Honestly? Ubisoft seem to be just... lumping along with no direction. I wouln't be surprised if the family that are the biggest owners of Ubisoft just sell out and leave to avoid having to face the reality that they f*** up in a lot of ways in the recent years.
@BTB20 Like I said, those games sales are fine. But those were not even the best selling games in their franchises.
With Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, it reverses the downward trend of sales since Explorers of Sky and with WarioWare GiT it sold arround the same the other games despite having a higher price point but neither of those games sold AMAZING, you know? Nothing that says Nintendo that they HAVE TO do another game. Specially on a consistent basis. Hence why those games come very infrequent nowadays. Believe me, I wish we got another Pokemon Mystery Dungeon. I really wish...
@Tandy255 My main issue is that it felt that right after the DLC started to roll it ended. How many courses they added? Two? I follow videogame news daily and I didn't even know about the content they added.
I still want to buy this game. Lots of other games to finish (+scarcity with Kirby for months after release with the physical version in Europe). And right now I have Xeno3 and LiveALive to finish so... yeah. But this very year I want to buy it, it looks quite fun!
@BTB20 As of March 31 2020, the Pokemon Mistery Dungeon remake sold 1.26 million copies. As of: December 31st 2020 the game sold 1,6;M units.
Explorers of Time+Darkness sold 4.88 million (Explorers of Sky 1.49 million).
I don't know where you found that information about Pokemon Mistery Dungeon Remake, I would be happy to know that I'm wrong tho so... Show me where, please.
WarioWare GiT sold 1.27 million copies worldwide (last official numbers). WarioWare Smooth Moves sold 1.82 million copies. In this case numbers are close and GiT could have surpassed Smooth Moves with the unreported numbers, I give you that.
@IronMan30 To add to this argument, people should also stop assuming that this model is bad by default. Sure, it was pretty bad in Mario Golf Super Rush (honeslty, probably it's worse implementation. It was released barebones and it stopped being supported really quickly) but I think it's better implemented on games like Splatoon or even Mario Tennis Aces (yes, I think that game did it ok).
@Yosher About the Cristal Chronicles game that seems more like pure incompetence. Like, why does that game have no local coop when it was a local coop game originally? Why is the online so poorly implemented that they even removed features from the original game because they apperantly couldn't implement them all these years later? UGH.
The Chocobo game seems like both things: greed and incompetence. The fact that of all the games, this one got MTX is just so scummy. A kid focused FF spin-off game that is not F2P and is on the same platform than MK was deemed a good place to put MTX.
@Bunkerneath 2 of these three games are published by Nintendo themselves. Or you don't count something as a "Nintendo" game unless is made by their internal devs?
@Joker1234 And even then, Fire Emblem Awakening was the last chance of the series at the time to come back. The fact that it actually sold is what made the series successful.
Again, for every success you point out, I can say multiple that didn't do too well or even failed.
Smaller niche games that Nintendo publishes don't usually do that well. Even being subseries of popular franchises. Remember how they did Wario Ware on Switch? Or how on 3DS we got a new Rhythm Heaven game alongside a physical game of Dillon (the armadillo guy)? Remember Sushi Striker the Way of Sushido? Or the remakes of Pokemon Mystery Dungeon? (ugh... why people didn't bought more this one?)
2of this games sold ok, another sold ""ok"" and the other two were definetive flops.
Don't get me wrong, arround 1 million is a good number for these games and some get those numbers. But those are not numbers that tell to Nintendo to make those games consistently. Hence those are treated like experiments and/or just to fill calendar slots between big releases.
Like I said, there is a lot of people that scream how much FZero deserves a come back but that doesn't mean that it would sell and that is the big reason why it hasn't come back.
Sorry for all of this rambling... It's just that it angers me a little to see people clamering for a series to come back only to do poorly and then question why Nintendo "only focuseses on the same franchises" while ignoring those games were even released.
@Yosher Exact same thing happened with the Cristal Chronicles remake. In that case they made the multiplayer of a multiplayer focused game tedious... I don't get why SquareEnix seems to fail so much recently with Final Fantasy spin-offs. Even with those that should have been easy to do.
@GrailUK Why are selling something that is for ultra fans of Xenoblade 3 not at launch? I guess that is an issue related to the release date of the game being earlier than expected.
@Joker1234 Because new stuff and also bringing old IPs is quite risky and doesn't always work.
Sure, you can point to Splatoon. But I can also point out Codename Steam.
Like, I'm one of those people that thinks that, if Nintendo made a new FZero game, it would sell like 500k lifetime at most and people would only notice it years later when it gets the "hidden gem" status while selling poorly at the time... Oh hey, just like FZero GX.
I don't get people saying that there apperantly aren't many Nintendo releases for this year? Like, we still have Splatoon 3, Bayonetta 3 (finally), the new Pokemon generation, Mario+Rabbits 2 and Advance Wars would probably also sneak in. Where do you fit more games this year?
Also, this year we got another big Pokemon game in January, a 3D Kirby game in March, Xenoblade 3 like a week ago alongside smaller games like Switch Sports and Mario Strikers. Like, I don't think this year is weak at all.
@Jhena Oh my... I haven't even thought about that interpretation of Dexit. Yes, (the article and) I was refeering to the cut of Pokemon since SWSH, not about Germany leaving the EU.
@theshirecat OOOHH. I like that. As many Charizard forms as Pokemon in gen 1. That's two layers of gen 1 references. Don't forget to ignore the other two Kanto starters tho, since those are not important compared to CHARIZARD.
@spottedleaf Unfortunately, I doubt either BDSP or Arceus recieve any updates. And (also) unfortunatelly, I think the possibilities of another Mystery Dungeon Pokemon game are slim. The remake on Switch sold ok but nothing mindblowing. And believe me, I want to be wrong about this one.
@IronMan30 What? You didn't need to announce what you think other people that you don't know will say after the news either.
I just don't get it at this point.... "wow! look at all these people saying that they don't like Pokemon and critizing the games! How funny!". All of this because of what? The critism SWSH recieved almost three years ago and the need you feel to "get back at them for that"? Is that it?
@IronMan30 Honestly? People complaining about people complaining about Pokemon are getting annoying at this point.
They are done with Pokemon? Ok... What's the problem with that?
@GoldenSunRM I remember when they even tried to defend that and admitted that it was actually done on purpose. I wish YouTube had an actual block button at this point instead of just an "option to not reccomend this channel" that only appears sometimes.
@exit Yeah, I know they didn't use the full names but, like you said, it's not that farfeched to assume who were they refeering too.
A lot of people here seem to imply that people are angry at the LEWD only but I honestly don't think that's the case and it's ignoring important context.
My opinion is that a bunch of people thought that a lewd game decided to do that was a "step too far". That and the bad timing with that incident of reported sex crimes in massage parlours in Japan arround this time makes this game look even more toxic (probably more than it actually is to be fair).
Honestly? I kinda feel bad for this game. This is the only piece of news of it I've heard about it and I read videogame news daily.
The fact that Xenoblade 3, a JRPG with much more visibility, launches on the same day it's going to basically kill a big part of it's sales at launch.
Besides, I'm still finishing Digimon Cyber Sleuth so I won't pick it up at launch despite me hearing about it for a while. I think people can imagine what JRPG I'm going to pick up this week.
@exit I mean... I personally find this type of games creepy as ***. But I usually don't care to critize anything since there is some niche market that buys them and they don't seem to bother anyone. But the fact that this game ended up having real names without concent at some point made me quite annoyed. Because the context is not the same in that regard.
@PunkRx_Lockly "why can't people make lewd games and include names of people without concent? How far is the wOkE culture going to fall!?"
I want to mention the CONTEXT of the names because... you know, IT'S THE REASON WHY THIS CONTROVERSY STARTED IN THE FIRST PLACE and you didn't even bother mentioning it in your comment.
Comments like this are the worse for me in my opinion. They put all the critism in the same side. If you are a person that makes their opinion heard and say that you find what they did with this game wrong, you are just a "woke moralist". Because apperantly critism and free speach is a sin now. Because, yes, people that critize this game have free speach too.
@SmaggTheSmug You yourself said that is not the case anymore in Japan tho, since the new law doesn't require the statement being false.
And, AGAIN, I'm just saying that the name thing is what started this whole thing. People saw a lewd game that "went this far" and that's what seem to put people off. Again, hundreds of lewd games on the eShop with no controversy.
@SmaggTheSmug And how do you distinct "right to express opinions freely" and "destroy someone's reputation"? Is me saying that the fact they even considered using real names in a game like this kinda creepy one thing or the other? How do you tell one or the other? How do you know the opinions and intentions of everyone that critized this game?
Also "The developers changed the names so it would be weird if they sued over this. Ergo, the names aren't the issue."?... Like, sure, legally they are fine now with the names (even though you could actually make the argument that using their names at one had "damage those people's reputations"... but whatever). But that wasn't the point. We are talking here about the reasons why people felt the need to critize this. That reason being because a lewd game went to the lengths to include real names at one point and people thought that was too far for a game like this. The fact that they changed the name (after the backlash started) and the fact that there are different things legally doesn't change this. Again, why hundreds of lewd games on the eShop didn't get any controversy but this one does. What is the difference?
Also, I literally answer to your comments. I implied your opinions on this matter from here. If you have any concrete opinion about this whole thing say it clearly instead of using a fancy word to try to invalidate my comments.
@SmaggTheSmug Ugh...
I assumed the backlash was not only because of the lewd part due to the high quantity of lewd games released with no controversy, I then looked the differences between those games and this one. How do you explain this situation? You still haven't done that.
Also, sure, they can sue Japanese people that critize their desition. But the thing here is, I thought all the Japanese people are a monolith that are all against these desition. That's what some people in this very comment section insist after all.
Although, to be fair, it was wrong to assume you also meant that. I'm used to all the people using the buzzwords you used to think the "evil west" are all "puritan SJW" and Japan is all "anti censhorship".
And, yes, this could very well be a free speach issue. Is a company going after people that complain about their product online a good thing? Could that get repercutions in the future? When is complaining free speach and when is "defamation"? I don't get why are you insinuating this has nothing to do with free speach.
And apperantly all my opinions are invalid because I used "consider if...". And you apperantly didn't?
Ok... Who are all those "SJW"? Do you have proof of that backlash? Do you have proof that backlash was exclusivly due to the lewd part and not related at all to the fact they used real names at one point? Do you know the actual position of all of the people that complained about this? Do you have proof of the nationality of the people that the company is targeting? Do you have proof that backlash was enough to be defamation therefore not being protected by free speach rights? If you don't, then you are also using "consider if...".
And finally, I assumed your position because of what you said here. But if I'm wrong I'd be more than happy to know what is your actual position on the issue.
@SmaggTheSmug You didn't even bother to answer anything I said in my last comment. You just said that I was wrong because yes.
What falsehoods I said?
That the context of being a lewd game that used real life people name makes it worse and that trying to separate those two things is just wrong since you are ignoring important context?
That people are not complaining the lewdness itself since there are hundreds of those games on the eShop that got 0 controversy?
You seem to be incapable to consider that it's the context of this lewd game having the "great" desition to use real life names that created all of this BUT that doesn't mean people are complaining the lewdness itself since, again, plenty of lewd games exist with 0 controversy.
The last point is why I mentioned that the lewd was not the thing people were complaining about but you seem to be using that phrase in order to accuse me of "moving goalpoasts" despite not doing that at all. Again, the lewd was not the main issue here. I don't even know how many times I have to say it.
To me, tt seems those two things HAVE to be separate according to you in order to accuse people of being "too puritan" instead of them probably just being weirded out that a lewd game went to that extreme (or at the very least, it is how I still feel about all of this).
@SmaggTheSmug I'm going to repeat myself again it seems since you seem to only read what you want from my comments. Yes, the main problem with this game is NOT THE LEWD. If that were the case, how is it that dozens of lewd japaniese games release on the eShop weekly with almost zero controversy? What the lewd is here is the context that makes the situation worse.
Why are you trying so desperatly to separate the two things when those two are obviously related? People are complaining that a game that is about giving "massages" to woman used real names without concent. That's why the lewd comes up in the critism, because it gives more context about why this situation was in poor taste.
Because, yes, using real names in a game does not always give the same impression. If real names were used in a fechquest of a JRPG then the context would be different. There also are other cases were that could be problematic like using real names of living people in a shooter. Context matters. And I don't think I have "no point at all" for saying that.
@Paradigm Repeating the same thing twice doesn't make it true.
And do you know personally every single person of Japan or something? Seriously, What is with this mentality some people have of Japan? Sorry to burst your bubble, but there are a bunch of people there and not everyone thinks like you.
Assuming every single dissident is from the "puritan west" or from "extremist groups" also seems kinda stupid. I think what they did by putting real names on a game like this without concent was in very poor taste, does that make me an "extrimist" too?
Edit: Also, just realized... You created an account JUST NOW. Huh...
I know some people feel the need to defend dynamax by saying over and over how "actually, it's not that bad" or "megas are bad too". But, to be honest, my biggest issue with dynamax is how it throw out all the designs of megas for something that is very similar.
All the mega designs are still innaccesible in modern games. That, to me, is the worse thing about this desition of having shallow one game gimmicks. They could improve the megas and make them more balanced for competitive, but they decided to ignore they ever existed and created a very similar mechanic instead.
And it doesn't matter that some people like Dynamax and Gigantamax more, because all the designs of Gigantamax and strategy of Dynamax only lasts one game.
@SmaggTheSmug Why did they said stuff like "promote rape culture" or "is similar to assault in massage parlors" in particular? Maybe because it used real names at one point? Like it or not, that's why the controversy started. If that wasn't the case, it'd just be another lewd japaniese game on the Switch's eShop. And sure, it should have stopped when they removed the names but you should know that (unfortunately) that's not how the internet works.
Also, I'm sorry to say plenty of pro-free speech arguments are against defamation laws. There are plenty of people who believe free speach should be absolute (and others that agree with them until they see the effects against them...). I don't know what your exact opinion is about free speech since I don't personally know you but your entire point of "these people wanted consequences for speach and I'm happy if THEY get them" gave me bad vives.
And, again, if you aren't in favour of a particular law, why are you celebrating that law being used? Becase it is being used on "the people who deserve it"? In my opinion, that's hypocritical. If you truly are against a law then any application of it should be bad, right?
Also, if a Japaniese company is trying to sue a US citizen, they would have to do it on US courts using US law (being federal and/or state specific). It doesn't matter that the company *suing them are from Japan.
@SmaggTheSmug Defamation and censorship are different things but censhorship can happen due to defamaiton lawsuits. Again, this was the argument people like you used right until someone use it against people you don't seem to like much.
Btw, yes, the company changed the names... after the backlash that you don't seem to like much happened. Also, again, you call out "EsJeDovelwus" for defending "consequences for speach" while now applauding those consecuences being a thing? Are you in favour of that or not? or your only opinion is whatever goes against a strawmanned version of people that think differently than you?
Also, yes, a Japan company can sue an american user. But, as you said, it'd use Amercan law, meaning the new Japan law is not in effect here.
@Frdmman Do you know the issue in particular is not that the game is lewd, right? I say this because the issue is right on the article and is not that.
@SmaggTheSmug First of all, I'm going to repeat what I said in my previous comment (with more detail, of course).
That law is a defamation law that explicitly said that defimation can happen even when the ones doing it are saying the truth. And a bunch of people (including ones that usually are all against "censhorship in anime") voiced their reservations. Now, the same people are applauding using that law because it goes against the people they hate. I just found this hypocritical.
Btw I'm not strawmanning here. You yourself implied that "speach having consequences" was a "SJW" thing but when "the other side" does it it's suddently ok? Why? Because "they deserve it"? THAT'S what I find hypocritical.
What if people actually use the same law to sue the videogame developers because they argue that using their names caused damage to their image? Because they actually can do that too.
Also, that law is a Japan law, meaning it's exclusive to Japan. Good luck trying to sue random oversea users that apperantly are the culprits of this (becasue obviously noone in Japan got angry because of this, despite the incident mentioned here taking place in Japan, since everyone in Japan thinks just like you imagine they do).
Oh and it seems you are bringing all the typical boogieman buzzwords. "SJW", "political correctness"... Why stop there? At least include "woke", that one is a classic.
I also want to remind you about the reason why this game got critism. Because it used REAL NAMES without consent for woman put in implied sexual positions. THE ISSUE HERE IS NOT THE SEXUAL CONTENT. Noone here is stopping the constant flow of lewd games on Switch.
Edit: (maybe putting this would also allow people from Nintendo Life not removing my comment due to being "off topic")
@SmaggTheSmug Did you use "SJW" unironically? Amazing... Totally unbiased there. People complaining about the devs using real people names (without concent) in a lewd game released arround recent reported sex crimes in massage parlours in Japan coming to light are apperantly being unreasonable here.
Also, I'm going to repeat your point again: "but the evil SJW like this law so it's fine if someone, who rejected it before due to concerns about free speach, use it now".
I'm sorry but, seeing this arguments, I end up doubting their defense of free speach is actually genuine. It seems it was just due to pointless online battles against strawmanned versions of people that disagree with them.
@Doomcrow Have you read the article or are you deliveratly ignoring details to "win" the argument? Here: "(...) folks were quick to take note of the game's depiction of women and the apparent similarity to reported sex crimes in massage parlours in Japan. Specifically, it was noticed that the in-game characters shared the same forenames as members of the Japanese idol group 'Hinatazaka46'."
There are plenty of lewd games on the eShop. This game used names of actual people after the recent reported sex crimes in massage parlours in Japan. The context here matters.
@SmaggTheSmug Weird... I thought "free speach, anti-censorship advocates" were against that law? I guess it's not the case when it benefits them.
Also, are they going to sue oversees people that complain too. Could I get sued because I dared to say something they did was in poor taste? So much for free speach I guess.
Edit: Also, I want to remind they used real names from real people on their games. Maybe other people were thinking on suing here... Just saying.
I honestly enjoyed Fall Guys much more that what I expected. Playing with some friends was a really good time too. I don't know how much would last but I'm even considering buying the battle pass for the first season at the very least. I don't think I'll regret it seeing the hours that I put into it.
Now that I think about it... It's odd how this game still hasn't come to console seeing how "old" it is. Like, sure, he is just one person. But, seeing the success of his game, I thought some published approached him already.
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Re: Tencent Is Seeking A Bigger Stake In 'Mario + Rabbids' Publisher Ubisoft
Honestly? Ubisoft seem to be just... lumping along with no direction. I wouln't be surprised if the family that are the biggest owners of Ubisoft just sell out and leave to avoid having to face the reality that they f*** up in a lot of ways in the recent years.
Re: Nintendo Reconfirms Release Windows For Major Upcoming Switch Games
@BTB20 Like I said, those games sales are fine. But those were not even the best selling games in their franchises.
With Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, it reverses the downward trend of sales since Explorers of Sky and with WarioWare GiT it sold arround the same the other games despite having a higher price point but neither of those games sold AMAZING, you know?
Nothing that says Nintendo that they HAVE TO do another game. Specially on a consistent basis. Hence why those games come very infrequent nowadays.
Believe me, I wish we got another Pokemon Mystery Dungeon. I really wish...
Re: Nintendo Has High Hopes For Nintendo Switch Sports As It Nears 5 Million Sales
@Tandy255 My main issue is that it felt that right after the DLC started to roll it ended. How many courses they added? Two? I follow videogame news daily and I didn't even know about the content they added.
Re: Kirby And The Forgotten Land Becomes The Second Best-Selling Kirby Game Ever
I still want to buy this game. Lots of other games to finish (+scarcity with Kirby for months after release with the physical version in Europe). And right now I have Xeno3 and LiveALive to finish so... yeah. But this very year I want to buy it, it looks quite fun!
Re: Nintendo Reconfirms Release Windows For Major Upcoming Switch Games
@BTB20 As of March 31 2020, the Pokemon Mistery Dungeon remake sold 1.26 million copies. As of: December 31st 2020 the game sold 1,6;M units.
Explorers of Time+Darkness sold 4.88 million (Explorers of Sky 1.49 million).
I don't know where you found that information about Pokemon Mistery Dungeon Remake, I would be happy to know that I'm wrong tho so... Show me where, please.
WarioWare GiT sold 1.27 million copies worldwide (last official numbers). WarioWare Smooth Moves sold 1.82 million copies. In this case numbers are close and GiT could have surpassed Smooth Moves with the unreported numbers, I give you that.
Re: Nintendo Has High Hopes For Nintendo Switch Sports As It Nears 5 Million Sales
@IronMan30 To add to this argument, people should also stop assuming that this model is bad by default.
Sure, it was pretty bad in Mario Golf Super Rush (honeslty, probably it's worse implementation. It was released barebones and it stopped being supported really quickly) but I think it's better implemented on games like Splatoon or even Mario Tennis Aces (yes, I think that game did it ok).
Re: Square Enix Rolls Out Chocobo GP Version 1.2.0, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
@Yosher About the Cristal Chronicles game that seems more like pure incompetence. Like, why does that game have no local coop when it was a local coop game originally? Why is the online so poorly implemented that they even removed features from the original game because they apperantly couldn't implement them all these years later? UGH.
The Chocobo game seems like both things: greed and incompetence. The fact that of all the games, this one got MTX is just so scummy. A kid focused FF spin-off game that is not F2P and is on the same platform than MK was deemed a good place to put MTX.
Re: Nintendo Reconfirms Release Windows For Major Upcoming Switch Games
@Bunkerneath 2 of these three games are published by Nintendo themselves. Or you don't count something as a "Nintendo" game unless is made by their internal devs?
Re: Nintendo Reconfirms Release Windows For Major Upcoming Switch Games
@Joker1234 And even then, Fire Emblem Awakening was the last chance of the series at the time to come back. The fact that it actually sold is what made the series successful.
Again, for every success you point out, I can say multiple that didn't do too well or even failed.
Smaller niche games that Nintendo publishes don't usually do that well. Even being subseries of popular franchises. Remember how they did Wario Ware on Switch? Or how on 3DS we got a new Rhythm Heaven game alongside a physical game of Dillon (the armadillo guy)? Remember Sushi Striker the Way of Sushido? Or the remakes of Pokemon Mystery Dungeon? (ugh... why people didn't bought more this one?)
2of this games sold ok, another sold ""ok"" and the other two were definetive flops.
Don't get me wrong, arround 1 million is a good number for these games and some get those numbers. But those are not numbers that tell to Nintendo to make those games consistently. Hence those are treated like experiments and/or just to fill calendar slots between big releases.
Like I said, there is a lot of people that scream how much FZero deserves a come back but that doesn't mean that it would sell and that is the big reason why it hasn't come back.
Sorry for all of this rambling... It's just that it angers me a little to see people clamering for a series to come back only to do poorly and then question why Nintendo "only focuseses on the same franchises" while ignoring those games were even released.
Re: Square Enix Rolls Out Chocobo GP Version 1.2.0, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
@Yosher Exact same thing happened with the Cristal Chronicles remake. In that case they made the multiplayer of a multiplayer focused game tedious...
I don't get why SquareEnix seems to fail so much recently with Final Fantasy spin-offs. Even with those that should have been easy to do.
Re: Nintendo Reconfirms Release Windows For Major Upcoming Switch Games
@GrailUK Why are selling something that is for ultra fans of Xenoblade 3 not at launch?
I guess that is an issue related to the release date of the game being earlier than expected.
Re: Nintendo Reconfirms Release Windows For Major Upcoming Switch Games
@GrailUK ...BTW, what happened with the Xenoblade 3 special edition in Europe?
Re: Nintendo Reconfirms Release Windows For Major Upcoming Switch Games
@Bunkerneath I guess Pokemon, Bayonnetta, Mario+Rabbits and Splatoon don't count?
Re: Nintendo Reconfirms Release Windows For Major Upcoming Switch Games
@Joker1234 Because new stuff and also bringing old IPs is quite risky and doesn't always work.
Sure, you can point to Splatoon. But I can also point out Codename Steam.
Like, I'm one of those people that thinks that, if Nintendo made a new FZero game, it would sell like 500k lifetime at most and people would only notice it years later when it gets the "hidden gem" status while selling poorly at the time... Oh hey, just like FZero GX.
Re: Nintendo Reconfirms Release Windows For Major Upcoming Switch Games
I don't get people saying that there apperantly aren't many Nintendo releases for this year? Like, we still have Splatoon 3, Bayonetta 3 (finally), the new Pokemon generation, Mario+Rabbits 2 and Advance Wars would probably also sneak in.
Where do you fit more games this year?
Also, this year we got another big Pokemon game in January, a 3D Kirby game in March, Xenoblade 3 like a week ago alongside smaller games like Switch Sports and Mario Strikers.
Like, I don't think this year is weak at all.
Re: UK Charts: Xenoblade Chronicles 3 Soars To Number One
Let's see if it surpasses Xenoblade 2 lifetime sales soon. Happy to see this franchise grow little by little.
Re: Nintendo Switch Sales Surpass 111 Million
Almost 5 million for Switch Sports... Huh.
Re: Square Enix Rolls Out Chocobo GP Version 1.2.0, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
It's still baffling how they ruined this game... It could have been a good Mario Kart clone but no.... It had to have MTX.
Re: Poll: What Are You Hoping To See From This Week's 'Pokémon Presents'?
@Jhena Oh my... I haven't even thought about that interpretation of Dexit.
Yes, (the article and) I was refeering to the cut of Pokemon since SWSH, not about Germany leaving the EU.
Re: Poll: What Are You Hoping To See From This Week's 'Pokémon Presents'?
@theshirecat OOOHH. I like that. As many Charizard forms as Pokemon in gen 1. That's two layers of gen 1 references.
Don't forget to ignore the other two Kanto starters tho, since those are not important compared to CHARIZARD.
Re: Poll: What Are You Hoping To See From This Week's 'Pokémon Presents'?
@theshirecat Oh? What are you saying? That you want more CHARIZARD FORMS!?
Re: Poll: What Are You Hoping To See From This Week's 'Pokémon Presents'?
@IronMan30 Great answer there!
Re: Poll: What Are You Hoping To See From This Week's 'Pokémon Presents'?
@Jhena My guess is because "Dexit" was and is a thing with Pokemon now.
Re: Poll: What Are You Hoping To See From This Week's 'Pokémon Presents'?
@spottedleaf Unfortunately, I doubt either BDSP or Arceus recieve any updates.
And (also) unfortunatelly, I think the possibilities of another Mystery Dungeon Pokemon game are slim. The remake on Switch sold ok but nothing mindblowing. And believe me, I want to be wrong about this one.
Re: Poll: What Are You Hoping To See From This Week's 'Pokémon Presents'?
@IronMan30 What? You didn't need to announce what you think other people that you don't know will say after the news either.
I just don't get it at this point.... "wow! look at all these people saying that they don't like Pokemon and critizing the games! How funny!". All of this because of what? The critism SWSH recieved almost three years ago and the need you feel to "get back at them for that"? Is that it?
Re: Poll: What Are You Hoping To See From This Week's 'Pokémon Presents'?
@Axecon I WISH we get a Pokemon Mystery Dungeon anything. Even a remake of Explorers of Sky would be amazing at this point.
Re: Poll: What Are You Hoping To See From This Week's 'Pokémon Presents'?
@AlexanderDaniels Seeing how poor BDSP were... I prefer they just left those games alone or do a Pokemon Arceus style side game with gen 2.
Re: Poll: What Are You Hoping To See From This Week's 'Pokémon Presents'?
@IronMan30 Honestly? People complaining about people complaining about Pokemon are getting annoying at this point.
They are done with Pokemon? Ok... What's the problem with that?
Re: Bandai Namco Asks Digimon Survive Players To Not Spoil The Story For Others
@GoldenSunRM I remember when they even tried to defend that and admitted that it was actually done on purpose. I wish YouTube had an actual block button at this point instead of just an "option to not reccomend this channel" that only appears sometimes.
Re: Raunchy Rhythm Title 'Massage Freaks' Delayed Indefinitely After Online Backlash
@exit Yeah, I know they didn't use the full names but, like you said, it's not that farfeched to assume who were they refeering too.
A lot of people here seem to imply that people are angry at the LEWD only but I honestly don't think that's the case and it's ignoring important context.
My opinion is that a bunch of people thought that a lewd game decided to do that was a "step too far". That and the bad timing with that incident of reported sex crimes in massage parlours in Japan arround this time makes this game look even more toxic (probably more than it actually is to be fair).
Re: Bandai Namco Asks Digimon Survive Players To Not Spoil The Story For Others
Honestly? I kinda feel bad for this game. This is the only piece of news of it I've heard about it and I read videogame news daily.
The fact that Xenoblade 3, a JRPG with much more visibility, launches on the same day it's going to basically kill a big part of it's sales at launch.
Besides, I'm still finishing Digimon Cyber Sleuth so I won't pick it up at launch despite me hearing about it for a while. I think people can imagine what JRPG I'm going to pick up this week.
Re: Raunchy Rhythm Title 'Massage Freaks' Delayed Indefinitely After Online Backlash
@exit I mean... I personally find this type of games creepy as ***. But I usually don't care to critize anything since there is some niche market that buys them and they don't seem to bother anyone.
But the fact that this game ended up having real names without concent at some point made me quite annoyed. Because the context is not the same in that regard.
Re: Raunchy Rhythm Title 'Massage Freaks' Delayed Indefinitely After Online Backlash
@PunkRx_Lockly "why can't people make lewd games and include names of people without concent? How far is the wOkE culture going to fall!?"
I want to mention the CONTEXT of the names because... you know, IT'S THE REASON WHY THIS CONTROVERSY STARTED IN THE FIRST PLACE and you didn't even bother mentioning it in your comment.
Comments like this are the worse for me in my opinion. They put all the critism in the same side. If you are a person that makes their opinion heard and say that you find what they did with this game wrong, you are just a "woke moralist". Because apperantly critism and free speach is a sin now. Because, yes, people that critize this game have free speach too.
Re: Raunchy Rhythm Title 'Massage Freaks' Delayed Indefinitely After Online Backlash
@SmaggTheSmug You yourself said that is not the case anymore in Japan tho, since the new law doesn't require the statement being false.
And, AGAIN, I'm just saying that the name thing is what started this whole thing. People saw a lewd game that "went this far" and that's what seem to put people off. Again, hundreds of lewd games on the eShop with no controversy.
Re: Raunchy Rhythm Title 'Massage Freaks' Delayed Indefinitely After Online Backlash
@SmaggTheSmug And how do you distinct "right to express opinions freely" and "destroy someone's reputation"? Is me saying that the fact they even considered using real names in a game like this kinda creepy one thing or the other? How do you tell one or the other? How do you know the opinions and intentions of everyone that critized this game?
Also "The developers changed the names so it would be weird if they sued over this. Ergo, the names aren't the issue."?... Like, sure, legally they are fine now with the names (even though you could actually make the argument that using their names at one had "damage those people's reputations"... but whatever).
But that wasn't the point. We are talking here about the reasons why people felt the need to critize this. That reason being because a lewd game went to the lengths to include real names at one point and people thought that was too far for a game like this.
The fact that they changed the name (after the backlash started) and the fact that there are different things legally doesn't change this.
Again, why hundreds of lewd games on the eShop didn't get any controversy but this one does. What is the difference?
Also, I literally answer to your comments. I implied your opinions on this matter from here. If you have any concrete opinion about this whole thing say it clearly instead of using a fancy word to try to invalidate my comments.
Re: Raunchy Rhythm Title 'Massage Freaks' Delayed Indefinitely After Online Backlash
@SmaggTheSmug Ugh...
I assumed the backlash was not only because of the lewd part due to the high quantity of lewd games released with no controversy, I then looked the differences between those games and this one. How do you explain this situation? You still haven't done that.
Also, sure, they can sue Japanese people that critize their desition. But the thing here is, I thought all the Japanese people are a monolith that are all against these desition. That's what some people in this very comment section insist after all.
Although, to be fair, it was wrong to assume you also meant that. I'm used to all the people using the buzzwords you used to think the "evil west" are all "puritan SJW" and Japan is all "anti censhorship".
And, yes, this could very well be a free speach issue. Is a company going after people that complain about their product online a good thing? Could that get repercutions in the future? When is complaining free speach and when is "defamation"? I don't get why are you insinuating this has nothing to do with free speach.
And apperantly all my opinions are invalid because I used "consider if...". And you apperantly didn't?
Ok... Who are all those "SJW"? Do you have proof of that backlash? Do you have proof that backlash was exclusivly due to the lewd part and not related at all to the fact they used real names at one point? Do you know the actual position of all of the people that complained about this? Do you have proof of the nationality of the people that the company is targeting? Do you have proof that backlash was enough to be defamation therefore not being protected by free speach rights? If you don't, then you are also using "consider if...".
And finally, I assumed your position because of what you said here. But if I'm wrong I'd be more than happy to know what is your actual position on the issue.
Re: Raunchy Rhythm Title 'Massage Freaks' Delayed Indefinitely After Online Backlash
@SmaggTheSmug You didn't even bother to answer anything I said in my last comment. You just said that I was wrong because yes.
What falsehoods I said?
That the context of being a lewd game that used real life people name makes it worse and that trying to separate those two things is just wrong since you are ignoring important context?
That people are not complaining the lewdness itself since there are hundreds of those games on the eShop that got 0 controversy?
You seem to be incapable to consider that it's the context of this lewd game having the "great" desition to use real life names that created all of this BUT that doesn't mean people are complaining the lewdness itself since, again, plenty of lewd games exist with 0 controversy.
The last point is why I mentioned that the lewd was not the thing people were complaining about but you seem to be using that phrase in order to accuse me of "moving goalpoasts" despite not doing that at all. Again, the lewd was not the main issue here. I don't even know how many times I have to say it.
To me, tt seems those two things HAVE to be separate according to you in order to accuse people of being "too puritan" instead of them probably just being weirded out that a lewd game went to that extreme (or at the very least, it is how I still feel about all of this).
Re: Raunchy Rhythm Title 'Massage Freaks' Delayed Indefinitely After Online Backlash
@SmaggTheSmug I'm going to repeat myself again it seems since you seem to only read what you want from my comments. Yes, the main problem with this game is NOT THE LEWD. If that were the case, how is it that dozens of lewd japaniese games release on the eShop weekly with almost zero controversy? What the lewd is here is the context that makes the situation worse.
Why are you trying so desperatly to separate the two things when those two are obviously related? People are complaining that a game that is about giving "massages" to woman used real names without concent. That's why the lewd comes up in the critism, because it gives more context about why this situation was in poor taste.
Because, yes, using real names in a game does not always give the same impression. If real names were used in a fechquest of a JRPG then the context would be different. There also are other cases were that could be problematic like using real names of living people in a shooter. Context matters. And I don't think I have "no point at all" for saying that.
Re: Raunchy Rhythm Title 'Massage Freaks' Delayed Indefinitely After Online Backlash
@drewber2635 Because the devs used real people names without concent on the game at one point. The article itself points that out.
Re: Raunchy Rhythm Title 'Massage Freaks' Delayed Indefinitely After Online Backlash
@Paradigm Repeating the same thing twice doesn't make it true.
And do you know personally every single person of Japan or something? Seriously, What is with this mentality some people have of Japan? Sorry to burst your bubble, but there are a bunch of people there and not everyone thinks like you.
Assuming every single dissident is from the "puritan west" or from "extremist groups" also seems kinda stupid. I think what they did by putting real names on a game like this without concent was in very poor taste, does that make me an "extrimist" too?
Edit: Also, just realized... You created an account JUST NOW. Huh...
Re: Feature: Dynamax Ain’t That Bad - Pokemon’s Recent Battle Mechanics Ranked
I know some people feel the need to defend dynamax by saying over and over how "actually, it's not that bad" or "megas are bad too". But, to be honest, my biggest issue with dynamax is how it throw out all the designs of megas for something that is very similar.
All the mega designs are still innaccesible in modern games. That, to me, is the worse thing about this desition of having shallow one game gimmicks. They could improve the megas and make them more balanced for competitive, but they decided to ignore they ever existed and created a very similar mechanic instead.
And it doesn't matter that some people like Dynamax and Gigantamax more, because all the designs of Gigantamax and strategy of Dynamax only lasts one game.
Re: Raunchy Rhythm Title 'Massage Freaks' Delayed Indefinitely After Online Backlash
@SmaggTheSmug Why did they said stuff like "promote rape culture" or "is similar to assault in massage parlors" in particular? Maybe because it used real names at one point? Like it or not, that's why the controversy started. If that wasn't the case, it'd just be another lewd japaniese game on the Switch's eShop. And sure, it should have stopped when they removed the names but you should know that (unfortunately) that's not how the internet works.
Also, I'm sorry to say plenty of pro-free speech arguments are against defamation laws. There are plenty of people who believe free speach should be absolute (and others that agree with them until they see the effects against them...). I don't know what your exact opinion is about free speech since I don't personally know you but your entire point of "these people wanted consequences for speach and I'm happy if THEY get them" gave me bad vives.
And, again, if you aren't in favour of a particular law, why are you celebrating that law being used? Becase it is being used on "the people who deserve it"? In my opinion, that's hypocritical. If you truly are against a law then any application of it should be bad, right?
Also, if a Japaniese company is trying to sue a US citizen, they would have to do it on US courts using US law (being federal and/or state specific). It doesn't matter that the company *suing them are from Japan.
Re: Raunchy Rhythm Title 'Massage Freaks' Delayed Indefinitely After Online Backlash
@SmaggTheSmug Defamation and censorship are different things but censhorship can happen due to defamaiton lawsuits.
Again, this was the argument people like you used right until someone use it against people you don't seem to like much.
Btw, yes, the company changed the names... after the backlash that you don't seem to like much happened.
Also, again, you call out "EsJeDovelwus" for defending "consequences for speach" while now applauding those consecuences being a thing? Are you in favour of that or not? or your only opinion is whatever goes against a strawmanned version of people that think differently than you?
Also, yes, a Japan company can sue an american user. But, as you said, it'd use Amercan law, meaning the new Japan law is not in effect here.
Re: Raunchy Rhythm Title 'Massage Freaks' Delayed Indefinitely After Online Backlash
@Frdmman Do you know the issue in particular is not that the game is lewd, right? I say this because the issue is right on the article and is not that.
Re: Raunchy Rhythm Title 'Massage Freaks' Delayed Indefinitely After Online Backlash
@SmaggTheSmug First of all, I'm going to repeat what I said in my previous comment (with more detail, of course).
That law is a defamation law that explicitly said that defimation can happen even when the ones doing it are saying the truth. And a bunch of people (including ones that usually are all against "censhorship in anime") voiced their reservations. Now, the same people are applauding using that law because it goes against the people they hate. I just found this hypocritical.
Btw I'm not strawmanning here. You yourself implied that "speach having consequences" was a "SJW" thing but when "the other side" does it it's suddently ok? Why? Because "they deserve it"? THAT'S what I find hypocritical.
What if people actually use the same law to sue the videogame developers because they argue that using their names caused damage to their image? Because they actually can do that too.
Also, that law is a Japan law, meaning it's exclusive to Japan. Good luck trying to sue random oversea users that apperantly are the culprits of this (becasue obviously noone in Japan got angry because of this, despite the incident mentioned here taking place in Japan, since everyone in Japan thinks just like you imagine they do).
Oh and it seems you are bringing all the typical boogieman buzzwords. "SJW", "political correctness"... Why stop there? At least include "woke", that one is a classic.
I also want to remind you about the reason why this game got critism. Because it used REAL NAMES without consent for woman put in implied sexual positions. THE ISSUE HERE IS NOT THE SEXUAL CONTENT. Noone here is stopping the constant flow of lewd games on Switch.
Edit: (maybe putting this would also allow people from Nintendo Life not removing my comment due to being "off topic")
Re: Raunchy Rhythm Title 'Massage Freaks' Delayed Indefinitely After Online Backlash
@SmaggTheSmug Did you use "SJW" unironically? Amazing... Totally unbiased there. People complaining about the devs using real people names (without concent) in a lewd game released arround recent reported sex crimes in massage parlours in Japan coming to light are apperantly being unreasonable here.
Also, I'm going to repeat your point again: "but the evil SJW like this law so it's fine if someone, who rejected it before due to concerns about free speach, use it now".
I'm sorry but, seeing this arguments, I end up doubting their defense of free speach is actually genuine. It seems it was just due to pointless online battles against strawmanned versions of people that disagree with them.
Re: Raunchy Rhythm Title 'Massage Freaks' Delayed Indefinitely After Online Backlash
@Doomcrow Have you read the article or are you deliveratly ignoring details to "win" the argument? Here:
"(...) folks were quick to take note of the game's depiction of women and the apparent similarity to reported sex crimes in massage parlours in Japan. Specifically, it was noticed that the in-game characters shared the same forenames as members of the Japanese idol group 'Hinatazaka46'."
There are plenty of lewd games on the eShop. This game used names of actual people after the recent reported sex crimes in massage parlours in Japan. The context here matters.
Re: Raunchy Rhythm Title 'Massage Freaks' Delayed Indefinitely After Online Backlash
@SmaggTheSmug Weird... I thought "free speach, anti-censorship advocates" were against that law? I guess it's not the case when it benefits them.
Also, are they going to sue oversees people that complain too. Could I get sued because I dared to say something they did was in poor taste? So much for free speach I guess.
Edit: Also, I want to remind they used real names from real people on their games. Maybe other people were thinking on suing here... Just saying.
Re: Fall Guys Event 'Clan Of Yeetus' Starts This Week
I honestly enjoyed Fall Guys much more that what I expected. Playing with some friends was a really good time too.
I don't know how much would last but I'm even considering buying the battle pass for the first season at the very least. I don't think I'll regret it seeing the hours that I put into it.
Re: Random: Lucas Pope Jokes About Papers, Please Coming To Consoles In "2031"
Now that I think about it... It's odd how this game still hasn't come to console seeing how "old" it is. Like, sure, he is just one person. But, seeing the success of his game, I thought some published approached him already.