The worthless amount of storage capacity is certainly a factor for why people rejected the 8gb model (and possibly, even the system as a whole). People are aware of what the competition offers, and realise they'd be paying more for less.
Speaking as if games are the lone issue for why the console's doing so poorly, is just really foolish on Iwata's part. That's why i have no hope of him 'fixing' the situation, his ignorance has rendered himself incapable at this point.
@Dogpigfish “I love the Wii U. It's not competing with Apple's offerings. It's competing with low priced game software available on the 360/PS3 (and failing).”
Bizarre thing to say, so i fixed that sentence for you.
Nintendo doesn't include online in any of their own games (Nintendo land, NSMBU, Pikmin 3, Wonderful 101, SM3D World etc. etc...), so you can't really blame third parties for following suit on the console, lol.
Why is it that so many people are way more concerned with creepy, stupid fan-service like this (including those awful cutscenes from brawl being cut), than the actual mechanics and quality of the game itself?
This was funny as a joke, but i'm surprised to see people taking it seriously for some reason...
Brawl seems to have reeled in a lot of immature weirdos as fans.
So many illegible posts in the comments here, wow.... and particularly funny to see people spreading BS about ASDA being in trouble. You hilarious fanboys.
I've noticed this with pretty much all the instore supermarkets in the UK. The only stuff they stock from Nintendo's current platforms are the odd few Mario titles and Animal Crossing, seriously that's it.
@SCAR392 Nope, i meant what i said - the PS4 would replace it as the main system i use/have plugged in. The PS3 would be put in storage after that. Not gotten rid of, as you assume.
@SCAR392 No problem, because i probably won't ever sell my PS3. Whatever games don't crossover won't concern me. Plus, it's not like i intend to buy a PS4 at launch anyway, just sometime next year.
@hydeks No... i owned a Wii for ages, up until beating that game. There was nothing releasing after DKCR that i felt was worth leaving it plugged in for.
@Kirk What are you waiting for, man? just buy a PS3!
That's the only console i've had connected for years now. It easily serves as that all-in-one box you require (i unplugged my Wii after finishing DKCR, then gave it away). The Wii U would make an awful substitute for my PS3, for many reasons. I don't intend to buy one until MUCH later (like, 3/4 yrs), while the PS4 has a good chance of replacing my PS3 in 2014.
For Nintendo games, i think you'd manage fine with a 3DS alone.
“Story-driven”? lol, it was mostly just some random crap thrown together, used as a way to introduce characters. What story? After playing through once, you weren’t likely to ever do so again due to how long and boring it was. No loss.
I wonder how much stuff will be removed in the end. Hopefully he'll keep the best from those other smaller modes - Events, Targets, Trophies and Multi-man should stay... I wouldn't mind if the rest gets cut.
For some reason i never even owned GX. I may have only borrowed it from a friend, briefly. But i did have the 64's X.
Apart from the standard GP racing, time trails and such. I thought that other mode (Death Race?) was great, where wrecking your opponents was the main goal. Imo, that was something which should've been improved on in a sequel - fleshed out, given more options/objectives etc. It was good but kinda too basic as it was. I dunno if that mode existed in GX? probably not, cuz nobody mentions it...
Nintendo shouldn't just remake GX, i've gotten real bored of them doing that constantly... Make a new entry or don't bother, ffs. No old game (regardless of whether i've played it) will ever get me to buy this failing console.
@R_Champ lmao, i feel flattered. Why would you do this?
Btw, i'm not a Nintendo hater, i love many of their past games. I'm a hater of the terrible decisions being made by them lately. I find it ridiculous how they just sat back and watched the WiiU get to the position it is in now. Almost like its failure was planned.
Now, there's enough about that... I could be watching One Piece right now!
@Subie98 Man, you sound like whiny kid yourself. Getting pissed over a simple opinion?
@Ychung's point is valid – both systems have a VC with almost the same library. Yet, you'd have to pay twice for the same game for it to be playable across both platforms... That's some seriously greedy BS on Nintendo's part. You can't deny this.
Personally, i don't care about Nintendo's VC (the pricing and game selection mostly sucks, imo). But, even though i wouldn't buy it, i don't see the pricing for this particular game to be so bad. Seems fine considering how revelled Earthbound is, also the fact it had to be BEGGED for in the first place. I'm sure many of you would pay double!
@SCAR392 What the... now you're beginning to confuse me.
The currency you start with has the exact same monetary value as the currency you covert to. Makes no difference if you convert $ to € or € to $. You can't add or take away from that value afterwards for no apparent reason.
If you're talking about the price Nintendo has actually set for this game in our territories, which is in £ listed here. Put the £40 into a converter and see if you're paying more than us for it.
It's kinda sad that i'd remember the name of every pokemon up until gen 3 (stopped caring after that).... knew that was Octillery before clicking in here.
@Samurai_Goroh The current problem though - is that the WiiU has been failing spectacularly under Iwata's leadership, plus he's been losing the company hefty amounts of money since 2011. You may think Investors are stupid for thinking along the short-term constantly, but Iwata's decisions and refusal to learn from past mistakes is causing horrible damage to Nintendo. Damage that they now probably won't be able to recover from in the home console market.
Are people forgetting Iwata has a 100 billion yen operating income target to reach by next April? Of course they won't be buying out some niche studio.
I'm not bothered, even though the GC version is the one i owned and loved back then. You can understand why it's best to release the game on consoles with an actual userbase.
@jayclayx Damn straight! The lack of any of those (including Metroid) in sight, has convinced me not to buy one anytime soon. Maybe in 3/4 years... (the end of its cycle, basically).
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Re: Satoru Iwata Cites Poor Basic Wii U Sales To Rule Out Price Cut Benefits
@Caryslan Good post, everybody should read this.
The worthless amount of storage capacity is certainly a factor for why people rejected the 8gb model (and possibly, even the system as a whole). People are aware of what the competition offers, and realise they'd be paying more for less.
Speaking as if games are the lone issue for why the console's doing so poorly, is just really foolish on Iwata's part. That's why i have no hope of him 'fixing' the situation, his ignorance has rendered himself incapable at this point.
Re: Platinum Teases "Special Announcement" After Today's Wonderful 101 Direct
It was nothing. Time to move on.
Re: Masahiro Sakurai Outlines the Challenges of Smash Bros. Development
@sinalefa I think the name he's looking for already exists - “Fanboy”
Re: Masahiro Sakurai Outlines the Challenges of Smash Bros. Development
@Adam He's been sent to the naughty step.
Re: Senran Kagura Burst Confirmed For Physical And 3DS eShop Release In Europe
That's cool, might get it then since i don't use eShop. Its gameplay and plot intrigues me.
@accc Because Code of Princess.
Re: Pokémon X & Y "Mega Evolution" Details Fleshed Out, Distribution Event Confirmed
I bet mega stones will available to buy as DLC later. GF finally have the opportunity, they were biding their time.
Re: CoroCoro Magazine Reveals "Mega Evolution" and Three New Pokémon for X & Y
Looks like all you need is some hair growth formula to obtain these mega versions. A new item?
Re: Feature: The Big Nintendo Direct Round-Up - 7th August
Well that's a whole load of nothing, and still no mention of SMT4...
Glad i don't bother watching these things.
Re: Wii U Hardware Still Being Sold At A Loss
@Dogpigfish “I love the Wii U. It's not competing with Apple's offerings. It's competing with low priced game software available on the 360/PS3 (and failing).”
Bizarre thing to say, so i fixed that sentence for you.
Re: The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds Confirmed for November
I'll have to wait and see before buying this. Looks pretty tame here.
Re: Wii U Hardware Still Being Sold At A Loss
I was a "fence sitter" until E3... then all interest was gone. Ps4 will take priority now.
My 3ds alone will have to do, for Nintendo games. So instead of a price drop, i'd rather they discontinue and reallocate assets.
Re: Capcom: If You Want Games Like E.X. Troopers, You Need To Speak Up
Screw you. Find out whether there's demand by doing your own damn research. If you can't be bothered, so be it.
Re: Looks Like Batman: Arkham Origins Isn't Getting Online Play On Wii U
You guys should just ignore the other versions and pretend the game is actually a WiiU exclusive.
Then the lack of an online mode would be acceptable, right? Same as Nintendo's offerings.
Re: Looks Like Batman: Arkham Origins Isn't Getting Online Play On Wii U
Nintendo doesn't include online in any of their own games (Nintendo land, NSMBU, Pikmin 3, Wonderful 101, SM3D World etc. etc...), so you can't really blame third parties for following suit on the console, lol.
The system is a failure.
Re: Nintendo Files New Eternal Darkness Trademark
Interesting, but i find it hard to believe we'll see Gamecube games on VC in any of our lifetimes.
Re: Petition Started To Make Reggie A Playable Character In Upcoming Smash Bros. Title
Why is it that so many people are way more concerned with creepy, stupid fan-service like this (including those awful cutscenes from brawl being cut), than the actual mechanics and quality of the game itself?
This was funny as a joke, but i'm surprised to see people taking it seriously for some reason...
Brawl seems to have reeled in a lot of immature weirdos as fans.
Re: Devil Survivor 2 European Pre-Order Threshold and Details Outlined by Ghostlight
WAY too late for this.
Everybody has the game already thanks to glorious region-free.
Re: Asda Stores No Longer Stocking New Wii U Systems or Games
So many illegible posts in the comments here, wow.... and particularly funny to see people spreading BS about ASDA being in trouble. You hilarious fanboys.
Re: Asda Stores No Longer Stocking New Wii U Systems or Games
I've noticed this with pretty much all the instore supermarkets in the UK. The only stuff they stock from Nintendo's current platforms are the odd few Mario titles and Animal Crossing, seriously that's it.
Re: Rumour: Nintendo Planning a Wind Waker HD Hardware Bundle
@SCAR392 Nope, i meant what i said - the PS4 would replace it as the main system i use/have plugged in. The PS3 would be put in storage after that. Not gotten rid of, as you assume.
Re: Rumour: Nintendo Planning a Wind Waker HD Hardware Bundle
@SCAR392 No problem, because i probably won't ever sell my PS3. Whatever games don't crossover won't concern me. Plus, it's not like i intend to buy a PS4 at launch anyway, just sometime next year.
Re: Rumour: Nintendo Planning a Wind Waker HD Hardware Bundle
@hydeks No... i owned a Wii for ages, up until beating that game. There was nothing releasing after DKCR that i felt was worth leaving it plugged in for.
Re: Rumour: Nintendo Planning a Wind Waker HD Hardware Bundle
@Kirk What are you waiting for, man? just buy a PS3!
That's the only console i've had connected for years now. It easily serves as that all-in-one box you require (i unplugged my Wii after finishing DKCR, then gave it away). The Wii U would make an awful substitute for my PS3, for many reasons. I don't intend to buy one until MUCH later (like, 3/4 yrs), while the PS4 has a good chance of replacing my PS3 in 2014.
For Nintendo games, i think you'd manage fine with a 3DS alone.
Re: Masahiro Sakurai Rules Out Story Sequences For Super Smash Bros. on Wii U and 3DS
“Story-driven”? lol, it was mostly just some random crap thrown together, used as a way to introduce characters. What story? After playing through once, you weren’t likely to ever do so again due to how long and boring it was. No loss.
I wonder how much stuff will be removed in the end. Hopefully he'll keep the best from those other smaller modes - Events, Targets, Trophies and Multi-man should stay... I wouldn't mind if the rest gets cut.
Re: Talking Point: F-Zero GX HD Could Boost the Franchise onto Wii U
@BATRA Don't be ridiculous...
Mario Kart DS was the pinnacle of that series. Now they're just slow, randomized party games, more suited to only casual play. No skill required.
Re: Talking Point: F-Zero GX HD Could Boost the Franchise onto Wii U
For some reason i never even owned GX. I may have only borrowed it from a friend, briefly. But i did have the 64's X.
Apart from the standard GP racing, time trails and such. I thought that other mode (Death Race?) was great, where wrecking your opponents was the main goal. Imo, that was something which should've been improved on in a sequel - fleshed out, given more options/objectives etc. It was good but kinda too basic as it was. I dunno if that mode existed in GX? probably not, cuz nobody mentions it...
Nintendo shouldn't just remake GX, i've gotten real bored of them doing that constantly... Make a new entry or don't bother, ffs. No old game (regardless of whether i've played it) will ever get me to buy this failing console.
Re: Nintendo Comments On EarthBound's Inflated Pricing
@R_Champ
Re: Feature: Our Favourite Wii U and 3DS Smash Bros. Screens So Far
@Rafie Yes, but obviously not that exaggerated. His regular Melee or Brawl form would've sufficed.
Re: Nintendo Stock Hits Its Highest Point in Two Years
@R_Champ lmao, i feel flattered. Why would you do this?
Btw, i'm not a Nintendo hater, i love many of their past games. I'm a hater of the terrible decisions being made by them lately. I find it ridiculous how they just sat back and watched the WiiU get to the position it is in now. Almost like its failure was planned.
Now, there's enough about that... I could be watching One Piece right now!
Re: Nintendo Comments On EarthBound's Inflated Pricing
@Subie98 Man, you sound like whiny kid yourself. Getting pissed over a simple opinion?
@Ychung's point is valid – both systems have a VC with almost the same library. Yet, you'd have to pay twice for the same game for it to be playable across both platforms... That's some seriously greedy BS on Nintendo's part. You can't deny this.
Personally, i don't care about Nintendo's VC (the pricing and game selection mostly sucks, imo). But, even though i wouldn't buy it, i don't see the pricing for this particular game to be so bad. Seems fine considering how revelled Earthbound is, also the fact it had to be BEGGED for in the first place. I'm sure many of you would pay double!
Re: Feature: Our Favourite Wii U and 3DS Smash Bros. Screens So Far
Anybody else not like Bowser's change? Preferred how he had his own dark style in Smash before. He looks like a much easier target now.
Poll choice = Groin punch
Re: Pikmin 3 Listed As £39.99 On The Wii U eShop in The UK
@SCAR392 What the... now you're beginning to confuse me.
The currency you start with has the exact same monetary value as the currency you covert to. Makes no difference if you convert $ to € or € to $. You can't add or take away from that value afterwards for no apparent reason.
If you're talking about the price Nintendo has actually set for this game in our territories, which is in £ listed here. Put the £40 into a converter and see if you're paying more than us for it.
Re: Video: New Pokémon X & Y Footage Emerges, Proves How Exciting it Really Is
It's kinda sad that i'd remember the name of every pokemon up until gen 3 (stopped caring after that).... knew that was Octillery before clicking in here.
Re: Rumour: Nintendo Is Shaping Up To Acquire Troubled Atlus
@Samurai_Goroh The current problem though - is that the WiiU has been failing spectacularly under Iwata's leadership, plus he's been losing the company hefty amounts of money since 2011. You may think Investors are stupid for thinking along the short-term constantly, but Iwata's decisions and refusal to learn from past mistakes is causing horrible damage to Nintendo. Damage that they now probably won't be able to recover from in the home console market.
Re: Rumour: Nintendo Is Shaping Up To Acquire Troubled Atlus
@okamiki Investors? Ha, those same dudes who're pushing for Nintendo to make games for iOS/smartphones. Yeah, sure they would...
Re: Rumour: Nintendo Is Shaping Up To Acquire Troubled Atlus
@Samurai_Goroh He may not want to resign, but if a large number of stockholders call for it after he fails... what choice will he have?
If they planned to pay partially, as you say. Why would they win the bid above anybody else who're perhaps willing to pay upfront?
Re: Rumour: Nintendo Is Shaping Up To Acquire Troubled Atlus
@Samurai_Goroh The target was set and promised by Iwata himself, there's no chance of him backing down on it now.
Re: Pikmin 3 Listed As £39.99 On The Wii U eShop in The UK
@SCAR392 “€30 over here is $41, and €40 is $55. A digital OR physical copy is $60, which is €75”
Where the hell did you get that last number from? lol. In line with what you just said, $60 would be around €45.... use a currency converter.
Really weird how you seem to think you're paying higher prices in NA.
Re: Rumour: Nintendo Is Shaping Up To Acquire Troubled Atlus
Are people forgetting Iwata has a 100 billion yen operating income target to reach by next April? Of course they won't be buying out some niche studio.
Re: Strider Could Come To The Wii U eShop "If There's Demand For It"
@Linkstrikesback
Re: Soul Calibur II HD Online Not Announced For Wii U
Time to bask in nostalgia
Re: Masahiro Sakurai Did Consider Smash Bros. For Previous Handhelds
Multiplayer/system connectivity and tiny screens would've ruined it on anything earlier than the 3ds.
Re: Soul Calibur II HD Online Not Announced For Wii U
@ajcismo Would you really want to buy an overpriced VC version instead, with no online/HD? You may as well just buy a used GC copy.
Anyway, by the time Nintendo finally decides to put GC games on VC, you could be dead.
@P-Gamer-C #88 Right on cue!
Re: Soul Calibur II HD Online Not Announced For Wii U
I'm not bothered, even though the GC version is the one i owned and loved back then. You can understand why it's best to release the game on consoles with an actual userbase.
Ps3 version for me.
Re: Shigeru Miyamoto "Wanted to go to HD Sooner" With the Wii
"Yet the Wii's game library still surpassed the HD consoles easily"
Re: Atlus Parent Company Reportedly Preparing To Sell Operations
@Koto You are correct, sir.
But, if they were somehow forced to be acquired by one of the big three... We all know Sony would be the best candidate.
Re: Satoru Iwata Aims for "Critical Mass" of Wii U Owners to Shift Perceptions
@jayclayx Damn straight! The lack of any of those (including Metroid) in sight, has convinced me not to buy one anytime soon. Maybe in 3/4 years... (the end of its cycle, basically).
Re: Purchase Pikmin 3 And Receive A 30% eShop Discount On The Wonderful 101
What price do retail games on eshop go for, usually? £50? You could get the boxed copy for 30% less anyway.
This deal SUCKS for Europeans.
Re: New Phoenix Wright: Dual Destinies Trailers Reveal Mature Rating
Good news!
Re: Nintendo Reveals The 2013 Club Nintendo Elite Rewards
Grab dat soundtrack!