So, so, so many Wii U games that people "didn't get to play"...
It's a good thing Super Mario Odyssey is a thing, because if you invested at all in Nintendo last gen, right now Nintendo Switch looks like a portable Wii U with less games.
You say that, except that I named one Nintendo product that was under supplied for every year in the last decade..
And come on. They canceled production of the MUCH sought after NES classic, only to announce the SNES classic mere months later. That's as intentional as it gets.
@Jaredfrogman Square just released the Mana collection for Switch in Japan. Nintendo dropped support of the New3DS VC back in 2016, Wii U's VC back in March, just finished up the NES classic, deflected every question about Switch VC at E3, and now announces the SNES classic for the holiday season.
I genuinely believe there is no Virtual Console coming to Nintendo Switch.
Ah, yes. The regular size New 3DS! Yet another product Nintendo didn't want you to have without struggle. Meanwhile, all those N3DS XLs just sit around on the shelf at target.
Anyone want to help me recollect all the other products Nintendo has had totally-not-at-all-intentional scarcity issues with?
The Wii Zelda N3DS Fire Emblem LE WiiU games (Pikmin3, Game and Wario, Luigi U) WiiU GameCube adapter for Smash Amiibos back in 2015 BotW Amiibos now in 2017 Nes Classic system BotW XL Strategy Guide Botw Master Edition The Switch SNES Classic .....I know I'm forgetting something.
1. They must have figured out the Super FX chip emulation issues, since Yoshi's Island, Mario RPG, and StarFox are all on there. 2. Dylan Cuthbert recently said in an interview that the ROM version of StarFox2 on the internet was incomplete. So is this an internal/different/more complete version of the game? 3.Secret of Mana is 3 players. How about a MultiTap???
The system itself looks cool! But if the game play is anything like the YouTube ad they released, I'll have a migraine headache before I get my first chaos emerald! The speed/timing of the gameplay seems WAY off...
Oh Nintendo... when was the last time they released a Virtual Console game anyway?
Oh yeah! They announced the VC service for New3DS (SNES support) in March of 2016 and then promptly stopped supporting it before the end of December 2016.
So! Nintendo supported their last VC service (on their most successful system) for less than a year, people..
And anyone questioning why this isn't on Switch only has to remind themselves of the 70 million little reasons (Plus the considerably lower development costs), VS the 3 million or so people who CURRENTLY have Switch (with a much higher dev cost AND $10 price mark up to cover that physical cartridge cost).
It's pretty clear why it's on 3DS. And I'm sure they'll port it over to Switch eventually, once they've made their money off 3DS owning Metroid fans.
@JaxonH Normally I would agree but there are ALREADY several WiiU games proving this untrue. And yes! Darksiders is a VERY good call as well!...All of this I will be kicking myself over in about a year.
I told you so. I told you to buy Cars 3 for Wii U before it became a triple digit collectors item. "Oh, it's just Cars tho, who cares?" "It's a physical retail WiiU game released late in June of 2017?!" "It doesn't even have the same basic co-op features the other console versions have!!?" "IT'S FULL PRICE!!??!!?"
@Menchi187 Honestly, I'm just disappointed. I love Nintendo's games, I always have. I've got all their systems, more carts and discs than I can count, and a Donkey Kong machine in my living room.
But as a lifelong fan, someone who supported their last console especially, I'm not seeing them go above and beyond like they need to, I'm just seeing the same vicious cycle all over again.
Virtual Console AND Netflix-style services/Paid Subscriptions/cloud storage/discount program for re-downloading/ Netflix and Hulu, etc (these are all fairly basic offerings that other companies and platforms, with much less money and resources, currently provide) should have been ready to go on Switch's launch day...not "sometime next year".
Nintendo is literally a billion dollar company. I just want them to occasionally act like one.
@Menchi187 so true.. here we go again, unfortunately.
Nintendo's support of the Virtual Console has been a lazy second thought at best. The Wii, DSi, 3DS, WiiU, and N3DS were all drip fed VC classic content and suffered slow, premature, miserable, unfulfilled deaths.
Now we are being asked to wait until 2018, so Nintendo can figure out how to add in stuff like 'online features' to old ROMS?? Online features that now apply only to NES games apparently?
Man....Things aren't looking good for Virtual Console. After the drip-feed of content that was made available, bit by bit, for the Wii, then the 3DS, then WiiU, I have no faith in Nintendo to make this work well. Add to that the lengthy wait times (and flatline death) of the 3D classics series and N3DS' SNES VC, and things like 'online features' for classic games start to feel more like speed bumps and more wait time. Seems to me like Nintendo's VC games are going to come out EVEN SLOWER than ever before.
The point everyone is missing is this: These screens don't need to be real. Nintendo is going to start porting Smash to the Switch the very second it doesn't have a new game on the horizon.
It's a future proof, stop-gap title. Just like Mario Kart 8, it's been a profitable, finished product for years already. They just take some time to spruce up the graphics, maybe add a new character or level and DONE. They know it will sell gangbusters regardless of the conditions of it's launch and at full price, no less.
The only downside is, seemingly, Nintendo is partly relying on churning out some of their previous works, instead of going 110% on their new titles and new creative ideas for the Switch.
@Muddy_4_Ever Couldn't have said it better myself. While I'm sure Universal will come up with some great stuff, there is little doubt it will boil down to some version of a 3D screen based ride, which is far less appealing/exciting to me as a theme park fan (as well as a Nintendo fan), than the potential alternatives that would be made possible by Disney's Imagineers and Disney's money.
Someone needs to get this kid a copy of Nintendo's SoundVoyager for the GBA STAT!!!!
He obviously likes music and already owns a GBA, so this is a no brainer. Please, if you speak Japanese and/or use twitter, go tell this kid about SoundVoyager!!
Cool idea, but you gotta love NOA for waiting 3 entire years to properly advertise and market one of the most accessible products they produce.
Mario Kart 8 along with Breath of the Wild, Lego City, and the inevitable Smash Bros 'remaster' are making me wish Nintendo had a little more to offer up for those of us who didn't jump ship and abandon them during the last 4 years.
So Radar Scope failed, Miyamoto came up with a concept for a Popeye arcade game and won over his boss. King Fisher wouldn't give up the rights to Popeye, so Miyamoto redesigns Popeye into Donkey Kong. Donkey Kong becomes a hit, King Fisher changes its mind about the licensing, Miyamoto then creates a proper Popeye game.
It would be very cool if they decided to release the scans and artwork to allow other arcade fans to re-create their own Sky Skipper cabs. It's unlikely, but one can hope!
Either way, a rare move by NOA to let outsiders into the vault and share some Nintendo magic!!
It was a non-existent issue when Nintendo ditched Duel Screens in the Game and Watch line for the first time to go single screen for the original GameBoy...in 1989... We are all going to be just fine.
I just want to point out that the images online showing the screen portion of the unit has 2 small slots on either side for speakers, as well as what seems to be a single off-centered camera lens!! Looks a lot like a cell phone camera and I haven't seen anyone report on that feature yet!!
I genuinely believe this system will support motion controls and touchscreen as well. It's too perfect an opportunity to re-sell every game in nintendo's past console libraries!
As a Donkey Kong arcade fan, this was a really great article! However, I'm fairly sure Ikegami Tsushinki was a developer/company, not simply a single man. The story behind DK and it's confusing history are something I always find interesting and exciting to learn about! New info and stories seem to come to light every few years!
Not even Suda 51 does B-horror fun like Zombies Ate My Neighbors did. Even the sequel was half-way good, with the slide move. But the original is a classic.. Miss you Lucas arts!
Great interview!! I've still got my boxed copy of Plok I picked up at the mall in 92'. Plok has always been a huge favorite of mine and even in the wave of 'me too' platformers, Plok was always a stand out game. I remember emailing one of the brothers years ago trying to find an unfinished ROM of Fleapit even! I will have to pick these comics up. I would love to see another game in the series! And come on.. That music!!!
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Re: Rumour: Nintendo Switch Comes With A Built-In NES Emulator
Flog backwards is Golf...
NES' Mario Golf for Switch confirmed!!! Yay!!
Re: Platinum Games Teases The Wonderful 101 for Switch
So, so, so many Wii U games that people "didn't get to play"...
It's a good thing Super Mario Odyssey is a thing, because if you invested at all in Nintendo last gen, right now Nintendo Switch looks like a portable Wii U with less games.
Re: Bandai Namco Confirms July Release for Namco Museum on Nintendo Switch
Aaaand another company offers classic games to Nintendo customers, while Nintendo drags their feet with Switch VC!
Re: Editorial: The Frustrating Quest for a SNES Mini is Bad Business for Nintendo
@Pod
You say that, except that I named one Nintendo product that was under supplied for every year in the last decade..
And come on. They canceled production of the MUCH sought after NES classic, only to announce the SNES classic mere months later. That's as intentional as it gets.
Re: Editorial: The Frustrating Quest for a SNES Mini is Bad Business for Nintendo
@Jaredfrogman
Square just released the Mana collection for Switch in Japan. Nintendo dropped support of the New3DS VC back in 2016, Wii U's VC back in March, just finished up the NES classic, deflected every question about Switch VC at E3, and now announces the SNES classic for the holiday season.
I genuinely believe there is no Virtual Console coming to Nintendo Switch.
Re: Editorial: The Frustrating Quest for a SNES Mini is Bad Business for Nintendo
@dkxcalibur
Ah, yes. The regular size New 3DS! Yet another product Nintendo didn't want you to have without struggle.
Meanwhile, all those N3DS XLs just sit around on the shelf at target.
Re: Editorial: The Frustrating Quest for a SNES Mini is Bad Business for Nintendo
Anyone want to help me recollect all the other products Nintendo has had totally-not-at-all-intentional scarcity issues with?
The Wii
Zelda N3DS
Fire Emblem LE
WiiU games (Pikmin3, Game and Wario, Luigi U)
WiiU GameCube adapter for Smash
Amiibos back in 2015
BotW Amiibos now in 2017
Nes Classic system
BotW XL Strategy Guide
Botw Master Edition
The Switch
SNES Classic
.....I know I'm forgetting something.
Re: Matters Of Import: Finding The Secret Of Mana In Seiken Densetsu Collection On Switch
Between this collection, and the NES, and SNES Classics, I don't think we'll be seeing Virtual Console come to the Switch any time soon...
I don't even own a Switch yet, and I'd buy this if it were in English!
Re: Poll: Are You Excited About the Super NES Classic Edition?
So many things to consider!
1. They must have figured out the Super FX chip emulation issues, since Yoshi's Island, Mario RPG, and StarFox are all on there.
2. Dylan Cuthbert recently said in an interview that the ROM version of StarFox2 on the internet was incomplete. So is this an internal/different/more complete version of the game?
3.Secret of Mana is 3 players. How about a MultiTap???
Re: Video: This Year's AtGames Sega Genesis Flashback Console Looks Much Improved
The system itself looks cool! But if the game play is anything like the YouTube ad they released, I'll have a migraine headache before I get my first chaos emerald! The speed/timing of the gameplay seems WAY off...
Re: We Know There's An Appetite For Virtual Console On Switch, Says Reggie Fils-Aime
Oh Nintendo... when was the last time they released a Virtual Console game anyway?
Oh yeah! They announced the VC service for New3DS (SNES support) in March of 2016 and then promptly stopped supporting it before the end of December 2016.
So! Nintendo supported their last VC service (on their most successful system) for less than a year, people..
I an not hopeful for the Switch VC.
Re: Metroid: Samus Returns Resurrects Game Boy Classic "In A Completely New Way", Says MercurySteam
Super excited for this new Metroid 2 remake!!
And anyone questioning why this isn't on Switch only has to remind themselves of the 70 million little reasons (Plus the considerably lower development costs), VS the 3 million or so people who CURRENTLY have Switch (with a much higher dev cost AND $10 price mark up to cover that physical cartridge cost).
It's pretty clear why it's on 3DS. And I'm sure they'll port it over to Switch eventually, once they've made their money off 3DS owning Metroid fans.
Re: Remake of Metroid II, Metroid: Samus Returns, Announced for 3DS at E3
Will buy all, day one.
Re: Hardware Review: BittBoy Portable Video Game Handheld
This makes me miss my Game Axe colour...
Re: Sky Skipper Arcade Restoration Revealed To The World
I have a Popeye machine and love the Nintendo arcade classics. This is just completely amazing!!
Re: Nintendo Download: 8th June (North America)
@JaxonH
Normally I would agree but there are ALREADY several WiiU games proving this untrue. And yes! Darksiders is a VERY good call as well!...All of this I will be kicking myself over in about a year.
Re: Nintendo Download: 8th June (North America)
Just leaving my future-self a little note here:
I told you so. I told you to buy Cars 3 for Wii U before it became a triple digit collectors item. "Oh, it's just Cars tho, who cares?" "It's a physical retail WiiU game released late in June of 2017?!" "It doesn't even have the same basic co-op features the other console versions have!!?" "IT'S FULL PRICE!!??!!?"
Yep. I told you so.
Re: Mana Series Collection Starts Well in Japan as Switch Stays on Top
I love SNES more than I love being sensible. I would buy a Switch for this collection alone.
Re: Pokkén Tournament DX Confirmed For Nintendo Switch
"Nintendo Switch - You could have played these games years ago!"
"Nintendo Switch - Didn't buy our Wii U games? Well, you will now!"
"Nintendo Switch - Wii U part 2!"
Re: Random: This ARMS And Popeye Fan Art Mixes Nintendo's Past And Present
I love the Popeye arcade game by Nintendo, this is just too perfect!
Re: Nintendo's Online Service For Switch Will Offer "Ongoing Access" To Classic Games
@Menchi187
Honestly, I'm just disappointed. I love Nintendo's games, I always have. I've got all their systems, more carts and discs than I can count, and a Donkey Kong machine in my living room.
But as a lifelong fan, someone who supported their last console especially, I'm not seeing them go above and beyond like they need to, I'm just seeing the same vicious cycle all over again.
Virtual Console AND Netflix-style services/Paid Subscriptions/cloud storage/discount program for re-downloading/ Netflix and Hulu, etc (these are all fairly basic offerings that other companies and platforms, with much less money and resources, currently provide) should have been ready to go on Switch's launch day...not "sometime next year".
Nintendo is literally a billion dollar company. I just want them to occasionally act like one.
Re: Nintendo's Online Service For Switch Will Offer "Ongoing Access" To Classic Games
@Menchi187
so true.. here we go again, unfortunately.
Nintendo's support of the Virtual Console has been a lazy second thought at best. The Wii, DSi, 3DS, WiiU, and N3DS were all drip fed VC classic content and suffered slow, premature, miserable, unfulfilled deaths.
Now we are being asked to wait until 2018, so Nintendo can figure out how to add in stuff like 'online features' to old ROMS?? Online features that now apply only to NES games apparently?
Re: Nintendo Reveals More Details About its Paid Online Service
Man....Things aren't looking good for Virtual Console. After the drip-feed of content that was made available, bit by bit, for the Wii, then the 3DS, then WiiU, I have no faith in Nintendo to make this work well.
Add to that the lengthy wait times (and flatline death) of the 3D classics series and N3DS' SNES VC, and things like 'online features' for classic games start to feel more like speed bumps and more wait time.
Seems to me like Nintendo's VC games are going to come out EVEN SLOWER than ever before.
Re: Video: Take a Look at Retro-Bit's Capcom-Themed NES Controllers
Any news on the other product announced along side these controllers earlier this year?
I'm reeeeeeally looking forward to the brand new multigame SNES and GameBoy carts!!
Re: E3 is Coming, Which Means Anonymous Super Smash Bros. Switch 'Screenshots'
The point everyone is missing is this:
These screens don't need to be real. Nintendo is going to start porting Smash to the Switch the very second it doesn't have a new game on the horizon.
It's a future proof, stop-gap title. Just like Mario Kart 8, it's been a profitable, finished product for years already. They just take some time to spruce up the graphics, maybe add a new character or level and DONE. They know it will sell gangbusters regardless of the conditions of it's launch and at full price, no less.
The only downside is, seemingly, Nintendo is partly relying on churning out some of their previous works, instead of going 110% on their new titles and new creative ideas for the Switch.
Re: Super Nintendo World Amusement Park Trademark Reveals More Details
@Muddy_4_Ever
Couldn't have said it better myself. While I'm sure Universal will come up with some great stuff, there is little doubt it will boil down to some version of a 3D screen based ride, which is far less appealing/exciting to me as a theme park fan (as well as a Nintendo fan), than the potential alternatives that would be made possible by Disney's Imagineers and Disney's money.
Re: Nintendo's Response To Blind Rhythm Heaven Fan Will Warm Even The Coldest Of Hearts
Someone needs to get this kid a copy of Nintendo's SoundVoyager for the GBA STAT!!!!
He obviously likes music and already owns a GBA, so this is a no brainer. Please, if you speak Japanese and/or use twitter, go tell this kid about SoundVoyager!!
Re: 650+ Target Stores Get a Mario Kart Makeover in North America
Cool idea, but you gotta love NOA for waiting 3 entire years to properly advertise and market one of the most accessible products they produce.
Mario Kart 8 along with Breath of the Wild, Lego City, and the inevitable Smash Bros 'remaster' are making me wish Nintendo had a little more to offer up for those of us who didn't jump ship and abandon them during the last 4 years.
Re: Doubt Is Thrown On The Exact Story Behind The Creation Of Donkey Kong
So Radar Scope failed, Miyamoto came up with a concept for a Popeye arcade game and won over his boss. King Fisher wouldn't give up the rights to Popeye, so Miyamoto redesigns Popeye into Donkey Kong. Donkey Kong becomes a hit, King Fisher changes its mind about the licensing, Miyamoto then creates a proper Popeye game.
Is that it?
Re: Nintendo Of America Shows Off Its Unreleased Sky Skipper Arcade Cabinet
It would be very cool if they decided to release the scans and artwork to allow other arcade fans to re-create their own Sky Skipper cabs. It's unlikely, but one can hope!
Either way, a rare move by NOA to let outsiders into the vault and share some Nintendo magic!!
Re: Random: Check Out This Neat 3D View of the Nintendo Switch
Excited to see the camera lens at the bottom of the unit. Would be cool to have a video chat option like the Wii U does.
Re: Poll: Nintendo Switch Delivers Single Screen Gaming - Will You Miss the Dual Screen Concept?
It was a non-existent issue when Nintendo ditched Duel Screens in the Game and Watch line for the first time to go single screen for the original GameBoy...in 1989...
We are all going to be just fine.
Re: Poll: What Do You Think of the Nintendo Switch?
I just want to point out that the images online showing the screen portion of the unit has 2 small slots on either side for speakers, as well as what seems to be a single off-centered camera lens!! Looks a lot like a cell phone camera and I haven't seen anyone report on that feature yet!!
I genuinely believe this system will support motion controls and touchscreen as well. It's too perfect an opportunity to re-sell every game in nintendo's past console libraries!
Re: Feature: NES Mini Classics - Donkey Kong
As a Donkey Kong arcade fan, this was a really great article! However, I'm fairly sure Ikegami Tsushinki was a developer/company, not simply a single man.
The story behind DK and it's confusing history are something I always find interesting and exciting to learn about! New info and stories seem to come to light every few years!
Re: Nintendo Download: 13th October (North America)
Finally! Chase cold case!!
Love me some Kyle Hyde.
Re: Video: Get Yourself In The Halloween Mood With This Look At Zombies Ate My Neighbors
Not even Suda 51 does B-horror fun like Zombies Ate My Neighbors did. Even the sequel was half-way good, with the slide move. But the original is a classic.. Miss you Lucas arts!
Re: Take A Look Inside Nintendo's Vintage Hardware Storage Room
I'm sure NOA has a room like this as well.......
Re: Ninterview: Ste Pickford On The Ever-Expanding World Of Plok
Great interview!! I've still got my boxed copy of Plok I picked up at the mall in 92'. Plok has always been a huge favorite of mine and even in the wave of 'me too' platformers, Plok was always a stand out game. I remember emailing one of the brothers years ago trying to find an unfinished ROM of Fleapit even! I will have to pick these comics up. I would love to see another game in the series! And come on.. That music!!!
Re: Chase: Cold Case Investigations - Distant Memories Arrives on the 3DS eShop Soon
CING made some of the best games ever created for the DS, so this is great news. I will be buying this and playing the minute it's available!