@danwarner It would also be hurtful to do what you suggest, while nobody is buying the system.
I think the best option is to kill off WiiU support and refocus on the 3DS. They need to re-plan their entire home console strategy, or otherwise remove themselves from that market.
@Yorumi Nintendo not including sufficient internal memory in the WiiU is about on the same level as not including a charger with 3DS XL, or including a crappy default battery for the Gamepad. All of this was done to cut costs to them, not the consumer.
Trying to argue that they're offering value is laughable.
I think we can safely say that nobody bought the 3DS/WiiU for eShop games. Stuff like Pushmo, NES remix, Dr luigi etc. are all better suited as time-waster mobile games.
The claim that games like Shantae/Shovel Knight will increase hardware sales.... is ridiculous, to say the least.
edit: Another thing. Why do people just assume that unified accounts will be implemented as an end result of the Network ID?
Iwata has a reason for tying purchases to the hardware they're bought on - it's all about exerting control over consumers (same as the region lock). There's NO point in criticizing this aspect if you still buy from eShop regardless. You're part of the problem.
@LDXD I'm sure the most loyal would gladly accept another 'Ambassador program' as an apology, then be ready to buy the next system day one, lol (like the dude above you).
@Yorumi "no I used his own definition against him"
Wrong. Read what i defined adult as, then read the list of games you came back with. Until you have any retort to comment #229, please stop mentioning me. Your arguments are pathetic.
@Yorumi Kids are the MAIN focus in those ads and you know it. Btw 'marketed more towards' adults doesn't mean you actually have to include them in the ads...
I doubt anything short of a massive re-branding, price drop (should cost less than a PS3, considering its offerings/capabilities.) and gamepad removal will do much to change the system's fortunes.
3D World and Wii Fit were supposed to be the best chance of reversing its failure, but that didn't work. MK8 will have the exact same effect.
@TheRealThanos I was talking about the results of the last poll, 'pick a favourite' (more people voting VC than new games). Should've explained myself better.
@element187 @XCWarrior I actually feel like you two would make perfect subordinates of Iwata. Your future goal of becoming completely irrelevant outside Japan, exactly matches his!
Sucks. I didn't want the game, but if this somehow happens to SMTIV aswell, then God damn......
I'll give them until the end of this month to announce something, before filling Nintendo's inbox with spam and rage.
One of the many reasons to despise Iwata. Anti-consumer bullpoodlepooie.
Agreed with @jrob23. This outlook is just plain stupid.
Of course lessons can be learned from failure, but this should be done without Iwata at the helm and before the situation gets to a point where there's no coming back from it. He's already proven himself as incapable.
@hydeks Agreed. Plus we know the answer to that already - Iwata stated they are unable to compete because they're “not good” at it (pathetic stance for any company CEO to take).
They really should just go portable only (and maybe third party on consoles).
@steamtrain Not eachother - People look at the 3DS and see that it provides mostly the same/better experience than the WiiU does, but for cheaper. There are so few reasons to own both.
@ricklongo Ah, the Wii/DS absolver... I wonder how many yrs of losses it would take for you to accept that he's become detrimental to the present/future success of your beloved company?
@Senario Awakening's balance was screwed from the get-go, just for the fact its map was free-roam and allows you to purchase/grind whenever. Other balance destroyers include: Dual-up, the ability to train random offspring, second seal.... all this crap shouldn’t exist in a FE game.
@LDXD #163 I always thought the climbing parts in Uncharted were a waste of time because of how staged it was. I don't like regenerating health either. TLOU's crafting, limited ammo/melee combat focus made it more satisfying to play than Uncharted, for me.
@LDXD I wouldn't call TLOU the exact same as Uncharted. Story and gameplay wise, it's an improvement with more depth overall.
@GN004Nadleeh It's funny, the lack of games on the N64 was pretty bad (i got a PS1 later too). But the fact that its best games were so damn good, almost made up for it, in my eyes. However, that was a time when Nintendo weren’t heavily focused on kids/family/casuals, and they had Rareware/less pathetic western support in general. Not like now.
@ShadowWolf598 Huh, the only reason you don't care about 3rd parties on WiiU is because you own a PS4 aswell? You fooled me!
Tbh man, Mario and Zelda bore me more often than not nowadays. Those series never change or somehow get easier/less ambitious with each release.
The lack of third party stuff as the ones @DarkCoolEdge mentioned, immediately kills the interest of most gamers, in reality. People with the intention of buying only one console (like me) would never choose the WiiU. 3DS should suffice for Nintendo games.
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Re: Satoru Iwata Admits The "Wii U Isn't In Good Shape" Ahead of Investor Briefing
@danwarner It would also be hurtful to do what you suggest, while nobody is buying the system.
I think the best option is to kill off WiiU support and refocus on the 3DS. They need to re-plan their entire home console strategy, or otherwise remove themselves from that market.
Re: Iwata And Miyamoto Both Take Pay Cuts In Response To Nintendo's Poor Financial Results
Who CARES if he does this again... Their salaries deserve to be based on performance anyhow. What did their last pay cut help achieve?
Iwata and his team clinging to their positions will only cause more damage to Nintendo, in the long run.
Re: Video: This Senran Kagura Burst Euro Trailer Will Put A Spring In Your Step
@ColdingLight
Re: Talking Point: Is There A Future For The Wii U Without The GamePad?
Would do nothing to change the WiiU's fate, at this point.
Re: Guest Blog: Shut up! Nothing is Wrong With The Nintendo Wii U!
@Caryslan #118 This post is perfect.
Re: Nintendo States There Are "No Plans" to Bring Mini-Games to Smart Devices
@SCAR392 Smartphone games, then. Happy now?
Re: Guest Blog: Shut up! Nothing is Wrong With The Nintendo Wii U!
@Yorumi Nintendo not including sufficient internal memory in the WiiU is about on the same level as not including a charger with 3DS XL, or including a crappy default battery for the Gamepad. All of this was done to cut costs to them, not the consumer.
Trying to argue that they're offering value is laughable.
Re: Nintendo States There Are "No Plans" to Bring Mini-Games to Smart Devices
I think we can safely say that nobody bought the 3DS/WiiU for eShop games. Stuff like Pushmo, NES remix, Dr luigi etc. are all better suited as time-waster mobile games.
Re: Nintendo States There Are "No Plans" to Bring Mini-Games to Smart Devices
@Peach64
You are right.
Re: Guest Blog: Shut up! Nothing is Wrong With The Nintendo Wii U!
The claim that games like Shantae/Shovel Knight will increase hardware sales.... is ridiculous, to say the least.
edit: Another thing. Why do people just assume that unified accounts will be implemented as an end result of the Network ID?
Iwata has a reason for tying purchases to the hardware they're bought on - it's all about exerting control over consumers (same as the region lock). There's NO point in criticizing this aspect if you still buy from eShop regardless. You're part of the problem.
Re: The Nikkei Reports Potential Nintendo Smartphone Strategy, to be Announced This Week
Nintendo VC going mobile.
It begins.
Re: Ubisoft Refuses to Comment on Watch_Dogs Wii U Cancellation Rumours
@LDXD I'm sure the most loyal would gladly accept another 'Ambassador program' as an apology, then be ready to buy the next system day one, lol (like the dude above you).
Re: Ubisoft Refuses to Comment on Watch_Dogs Wii U Cancellation Rumours
Time to discontinue the WiiU?
Nintendo's own, paltry line-up won't be enough to sustain the thing from here on out...
Re: Nintendo Was Dead To Us Very Quickly, States EA Source
@Yorumi "no I used his own definition against him"
Wrong. Read what i defined adult as, then read the list of games you came back with. Until you have any retort to comment #229, please stop mentioning me. Your arguments are pathetic.
Re: Mass Market Price And Mario Kart 8 Will Reverse The Wii U's Fortunes, Say UK Retailers
@Fazermint It's competing with the 360/PS3.
Re: Senran Kagura Burst Pre-Order Bonuses Announced For Europe
(jk, i'd prefer physical Code of Princess, tbh)
Re: Video: The First Thirty Minutes Of The Best 3DS Action Game You've Never Played
These 'Matters of Import' articles should be banned until Nintendo removes the region lock. (i'm being serious)
Re: Nintendo Was Dead To Us Very Quickly, States EA Source
@Yorumi I said 'marketed more towards adults' to begin with. None of your list are examples of this. (wait Wii Fit is, but that's not even a game!)
How can you be this dense?
Re: Nintendo Was Dead To Us Very Quickly, States EA Source
@Yorumi Kids are the MAIN focus in those ads and you know it. Btw 'marketed more towards' adults doesn't mean you actually have to include them in the ads...
Re: Nintendo Was Dead To Us Very Quickly, States EA Source
@Yorumi Sure they do... so where's that list of WiiU titles?
Re: Nintendo Was Dead To Us Very Quickly, States EA Source
@Yorumi I'll just say - marketed more towards adults, rather than kids.
Re: Video: Ace Attorney Collection Promotional Trailer Is Now Available As Hard Evidence
Would love to buy this. I think i missed one of the latter games....
It would only make sense to me as a download, but Nintendo have to fix their service before that can be seen as viable.
Re: Nintendo Was Dead To Us Very Quickly, States EA Source
It was dead to almost everyone very quickly, EA definitely weren't alone in thinking that.
In regards to them calling it a 'kids IP platform' - Are they even wrong? Somebody give me a list of every adult game that has sold well on the WiiU.
Re: Mass Market Price And Mario Kart 8 Will Reverse The Wii U's Fortunes, Say UK Retailers
I doubt anything short of a massive re-branding, price drop (should cost less than a PS3, considering its offerings/capabilities.) and gamepad removal will do much to change the system's fortunes.
3D World and Wii Fit were supposed to be the best chance of reversing its failure, but that didn't work. MK8 will have the exact same effect.
Re: Feature: Nintendo Games Our Readers Would Love to See in 2014
@TheRealThanos I was talking about the results of the last poll, 'pick a favourite' (more people voting VC than new games). Should've explained myself better.
Re: Feature: Nintendo Games Our Readers Would Love to See in 2014
@Frapp I'm referring to the final poll choices in regards to VC... if that wasn't obvious.
Re: Feature: Nintendo Games Our Readers Would Love to See in 2014
Are people THIS desperate to play old games on their failed console? It's only gonna stay dead that way, i hope you realize....
Gimme my new (3DS only) Advance Wars, damn it!
@Senario More like the originals, as in AW2 please. The RPG elements and overpowered features of Dual Strike were not good..
Re: Talking Point: The Wii U's 'Relevance' Is About Sales, Nintendo's Strategy Has Remained Consistent
I think everybody should watch this video and compare Reggie's words to the reality of today. Prepare yourselves for an irony overload.
Re: UK Retailer Argos Drops Wii U Premium to ÂŁ179.99
@element187 @XCWarrior I actually feel like you two would make perfect subordinates of Iwata. Your future goal of becoming completely irrelevant outside Japan, exactly matches his!
You guys should apply immediately.
Re: Shadow Of The Eternals Isn't Dead, But Don't Expect Big News Any Time Soon
“Shadow Of The Eternals isn't dead, it's just not alive”
Re: Rune Factory 4 European Release Has Been Cancelled
@sonicfan1373: Expect @JaxonH to come along defending it, in due time.
Re: Rune Factory 4 European Release Has Been Cancelled
Sucks. I didn't want the game, but if this somehow happens to SMTIV aswell, then God damn......
I'll give them until the end of this month to announce something, before filling Nintendo's inbox with spam and rage.
One of the many reasons to despise Iwata. Anti-consumer bullpoodlepooie.
No need for profanity here -Lz
Re: Weirdness: When Publicity Pictures Aren't Worth It - Aaron Paul With Wii Fit U
This needs a 'Please, kill me' caption.
Re: Nintendo President Satoru Iwata "Has Earned The Right To Fail", Says David Jaffe
@JaxonH I'll just point you towards @jrob23's comment. Nothing else needs to be said.
Re: Nintendo President Satoru Iwata "Has Earned The Right To Fail", Says David Jaffe
Agreed with @jrob23. This outlook is just plain stupid.
Of course lessons can be learned from failure, but this should be done without Iwata at the helm and before the situation gets to a point where there's no coming back from it. He's already proven himself as incapable.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Wii U Struggles Bring a Challenge, Not Doom
@Andrew_Cook I'm a troll and you're a fanboy cult member.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Wii U Struggles Bring a Challenge, Not Doom
@hydeks Agreed. Plus we know the answer to that already - Iwata stated they are unable to compete because they're “not good” at it (pathetic stance for any company CEO to take).
They really should just go portable only (and maybe third party on consoles).
@steamtrain Not eachother - People look at the 3DS and see that it provides mostly the same/better experience than the WiiU does, but for cheaper. There are so few reasons to own both.
@ricklongo Ah, the Wii/DS absolver... I wonder how many yrs of losses it would take for you to accept that he's become detrimental to the present/future success of your beloved company?
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Wii U Struggles Bring a Challenge, Not Doom
Nintendo will continue to suffer, for as long as this clown stays in power. Face facts.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Wii U Struggles Bring a Challenge, Not Doom
@steamtrain "Pros:... 2. The great success of 3DS has an effect on Wii U sales"
Cannibalising sales is seen as a benefit to you?....................
Re: Iwata Accepts Responsibility For Poor Financial Results, Ignores Calls To Resign
I'm pretty sure Iwata would sooner take this company to the grave before resigning. He seems to think of himself as integral to Nintendo, as a whole.
Re: Nintendo Confirms Major Reductions In Sales and Financial Projections
"Nintendo has now revised that target to an expected loss of 35 billion Yen, which converts to roughly £205 million / €246 million / $335 million"
Re: Senran Kagura Is Bursting Onto European Store Shelves In February
@ColdingLight That's bull... see SMT IV and Code of Princess.
Re: Talking Point: An Unplanned Flash Sale Looked Like Retail Download Genius from Nintendo
@ECMIM
"races to the bottom".."abject poison".."literal suicide"...
How do you expect to be taken seriously with this garbage? lol
Re: Talking Point: An Unplanned Flash Sale Looked Like Retail Download Genius from Nintendo
@Senario Awakening's balance was screwed from the get-go, just for the fact its map was free-roam and allows you to purchase/grind whenever. Other balance destroyers include: Dual-up, the ability to train random offspring, second seal.... all this crap shouldn’t exist in a FE game.
Re: Talking Point: An Unplanned Flash Sale Looked Like Retail Download Genius from Nintendo
@Rafie Fanboism gone wrong.
Re: Talking Point: An Unplanned Flash Sale Looked Like Retail Download Genius from Nintendo
To the 4% who voted 'definitely not'...
Re: Talking Point: Claims of Wii U Third-Party Development Troubles Shouldn't Be Dismissed Lightly
@LDXD #163 I always thought the climbing parts in Uncharted were a waste of time because of how staged it was. I don't like regenerating health either. TLOU's crafting, limited ammo/melee combat focus made it more satisfying to play than Uncharted, for me.
Re: Talking Point: Claims of Wii U Third-Party Development Troubles Shouldn't Be Dismissed Lightly
@LDXD I wouldn't call TLOU the exact same as Uncharted. Story and gameplay wise, it's an improvement with more depth overall.
@GN004Nadleeh It's funny, the lack of games on the N64 was pretty bad (i got a PS1 later too). But the fact that its best games were so damn good, almost made up for it, in my eyes. However, that was a time when Nintendo weren’t heavily focused on kids/family/casuals, and they had Rareware/less pathetic western support in general. Not like now.
Re: Talking Point: Claims of Wii U Third-Party Development Troubles Shouldn't Be Dismissed Lightly
@ShadowWolf598 Huh, the only reason you don't care about 3rd parties on WiiU is because you own a PS4 aswell? You fooled me!
Tbh man, Mario and Zelda bore me more often than not nowadays. Those series never change or somehow get easier/less ambitious with each release.
The lack of third party stuff as the ones @DarkCoolEdge mentioned, immediately kills the interest of most gamers, in reality. People with the intention of buying only one console (like me) would never choose the WiiU. 3DS should suffice for Nintendo games.
Re: Talking Point: Claims of Wii U Third-Party Development Troubles Shouldn't Be Dismissed Lightly
@ShadowWolf598 #25 Agreed - Mario and Zelda is all us fanboys will ever need. We're sorted