Also, piracy is bad no matter what, but what about the companies who scam users or commit fraud themselves? Try FIFA 13 or PES 2013 for the Wii, they should be arrested.
The name Castlevania: Lords of Shadow: Mirror of Fate made me assume the gameplay would be similar to the console counterpart. And a major complaint of the first one was the fixed camera.
@HugoSmits Nobody CAN pirate your games though. DSiWare has never been hacked, and you've admitted that you don't care about your Bejeweled clones of which I know nothing about (they're not on your website)
A bit of an off-topic question, but a few years ago you had a contest for a boxed Flipper. Do you have an image of the back of the box? I would really like to read it. Also, was that cart playable on a DS Lite?
@TheDreamingHawk Also, region lock ENHANCES HACKING POSSIBILITIES.
49.9% of the people working on a 3DS hack? Yeah, if they could play imported game, goodbye. I'm not wasting my time on a hack. Another 49.9%. Give us cheaper devkits or homebrew possibilities and we won't touch you.
That leave a VERY SMALL AMOUNT interested in hacking for piracy. Most of the people who pirate are people who don't know how to hack at all.
@Windy It costs them. It costs them somewhere in the thousands. A quick search shows that Black Ops 2 right now has about 3000 seeders. I'll be generous and multiply that amount by 5 to estimate the download count (since obviously not everyone seeds). $60 x 15000 = Approximately 900,000 in losses. This is one of the BIGGEST GAMES OF THE YEAR, and I bet you the piracy count is much, much lower but I decided to be generous about the people who don't seed. And then there's still the millions who legitimately bought the cashcow game.
So if the biggest game loses that much, how the hell would a game almost nobody has heard of like Dementium have a big loss at all?
It's not near the billions at all. Dementium II if nobody could pirate would probably sell, what, 100 more copies?
Yeah, those figures are exaggerated to the extreme. It does not cause "billions of losses" every year. Think for a second here.
You are a CEO of EA or some other multi-billionaire company, stoked on cash. You want to make a huge-budget game, like Mass Effect 4. But wait! On Xbox 360 and PC, you'll lose billions if you release it. The only platforms safe from piracy are the PS3 (newer games), 3DS and PS Vita, the latter 2 almost to burst.
Think for a second. What sort of CEO would say "Let's go do something that'll cost BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN PIRACY LOSSES!"
And digital-only doesn't police the problem at all. Absolutely not. Look at the Wii again. Once it's hacked sure you can fix it faster, but even so it gives out loads of information, and then eventually you won't even need a game to hack your console (Look up Bannerbomb/Letterbomb)
@Windy First off, you're highly misinformed. It does not eat "millions", nowhere NEAR "billions". Do some research before you say that. If it ate that much, nobody would make high-budget games anymore.
Second, no, "digital-only" will not curb piracy in the slightest. Look at the iPhone, goes up against PSP as the most pirated system of all time if you consider it a console. And WiiWare games can be pirated.
Seriously people, DRM/Region Locking/Digital Only DOES NOT CURB PIRACY. IT ONLY INCREASES IT BY MAKING IT LOOK BETTER. You wanna curb piracy? Make homebrew/devkits officially supported and easily achievable, remove the region lock and DRM. Look at the PS3. It went unhacked until Sony effed up and removed the custom OS abilities.
If homebrew was easier, the only people trying to hack the console would be seedy flashcart makers trying to get rich quick, and they'd probably struggle without the help of actual good-natured homebrewers (Team Twiizers for example is against piracy)
@ouroborous To be honest, I think the concept of R4s and other flashcarts helped shift more then a few thousand DS units. I know some people who said they'll get a 3DS when homebrew is available
@Windy No, that won't help. People can download PC games that are Steam-only. People can download WiiWare/XBLA games.
NONONONONO, NO DRM NO DRM NO DRM. iTunes is the perfect example of why the creator of DRM should be shot.
But yeah, Hugo is right. The average pirate probably wasn't gonna buy Dementium anyways. It's quite different for huge games like Brawl, or even more prominent indie games like World of Goo, but it still isn't as huge a problem as failing devs would like to think.
Also, to state a consoles name is going to kill it sounds like flamebaiting.
And you didn't touch casual perception until halfway through, and even the casuals (like the ones who play only Crappy Birds and Cut The Rope) where I live know the difference.
Above 3DS comment "Many of Nintendo's newer games (especially Mario) just look like mods of previous ones rather than new. This is clearly PT with different mini-games and online thrown in."
vs.
Doma commented on Call of Duty Black Ops II Suffers From Reduced...: "No need to worry. It's not the same game. It's not the same content."
@Hokori Without trying to sound rude, he's trolling. He's deliberately stating stuff like that while saying stuff like "The Wii U is a stupid name and Nintendo is a failure" alongside "Black Ops 2 is an all new game while the 3DS is the same as the DS".
Yeah, obvious troll is obvious. This is different from the "you don't have to love Nintendo non-stop" rule, this is blatant flamebaiting.
@Doma The 3DS isn't an improvement? Casual perception perhaps, but to any Nintendo or multi-console gamer the difference is so large that only a damn fool would make an ignorant statement like that. It's like the soccer moms at Wal-mart.
"It's just a DSi in Thre-" "No you fool almost nobody gives a crap about 3D"
"value-for-money is dependent on how compulsive and entertaining the experience is for each individual. In our view, this title should have been slightly less expensive."
What the hell? I can see subjectivity and all, but this is a damn lie about value. The campaign length is about as long as say, Kid Icarus: Uprising, and maybe twice as long as NSMB2 for a fourth of the price (if you buy all your stuff full price). Truthfully, I'm ignoring replay value, but to say there isn't enough value for your money is wrong. Yes, if you don't enjoy it it's money down the drain, but that's true for practically anything. Casuals probably won't like the vast exploration and backtracking of Metroid Prime 2, but that shouldn't be taken into account with price.
Also, repetition makes sense for most genres, but this is Tower Defense. Had they just fancified and gave new color schemes to a few worlds, would this complaint still be valid?
@C-Olimar Well, only 2 of those games seem to be worth a damn (although I haven't tried Gardenscapes or Murder on the Titanic) so it's not a big loss anyways, is it?
Sure you may be screwed over in pricing, but for the most part you wouldn't want to touch that crap anyways. And what do Order Up and Outdoors Unleashed average in price on Amazon or other cheap stores?
The gameplay description already has me impressed.
"We are aiming at the 200 Nintendo point price range. It would fit the game nicely, since the game will feature around 1,5/2 hour of gameplay in a innovating and fresh way!" with 25 levels.
Damnit Hugo, if these are the same length as Ace Mathician then I'm gonna be sad when it's over.
"The main development platform for this game is DSi-Ware, but it could also be ported to Iphone/Ipad."
If he also includes Android, double-dipping since the graphics will probably be better.
@Jaybuscus Please do some research before making ignorant statements.
A. It's very unlikely someone will be able to hack through networks like that. The Wii is fine. B. Even if they could, who's enough of a jerk to do that? C. Warranties. Renew them.
For a different perspective, Valve says that a good service trumps pirates. Hugo right here admits to using homebrew for development, and even showed off games using homebrew. The people at Team Meat think that piracy helps reach new audiences (something I both agree and disagree with), and for a really loose example, many developers believe in the good will of consumers and simply remove all DRM limitations. Quote Tomorrow Corporation "Congratulations! We're a team of three guys who quit our jobs to build this game on our laptops, by ourselves, with no office, and no funding. The game has no DRM or copy protection of any sort, and is very easy to pirate, but we rely on honest players to properly buy the game so we can keep making experimental new games like this.
Alright fine, here's the bottom line, piracy does not affect sales as much as developers think at all.
Angry Birds is still a success (and that's a sad fact) despite the fact that it takes all of 5 minutes to jailbreak your iTouch and download it, or all of 5 seconds to simply run an APK on an Android.
Steam is still a thriving service even though you can simply pirate practically any of the games there.
again, this is not the place for that discussion. please stop — TBD
Frankly, I'm against piracy, but I'm more for Homebrew since the Wii proved that beyond the hackers, you can do tons.
Also, RK is really ignorant to say that piracy killed their sales. Explain how PC games and services like Steam stay afloat when piracy is easier then using a microwave.
Unfortunately, EnjoyUp made some terrible games towards the end of the year like Crazy Hunter, negating their chances time around I think. Hopefully they'll make it onto here with 99Bullets 3D (which they said they might do) or maybe another Abyss title with more levels.
Shin'en definitely deserved it way more then Lazy Port Mania though.
Oh yeah, wishful thinking, but if we see a return of Q-Games, they will deserve all 3 spots.
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Re: Picked Up A Pre-Owned Wii U Console? You Could Have Access To Free Downloads
^Please don't try to protect the blatantly atrocious. Every other company uses a much better system.
And in that case, you'd likely be able to download all your games since you'd probablu have a months notice or so.
Re: Picked Up A Pre-Owned Wii U Console? You Could Have Access To Free Downloads
Goes to show, when your company is that f**king stupid over things like this, it'll bite back harder then a damn alligator.
Seriously Nintendo, the hell is wrong with you? Every other company has this right, but no, you can't do it right the 4th damn time.
Suck on this problem fanboys.
Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Lives On In Fan-Made Browser Game
Let's see Mega Man Legends 3 Forever.
Re: Renegade Kid Confirms Mutant Mudds 2
@SirQuincealot Not true. Mega Man 9 had a multi-console release, plus the PS3 has a decent D-Pad unlike the X360.
@Knux And that's why PushSquare is here. For you. To enjoy.
Re: Nintendo Download: 3rd January 2013 (North America)
@TheDreamingHawk Further back then that was Order Up, except the publishers were really nice about pricing there at $10.
Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Lives On In Fan-Made Browser Game
@TheDreamingHawk Mega Man 64 did suffer some minor losses compared to MML on the PS1. PC was the worst.
Gamerankings
PS1: 73.73%
PC: 33.67%
N64: 63.94%
Mega Man Legends 2 was a bit of an improvement but still around 75 average.
Personally, I enjoyed the first one even with a few unpolished issues, but it's definitely not the god-almighty title fans speak of.
Re: Mega Man Legends 3 Lives On In Fan-Made Browser Game
They tried to do the same idea with Sonic X-Treme. They failed miserably IIRC. One level is a major accomplishment.
Re: Goodbye Galaxy Games Responds To Renegade Kid's Piracy Claims
Also, piracy is bad no matter what, but what about the companies who scam users or commit fraud themselves? Try FIFA 13 or PES 2013 for the Wii, they should be arrested.
Re: Castlevania: Mirror Of Fate Contains Eye-Stabbing, Werewolf Appendages And Topless Action
@Abcdude I love you man.
Re: Castlevania: Mirror Of Fate Contains Eye-Stabbing, Werewolf Appendages And Topless Action
@Gioku And that's the problem with modern socie-
Nah, I'm gonna cut myself off before a rant.
Re: Mutant Mudds Deluxe Content Will Be Exclusive To Wii U
@brandonbwii No, those DLC levels were terrible before they said anything about piracy. The main game was good if a little slow-paced.
Re: Castlevania: Mirror Of Fate Contains Eye-Stabbing, Werewolf Appendages And Topless Action
@Pikachupwnage I feel stupid XP
The name Castlevania: Lords of Shadow: Mirror of Fate made me assume the gameplay would be similar to the console counterpart. And a major complaint of the first one was the fixed camera.
Re: Castlevania: Mirror Of Fate Contains Eye-Stabbing, Werewolf Appendages And Topless Action
Also, is this gonna have CPP support? Trying to get as much usage out of this thing as possible.
Re: Castlevania: Mirror Of Fate Contains Eye-Stabbing, Werewolf Appendages And Topless Action
Genitalia as in a graphically depicted penis? The way they described it alongside "partial" nudity, maybe it's like Killface in Frisky Dingo.
Re: UK 007 Legends Wii U Release Now TBC 2013
To be continued?
Re: Goodbye Galaxy Games Responds To Renegade Kid's Piracy Claims
@HugoSmits Nobody CAN pirate your games though. DSiWare has never been hacked, and you've admitted that you don't care about your Bejeweled clones of which I know nothing about (they're not on your website)
A bit of an off-topic question, but a few years ago you had a contest for a boxed Flipper. Do you have an image of the back of the box? I would really like to read it. Also, was that cart playable on a DS Lite?
Re: Goodbye Galaxy Games Responds To Renegade Kid's Piracy Claims
@TheDreamingHawk Also, region lock ENHANCES HACKING POSSIBILITIES.
49.9% of the people working on a 3DS hack? Yeah, if they could play imported game, goodbye. I'm not wasting my time on a hack. Another 49.9%. Give us cheaper devkits or homebrew possibilities and we won't touch you.
That leave a VERY SMALL AMOUNT interested in hacking for piracy. Most of the people who pirate are people who don't know how to hack at all.
Re: Goodbye Galaxy Games Responds To Renegade Kid's Piracy Claims
@Windy It costs them. It costs them somewhere in the thousands. A quick search shows that Black Ops 2 right now has about 3000 seeders. I'll be generous and multiply that amount by 5 to estimate the download count (since obviously not everyone seeds). $60 x 15000 = Approximately 900,000 in losses. This is one of the BIGGEST GAMES OF THE YEAR, and I bet you the piracy count is much, much lower but I decided to be generous about the people who don't seed. And then there's still the millions who legitimately bought the cashcow game.
So if the biggest game loses that much, how the hell would a game almost nobody has heard of like Dementium have a big loss at all?
It's not near the billions at all. Dementium II if nobody could pirate would probably sell, what, 100 more copies?
Re: Review: Johnny Impossible (3DS eShop)
Someone say something positive about this game. SOMEONE.
My faith in humanity isn't THAT low. How badly could they screw up a freaking low-budget platformer?
Re: Goodbye Galaxy Games Responds To Renegade Kid's Piracy Claims
Yeah, those figures are exaggerated to the extreme. It does not cause "billions of losses" every year. Think for a second here.
You are a CEO of EA or some other multi-billionaire company, stoked on cash. You want to make a huge-budget game, like Mass Effect 4. But wait! On Xbox 360 and PC, you'll lose billions if you release it. The only platforms safe from piracy are the PS3 (newer games), 3DS and PS Vita, the latter 2 almost to burst.
Think for a second. What sort of CEO would say "Let's go do something that'll cost BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN PIRACY LOSSES!"
And digital-only doesn't police the problem at all. Absolutely not. Look at the Wii again. Once it's hacked sure you can fix it faster, but even so it gives out loads of information, and then eventually you won't even need a game to hack your console (Look up Bannerbomb/Letterbomb)
Re: Riding Stables 3D
Are you guys gonna stick to your "Review all digital download games" stance or what? We're nearing two weeks here.
Re: Goodbye Galaxy Games Responds To Renegade Kid's Piracy Claims
@Windy First off, you're highly misinformed. It does not eat "millions", nowhere NEAR "billions". Do some research before you say that. If it ate that much, nobody would make high-budget games anymore.
Second, no, "digital-only" will not curb piracy in the slightest. Look at the iPhone, goes up against PSP as the most pirated system of all time if you consider it a console. And WiiWare games can be pirated.
Seriously people, DRM/Region Locking/Digital Only DOES NOT CURB PIRACY. IT ONLY INCREASES IT BY MAKING IT LOOK BETTER. You wanna curb piracy? Make homebrew/devkits officially supported and easily achievable, remove the region lock and DRM. Look at the PS3. It went unhacked until Sony effed up and removed the custom OS abilities.
If homebrew was easier, the only people trying to hack the console would be seedy flashcart makers trying to get rich quick, and they'd probably struggle without the help of actual good-natured homebrewers (Team Twiizers for example is against piracy)
Re: Goodbye Galaxy Games Responds To Renegade Kid's Piracy Claims
@ouroborous To be honest, I think the concept of R4s and other flashcarts helped shift more then a few thousand DS units. I know some people who said they'll get a 3DS when homebrew is available
@Windy No, that won't help. People can download PC games that are Steam-only. People can download WiiWare/XBLA games.
Re: Nintendo Download: 3rd January 2013 (Europe)
@RupeeClock Nicalis hates Europe I assume.
Re: Goodbye Galaxy Games Responds To Renegade Kid's Piracy Claims
NONONONONO, NO DRM NO DRM NO DRM. iTunes is the perfect example of why the creator of DRM should be shot.
But yeah, Hugo is right. The average pirate probably wasn't gonna buy Dementium anyways. It's quite different for huge games like Brawl, or even more prominent indie games like World of Goo, but it still isn't as huge a problem as failing devs would like to think.
Re: ATV Wild Ride 3D Racing To 3DS eShop
We should start a petition for either Dementium III or Moon 2 on the eShop. Hopefully the latter as I liked Moon a whole lot more.
Re: Mutant Mudds Deluxe Content Will Be Exclusive To Wii U
If this is anything like the 3DS DLC levels, then this is no loss. I wouldn't pay a cent for those atrocities.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's New Year Resolutions
Also, to state a consoles name is going to kill it sounds like flamebaiting.
And you didn't touch casual perception until halfway through, and even the casuals (like the ones who play only Crappy Birds and Cut The Rope) where I live know the difference.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's New Year Resolutions
Then why are you making Flamebait posts like "the DS is the same as the 3DS" when any gamer who's TOUCHED the damn thing knows it's a big difference.
You know, like how the PS3 is an improvement over the PS2. Don't be a dumb soccer mom.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's New Year Resolutions
Just to make myself clear
Above 3DS comment
"Many of Nintendo's newer games (especially Mario) just look like mods of previous ones rather than new. This is clearly PT with different mini-games and online thrown in."
vs.
Doma commented on Call of Duty Black Ops II Suffers From Reduced...:
"No need to worry.
It's not the same game. It's not the same content."
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's New Year Resolutions
@Hokori Without trying to sound rude, he's trolling. He's deliberately stating stuff like that while saying stuff like "The Wii U is a stupid name and Nintendo is a failure" alongside "Black Ops 2 is an all new game while the 3DS is the same as the DS".
Yeah, obvious troll is obvious. This is different from the "you don't have to love Nintendo non-stop" rule, this is blatant flamebaiting.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's New Year Resolutions
Also I presume Iwata has been taking pay cuts since 2010-2011 since Wii sales dropped off.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's New Year Resolutions
@Doma The 3DS isn't an improvement? Casual perception perhaps, but to any Nintendo or multi-console gamer the difference is so large that only a damn fool would make an ignorant statement like that. It's like the soccer moms at Wal-mart.
"It's just a DSi in Thre-"
"No you fool almost nobody gives a crap about 3D"
Re: Review: Dillon's Rolling Western (3DSWare)
"value-for-money is dependent on how compulsive and entertaining the experience is for each individual. In our view, this title should have been slightly less expensive."
What the hell? I can see subjectivity and all, but this is a damn lie about value. The campaign length is about as long as say, Kid Icarus: Uprising, and maybe twice as long as NSMB2 for a fourth of the price (if you buy all your stuff full price). Truthfully, I'm ignoring replay value, but to say there isn't enough value for your money is wrong. Yes, if you don't enjoy it it's money down the drain, but that's true for practically anything. Casuals probably won't like the vast exploration and backtracking of Metroid Prime 2, but that shouldn't be taken into account with price.
Also, repetition makes sense for most genres, but this is Tower Defense. Had they just fancified and gave new color schemes to a few worlds, would this complaint still be valid?
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's New Year Resolutions
eShop sales should've been on here.
But yeah, more love for other IPs strikes me as the most important.
Re: Review: 3D Game Collection (3DS eShop)
@C-Olimar Well, only 2 of those games seem to be worth a damn (although I haven't tried Gardenscapes or Murder on the Titanic) so it's not a big loss anyways, is it?
Sure you may be screwed over in pricing, but for the most part you wouldn't want to touch that crap anyways. And what do Order Up and Outdoors Unleashed average in price on Amazon or other cheap stores?
Re: Johnny Impossible
This actually doesn't look bad in the least. Unless they screwed up the controls I think this has a chance of being decent
Re: Color Commando
http://www.goodbyegalaxygames.com/colorcommando/press.html
The gameplay description already has me impressed.
"We are aiming at the 200 Nintendo point price range. It would fit the game nicely, since the game will feature around 1,5/2 hour of gameplay in a innovating and fresh way!" with 25 levels.
Damnit Hugo, if these are the same length as Ace Mathician then I'm gonna be sad when it's over.
"The main development platform for this game is DSi-Ware, but it could also be ported to Iphone/Ipad."
If he also includes Android, double-dipping since the graphics will probably be better.
Re: Game of the Year: Nintendo Life's Community Awards 2012
@gundam00 Like I told X-Factor, could you try moving with ABXY and aiming with the circle pad? Then say if you like it or not.
Re: Game of the Year: Nintendo Life's Community Awards 2012
@X-Factor Try moving with the ABXY buttons and aiming with the control stick. See if you like it.
Re: Game of the Year: Nintendo Life's Community Awards 2012
How do you aim?
Re: Game of the Year: Nintendo Life's Community Awards 2012
The controls are as tight as they could be. Get your left handed friend to try aiming with the control stick. You'll see why it sucks.
Re: Renegade Kid Worried About 3DS Piracy
No region lock and easy homebrew would mean this would be long delayed.
It would still happen, but then you could make a fair piracy argument. Nobody would buy a cart except for pirates, homebrewers prefer softmods.
Re: Renegade Kid Worried About 3DS Piracy
@Jaybuscus Please do some research before making ignorant statements.
A. It's very unlikely someone will be able to hack through networks like that. The Wii is fine.
B. Even if they could, who's enough of a jerk to do that?
C. Warranties. Renew them.
Re: Renegade Kid Worried About 3DS Piracy
For a different perspective, Valve says that a good service trumps pirates. Hugo right here admits to using homebrew for development, and even showed off games using homebrew. The people at Team Meat think that piracy helps reach new audiences (something I both agree and disagree with), and for a really loose example, many developers believe in the good will of consumers and simply remove all DRM limitations. Quote Tomorrow Corporation "Congratulations! We're a team of three guys who quit our jobs to build this game on our laptops, by ourselves, with no office, and no funding. The game has no DRM or copy protection of any sort, and is very easy to pirate, but we rely on honest players to properly buy the game so we can keep making experimental new games like this.
You can find the real version here: http://tomorrowcorporation.com/littleinferno
Thanks guys, stay warm in there!
Kyle, Kyle, and Allan"
While they're obviously against piracy, they don't threaten to quit development or make idiot moves like Capcom and BCR2.
Re: Renegade Kid Worried About 3DS Piracy
Alright fine, here's the bottom line, piracy does not affect sales as much as developers think at all.
Angry Birds is still a success (and that's a sad fact) despite the fact that it takes all of 5 minutes to jailbreak your iTouch and download it, or all of 5 seconds to simply run an APK on an Android.
Steam is still a thriving service even though you can simply pirate practically any of the games there.
again, this is not the place for that discussion. please stop — TBD
Re: Renegade Kid Worried About 3DS Piracy
Frankly, I'm against piracy, but I'm more for Homebrew since the Wii proved that beyond the hackers, you can do tons.
Also, RK is really ignorant to say that piracy killed their sales. Explain how PC games and services like Steam stay afloat when piracy is easier then using a microwave.
Re: Best of 2012: Staff Awards
Unfortunately, EnjoyUp made some terrible games towards the end of the year like Crazy Hunter, negating their chances time around I think. Hopefully they'll make it onto here with 99Bullets 3D (which they said they might do) or maybe another Abyss title with more levels.
Shin'en definitely deserved it way more then Lazy Port Mania though.
Oh yeah, wishful thinking, but if we see a return of Q-Games, they will deserve all 3 spots.
Re: Renegade Kid Worried About 3DS Piracy
@AyeHaley Yes, let me drop $280 to buy $70 games and play them that way while carrying 2 handhelds around.
Screw region locking.
Re: Renegade Kid Worried About 3DS Piracy
Hurry up and make Moon 2 then. That way we have a 3DS FPS before piracy is rampant.