it wasn't for the online functions. It's amazing how stale the layout, story and challenge has gotten since i played these games last.
Re: Nintendo Reiterates Confidence That the Wii U Can Compete
@DarkwingLz #85 But they're both Mario 'party games', appealing to mostly the same audience. I'll bet MK8 will hardly boost system sales.
Re: Nintendo Reiterates Confidence That the Wii U Can Compete
@Chris720 "If MK8 can't save it, nothing will."
Nah, this is more true for 3D World. MK7 is no where near old enough to incite the huge demand for a next entry. The series barely changes.
Once the December numbers roll out, you'll know where the WiiU stands.
Re: Nintendo Reiterates Confidence That the Wii U Can Compete
@AJ_Lethal @darkgamer001 I think a chimp could run Nintendo better atm.
Re: Nintendo Reiterates Confidence That the Wii U Can Compete
Too bad this contradicts Iwata. 'Nintendo sucks at competing' was the quote from him, wasn't it?
Re: Review: NES Remix (Wii U eShop)
"What was old is new again"
Nintendo's business plan, summed up.
Re: Review: NES Remix (Wii U eShop)
Sounds like junk if it's just NES mini-games...
Re: Dr. Luigi announced for Wii U eShop
Nice to see something so fresh and original from Nintendo.
Re: New Teaser Trailer For Yoshi's New Island Emerges During Today's Nintendo Direct
A snail-paced, fugly version of the original.
Do not want.
@mamp Not quite.
Re: Rosalina And Luma Work Their Magic On The Super Smash Bros. Roster
I have no idea why this character (Rosalina) exists/has a fanbase.
Is she Peach's long lost twin or something? I did play Galaxy but skipped the filler parts, sorry.
Re: NPD Results Deliver a 3DS Milestone And Modest Wii U Sales
If Mario 3D wasn't/isn't enough to impact hardware sales in any meaningful way (during this holidays), no game ever will. Why can't you fanboys accept this? There's no point in persisting with that stupid “WiiU install base is too low” excuse anymore. This was their biggest release! the one game Iwata pinned all his hopes on for a comeback.
The system is done for... It won't be worth it for anybody to continue making games on in the long run. I'll be expecting more than a few cancelled games in the coming year.
Re: Industry Analyst Predicts Disappointing Outcome For Wii U Lifetime Sales
@MAB LOL, where is this from?
Re: Talking Point: Miiverse Can Promote System Unity And Serve As A Powerful Wii U Advertisement
@unrandomsam "I won`t be using it until there is some real benefit in me getting a Nintendo ID."
Same here.
@mch “The Wii U deserves the attention of every 3ds owner.”
No.
Re: Rumour: Smash Bros. Heading for a Spring 2014 Release
Even if true, they'll find a way to delay it. I can assure you.
Re: Guide: Using Miiverse And The Nintendo Network ID On Your 3DS
@alex167 Tied to the hardware, which i'm convinced won't ever change for as long Iwata and co are still running things. The ID is worthless.
Re: Guide: Using Miiverse And The Nintendo Network ID On Your 3DS
Is creating an ID mandatory if you update?
Miiverse doesn't interest me in the slightest.
e: nvm, found the answer
Re: Super Mario 3D World Drops Down UK Charts in Second Week
@Stubborn_Monkey The only people who constantly repeat that line, are the hardcore Nintendo fanboys.