@Chrono_Cross What the hell are you talking about?
"The metaphor implies that the creators showed little care for the original software, as if the new compilation or version had been indiscriminately created/ported with a shovel, without any care shown for the condition of the software on the newly created product"
Are you serious? Do me a favor and climb out of my tushie, cause I'm sick of your stupid assumption jumping posts.
When did I ever say anything like "Half-Life and FFVII is shovelware lol"? WHEN!?
COD constitutes shovelware, because each new entry is quickly made (like I said, not when they have to update the engine for consoles and such). Capcom makes quick ports, THOSE ARE SHOVELWARE.
I never said Half-Life is shovelware, I never said anything like that. You should honestly stop putting words in my mouth and close yours.
@TheKingOfTown A rating doesn't necessarily indicate shovelware.
Spirit Hunters got a 3/10 but was in development for over 1.5 years. Not shovelware. Duke Nukem Forever took over a decade to develop, and sucked. DEFINITELY not shovelware.
New COD games are of the same quality, and are debatably shovelware since they're the same engine typically, with only a few new maps that fans could make and a short, short campaign. Probably took very little to make (although whenever the engine is updated.that takes more.) EA, Activision and Capcom are all incredibly guilty of making shovelware. I'd argue the same for Nicalis in terms of indies. Still, all these games are of consistent quality.
@SpecialHam Celebrities get special treatment all the time. Chris Brown gets off ofassault charges, Lindsay Lohan and Paris Hilton have escaped crack charges how many times now? And Scarlett Johansson threw the guy who exposed her breasts in jail for LONGER THEN MURDER AND RAPE CASES.
Now then, I challenge you all, tell me you never downloaded an illegal song. If you can honestly say that good (though iTunes also sucks and buying from anywhere but the label is spiked prices)
@bahooney While that is true, vinyl is costly, bully, and any specks of dust result in snaps and oops. Compared to a FLAC or 24/96 WAV with high-quality headphones, the difference is negligible enough to basically rack up pretentious people and DJs alone (with more then a few exceptions)
Because I take back what I said. This game should be a 1 for being a glitched-out piece of crap.
Level 1-34 is all the same. If you got to level 35, that boss is passable with practice. Level 36-43 unfairly fast but whatever. Level 44 and past IT'S BROKEN AS F***. The glitches hurt your eyes and your score. Black boxes (passable before) are everywhere, half the snowballs disappear out of nowhere, you lose lives completely unfairly (because they get launched while in aiming mode).
I can get a pre-owned Wii for like, $50-65 on eBay .
What kind of sales were they expecting? By American expectations that would be horrendous for an obscure Japanese retail game but I don't know what gaming is like in Canada.
Yes, it's true that many people lack a PS3 or Xbox 360. However, upon seeing the other package, they may want to avoid in hopes of a future port of said trilogy.
Or maybe even avoid it simply due to the complete lack of fair treatment. Now, I'm not saying EA has any sort of obligation, but when people see what they get, and then compare that to the deals others are getting, they'll be pretty pissed. That's why people weren't happy with a lack of sales of the Wii/DSi shop, since I have no good examples here.
@Bankai You can't be serious. You're a consumer too.
Wii U has Mass Effect 3, unsupported for $60 Other consoles have each game for MUCH less, and then a trilogy with all DLC for the same as a single game from the trilogy with practically no DLC.
Let's say you're a schoolteacher. Brand new kid, you give him a test 3 times as difficult as every other student, and no calculator, no ruler, nothing. You aid the other kids but not that kid.
Who's at fault? You could say the student, but I wouldn't.
You're being too nice to these retro games Chicken.
I'd give it one point lower. It's fun for short bursts, but pretty bad value and I personally thought the graphics were pretty ugly considering the time.
That's sad. You, Me and the Cubes was one of the good WiiWare games. Gonna check out his other works.
A notice from an Asian person: If eating habits in Asia (AKA high sodium) stays the same, we're going to have to see a lot of this. That's not necessarily indicating this is one of those cases though.
I seriously don't understand you at times. This isn't bashing, it's just me being confused at how you bash on games like Jett Rocket and Gunman Clive (some of the best budget titles around) and use the most generic titles possible as comparison (Mutant Mudds and SM3DL). And now you call Rayman Origins, one of the best platformers of the last generation, a glorified flash game when the 2D platformers you listed before are far inferior?
@BearFlower What in the hell? Do you think Ubisoft is a Nintendo second-party or something. This delay HURTS Nintendo, what the flower are you done with them over?
@Bankai I said that before, and you acted as if that was invalid.
But regardless of past debates, I agree. This doesn't indicate platform health, because as a whole 3DSWare is still barren as hell, which is a benefit for some devs.
I love LBP and The Walking Dead, but Little Monsters and Soccer!? Who the hell made this list? They need a good smack not just for Nintendo (and Kid Icarus), but also for a lack of Gravity Rush.
@GN0LAUM That's where you're wrong. I love the mega Man series (or at least the first 3 games). I'm just trying to offer a perspective.
Game length is a major factor, how is it not/ Even though it's an NES game, it's quite short by modern standards.
And yes, guess-and-check is a problem in any game even when it's enjoyable. Guessing shouldn't be a factor especially in cases like this when you can be completely screwed by it.
That, and as I said before, the level design isn't always the best. Mega Man 3 had much better level design IMO.
10/10? I disagree with that. The game isn't lengthy, it requires a bit of guessing without any help (since certain stages you have to know the tricks and powers needed), and at times the level design could use polish. I realize the first 2 are part of the style of Mega Man in general but still, don't think guess-and-check gameplay should be rewarded.
That's not me hating, as I still love this game (and Mega Man 3 moreso), it's just trying to provide a somewhat objective point of view. The music is still top-notch I'll give you that.
Also, just pointing out you didn't talk about Dr. Wily's Castle.
@DarkCoolEdge Circle Pad Pro would suck. If you have one, move with the face buttons and aim with the circle pad. You'll see why. They should've supported it anyways though.
Did you like games like Moon, Dementium or Metroid Prime Hunters?
@Chrono_Cross Well, I'll have to disagree with that. I actually liked NightSky the least, but that I felt was a much more artistic game.
Also, over Cave Story, what's a better example of Metroidvania-style platforming in your opinion? Even with the linearity, it's better then, say, Shantae: Risky's Revenge (the other highly revered indie example I can think of) and has far less flaws.
But yeah, there's no reason this should get on and Binding of Isaac shouldn't, other then stuff like blood and fecal matter that's already in other games.
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Re: Review: Wheel of Fortune (Wii U)
@Chrono_Cross What the hell are you talking about?
"The metaphor implies that the creators showed little care for the original software, as if the new compilation or version had been indiscriminately created/ported with a shovel, without any care shown for the condition of the software on the newly created product"
Are you serious? Do me a favor and climb out of my tushie, cause I'm sick of your stupid assumption jumping posts.
When did I ever say anything like "Half-Life and FFVII is shovelware lol"? WHEN!?
COD constitutes shovelware, because each new entry is quickly made (like I said, not when they have to update the engine for consoles and such). Capcom makes quick ports, THOSE ARE SHOVELWARE.
I never said Half-Life is shovelware, I never said anything like that. You should honestly stop putting words in my mouth and close yours.
Re: Review: Wheel of Fortune (Wii U)
@TheKingOfTown A rating doesn't necessarily indicate shovelware.
Spirit Hunters got a 3/10 but was in development for over 1.5 years. Not shovelware.
Duke Nukem Forever took over a decade to develop, and sucked. DEFINITELY not shovelware.
New COD games are of the same quality, and are debatably shovelware since they're the same engine typically, with only a few new maps that fans could make and a short, short campaign. Probably took very little to make (although whenever the engine is updated.that takes more.)
EA, Activision and Capcom are all incredibly guilty of making shovelware. I'd argue the same for Nicalis in terms of indies. Still, all these games are of consistent quality.
Re: Review: Splash or Crash (3DS eShop)
@Void The scream of "NNOOO!" from EscapeVektor popped into my head right when I read that.
Re: Nintendo Gives US Government Recommendations on Tackling Piracy Abroad
@SpecialHam Celebrities get special treatment all the time. Chris Brown gets off ofassault charges, Lindsay Lohan and Paris Hilton have escaped crack charges how many times now? And Scarlett Johansson threw the guy who exposed her breasts in jail for LONGER THEN MURDER AND RAPE CASES.
Now then, I challenge you all, tell me you never downloaded an illegal song. If you can honestly say that good (though iTunes also sucks and buying from anywhere but the label is spiked prices)
Re: Amazon UK Lists Wii Mini For £79.99
@bahooney While that is true, vinyl is costly, bully, and any specks of dust result in snaps and oops. Compared to a FLAC or 24/96 WAV with high-quality headphones, the difference is negligible enough to basically rack up pretentious people and DJs alone (with more then a few exceptions)
Re: Vblank Entertainment: Nintendo is "Great To Work With"
@justin6d Only in a special Wii mode, which basically acts as a higher-resolution emulator.
Why couldn't they do the same they did with the 3DS?
Re: Wii Mini Shifts 35,700 Units in Canada
@mch Does that include North Korea?
Re: Review: Cake Ninja XMAS (DSiWare)
@Reviewer How far did you get in this game?
Because I take back what I said. This game should be a 1 for being a glitched-out piece of crap.
Level 1-34 is all the same.
If you got to level 35, that boss is passable with practice.
Level 36-43 unfairly fast but whatever.
Level 44 and past IT'S BROKEN AS F***. The glitches hurt your eyes and your score. Black boxes (passable before) are everywhere, half the snowballs disappear out of nowhere, you lose lives completely unfairly (because they get launched while in aiming mode).
If you'd like, I can record a video of this mess.
Re: Vblank Entertainment: Nintendo is "Great To Work With"
With recent praise, I can't wait to see how indie-friendly the PS4 is. Gotta stay ahead.
Re: Wii Mini Shifts 35,700 Units in Canada
I can get a pre-owned Wii for like, $50-65 on eBay .
What kind of sales were they expecting? By American expectations that would be horrendous for an obscure Japanese retail game but I don't know what gaming is like in Canada.
Re: Bioware: "No Plans" To Bring New Mass Effect 3 DLC To Wii U
@Bankai 2nd comment
Yes, it's true that many people lack a PS3 or Xbox 360. However, upon seeing the other package, they may want to avoid in hopes of a future port of said trilogy.
Or maybe even avoid it simply due to the complete lack of fair treatment. Now, I'm not saying EA has any sort of obligation, but when people see what they get, and then compare that to the deals others are getting, they'll be pretty pissed. That's why people weren't happy with a lack of sales of the Wii/DSi shop, since I have no good examples here.
Re: Bioware: "No Plans" To Bring New Mass Effect 3 DLC To Wii U
@Bankai You can't be serious. You're a consumer too.
Wii U has Mass Effect 3, unsupported for $60
Other consoles have each game for MUCH less, and then a trilogy with all DLC for the same as a single game from the trilogy with practically no DLC.
Let's say you're a schoolteacher. Brand new kid, you give him a test 3 times as difficult as every other student, and no calculator, no ruler, nothing. You aid the other kids but not that kid.
Who's at fault? You could say the student, but I wouldn't.
Re: Review: Yoshi (3DS eShop / NES)
You're being too nice to these retro games Chicken.
I'd give it one point lower. It's fun for short bursts, but pretty bad value and I personally thought the graphics were pretty ugly considering the time.
Re: Nintendo - "Innovation is Important" for the 2D Mario Series
Now kids, let's practice etiquette!
Read the title and say it with me! "What. The. Hell."
Re: Yes, Retro City Rampage Has A Release Date
@Pichuka97 Last Flight busts out laughing
Re: Nintendo Download: 21st February 2013 (North America)
@Gen0neD Same, couldn't find it.
Re: Nintendo Download: 21st February 2013 (North America)
You didn't mention the Crashmo discount? That's what I'm getting besides freebies.
Re: You, Me, and the Cubes Designer Dies Ages 42
That's sad. You, Me and the Cubes was one of the good WiiWare games. Gonna check out his other works.
A notice from an Asian person: If eating habits in Asia (AKA high sodium) stays the same, we're going to have to see a lot of this. That's not necessarily indicating this is one of those cases though.
Re: Filtering Miiverse Content Is Easier With A New Update
@XXIV We were promised a Flipnote sequel were we not
Re: Rayman Legends Challenge Mode Coming Exclusively To Wii U This April
@MagicEmperor Meh, I'm not sure if he's a troll half the time, I have enough faith in half his posts to believe he's not.
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Re: Coaster Creator 3D Ride Starts on 28th February in North America
This actually looks pretty fresh, but I'd need a few reviews first.
Re: Rayman Legends Challenge Mode Coming Exclusively To Wii U This April
@WaveBoy Glorified Flash games?
I seriously don't understand you at times. This isn't bashing, it's just me being confused at how you bash on games like Jett Rocket and Gunman Clive (some of the best budget titles around) and use the most generic titles possible as comparison (Mutant Mudds and SM3DL). And now you call Rayman Origins, one of the best platformers of the last generation, a glorified flash game when the 2D platformers you listed before are far inferior?
Re: 3DS eShop Version Of Gunman Clive Outsells Android Edition
Racers and RPGs would work just fine on iOS/Android. Motion Controls and touchscreen.
Fast paced games don't work as well, and I'm not a big fan of most smartphone rhythm games (exception ReRave) due to the irritating accuracy.
Re: Rayman Legends Boss and Dev Team Protest Wii U Release Delay
@BearFlower What in the hell? Do you think Ubisoft is a Nintendo second-party or something. This delay HURTS Nintendo, what the flower are you done with them over?
Re: 3DS eShop Version Of Gunman Clive Outsells Android Edition
@Bankai I said that before, and you acted as if that was invalid.
But regardless of past debates, I agree. This doesn't indicate platform health, because as a whole 3DSWare is still barren as hell, which is a benefit for some devs.
Re: Review: Ah! Heaven (DSiWare)
Bob Dylan references = awesome.
Re: Goodbye Galaxy Games Reveals More Info on Color Commando
@HugoSmits You don't need 3D though. Fractured Soul and Fluidity don't have 3D.
In fact from what I've heard, you open up a lot of processing power without 3D.
Re: 3DS eShop Sale is Underway in North America and Europe
Guild01 games, Fluidity or lazy Nicalis Ports would've been nice instead of Mutant Mudds, but im satisfied since I'm getting 3 games.
Re: Goodbye Galaxy Games Reveals More Info on Color Commando
@HugoSmits You have a 3DS kit don't you? How much more difficult is 3DS development compared to DSiWare or even homebrew?
Re: Goodbye Galaxy Games Reveals More Info on Color Commando
This was a quick, kill time project. He has a 3DSWare kit.
Re: Goodbye Galaxy Games Reveals More Info on Color Commando
Awesome. Must get.
But just saying, the only new info is release window
Re: Dillon's Rolling Western: The Last Ranger Arriving In North America This April
I'll be damned if they don't add CPP support this time.
I liked the first, still haven't finished it though. Now I have to.
Re: Review: 99Moves (DSiWare)
Yeah, 7/10. Disappointingly short and lacking in replay value but for 2 bucks it's a stylized arcade blast.
While accessibility is understandably a factor, the difficulty isn't too fair to judge as a sole factor unless it has awkward spikes.
Re: Developer Interview: Renegade Kid and a History of Nintendo Development
I enjoyed Moon much more then I enjoyed Mutant Mudds. Hell yes to CPP support.
Re: Rayman Legends Boss and Dev Team Protest Wii U Release Delay
These are some short people.
Re: Talking Point: This Fan's Tragic Tale Highlights The Problem With Nintendo's Approach To Download Purchases
@jboy1807 That is a wrong opinion and you should feel bad.
Jerkish comments aside, seriously, how can you protect this? YOu could just as easily sell your damn account.
Re: Nintendo Receives Zero BAFTA Game Awards Nominations
I love LBP and The Walking Dead, but Little Monsters and Soccer!? Who the hell made this list? They need a good smack not just for Nintendo (and Kid Icarus), but also for a lack of Gravity Rush.
Re: Mario Picks Up a DICE Sticker at Annual Awards
Yeah, Kid Icarus should've had first. Gravity Rush (finally tasted it) second.
Re: Review: Mega Man 2 (3DS eShop / NES)
@Philip_J_Reed You didn't really go over it in the review. That's what I'm getting at, since that's like a third of the game.
Also, Donkey Kong was an arcade game, meaning high-scores were a major factor.
Re: Review: Mega Man 2 (3DS eShop / NES)
@Philip_J_Reed What's the replay value you see in this game? I don't recall any alternate paths or anything.
Also, what's your opinion of Wily's Castle in this game?
Re: Review: Mega Man 2 (3DS eShop / NES)
@GN0LAUM That's where you're wrong. I love the mega Man series (or at least the first 3 games). I'm just trying to offer a perspective.
Game length is a major factor, how is it not/ Even though it's an NES game, it's quite short by modern standards.
And yes, guess-and-check is a problem in any game even when it's enjoyable. Guessing shouldn't be a factor especially in cases like this when you can be completely screwed by it.
That, and as I said before, the level design isn't always the best. Mega Man 3 had much better level design IMO.
Re: Review: Mega Man 2 (3DS eShop / NES)
10/10? I disagree with that. The game isn't lengthy, it requires a bit of guessing without any help (since certain stages you have to know the tricks and powers needed), and at times the level design could use polish. I realize the first 2 are part of the style of Mega Man in general but still, don't think guess-and-check gameplay should be rewarded.
That's not me hating, as I still love this game (and Mega Man 3 moreso), it's just trying to provide a somewhat objective point of view. The music is still top-notch I'll give you that.
Also, just pointing out you didn't talk about Dr. Wily's Castle.
Re: Wii U To Get An "Exclusive" Rayman Legends Demo Soon
Exact reaction: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iM85VwWWwu8
Re: Nintendo Set For Yearly High In Download Sales
Now let's increase that with some damn sales.
Re: Kid Icarus: Uprising
@DarkCoolEdge Circle Pad Pro would suck. If you have one, move with the face buttons and aim with the circle pad. You'll see why. They should've supported it anyways though.
Did you like games like Moon, Dementium or Metroid Prime Hunters?
Re: Hardware Classics: The Legend Of Zelda Game Boy Advance SP
Best Nintendo console ever IMO (though undeniably Wii had the most industry impact). Let's see if the 3DS can catch up.
Re: Review: Ikachan (3DS eShop)
@Chrono_Cross Well, I'll have to disagree with that. I actually liked NightSky the least, but that I felt was a much more artistic game.
Also, over Cave Story, what's a better example of Metroidvania-style platforming in your opinion? Even with the linearity, it's better then, say, Shantae: Risky's Revenge (the other highly revered indie example I can think of) and has far less flaws.
VVVVVV is overrated, I'll be fair about that.
Re: Iwata: 10 Key 3DS Titles On The Way This Year
@EvisceratorX And that's not funny
Re: Review: Babel Rising (WiiWare)
Oy, religious propoganda.
But yeah, there's no reason this should get on and Binding of Isaac shouldn't, other then stuff like blood and fecal matter that's already in other games.
Re: Nintendo Download: 31st January 2013 (North America)
99Moves for me. I'll see about the Agetec games.