Yeah, but the reason Ninty can't get Yoshi's Island on the VC is due to the fact that they can't get the Super FX chip emulation sorted. Get the GBA copy instead.
I'm not caught in the Epic Mickey hype, so I'm going to be avoiding the release altogether. Besides, I need to save my money for the Halo Reach Legendary edition.
I'm a completionist, so I don't mind achievements as long as they're not too hard to get.
It annoys me that I only have 10G in GoW (since a mate played it on my console) and 80G in Game Room (I downloaded it since I thought, because it was free, no achievements. You can probably tell how much I raged when that 5G - Show Me! achievement popped up).
As long as they keep Luke's UK voice actor, I'll be happy.
@6
They must have done. If you listen carefully, sometimes you can hear that some of the spoken dialogue referring to Pandora's Box is a very slightly different tone to some that doesn't make such references, indicating that it wasn't recorded at the same time.
I'm not going to hype myself too much (just in case) but I am going to say that these look promising. The DS version is probably guaranteed to be good, since it is essentially Sonic Rush 3.
The annoying thing about flipnote studio is that, when viewing via my DS, I can't see any flipnotes that aren't European, even if I have my preferences on the site set to worldwide.
The way it works for us is, because they tend to include multiple languages on one Wii/DS game, we have to wait whilst on the translations, whilst we (more often than not) still get the unlocalised American English version. At the end of the day, they are two different languages (e.g. did you know there are over 4000 words used everyday in AmEnglish that have no meaning whatsoever in BrEnglish? I was pretty confused the first time someone asked if I liked rutabaga). Not to mention there are some pretty big grammatical differences. Ultimately the meaning is conveyed, but still some dialogue will still will sound strange or make little to even no sense.
I'm not going to lie guys, but these are some seriously good arguments you're all coming up with here. I would type a longer comment but I'm shattered after 9 hours of farm work, so cba.
Well, obviously there’s a certain scope of stuff you can do within reason. I mean, go ahead and use your DS as a doorstop if you want (I recommend the old brick DS ).
What I mean is that there are limits as to what you can legally and morally use your console for before you start getting into grey territory. For example, just because you bought yourself a shiny new camcorder doesn’t mean you can go and record your favourite movie down at your local cinema. Just because you bought a pack of cigarettes on a plane doesn’t mean you can smoke them straight away. Being the owner of something doesn’t give you the instant right to use it however you want. There are laws and morals that direct you to use it correctly.
Unfortunately, unless you can afford the ~$3000 dev kit for a DS, it’s not really a unit for indie development. That sort of role is filled by the iPod. The DS is more of a dedicated console. You’ve purchased a Nintendo device primarily to play Nintendo content. Therefore, Nintendo will ultimately control what happens with that content, whether you like it or not. Me? I think it’s fair enough.
And with regards to the 5 year old girl, why would you even begin to think she bought all of her games? In today’s economic climate, mum and dad would find it easier and cheaper to just download x number of games onto a memory card. Mum and dad save money, small girl gets to play lots of games. Win win for them.
This is like comparing apples to oranges. Computers and DSes are completely different when it comes to the software that is permitted to run on them. Computers are open ended enough that anyone with the skill can develop for them and then distribute the application, and some OSes (like Linux) even encourage the changing of the OS code itself. The DS on the other hand is a specific system designed to play specific games. When you buy a DS, you accept the fact that the system will only be able to legally run whatever Nintendo permits to be released. This is one of the implications of console gaming that I accept, and I suppose that I even take for granted. Whilst there are many missing features, such as a Virtual Console of some sort or the ability to copy all my games to one cart or the system itself, it’s a compromise that I have little problems with in exchange for having the ability to play the fantastic software available for the system, and I am more than willing to hand over my hard earned cash to the deserving developer for his/her work.
It winds me up when the homebrew community kick up a fuss about these sort of acts “stifling innovation” because the DS isn’t designed as a hobby tool to develop for. I’m not saying that homebrewers are criminals, but piracy prevention often has to hit hombrewers as well because both groups often use the same exploits to get stuff running on the system, regardless of whether the intent is harmful or not. At the end of the day, Nintendo is a business, and will want to protect its assets from piracy which could (and has) cause massive monetary losses in the industry. People need to realise that Nintendo’s priorities lies with protecting the industry from the damage caused by pirates, not making sure that little Timmy can continue to tinker with his R4 at the expense of millions of dollars worth of losses to the games industry. That’s business, and it suck; man up.
And returning to the point about “stifling innovation”, have you ever heard of a DS game called “Maestro: Jump in Music”? It never really was released in large quantities in Europe, and it appears piracy had some sort of role in that. Here’s a quote from a news article on their site:
“The consequences are simple, we are forced to keep making games for others, Baby games, teddy bear and pony games to survive, and we won’t be able to create new and original games for players to enjoy.”
The article does make for an interesting read, as the consequences of piracy comes right from the developer’s mouth. The article can be found here:
Sorry homebrewers, but measures such as these make perfect and logical sense to me. Please do continue to discuss, since I do enjoy bouncing these ideas around. But here’s my initial opinion anyway.
@theblackdragon
Nah, ROM dumps like this are illegal. Here:
“Game copiers that are used to copy video game software without authorization onto any type of memory device or the hard drive of a personal computer are illegal.”
So even if they are simply used for the purpose of backing up an original game, it’s still an unauthorised copy, hence illegal.
@Maka
I think the ban applies to “game copiers” in general, not just the R4.
Again, computers are designed to have added functionality incorporated by programs. The problem here is that, whilst people will have good intentions and say “oh, I can add this, this and that” people will mainly use R4-esque units for the purpose of playing pirated games. Sat on the bus not too long ago, I saw a small girl of only about 5 playing on her DS and, lo and behold, a flashcart was nestled in the card slot. Your average mum and dad who are probably not too hot with computers beyond word processing and internet browsing, so if they can pirate ROMS with just a quick google search, then Nintendo have a massive problem on their hands; they could easily lose large chunks of the market they themselves have converted to gaming. It’s this they need to protect against, and homebrewers are the casualties.
It continues to annoy me how they act all-hard-done-by though, since at the end of the day the DS is not designed with homebrew development in mind. You’re complaining about losing something that was never supposed to happen in the first place. It’s like if you find a wallet full of cash; you shouldn’t have it, but when someone tries to take it away you kick up a fuss. What did you expect?
And the solution to the availability of poor apps? Spend your money on real games and apps without pirating them, and then it shows what people want.
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Re: Step to the Beat of the Lilt Line Website
Looks good, but I'm not so sure on the soundtrack.
I want one of their BIT.TRIP shirts though.
Re: King Dedede Returns in Latest Kirby's Epic Yarn Trailer
Never played a Kirby game before. That could change come 2011 though...
Re: Super Scribblenauts' D-Pad Controls are Thanks to You, Hardcore Gamers
@Digiki
That's what I've been lead to believe anyway. =/
Re: Super Scribblenauts' D-Pad Controls are Thanks to You, Hardcore Gamers
@PunnyGuy
Yeah, but the reason Ninty can't get Yoshi's Island on the VC is due to the fact that they can't get the Super FX chip emulation sorted. Get the GBA copy instead.
Re: Telltale Jolts Us with 1.21 Gigowatts of Back to the Future Character Art
It's not Bieber. Thank god.
Re: Super Scribblenauts' D-Pad Controls are Thanks to You, Hardcore Gamers
Gotta thank the devs for doing this though. It'll make their game much nicer to play.
Re: Review: Metroid: Other M (Wii)
Great read. I've never really gotten into a Metroid game myself, but I might persuade my brother to pick it up and have a go using his copy.
Re: Atari's Greatest Hits Hitting the DS in November
What, No E.T.?
Re: Epic Mickey Gets Collectable with Special Edition
I'm not caught in the Epic Mickey hype, so I'm going to be avoiding the release altogether. Besides, I need to save my money for the Halo Reach Legendary edition.
Re: Cave Story Remixed Soundtrack Released
Downloading now. Might be worth a listen.
Re: Super Meat Boy Should be on the WiiWare Menu Soon
@Swiket
Epic reference.
Re: Super Meat Boy Should be on the WiiWare Menu Soon
But they can't have Mr Video on XBLA! He's a WiiWare hero. OUR hero.
Re: Super Meat Boy Should be on the WiiWare Menu Soon
So if I love the challenge of Bit Trip, should I get this?
(Really I just want it to play as chibi Commander Video)
Re: Show Your Love of Super Mario Bros. by Wearing It on Your Sleeve
I want pics for posterity if you do that Corbie.
Re: Wii Party Could be One of Nintendo's Top Earners
This game looks to me like the spiritual successor to Mario Party 8. Speaking of which, I wonder when we are going to see Mario Party 9?
Re: BIT.TRIP FATE Teaser Image Released
Thanks Corbs, looks great as my background now!
Re: BIT.TRIP FATE Teaser Image Released
I can't even see CommanderVideo...
And people keep saying insta-backround, but the resolution's too small! Unless I'm missing something?
Re: Down Under's DSi XL Range Gets Colourful Next Month
Even though I already have the Dark Brown DSi XL, it'd be nice to see some more colours come to Europe.
Re: Monster Hunter Tri Soundtrack Rolls Out to Stores and Download
I feel like one of the very few people who doesn't like this game... :/
Re: Ivy the Kiwi? Contest Winner!
Damn, didn't win. Probably didn't help that it was a US only competition.
Re: Latest Pokemon Titles Top One Million Preorders in Japan
Yet we have to wait until spring next year. And it doesn't even get localised for us!!!
Re: 3DS Unlikely to Feature Achievements System
I'm a completionist, so I don't mind achievements as long as they're not too hard to get.
It annoys me that I only have 10G in GoW (since a mate played it on my console) and 80G in Game Room (I downloaded it since I thought, because it was free, no achievements. You can probably tell how much I raged when that 5G - Show Me! achievement popped up).
Re: Nintendo and THQ Teamed Up on uDraw GameTablet
Bloody Northeners.
Re: Nintendo Download 25th August 2010 (Japan)
@Egg miester
What? Prehistorik Man is terrible. XD
Re: Review: 3D Mahjong (DSiWare)
I have no idea how Mahjong works.
Re: New Sonic Wisp Power-Ups Help Sonic Hover and More
@Raylax
Your puns could be a shade more tasteful, I think.
Re: This Video Wants You to Know uDraw Studio is for Artists Too
@peterifico
I read on ONM's site that images can be exported to SD cards.
I think I may get this actually.
Re: Features: Bizarre Emails Sent to Nintendo Life
We should make this a regular feature.
Re: THQ Brings Art Alive on Wii with uDraw Studio
This actually appeals to me, especially since you can export pictures to an SD card.
Re: Rumour: Wii 2 to Feature Blu-ray Drive, Out Next Year
Yeeeeeeeeaaa-no.
Re: Help Professor Layton Find the Lost Future on October 22nd
As long as they keep Luke's UK voice actor, I'll be happy.
@6
They must have done. If you listen carefully, sometimes you can hear that some of the spoken dialogue referring to Pandora's Box is a very slightly different tone to some that doesn't make such references, indicating that it wasn't recorded at the same time.
Re: Nintendo Teamed Up With Nokia to Develop Phone Concept
If it would shut people up about how show-stopping the iPhone is then I would be all for it (not that I wouldn't be all for it anyway )
Re: Archie Writer Reveals Sonic Colours Comic, Hints at New Characters
Please don't fudge this one up Sega.
Re: These Fuzzy Super Scribblenauts Headphones Can Be Yours
And, yet again, Europe gets... ?
Re: Ivy the Kiwi?
Ha ha, I managed to slip through the net and enter, even though I'm a Brit!
Oh, I mean, uh, good luck you lucky Americans. >.>
Re: Another Analyst Suggests Wii 1.5 On the Way
Do we really need a Wii 1.5? I'd rather wait for a Wii 2, there's nothing wrong with my current Wii.
Re: Sonic Colours Gets Release Dates
I'm not going to hype myself too much (just in case) but I am going to say that these look promising. The DS version is probably guaranteed to be good, since it is essentially Sonic Rush 3.
Re: NES-Style DJ Hero is Bleeping Cool
I would pay money for this.
Re: Thrill Friends and Family with These Sonic Remote Control Cars
Re: Yep, Flipnote Studio Is One Way To Make a Music Video
The annoying thing about flipnote studio is that, when viewing via my DS, I can't see any flipnotes that aren't European, even if I have my preferences on the site set to worldwide.
Re: Kirby's Epic Yarn Unravels to 2011 in Europe
The way it works for us is, because they tend to include multiple languages on one Wii/DS game, we have to wait whilst on the translations, whilst we (more often than not) still get the unlocalised American English version. At the end of the day, they are two different languages (e.g. did you know there are over 4000 words used everyday in AmEnglish that have no meaning whatsoever in BrEnglish? I was pretty confused the first time someone asked if I liked rutabaga). Not to mention there are some pretty big grammatical differences. Ultimately the meaning is conveyed, but still some dialogue will still will sound strange or make little to even no sense.
Grr...
Re: High Court Outlaws Flash Carts in UK
I'm not going to lie guys, but these are some seriously good arguments you're all coming up with here. I would type a longer comment but I'm shattered after 9 hours of farm work, so cba.
Re: High Court Outlaws Flash Carts in UK
Well, obviously there’s a certain scope of stuff you can do within reason. I mean, go ahead and use your DS as a doorstop if you want (I recommend the old brick DS ).
What I mean is that there are limits as to what you can legally and morally use your console for before you start getting into grey territory. For example, just because you bought yourself a shiny new camcorder doesn’t mean you can go and record your favourite movie down at your local cinema. Just because you bought a pack of cigarettes on a plane doesn’t mean you can smoke them straight away. Being the owner of something doesn’t give you the instant right to use it however you want. There are laws and morals that direct you to use it correctly.
Unfortunately, unless you can afford the ~$3000 dev kit for a DS, it’s not really a unit for indie development. That sort of role is filled by the iPod. The DS is more of a dedicated console. You’ve purchased a Nintendo device primarily to play Nintendo content. Therefore, Nintendo will ultimately control what happens with that content, whether you like it or not. Me? I think it’s fair enough.
And with regards to the 5 year old girl, why would you even begin to think she bought all of her games? In today’s economic climate, mum and dad would find it easier and cheaper to just download x number of games onto a memory card. Mum and dad save money, small girl gets to play lots of games. Win win for them.
Re: High Court Outlaws Flash Carts in UK
This is like comparing apples to oranges. Computers and DSes are completely different when it comes to the software that is permitted to run on them. Computers are open ended enough that anyone with the skill can develop for them and then distribute the application, and some OSes (like Linux) even encourage the changing of the OS code itself. The DS on the other hand is a specific system designed to play specific games. When you buy a DS, you accept the fact that the system will only be able to legally run whatever Nintendo permits to be released. This is one of the implications of console gaming that I accept, and I suppose that I even take for granted. Whilst there are many missing features, such as a Virtual Console of some sort or the ability to copy all my games to one cart or the system itself, it’s a compromise that I have little problems with in exchange for having the ability to play the fantastic software available for the system, and I am more than willing to hand over my hard earned cash to the deserving developer for his/her work.
It winds me up when the homebrew community kick up a fuss about these sort of acts “stifling innovation” because the DS isn’t designed as a hobby tool to develop for. I’m not saying that homebrewers are criminals, but piracy prevention often has to hit hombrewers as well because both groups often use the same exploits to get stuff running on the system, regardless of whether the intent is harmful or not. At the end of the day, Nintendo is a business, and will want to protect its assets from piracy which could (and has) cause massive monetary losses in the industry. People need to realise that Nintendo’s priorities lies with protecting the industry from the damage caused by pirates, not making sure that little Timmy can continue to tinker with his R4 at the expense of millions of dollars worth of losses to the games industry. That’s business, and it suck; man up.
And returning to the point about “stifling innovation”, have you ever heard of a DS game called “Maestro: Jump in Music”? It never really was released in large quantities in Europe, and it appears piracy had some sort of role in that. Here’s a quote from a news article on their site:
“The consequences are simple, we are forced to keep making games for others, Baby games, teddy bear and pony games to survive, and we won’t be able to create new and original games for players to enjoy.”
The article does make for an interesting read, as the consequences of piracy comes right from the developer’s mouth. The article can be found here:
http://www.maestrojumpinmusic.com/blog/en/nota-bene/piratage-4454-tel-est-le-chiffre
Sorry homebrewers, but measures such as these make perfect and logical sense to me. Please do continue to discuss, since I do enjoy bouncing these ideas around. But here’s my initial opinion anyway.
@theblackdragon
Nah, ROM dumps like this are illegal. Here:
“Game copiers that are used to copy video game software without authorization onto any type of memory device or the hard drive of a personal computer are illegal.”
So even if they are simply used for the purpose of backing up an original game, it’s still an unauthorised copy, hence illegal.
@Maka
I think the ban applies to “game copiers” in general, not just the R4.
Again, computers are designed to have added functionality incorporated by programs. The problem here is that, whilst people will have good intentions and say “oh, I can add this, this and that” people will mainly use R4-esque units for the purpose of playing pirated games. Sat on the bus not too long ago, I saw a small girl of only about 5 playing on her DS and, lo and behold, a flashcart was nestled in the card slot. Your average mum and dad who are probably not too hot with computers beyond word processing and internet browsing, so if they can pirate ROMS with just a quick google search, then Nintendo have a massive problem on their hands; they could easily lose large chunks of the market they themselves have converted to gaming. It’s this they need to protect against, and homebrewers are the casualties.
It continues to annoy me how they act all-hard-done-by though, since at the end of the day the DS is not designed with homebrew development in mind. You’re complaining about losing something that was never supposed to happen in the first place. It’s like if you find a wallet full of cash; you shouldn’t have it, but when someone tries to take it away you kick up a fuss. What did you expect?
And the solution to the availability of poor apps? Spend your money on real games and apps without pirating them, and then it shows what people want.
Re: High Court Outlaws Flash Carts in UK
@edhe
Do it. Take pics for lulz.
Re: High Court Outlaws Flash Carts in UK
@Koto
Well I think this covers all flash cards, since they were collectively referred to as "game copiers".
Sorry homebrewers, but I totally support this move, and have little sympathy for you.
/dons flame-proof clothes
Re: First Impressions: Wii and DS Round-Up from London
Please tell me that they've kept Luke's UK voice in the UK version of Prof. Layton...
Re: Nintendo Provides Face Training to European Gamers This September
@PunnyGuy
More like Fumiko Inudo's Face Training: How Old Is Your Face?
Re: Here's a Pokemon Black & White Video Chat Video For You
Why the hell is the framerate on the DSi's video stream so choppy?
Re: Let Wii Entertain You with We Sing: Robbie Williams
I never minded his music. Some of his tracks were quite good.
None of this Justin Beiber crap though.