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Re: Round Up: Four New Switch Games Announced At NISA Showcase 2022

SmaggTheSmug

GrimGrimoire sounded interesting until I saw the trailer. Barely any gameplay and it looks more like those flash games where units go into a single line into each other than a proper RTS (or even a single unit control one like Tooth and Tail or AirMech). And it has that off-putting oily animation style on top.

Re: Netflix Cancels Resident Evil Series After First Season

SmaggTheSmug

@Snatcher "Woke" is usually when garbage writers attempt to "fix" a beloved franchise by inserting their politics into it and accuse any critics of being a bigot. It's a practice of using minorities as a shield and exaggerated outrage as marketing. However most people don't see past this and mistake the symptoms (minority actors) for the cause (which is insecure garbage writers).
Here they cast a black guy as one of the characters that was originally white (Wesker IIRC).

Re: Controversial Rhythm Game 'Massage Freaks' May Have Been Canned On Switch

SmaggTheSmug

A lot of people here seem to have forgotten the previous news post about this game.
All those statements are here to fend off the screeching twitter crowd that for some reason decided to target Japanese erotic games (I would bet a lot of the same people praised those awful sex scenes in The Last of Us 2).
It's just another attack on Japanese media by cultural imperialists.

If you wonder why they needed to specify all those things in those statements: it's because there was a crowd of stupid people accusing them of wrongdoing. The kind of moral busybodies that back in the day claimed D&D was satanic, hip hop would be the downfall of society and Counter Strike taught people how to perform school shootings. All while studies show otherwise.

Re: Controversial Rhythm Game 'Massage Freaks' May Have Been Canned On Switch

SmaggTheSmug

@GrailUK They said they would proceed with legal action against people "spreading false rumours" and "making harmful social media posts" about their game. That would be difficult to pull off, but this disclaimer should in theory shut them up.
I would be cheeky and add "any well-adjusted adult should already know this" to that statement, but I'm guessing it's not a Platinum game

Re: Raunchy Rhythm Title 'Massage Freaks' Delayed Indefinitely After Online Backlash

SmaggTheSmug

@jowe_gw >And how do you distinct "right to express opinions freely" and "destroy someone's reputation"?
Most legal systems (especially American legal system) have no problems with that. As do most people. The clue is "false statement of fact".

If you don't see the difference between the issue with the names and the "false rumours" then you're either being deliberately obtuse or just slow.

Re: Raunchy Rhythm Title 'Massage Freaks' Delayed Indefinitely After Online Backlash

SmaggTheSmug

@jowe_gw Again you just used incorrect premises to come to the wrong conclusions.
Free speech is about protecting the right to speak truth and express opinions freely. Not tell lies to destroy someone's reputation. Hence defamation is not a free speech issue.
The part about real names used is true, but the suit is about "spreading false rumours". The developers changed the names so it would be weird if they sued over this. Ergo, the names aren't the issue.
Lastly, even if the complaints about sexual content were a result of those names used, they aren't justified if they are "false rumours".
Lastly you assigned opinions I do not hold to me multiple times.
Cease this pointless sophistry.

Re: Raunchy Rhythm Title 'Massage Freaks' Delayed Indefinitely After Online Backlash

SmaggTheSmug

@jowe_gw Simple: you're basing your arguments off of assumptions. You assume that the backlash against the sexy part is caused by the real names part, you assumed plenty of times what my position is (and you were wrong every time) and you assume that the ones sued by the Japanese company are Americans. You also wrongly assumed that this is a free speech issue and you assume that even if it was, it would be hypocritical (where it would be more of a case of "we warned you that would happen" not "we wanted it to happen").
Nothing you speak is based in fact, it's all based on "consider if...". Well, consider you're wrong. Because you are.

Re: Raunchy Rhythm Title 'Massage Freaks' Delayed Indefinitely After Online Backlash

SmaggTheSmug

@jowe_gw You're just making stuff up and assigning people things they didn't say. If the issue was the names then the devs wouldn't sue over "spreading false rumours". First you said the backlash had nothing to do with lewdness and now you're desperately trying to tie the lewdness to the names. Just stop being disingenuous to make your point, because if you have to, then you have no point at all.

There are two separate stories: the backlash with the names and the attack on lewdness. The developers are suing over the latter while they caved in to the former (and smartly so, because it could be a suit on them; see how JoJo changes names for western markets). And neither has anything to do with free speech issues.

Re: Raunchy Rhythm Title 'Massage Freaks' Delayed Indefinitely After Online Backlash

SmaggTheSmug

@jowe_gw BTW, here's the tweet.
https://twitter.com/qureate/status/1550427832610062338?s=20&t=qP9LmKIq2wTN9BQd3AA6Jg

"We are also taking legal action against the spreading of false rumors, malicious social networking posts, and other activities that may interfere with our business."

So yes, this is regular defamation as westerners understand it. They're suing people over spreading lies about the game. Which everyone is in favor of. Free speech advocates too.

Re: Raunchy Rhythm Title 'Massage Freaks' Delayed Indefinitely After Online Backlash

SmaggTheSmug

@jowe_gw You're assuming a lot things about me. Like I said, I don't even care about the names thing and the subsequent backlash. Yeah, it was stupid on the dev's part to use those names and the backlash is understandable. It seems they changed those anyway. So it's not part of the argument and you should stop it. They're not suing people who brought that up, they're suing people who say this game will "promote rape culture" and "is similar to assault in massage parlors". So yea, the lewd part.

Defamation laws were never part of pro-free speech argument. You should also stop pretending like that's relevant. No, defamation was never framed as "censorship" be free speech activists. Hate speech laws are, and those are an entirely different beast. So please stop being dishonest and putting words in my mouth.

What am I in favor of? People getting a taste of their own medicine. I don't even like that particular law (IMO defamation should only be applicable when there's a "false statement of fact that damages one's reputation"), but that's how Japan rolls and those people who like to feel powerful by throwing various accusations around are now receiving the kind of pushback they didn't expect.
And how do you know they would use American law? In the example I gave the claimant was American. Here the claimant is Japanese, so by that logic Japanese law would apply. Which means "your game promotes rape culture" could be used as base for a defamation suit.

Re: Raunchy Rhythm Title 'Massage Freaks' Delayed Indefinitely After Online Backlash

SmaggTheSmug

@jowe_gw There is no hypocrisy here. Defamation and censorship are completely unrelated things. There are almost zero free speech absolutists who would argue against defamation laws. You're creating a strawman here by even bringing such terms into the argument. Stay on topic.

I don't even care about the real names used in the game. I don't think the suit is based on this (the developers seem to have changed the names, so it can't be), it's likely more about the "this sounds like rape" part. I just find it interesting that people who usually advocate for "consequences culture" are now facing those consequences. As in, the shoe is on the other foot. It's not that they "deserve" it, it's that they asked for it, without ever thinking it could be used against them.

Maybe more Japanese companies will follow suit and sue twitter loudmouths. This is the interesting part, regardless of which side of the issue you stand on. You seem to be under impression that one cannot sue someone from overseas, but there was this case of an American suing a British YouTuber over a video, by American law. They lost and the British guy counter-sued for expenses and won. International court cases are very much a thing.

Re: Raunchy Rhythm Title 'Massage Freaks' Delayed Indefinitely After Online Backlash

SmaggTheSmug

@jowe_gw This whole thing isn't a speech issue, it's a defamation issue. No one argues against defamation laws, they argue about censoring of "hate speech", where "hate" is ill-defined and could be easily misused by governments to shut down dissent. Kind of like "political correctness" used to mean "don't speak ill of the communist government" or "gay relationships aren't to be defended".

The only thing that isn't genuine is your framing of the free speech argument.

However this is something different entirely: it's bad actors on the internet, in their misguided sense of cultural superiority, attempting to destroy the reputation of a video game company. And this time the company is pushing back using legal tools. So now they will have to back up their claims in court. This is what makes it interesting, because so far Japanese studios either simply ignored the "crazy foreigners" or just withdrawn from overseas markets, depriving a wider audience from experiencing the games. Which is, you know, bad. Especially when these people usually use "wider audience" as their core argument.

It's not about free speech, it's about moral busybodies getting more pushback than their expected.