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How sure you sure about the earlier ones (you're clearly guessing on the later ones)? It was always my understanding that AGB stood for "Atlantis Game Boy" because it was internally called "Project Atlantis".

After update 10.0.0 I had an issue were I couldn't keep two joycons connected as a pair. It's fixed as of the update.

How well did Hey! Pikmin sell? If it didn't do well, that could be the reason it never saw the day of light. I can easily imagine them being on fence of whether or not there was an audience for Pikmin 4 and used Hey! Pikmin to test the demand. Regardless, it's safe to assume it was made for Wii U which had a low installed base in the first place, and if it heavily used the GamePad, it wouldn't be easy to just bump to Switch without a costly redesign, so I'm really not all that shocked that it never surfaced.

@GKO900 Probably due to the fact it was specifically said it WASN'T the same game.

I'm thinking this is likely another Starfox 2/Earthbound Beginnings scenario where, upon completion, it just wasn't deemed viable to release. Considering the time Miyamoto said it was nearing completion, it was presumably another Wii U title. With the Wii U never really taking off, it could of been determined it wasn't worth the marketing investment. And if it heavily relied on the use of the GamePad, they couldn't just port it to Switch, so it remains in limbo. It's very likely Nintendo has countless completed games that never saw the day of light, we just don't know it because they were never announced.

@mereel Strictly speaking, that's not actually true as there are separate charging stations you can purchase.

I'd normally say it should come as no surprise it's excluded, as it has untranslated Japanese text... and as a general rule, the only originally Japan-exclusive titles we get brought over are the ones that were already in English. That always made perfect sense to me since the local versions are specifically meant for the general audience of the region. And anyone willing to deal with the foreign text can always download the Japanese version. But THEN they broke that logic when Super Puyo Puyo 2 was included worldwide in the SNES lineup. Now that that precedent has been set, there's no good reason I see not to release Famicom Wars to the West as well. But with Nintendo being Nintendo who knows what they're thinking.

@aznable If by zingier, you mean inaccurate, then I agree.

@aznable You misspelled Game Boy Advance.

Call me a literalist, but "90s" means more than one year in the decade. SSB came out 1999, so anyone who has memories of it in that decade more than in that single year, is remembering it wrong.

@frabbit A few questions: 1.) How exactly does being part of a paid subscription qualify as being "free"? 2.) How exactly is an emulated version of a completely different game remotely comparible to LA's remake? 3.) Who says ALttP will even be in the lineup right away?

@Rubbercookie That's just Nintendo's way of simplifying things for the less technically inclined. Since proper formatting requires more technical knowledge, it's just safer to not to acknowledge compatibility. The more technically savvy types will quickly figure it out their own, and Nintendo's technical support won't be flooded with calls from clueless parents angry that it's so complicated.

@nintendork64 @Asaki Well your idea of revisions apparently differ from mine. Internal part differations are so common, that I can't justify counting silent revisions as true revisions... and counting an add-on like the Expansion Pak is an even bigger stretch.

@Matthew010 Well, there's actually still hope in that department. Don't forget that Nintendo also claimed the NES JoyCons were only for games in the NES app, that the 3DS didn't support SDHC cards, and that the Switch dock has three USB 2.0 ports (when the actual physical hardware contains two 2.0, and one 3.0 that is just currently limited to 2.0 useage by the current firmware). With that said, there's still a decent chance that the Lite hardware will still be capable of TV output. Especially if my understanding of how the Switch chipsets works is correct. Anyone more knowledgeable can feel free to correct me, but I'm under the impression that the output feature is an integrated part of the hardware and not something that could just be left out. If so, the Lite would still be capable of TV output unless Nintendo were to specifically block it via firmware (even so, a future update could enable it). I'm thinking, the system may very well still output if you have the capable connection hardware, but while in TV mode the built-in JoyCons won't work, forcing the use of separate wireless ones (which are expensive, and can't even be charged by the Lite). So it would be far less complicated on Nintendo's part to just market the thing as only being for handheld mode... and the more technically inclined users will quickly figure it out it's not an actual limitation-- just like with the 3DS and SDHC compatibility. But it's just a theory, so only time will tell for sure.

@liveswired To be fair, you're convieniently forgeting N64 and GameCube which didn't get revisions either (unless you count later GameCubes lacking the component port a revision). With that in mind, only about half Nintendo's consoles have had them.

I'm sorry, but every time I see an NL article that suggests an upcoming Pro model is still reasonable to expect, this site loses more and more credibility to me. Either the staff are ignorant on the matter, or they're just pandering for clicks.

Are people still actually expecting a Switch Pro? It seems pretty apparent to me those rumors were just misinterpretations of the new updated Switch.

@liveswired It already has two.

@wariosmith I heavily suspect Nintendo is purposely limiting streaming apps to one release per year in order to preserve Switch as a dedicated gaming machine. The first one (Hulu), launched in November 2017, YouTube then launched on the exact same date a year later. With that said, I wouldn't expect Prime Video until November at the earliest. And even then, there's still Netflix and other providers I'm sure are competing for that spot as well.

The "inevitable Pro"... I you don't think this new SKU is the closest thing we'll get to a 'Pro', you're probably kidding yourself.

Anyone expecting a 'Pro' in addition to this is likely wasting their time. This almost certainly was the third model that was rumored about. And it's pretty much exactly what I expected it to turn out to be when the rumors first started, except I was also expecting a storage increase. But considering the dropping costs of SD cards, may have figured it wasn't worth bothering expanding, plus if the standard version got that big of an upgrade, it would eat into sales of the Lite.

@Xelha You don't know that yet. They could have also quietly updated Joy-Con manufacting as well.

@Stocksy Care to cite your source of where Nintendo claimed no new model in the works? The closest thing I recall is them saying is no "Switch 2.0". Recognizing anything short of the next-gen successor would be logically still be a "1.X", I interepreted it (apparently correctly) as confirmation of a new model indeed being in the works and the comment was doublespeak meant to hide an official confirmation. I can't entirely blame less observant people for falling for it, but Nintendo has a very long history of using such language, so it was predictible. Just because you interpret something some way doesn't make it fact.

@cleveland124 Well, my Nintendo branded Joy-Cons don't lock-in anymore either, besides Hori is high-quality and offically licensed. If Nintendo made one the only signifcant difference would be the price.

The information doesn't seem to be written particularly clearly-- It appeared to be saying the "New" version had non-detatchable Joy-Cons at one point. But rest appeared to be indicating it was just manufacturing updates of the current/main version of the system. When the first rumors of a "Pro" version came out I assumed that's what it would likely just turn out to be. It probably won't even be a different SKU, just increased built-in memory and better battery life for newly-produced units.

@MarioFan02 T'was only a dream? Hori already makes one and there are also countless other available options. The standard left Joy-Con is removable and easily substitutable. Seriously, if Nintendo started making one, what would it solve besides giving you an even more pricier alternative to Hori's offering? This whole "issue" doesn't even really exist. It's just a myth widely spread by the fact that it's so easy to make non-thought-out complaints on the Internet. The reality is, not only is there no practical reason for Nintendo to make one, and no one is truly bothered by the fact that they don't.

@Emperor-Palpsy When the request is completely impractical and unreasonable, the term "stubbornness" no longer applies.

@Heavyarms55 We'll still have to wait and see if that actually turns out to be literally true. Nintendo has a history of saying their products can "only" be used one way, when in reality it's only OPTIMIZED to be used that way and other ways still work. Like when they said the 3DS didn't support SDHC cards or that the NES Joy-Cons were only for playing the Switch Online NES games. That seems to be their way of simplifying things for their target audience. Going by my understanding of how the hardware works, that capability is an integrated part of the hardware that they'd have to go out their way block. I heavily suspect as long as you have a proper USB-C to HDMI converter with an attached power supply, you'll still be able to get it to output to a TV, but you might not be able to use the built-in controls.

I'm absolutely baffled as to why they chose to reuse the 3D-shaped +/- buttons alongside a D-pad-- I assumed they'd instead use round ones with the +/- molded-in them. Having two buttons with the same shape seems like this will needlessly cause confusion with in-game instructions.

I'm also baffled as to why there doesn't appear to be a stand. Since it's still compatible with separate wireless controllers, there seems like no real reason not to stilk have one.

@rjejr I suggest you start looking closer at the product packages you buy. It's in fact extremely common for art on a package to differ from the product. Designs often go through revisions and the package designs are often based on early prototypes. Besides, the image on the box isn't even an actual photo, it's obviously just a concept render that could never possibly be the final product because it lacks holes for the speakers.

@Cotillion You're assuming those rumors are factual, but it's actually still very possible it indeed will have detachable ones. Still, I'm thinking this is just a mockup using the current Switch as its model.

@BlueBlur101 I think Pek727 might have just meant that complaint in comparison to the first game on Wii U, which of course, could offer both at once due to GamePad screen.

@rjejr In fairness, they're actually quite good at avoiding directly lying. What they do instead is use extemely ambiguous language. In the rare instances that they say something clear and direct, it ought to be believed.

@harouhiko The most consistent parts of the rumors have been the compact size and built-in Joy-Cons. There hasn't been too much word on it completely lacking TV connection aside from some light speculation by a couple analysts, and frankly I don't see that being the case. It may likely require a separate purchase of a mini doc, but I definitely think it's more probable to expect it to still retain that capability.

I'm still not sold on the artstyle for this game. I'd love it for an EarthBound remake, but it just doesn't feel like it's a good fit for Link's Awakening.

As convincing as it appeared at first, the moment I saw a large enough version of the image to make out the + and - buttons, I knew it was a mockup. No system with a D-pad would have a 3D shaped + button the way the standard Joy-Cons do, as they'd get too easily confused for in-game instructions. Any genuine version should be circular with the "+" printed on it, like on the Pro Controller.

@dazzleshell You're right about the docking feature-- there's no way they wouldn leave the ability out entirely-- they'd at least off a mini-one sold separately. But if the idea is to provide an a cheaper entry option, built-in Joy Cons do make sense, especially since it would provide the opportunity do include a D-pad. Remember, there's no reason a Switch-Mini wouldn't still connect wirelessly woth separate standard Joy Cons, so no features would be permanently lost, they'd just require separate purchases.

@BacklogBlues Also, even looking at the GBC as already being a revision like the New 3DS, the New 3DS still got a revision (New 2DS XL). GBC is in its own boat.

@BacklogBlues I think you're confused. There was a Game Boy Light in Japan, but it was the standard monochrome version. There was no lit revision of the GBC.

@BacklogBlues If you really want to get technical, they never revised GBC. But your overall point is definitely valid.

@Gurtelytis Knowing Nintendo's history with post E3 announcements, I'd say chances are extremely high... at least for the Switch models. I wouldn't bet much money on 3DS announcements considering that a Switch Lite would be a clear indication they've put the final nail in the 3DS's coffin. But never say never.

@johnvboy I've observed Nintendo reps always use very literal and pre-thought-out wording to evade giving straight answers. What exactly did the 3DS XL "update"? Nothing-- it was a parallel model that offered an alternative sized screen. New 3DS was the update which didn't come for couple years later. I also remember maybe a like a year ago Reggie (when he was still around) specifically made a point of saying in an interview that Nintendo had no current plans for a "Switch 2.0". And most outlets just reported it as he if had ruled out any new models in development, failing to pick up on the fact that logically, a hardware revision would be a Switch 1.X. What he actual said in literal terms, was they didn't have Switch's successor in development, which of course it wouldn't be as Switch had only been released the year before. He was clearly playing word games, so I interpreted it as meaning a hardware revision was indeed in the works. I also picked up very early on that a Virtual Console wasn't coming to Switch (at the time it was still conventional thinking that it would be) when I noticed a rep answering a question about it while specifically avoiding the term "Virtual Console" instead saying "classic games". Nintendo is pretty easy to decode if you know what you're looking for.

It certainly makes sense considering how long BotW was in development. Naturally, they'd want to be able to reuse assets. But I can't help but be a little disappointed we appearently won't be getting a new Zelda built from the ground up for the Switch hardware (don't forget, BotW was designed for Wii U).

@Zuhan If a Switch Mini does happen, I could easily see Joy Con sets getting a price drop to coincide with the launch (along with a special bundle including a grip). Besides, Nintendo does stuff like this all the time-- they'll just print on the box something like "games requiring TV/table top mode require Joy Cons sold separately". Don't forget this smaller system could easily be $80 to $100 cheaper than the standard model to begin with.

@Zuhan What you're overlooking is, having controls built-in doesn't stop separate Joy Cons from also being able to connect. With that said, no features would be lost. It would also finally give them the opportunity to include a D-pad, which the "Switching" nature of the standard Joy Cons made too impractical.

There's no way they'd make a version without a prop-stand like this (just because it would have Joy Cons built-in doesn't mean separate standard Joy Cons couldn't connect making it worthwhile). And presence of the stand would rule out vents being located at the bottom. Other than that, I approve of the rest of the design.

Possible ideas:
Marvel and Nintendo Kart Racing
Marvel and Nintendo Go to the Olympic Games
Marvel Super Heroes Meet Professor Layton
Marvel GO
The Legend of Gamora: Infinity Gem of Time
Captain America: Treasure Tracker

Nintendo would never add Marvel characters to Ultimate, but I could picture a remote chance of them partnering up for a completely original Marvel vs. Nintendo title... but again, very remote chance and if it did happen they'd almost certainly keep it separate from the Smash Bros. brand.

I can easily seeing a Switch Mini happening, but I'm quite skeptical about this "upgraded" model. I can't help but suspect it will simply be that newer systems will now feature 64 or 128GB of internal memory.

And to think, for the last couple days I thought I skills were really improving...