When are developers going to learn, no online is no bueno. Don't put a game on a system unless you give it the same treatment it gets on other systems. This was the problem with most the games at 3DS launch, the problem with Blazblue Continuum Shift 2, the problem with WWE Allstars, and plenty of other games that could of been much MUCH better. Even Starfox, while not bad, could of been much better with the inclusion of online multiplayer. Go all out or don't go at all.
Good article, very glad I went back and read it. I'm really looking forward to seeing what all Nintendo does in 2012 as it seems they have the most to gain and to lose, just like before the Wii launched. I'm not too excited for the Wii U, yet, but I'm very interested to seeing the final product, in system software, and the games.
As for 3DS, I'm hoping to hear about to tons of localization stuff and hoping to see good western developed games.
I have yet to play an Ace Combat game but I had a friend who loved them. Was considering of picking this up because I haven't played any flight sims in a while now. Looks like I'll have to now
To be completely honest, I'm not looking forward to the next generation and I'm not really excited for the next generation. I mean this generation, we got so much. It wasn't just new graphics, it was storage, media centers, old games from previous generations, new ways to play, downloadable specific games, retail game downloads, movie rentals, AND THEN the new generation of games. I feel like this next generation, it's looking to be just more of the same rather then a lot of true blue new and I don't see myself jumping any hoops and bounds to get the new consoles from any of the 3 companies. Even if some of the games look absolutely amazing, unless I see more, my approach will likely be much slower to adopt the new hardware.
And of course, most the editorials other then Nintendo specific sites (like this one) won't catch this and will still keep righting really bad misinformed articles bashing the 3DS. Good news, even with all the stupidity being said about the 3DS and Nintendo, Nintendo's still laying the smackdown. 2012 is going to be a fantastic year!
Its really frustrating that VGChartz doesn't have the hardware total to date for the 3DS listed. With that said, I'm glad to see it back on track. Also I'd like to note that this past week, according to VGChartz, 3DS sold 1,490,572 units globally.
I really could care less either way as long as more Zelda's come and they don't stray so far from what made Zelda good that they're no longer Zelda (like Final Fantasy)
Those are some nice sales figures. Glad Nintendo is back on track and I'm loving the direction they're going with the 3DS's online! Can't wait to play more games that take advantage of the online, like RE: Revelations and Heroes of Ruin.
Honestly, way too many games came out all at once. A lot of them are games that would make big sales or sell the same no matter when they came out. Also across all systems, some of these games would of sold a lot more IF they dropped in the summer aka the driest drought for games I can ever recall.
I'm happy to see them dedicated! Any MH game that comes to my region on a system I own with online, I'll gladly pick up! MH4 and Tri G both look awesome!
This was a good read and really made me start thinking of the many games I still have to beat and the tons and tons of games from wiiware, vc, and retail that I still want.
Honestly, like both PS3 and 360, there's a lot of gaming to be had with this console. It's really going to be hard to move forward with game consoles after this considering this generation, between the 3 systems, you get so much bang for your buck. Seriously though, I can play so many games between the 3 consoles from previous generations and have such a huge selection of games available to me through both retail and downloadable markets, it will be extremely hard to justify a purchase of new consoles.
Talking about Nintendo's future and the last bit towards the end. I honestly don't think it was the systems graphical capabilities, controls, or lack of HD that disappointed the bulk of western gamers in terms of the Wii. I think it was things more like:
The lack of online at launch (Redsteel sold well but lack of online killed the interest)
Tedious friends lists via friend codes (people hate them but ESPECIALLY hated how each online game required a new set of them)
Laggy online play (this hurt what could of been killer titles like Smash Bros Brawl and Tatsunoko vs Capcom)
Lack of online play in Virtual Console games
Lack of voice chat or communication in general in the majority of online games
Wiispeak (yes we have a headset now but Wiispeak drove people away)
Lack of demo's (demo's are few and far between for select WiiWare games, they get taken off the network over time, and there are no demo's for VC and retail games)
Not being able to see friends online or use Mii's to represent you virtually
Lack of network patches (this has changed for new shooters however it took way too long to get here and hurt some games that ultimately did have game breaking glitches)
Tedious online shopping experience (Wiishop has no videos, pictures can't be expanded, no user ratings and in order to see all of that you, had to go in the Nintendo Channel which btw didn't arrive on the seen till Wii's midlife)
Not being able to invite your friends to online games
And many other problems revolving around online.
Thing is, the majority of these complaints have been fixed with the 3DS. Personally, the way I see it, if the Kinect can grab a chunk of the casual audience, the Wii U and the 3DS can grab a good chunk of core or rather mainstream audience. With greatly improved online in the 3DS and the highly hyped up online of the Wii U by both developers and publishers, you can expect to see both systems grab a good portion of that competitive online gaming and core crowd.
@28 Most CoD's are just ports of the same game though if they were to put one on the 3DS it'll look a lot better then the Wii's (better shaders and lighting especially). Also you can actually expect dlc, patches when needed (I know BO and MW3 can patch when needed but others can't), and over all more support from Activision. Not to mention the 3DS has a built in mic that they'll probably end up using and easier to use friends list offering better online options for all players then the Wii version.
I am interested in the attachment however using separate batteries for it kind of ruins it for me. At the same time I hope to see strong support for the second analog so when there is a system redesign, it comes with the second analog.
@123 When the system launched it was without the net browser, eShop, Nintendo Video (and other video sources depending on location) as well as we've gotten Excite Bike 3D, LoZ 4 Swords Anniversary and the NES games so far. Not too long from now we'll be getting the ability to communicate (via swapnote), jump into game sessions with friends, the ability to download demo's for games, the GBA games, and other features.
Not that everything I mentioned will appeal to everyone however its a whole lot better then what the system was at launch, though honestly everything they're doing should of been there from day 1.
Well, I do agree that 3DS has been getting some major major upgrades and things that it greatly needed though most of what has come was expected at launch. The good news is, it will be here in time for the holidays and be a nice welcoming treat for new 3DS owners. Not to mention the GBA games are still on the way and will be a nice and welcome addition for early adopters.
On the case of the Wii, I dunno. They seem to be looking over the biggest market (NA) when it comes to game releases. After saying that they want to do more for the core and make their next home console be more of a core system, the way they're currently treating core gamers in NA won't win them any popularity contests or help sell their next system. Then again, I think region locking is dumb and also greatly believe if you release in 1 region, you release it in all regions. Don't try to dictate what gamers like or stereotype gamers depending on where they're located. Just because I'm in the US doesn't mean I don't like RPG's and just because a gamer is in Japan doesn't mean they don't like FPS's. Taste in games isn't dictated by race, sex, or nationality and shouldn't be thought to by publishers, it comes down to the individual - just like other forms of entertainment.
If it will only support 1 controller then they'll need to have a very VERY strong online. However even with a strong online, the more controllers the better.
If you really want to revitalize the 3DS, just coming out with new game genre's won't cut it. More and more people are getting connected with their games. Start pushing for strong online multiplayer components (like Heroes of Ruin)
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Re: Nicalis: "The eShop Has Turned Things Around for Nintendo"
This is actually how I feel on the eShop. It's a huge improvement over DSi's store and Wii's store and it seems the bar on quality is being raised.
Re: Ono and Harada Keep Scrapping in Tekken 3D Trailer
Absolutely hysterical! This actually makes me want the game now!
Re: Rayman Origins 3DS Has No Multiplayer
When are developers going to learn, no online is no bueno. Don't put a game on a system unless you give it the same treatment it gets on other systems. This was the problem with most the games at 3DS launch, the problem with Blazblue Continuum Shift 2, the problem with WWE Allstars, and plenty of other games that could of been much MUCH better. Even Starfox, while not bad, could of been much better with the inclusion of online multiplayer. Go all out or don't go at all.
Re: Brighten Up Your Day with Colors! 3D Screenshots
Very cool! I'll be getting this day 1!
Re: Operation Rainfall Takes Aim at The Last Story
@Daisaku36
Completely agree. I'll also be chiming in!
Re: Rumour: Wii U "Twice as Powerful as Xbox 360"
These "power" rumors are face palming bad. They don't add up at all.
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To add to this, who really cares how much power the new systems have? If power is that big of a deal, wouldn't we all be gaming on PC only?
Re: Review: Gaia's Moon (DSiWare)
never heard of it but for 200 points you can't go wrong
Re: North America Gets 3DS eShop Demo Tomorrow
yeeeeesssss
Re: Round Table: Looking Ahead to Nintendo in 2012
Good article, very glad I went back and read it. I'm really looking forward to seeing what all Nintendo does in 2012 as it seems they have the most to gain and to lose, just like before the Wii launched. I'm not too excited for the Wii U, yet, but I'm very interested to seeing the final product, in system software, and the games.
As for 3DS, I'm hoping to hear about to tons of localization stuff and hoping to see good western developed games.
Re: Review: The Kore Gang (Wii)
That's a bit disappointing. This game had been in development for a while, had a good art style, and had some potential.
Re: Review: Ace Combat: Assault Horizon Legacy (3DS)
I have yet to play an Ace Combat game but I had a friend who loved them. Was considering of picking this up because I haven't played any flight sims in a while now. Looks like I'll have to now
Re: Rumour: Wii U Heading for E3 Face-Off with PS4 and Xbox 720
To be completely honest, I'm not looking forward to the next generation and I'm not really excited for the next generation. I mean this generation, we got so much. It wasn't just new graphics, it was storage, media centers, old games from previous generations, new ways to play, downloadable specific games, retail game downloads, movie rentals, AND THEN the new generation of games. I feel like this next generation, it's looking to be just more of the same rather then a lot of true blue new and I don't see myself jumping any hoops and bounds to get the new consoles from any of the 3 companies. Even if some of the games look absolutely amazing, unless I see more, my approach will likely be much slower to adopt the new hardware.
Re: Icon Games: "Nintendo's Policies Put Jobs at Risk"
Hmmmmm... I dont want to sound mean but I couldn't seem myself getting this game.
Re: Resident Evil: Revelations Demo on the Way
I'm going to really be looking forward to it! I've been wanting to check this game out for a while now!
Re: Nintendo Download: 5th January 2012 (North America)
@zionich
Me too, I really would like some demos!
Re: Millions of Wii Games Pirated in 2011
I'm frustrated but I know I made my vote. Got my copy of Xenoblade reserved!
Re: Feature: The Biggest 3DS Games of 2012
3DS is getting A LOT of good games. I'm looking forward to the systems future!
Re: Icon Games Breaks WiiWare Sales Figures Silence
Those are pretty bad numbers
Re: Millions of Wii Games Pirated in 2011
Thats frustrating.... 950,000 potential missed sales for Xenoblade..... argh...
Re: 3DS Hits 4 Million Console Sales in United States
And of course, most the editorials other then Nintendo specific sites (like this one) won't catch this and will still keep righting really bad misinformed articles bashing the 3DS. Good news, even with all the stupidity being said about the 3DS and Nintendo, Nintendo's still laying the smackdown. 2012 is going to be a fantastic year!
Re: 3DS to Hit 4 Million Sold in Japan Sooner Than Expected
Its really frustrating that VGChartz doesn't have the hardware total to date for the 3DS listed. With that said, I'm glad to see it back on track. Also I'd like to note that this past week, according to VGChartz, 3DS sold 1,490,572 units globally.
Re: 3 Heroes - Crystal Soul is CIRCLE's First Game of 2012
@tendoboy1984
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Clancy%27s_Endwar
Re: Square Enix Announces Kingdom Hearts 3D for the West
Very nice! I'm glad they're showing support for the fans and bringing this one over. Can't wait to see how it turns out
Re: Review: Metroid Fusion (3DS Virtual Console / Game Boy Advance)
When the server goes down for SW:TOR or I get booted off and have to relog, this is the game that I play while waiting. Thank you so much Nintendo!
Re: Nintendo Has These Wii Games Planned for Early 2012
I wish NOA was more open like this.
Re: Review: The Hidden (3DS)
Looks like Santa has a new digital version of "a lump of coal" he'll be giving out this year!
Re: Aonuma: "Future Zelda Games Will Use Motion Controls"
I really could care less either way as long as more Zelda's come and they don't stray so far from what made Zelda good that they're no longer Zelda (like Final Fantasy)
Re: Nintendo Crows About November Sales for Wii and 3DS
Those are some nice sales figures. Glad Nintendo is back on track and I'm loving the direction they're going with the 3DS's online! Can't wait to play more games that take advantage of the online, like RE: Revelations and Heroes of Ruin.
Re: Talking Point: The Overcrowded Holiday Release Schedule
Honestly, way too many games came out all at once. A lot of them are games that would make big sales or sell the same no matter when they came out. Also across all systems, some of these games would of sold a lot more IF they dropped in the summer aka the driest drought for games I can ever recall.
Re: 3DS Firmware Update Available Now
Im feeling the new features! Lovin the new update
Re: Capcom Committed to Monster Hunter in the West
I'm happy to see them dedicated! Any MH game that comes to my region on a system I own with online, I'll gladly pick up! MH4 and Tri G both look awesome!
Re: Code of Princess is a 3DS RPG From the Guardian Heroes Team
This one is lookin awesome! Can't wait to play it!
Re: It's Official: Xenoblade Chronicles is Coming to North America
I'm really excited right now!
Re: Feature: The Revolution of the Wii
This was a good read and really made me start thinking of the many games I still have to beat and the tons and tons of games from wiiware, vc, and retail that I still want.
Honestly, like both PS3 and 360, there's a lot of gaming to be had with this console. It's really going to be hard to move forward with game consoles after this considering this generation, between the 3 systems, you get so much bang for your buck. Seriously though, I can play so many games between the 3 consoles from previous generations and have such a huge selection of games available to me through both retail and downloadable markets, it will be extremely hard to justify a purchase of new consoles.
Re: Round Table: Let’s Talk About the GameCube and Wii
Talking about Nintendo's future and the last bit towards the end. I honestly don't think it was the systems graphical capabilities, controls, or lack of HD that disappointed the bulk of western gamers in terms of the Wii. I think it was things more like:
Thing is, the majority of these complaints have been fixed with the 3DS. Personally, the way I see it, if the Kinect can grab a chunk of the casual audience, the Wii U and the 3DS can grab a good chunk of core or rather mainstream audience. With greatly improved online in the 3DS and the highly hyped up online of the Wii U by both developers and publishers, you can expect to see both systems grab a good portion of that competitive online gaming and core crowd.
Re: Reggie: "Mobile Games Would Go Against Our Beliefs"
Mobile games would go against our beliefs.... kind of the same way as bringing high quality japanese RPG's to North America does.....
Re: Review: Super Mario 3D Land (3DS)
I want this game so bad now but unfortunately I don't have money for it. I'll have to get it after the fact.
Re: Talking Point: First-Person Shooters and the 3DS Circle Pad Pro
@28 Most CoD's are just ports of the same game though if they were to put one on the 3DS it'll look a lot better then the Wii's (better shaders and lighting especially). Also you can actually expect dlc, patches when needed (I know BO and MW3 can patch when needed but others can't), and over all more support from Activision. Not to mention the 3DS has a built in mic that they'll probably end up using and easier to use friends list offering better online options for all players then the Wii version.
Re: Talking Point: First-Person Shooters and the 3DS Circle Pad Pro
I am interested in the attachment however using separate batteries for it kind of ruins it for me. At the same time I hope to see strong support for the second analog so when there is a system redesign, it comes with the second analog.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Plans to Fight Back
@123 When the system launched it was without the net browser, eShop, Nintendo Video (and other video sources depending on location) as well as we've gotten Excite Bike 3D, LoZ 4 Swords Anniversary and the NES games so far. Not too long from now we'll be getting the ability to communicate (via swapnote), jump into game sessions with friends, the ability to download demo's for games, the GBA games, and other features.
Not that everything I mentioned will appeal to everyone however its a whole lot better then what the system was at launch, though honestly everything they're doing should of been there from day 1.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Plans to Fight Back
Well, I do agree that 3DS has been getting some major major upgrades and things that it greatly needed though most of what has come was expected at launch. The good news is, it will be here in time for the holidays and be a nice welcoming treat for new 3DS owners. Not to mention the GBA games are still on the way and will be a nice and welcome addition for early adopters.
On the case of the Wii, I dunno. They seem to be looking over the biggest market (NA) when it comes to game releases. After saying that they want to do more for the core and make their next home console be more of a core system, the way they're currently treating core gamers in NA won't win them any popularity contests or help sell their next system. Then again, I think region locking is dumb and also greatly believe if you release in 1 region, you release it in all regions. Don't try to dictate what gamers like or stereotype gamers depending on where they're located. Just because I'm in the US doesn't mean I don't like RPG's and just because a gamer is in Japan doesn't mean they don't like FPS's. Taste in games isn't dictated by race, sex, or nationality and shouldn't be thought to by publishers, it comes down to the individual - just like other forms of entertainment.
Re: Nintendo Working On Two Controller Support for Wii U
If it will only support 1 controller then they'll need to have a very VERY strong online. However even with a strong online, the more controllers the better.
Re: Nintendo Developing New Game Genres to Revitalise 3DS
If you really want to revitalize the 3DS, just coming out with new game genre's won't cut it. More and more people are getting connected with their games. Start pushing for strong online multiplayer components (like Heroes of Ruin)
Re: Go Beyond the Labyrinth With New 3D Screenshots
I want this game.
Re: Monster Hunter 3G Definitely Doesn't Have Online Play
Its settled, if it does get released elsewhere I won't be getting it. Heroes of Ruin, here I come!
Re: Review: Spider-Man: Edge of Time (3DS)
Wish they took more time with Spiderman games to release quality experiences....
Re: Review: Spider-Man: Edge of Time (Wii)
Wow, the Wii version is better then the 3DS version? Not sure if I should be surprised here but I was expecting it to be vice versa.
Re: Brand New Nano Assault Gameplay Trailer
This game look like a lot of fun. <3 Shin'en
Re: Resident Evil Revelations Comes Loaded with Multiplayer
This game is looking good
Re: Get the Job You Always Wanted in Fantasy Life for 3DS
This looks very awesome.