Strap yourselves in, everyone, it's going to be a bumpy ride.
E3 isn't far off, which means 'leaks' everywhere online, and while there are various reporters and sources we trust 'anonymous' on 4Chan doesn't qualify. That's the source here, which means we're dropping a crate of salt on this one - apparent screens for Super Smash Bros. on Nintendo Switch. [Update: As expected these seem to have been outed as fake, which was always the most likely outcome.]
Now, to be clear, a Director's Cut / Definitive Edition / Deluxe version of Smash 4 has been rumoured by some established analysts for quite some time, even though it's yet to come through. It seems like an easy win for Nintendo and one that wouldn't require significant input and stress for Masahiro Sakurai, as it could take the content from the Wii U and 3DS editions, fling them together and add some spruced up visuals. Heck, we recently did a poll on new characters we'd like to see as bonuses just because we think it's speculation that has a chance of being true.
Combine logic, fan hopes and dreams and an E3 build-up and you get rumours that are tough to believe, especially with Smash Bros. where modders and graphical artists can produce remarkably convincing 'screenshots'. So, the following are from 4Chan and there are quite a few in 'Team Fake' on NeoGAF, highlighting a number of potential flaws. This writer is in Team Fake when it comes to the screens, but Team 'Thinks It's Possible' when it comes down to the chances of the remaster / re-release / deluxe version being an E3 surprise.
Whether they're real or not, they're fun to look at as we fantasize about falling in love with Smash 4 all over again.
Do you hope to see a complete edition of Smash Bros. 4 on Switch this year, or is it just fantasy?
[source neogaf.com]
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Team Fake.
Too many things wrong.
Whether they look real or not, you'd have to fathom the logic if it's announced at E3. Smash Bros. will sell whenever, regardless, even if it is a lazy port like MK8 Deluxe. But announcing it around the release of ARMS? There's only going to be one winner and a premature death of an emerging wannabe franchise .
Edit: If it's to be announced, my guess would be a surprise Direct in late August or September, released in December as a Christmas title. That way it wouldn't affect ARMS. It's coming at some point, that we know for certain.
Why are the characters using their 3DS models? Also, Mario looks off compared to the Waddle Dees. Sadly, I think this is fake.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE How was it lazy? Besides new tracks, what else did you want them to add?
Probably fake but e3 is the time to announce the port.
These screenshots looks worse than screenshots from Wii U version. Fake.
looks fake
Team Biff from ARMS ------> he better be in the next Smash game!
That HD Paper Mario stage screenshot looks SO good and I would kill for this to be real! Probably fake, though, as the shading on Bowser Jr. looks closer to a 3DS character model. But now I'm extremely excited about a possible Smash Bros. Switch that combines the content from the Wii U and 3DS versions.
It makes perfect sense, too! Smash 3DS was a handheld game and focused mostly on stages and trophies from handheld games. Smash Wii U, by contrast, was a console game and the stages/trophies were likewise. So it stands to reason the Switch, being a hybrid, should include both!
Maybe I'm asking for too much, but throw in some new characters and stages (an maybe a Subspace Emissary-esque Adventure Mode), and I'll be the happiest camper of all.
A lot of it is off. The smash run shots especially, given that the models used (especially toon link) look like they're upscaled from the 3ds, which looks a little different to the wii u ones.
I think it's fake, but the Super Smash Bros. fan in me wants it to be real.
Break the Target??!?
I'm on Team "Hope this is real so we could play it".
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Development of any kind, even porting, is difficult. If the game works the developers weren't lazy, and they don't deserve the insult.
I just hope it comes to Switch. Nintendo would make soooo much money off it they'd be dumb not to do it. Think of the extra controllers and everything people would be buying to play it too...
Yeah, those screenshots look very iffy to me. Not getting my hopes up.
Why are they the models from the 3DS version? Are you guys this stupid???
@CapeSmash Really? How was Mario Kart 8 Deluxe lazy? It was so lazy, my response will be likewise. I tell you what, why don't you tell me how Nintendo really tried beyond superficial cosmetics and sitting on a fix they had for the Battle Mode?
"So here's some screenshots from sources we don't trust and we admit are probably fake, but let's write an article about it anyway!"
WTF Nintendo Life?
@SilverSaturn64 3DS or not. You don't have to call us stupid.
fake or not ?
team fake tbh
@CapeSmash Feels pretty lazy to me - and I'm someone that purchased it anyway. I know they added a more complete battle mode, but it's hard for me to deny that it was a little lazy.
@PanurgeJr Sure, it's difficult, but that's why there are dozens of paid professionals working on porting it. They still get to reuse 90% of the existing assets, and it's certainly much less work than creating a new game. Plus, any decent programmer has in the back of their mind that parts of the game (Or the entire thing) could be used at a later date, so it (should) be written with portability/re-use in mind.
On topic, I hope this is a thing. I'd love to have Smash on my Switch. It would be nice if there were a couple new characters, stages, or gameplay modes, but I admit, I'll be dumb enough to buy it again either way =)
Melee Break the Targets stage? That's... I don't wanna call it a "fanboy" thing to include, but that's the only word I can think of.
Anyway, yeah, them's 3DS models. Next rumour please.
HD smash run? Sign me up!
the first screen shot looks like it is from one of the paper mario stages. that may make a great battle stage.
it would be an even better battle stage if the fighters had different fighting moves while in the stage.
just imagine the only weapons and items available for use in the stage are items from the paper Mario games. like the different badges from the GameCube version of the game as well as the different items from the Wii U versions of the game like the fan, the plunger, and more.
however, everyone's main move/special move would be a hammer/paint hammer. it would be needed to fill in spots in the level so that the fighters are not trapped in a corner from a shy-guy or two sucking away the paint...
I think it'll happen.. It's a no brainer like you said in the article, no real effort needed. Yes please Nintendo.
However I'll believe it when nintendo announce it
These shots don't look convincing enough for me. They do look nice, though.
Don't care whether this is real or not. Wished we'd see a port of the WiiU version, though.
I honestly would rather them wait and make an actual Nintendo switch version of Smash Brothers 5. Instead of making Smash Brothers just available to half the consoles out there.
I call fake!
The artwork looks a bit different... It's like they put together the Wii U and 3DS versions in one game, which would make sense.
I'd love to see this happening, but I won't expect anything from these screenshots alone
Fake.
I am in Team Port Skipping.
@MintFox And also, I feel the need to point out, the toon link shown from two perspectives in the 4 player smash run screenshot looks the exact same despite being seen from two different angles.
I wouldn't call this a port, though. Looks like a new game but with same mechanics as 4 WiiU/3DS
@SLIGEACH_EIRE
Just checking, did you really just call Mario Kart on switch a lazy effort Then. when you're called out to supply your facts and reasonings, you said you wanted to be lazy and force others to prove you wrong? Learn your fallacies before trying to prove something is good or bad. Cause your reasoning and debate is bad.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Smash Bros will not kill sales of Arms even if it announced if it comes out at the end of the year. Are people really going to ignore Arms and not buy it just because Smash is announced at the end of the year?
Now, if the two games come out close together, I could see your point. But Arms comes out what, June, July? Its a summer game. If Smash Switch lands in October or November, then enough time will pass for both games to have their chance to shine.
I've seen some fantastic-looking Smash fakes and these are definitely some of them.
Let's be honest: It's almost inevitable Nintendo will port a bunch more games from Wii U across to Switch--especially since we can all see that the major AAA third party isn't going to be there--and Smash Bros. is obviously as good a candidate as any to move across to Nintendo's shiny new console. I for one would be perfectly happy to see it on Switch--as long as a proper new Smash Bros. game is also in the works or at least planned for the system too.
I think there will be a Deluxe version of Smash 4 soon, but this isn't it.
Fake !
Oh, btw...
" I heard a Rumour. They said Smash Bros on Nintendo Switch."
I'll call fake. If someone was going to do fake screenshots for an unannounced Switch game, then Smash is an obvious choice.
@BensonUii Wii remote?
Not this again, this is obviously a Little Mac photoshop.
@LordGeovanni Yes, it is lazy. It's profiteering largely on the excellence and work that went into MK8. Hence its lazy name.
Why are all you people feeding @SLIGEACH_EIRE and his negativity. The guy is notorious in these parts for being absolutely venomous toward Nintendo's current business model.
#TeamFake
Been disappointed so far with the Switch, early days I know, but all it's truly essential games as I see it are those I've played to death already only last gen via my WiiU. Yes, 'definitive' editions, but 99% the same games.
Waiting on Mario Odyssey. Oh, and ABOTW is a bleeding masterpiece!
Nintendo Life needs to scale down on commenting on rumors, especially ones that are fake like these.
As for a Smash 3DS & Wii U port... honestly I'm fatigued from Smash. Assuming a port does happen, I seriously doubt any newcomer I want will get in and I am not buying a game just to play with contents I can get on the 3DS game and characters I've already played with in Smash Wii U. I also do not see myself buying another Smash game for a long time, possibly ever.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is NOT a Lazy port !
If Nintendo was too lazy, they will never consider to remake Mario Kart 8 Wii U because they can said " I was Too Lazy to make some games. I would rather sleep all day long and forget everything."
Also, the title is Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, the number is still number 8, NOT 9, so it's NOT Mario Kart 9 with Completely New games.
Stop bashing Switch games with those Nonsense. Oh, btw Last time I sent you my photo if I owned Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. I still remembered my promise for you I had showed it to you just now. See ? Nobody can't stop the Hype of Mario Kart 8 Deluxe.
My kids will want it, I'm in team pass, but I don't like fighters so it isn't for me to say.
Still these appear fake and I'm hoping we get a Smash 5 instead of Smash 4 Deluxe
I definitely think it should happen, and I like the ideas these screenshots seem to express, but I'm about 85% sure they're fake.
All the timer/numbering graphics/fontwork are different from the current games, for example. I don't see why they would go through the trouble of changing them when it seems like there would be a lot more work for them to do in regards to merging the 3DS and Wii U versions.
(Though I really can't wait to play Smash run with friends on the big screen, so I reeeeeeallly hope at least that happens.)
@SLIGEACH_EIRE ... Somebody still has Switch envy... i look forward to your negative views on every single switch related story as it justifies my personal opinion of you which can not be repeated here.
But we all know you will buy the Switch eventually.
Oh, the pictures look fake but Smash Deluxe is coming, sooner rather than later.
@FriedSquid Well , they are recognizing that they are probably fake or at least that's what they believe, but they can't assure it and they are just sharing some information about it since fake or not, it's still relevant gaming news, or at least that's my perspective.
You never know, remember when I shared the pictures about the pokemon starters on the forums and everyone was assuring they were fake and they turned out to be real.
I do think that these ones are fake though, but we'll probably receive Smash news on E3 and chances are it will be a "deluxe edition". Maybe also a Mario Maker "deluxe" for Switch.
I am in the middle.It will make sense for a early 2018 game or in October 2017
After Brawl and the 4th entry, it may be difficult for developers to decide what to do for the next entry. The amount of time and content involved may also be a factor for not creating a new entry for now.
In which case a deluxe version with DLC and other minor additions would be the best way to go to bring a Smash game to the Switch. If this is done then I would like to see new characters, stages and a new game mode.
@CapeSmash if there's one thing sligeach knows it's being lazy. He's been porting over the same tired arguments over and over for ages now.
Nothing personal towards Ninty, but smash is a game I personally would put at the bottom of my list, along with all their platformers. Just not the games for me even though a lot of love went into developing them
4chan you idiot! Quit posting that crap already and let us see the official reveal trailer! Some people............
To be honest it doesn't matter if those screenshots are fake. You're a fool if you think smash isn't going to be either ported or a whole new one will be made for the switch. My guess is it'll be either annouced at E3 or next year. Either way is it'll be annouced before em day of 2018
I have never known anything good to come from 4chan.
..it's rumoured "The E3 'rumour' mill" could generate enough power to
run 200 Switches for three days!
Would not mind but still think we get smash bros 5 or 4.5.
I don't know why there aren't more Wii U to Switch ports which are easy to make and would quickly bolster the Switch's library. I had actually expected a bunch of Wii U ports to be available at launch since almost nobody purchased a Wii U to play those games anyway.
But as someone who did own a Wii U, if they're going to port Smash Wii U I hope they put some effort into improving the game in areas other than graphics. Something simple like making the rewards system not give out things you already have, the training mode not lying to you, chat in lobbies, or having a ladder so people of vastly different skill levels aren't matched up with each other would be nice.
fake
A real leak would be similar to the real leak of the Mario Rabbits game.
I'm on team fake just doesn't feel right but I sooooo hope it happens
@dazzleshell Since @SLIGEACH_EIRE won't respond to me (something I completely understand, to be quite honest), perhaps he'll answer you this question: if he hates the Switch so much, why does he use the logo for his Twitter avatar?
Game eventually real, screenshots fake
Im calling fake. Using the picture of yoshi and using the only shadow in the picture as referance on the left, ive worked out the direction of the atmospheric lighting. based on the shadow that target casts that means there should be one to the lower right of yoshi too.
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Ive recreated a rough idea of what that picture should look like.
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The lack of a rainbow trail behind Yoshi's thrown egg immediately gave these away as fake. That said, they are very well done fakes and I would love to see Smash Run included in a deluxe version of Smash 4.
Honestly, I have zero issue with an enhanced port of Smash. Why in the world should they start from the ground up on a new game when we already have a near-perfect game and an engine that looks phenomenal? Games like Smash and Mario Kart have just about reached the limit in terms of new and exciting things we can expect to see from them, plus they already look just about perfect. I do not want to wait years for a brand-new Smash that will be virtually identical to a port, anyway. Plus, with every new iteration, we run the risk of losing characters to cuts. I like the roster the way it is and would just want to see additions, which is perfectly possible with a port.
These are clearly doctored 3DS shots.
GA- FAAAAAAKE!
Team fake. They are a little off.
The last few DLC amiibo are coming to a very obsolete system and game, frankly even if the above is fake, I have expected a Smash port as soon as they finally shown Corrin, Cloud, Bayo amiibo.
I wouldn't mind a special edition like that, or even a deluxe that has every single character and stage from the entire series included.
But yeah, I'd say these screens are faked.
I think it's fake. The character models just don't look right with the background and there are some other small imperfections people have noticed.. However, the level of detail is very impressive, especially that Sticker Star stage.
I want break the targets to be real so badly!
I'm skeptical of the authenticity of the photos, but I wouldn't say "no" to a Switch version of Smash 4.
There is no showdown under Pikachu or Yoshi. Also look at link jumping, both shadows are exactly the same even though their body position is slightly different.
My best guess would be that these are fake images. Especially since Nintendo has been so tight lipped with their franchises over the years. Although, even if these are fake, it doesn't rule out the possibility of Smash on Switch.
While a Smash port is pretty much inevitable, these screenshots are fake.
The font for the percentages and character names are different from the Wii U version, which the port would be based on obviously. The character models are clearly the 3DS models too.
I'm optimistic and claim Team Real! It just looks like too much work put in for a simple prank.
They're probably fake but the Paper MARIO stage looks so nice
Would make sense to port Smash Bros. to the Switch, seeing the massive success of Mario Kart 8 Deluxe.
It really is a no-brainer and another instant system seller, which you can't have enough of on the Switch.
Especially since there will be a long first party drought between Splatoon2 in July and Super Mario Odyssey in December, it would be a perfect title to release in between those loooong months of waiting.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE It doesn't matter if it was a lazy port or not, because it was a smart one. You can't blame Nintendo for porting their games over from a failed system to a successful one. Not when each one of these ports will easily sell over a million coppies to people who for the most part have never played them before.
Personally, I never owned Mario Kart 8, so even as a Wii U owner I'm happy for the Deluxe port, but on the flip side, I already own Smash 4... I still would enjoy a port though if it included all the 3DS content, because I never owned the 3DS version. I would just hope we get an extra character or two to give me a little more incentive.
It would be easy money for Nintendo if they re released the Wii u version of Smash Bros, on the back of Mario Kart.
I think they will, eventually, along with other Wii u releases and this will be a good revenue stream for them, because folk will buy them even though they have already paid full price for the Wii u version.
The point everyone is missing is this:
These screens don't need to be real. Nintendo is going to start porting Smash to the Switch the very second it doesn't have a new game on the horizon.
It's a future proof, stop-gap title. Just like Mario Kart 8, it's been a profitable, finished product for years already. They just take some time to spruce up the graphics, maybe add a new character or level and DONE. They know it will sell gangbusters regardless of the conditions of it's launch and at full price, no less.
The only downside is, seemingly, Nintendo is partly relying on churning out some of their previous works, instead of going 110% on their new titles and new creative ideas for the Switch.
I'm on team fake. At least, I hope it's fake, unless this is an appetizer for the main course.
Team "idontknow".
I think it's very possible, but depending on the number of games coming to out this year, Nintendo might want to keep it in store for next year.
I am one with Team "It's Happening Eventually, So Why Argue?".
I agree with Sligeach here.
Does that mean I'm evil?
This leak is totally fake, but we all know that the game it's leaking will happen.
@FriedSquid
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@Elanczewski I legit looked at those screenshots and thought how good it looked in general (not as a comparison) - saying it's 'worse' than Wii-U seems a bit harsh - looks great to me (if it is actually real) and can't see how it's worse anyway.
Team Fake, but I think "Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo Switch" will be revealed during Nintendo Spotlight.
Definitely on Team Fake
@SLIGEACH_EIRE
Aren't all ports "lazy" then? The last of us, uncharted and GTA 5 from the top of my head. Most of these remasters add better graphics/framerater or some other small additions. But rarely do they add huge additions. Not that MK8DX added a lot of content, but its a decent and comparabel amount to the other remasters. I have no idea how that makes it a "lazy port" in your eyes.
Let me explain the definition for porting: "In software engineering, porting is the process of adapting software so that an executable program can be created for a computing environment that is different from the one for which it was originally designed" (Thanks to Wikipedia). Lazy porting means the game would run bad, which isn't the case here.
Do you wanna know what a lazy port is? The most recent PC version of Batman. That game was so bad they pulled the plug on Steam.
Side note: People are so salty over one game though, nobody requires you to buy it and its literally the only Wii U port on the Switch at this moment.
I prefer to err on the side of fake. Until it's officially confirmed, better fake than sorry
I miss break the targets. and stand on the platforms minigame from the original.
Even if it was true, I wouldn't released it this year. Mid 2018 would be a good time for that, imo. Too many WiiU/3DS ports already, we need something new as well.
Actually, where are the poll results?
@SLIGEACH_EIRE mk8 is better on the switch.your comment is lazy lol
@Pants98 all ports are lazy.remaster is different
@PanurgeJr no he hates on every post of course he won't talk back.i punked him a hundred times already
Team Fake, and Team "Smash Switch will be announced on December, with release date on 2018".
They won't announce it now, since that could take the wind out of Arms. Maybe they'll tease it though.
Fake- but the hype is for realzzzz
@SLIGEACH_EIRE • MK8 Deluxe is not a lazy port. You were probably too lazy too see the effort.
Team Fake. The screenshots don't look right. Something looks off about them. ANYONE can make fake screenshots these days.
Then again, I'll change my mind when E3 comes (if Smash does come). We'll see and judge once info comes.
I think the author's opinion can be deduced from the fact that "Team Fake" gets a capital "T" whereas "team Real" only gets lower-case.
Meh was never a big smash bros fan. That said I wouldn't be surprised one bit if Nintendo was working on it. It's a big franchise and the Switch needs big representation now. Personally I'm hoping there are quite a few E3 Switch surprises and hoping virtual console being one of them!! 😁
confirmed fake : http://gonintendo.com/stories/281370-rumor-images-for-super-smash-bros-switch-surface-update
cant wait for the real smash 5 tho, not another port
Pretty convinced those screenshots are fake, but that being said, a Smash 4 Switch port or Smash 5 are very likely announcements for E3.
@DarthNocturnal
Smash attacks can be charged by holding A and the direction you want them to go at the same time. So up+A would be an up smash. Tilts are activated by first pressing the direction and then the attack button. Regardless, he was talking about how the LEFT stick should be d-pad friendly, not the right stick which is commonly used for smash attacks. Most pro smash players turn smash stick off anyways in favor of tilt stick, which generally allows for more tech opportunities.
This is definitely fake, by the way. Not even realistic at all. I'd like smash 4 on the switch, but only if the competitive aspect of the game remained unchanged. Same characters, same legal stages, same game balance.
Unless they finally buff puff.
oh yay nother game i played on wii u what is switch deluxe version remasters system jesus if nintendo does htis wastes 45 mins time slot for garbage like this im done.
mario kart 8 i let slide but this would be unacceptable give us melee remake or get out buisness bad enough monster hunter is coming to switch put that garbage back on playsation only people in japan play mh people with brains in west play god eater or toukiden mentally ill people play mh these days pathetic
how about some new games instead of wii u ports
Probably fake, but I still think Smash 4 will hit the Switch.
Fake, it's too low on detail and Mario looks photoshopped.
Smash Bros is definitely coming to Switch soon, but these images scream fake to me.
im going with team fake, until confirmed otherwise of these screenshots. (hate to end up being disappointed of it and not being shown.)
I would much rather have a brand new Smash later next year with lots of levels based on Switch games.
Is fake. This screens are not convincing.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE
Dude, it's a port. It's supposed to be identical. It's easy to sit on the sidelines and sling insults at any game you don't own. They could add jack all for extra content and as long as it ran smooth, it would not be lazy. It would be par for the course. Additional content just puts it beyond par for the course.
They added all the DLC (50% more game, so game and a half total) and a brand new battle mode with 5 different competitive and team based modes, 8 new battle arenas, 5 new characters, new carts, new items, new gameplay mechanics... I mean wtf!??
Mario Kart 8 is a sterling example of a gratuitous, immaculate port. It's the exact opposite of lazy.
Lazy? Gtfo...
Yoshis Wooly World, Mario Maker, Hyrule Warriors Legends, DKC Returns, Xenoblade Chronicles, Disgaea 5, I Am Setsuna, Resident Evil Rvelations... practically every port on Nintendo consoles I can think of offered less than MK8 Deluxe. By your logic all ports are lazy. Such in insulting word to the good developers working hard to bring a quality port. I don't even think you're using logic. I think you treat "lazy" as a buzzword for any game you're salty over not owning
I want to be in team real. This could be the ESRB leak all over again.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Meh, Mario Kart 8 has updated a lot more than many big "not" lazy ports in the past... heck there have been ports made in the past (and there will be in the future) that are far worse/broken. Mario Kart did add new functionality, improved graphics & fixes that Nintendo likely wouldn't have invested into for the WiiU version that had made it's money.
You're entitled to your opinion, but it does sound like you've been spoiled by Nintendo ports of the past that made a little effort. There's SO much crap out there that getting a port that WORKS isn't always guaranteed.
Im certainly team "Probably Smash 4 on switch, combining content of both the 3DS and WiiU versions, DLC and then some"
Very unlikely to see anything brand new anytime soon, considering the usual dev cycles of Smash games. But an enhanced remake ?
I think that's very likely.
The only way I'd get hyped, is if they actually put a story mode into it. For some reason, when I owned the Wii U, I hated this Smash compared to the Wii and Gamecube's version, and the Wii version still resides as the best one to me, but in all honesty (and I'm sure I'll get hate for this) all of the Wii U games seemed rushed and kind of 'cheap' compared to what nintendo actually does with games in the past...'cheap' as in quick to beat and not as 'wonderful or exciting' as what they were on the Wii and in the past. I honestly hope that they're working on a new Smash, as I'm thinking that since they only reason one Smash and one Kart per system, I'd be thinking that this would be the only Smash on the Switch...a re-release, just like I'm thinking Mario Kart 8 will be the only mario kart on the switch...which is also a re-release. I guess I'd rather see new versions of each, especially the double rider from gamecube in a new Mario Kart title (especially since they could easily add way more players...how about Captain Olimar with Pikmin or even Kirby?) With so many beloved IP's, they could definitely add even more!!!!
Shame on you, NintendoLife. Show some restraint and actually make an attempt to verify a rumor before just carelessly splashing it on your homepage. It's very disappointing that so many game sites fell for this — it doesn't bode well for the state of the industry that the gaming media are so easily and frequently misled.
@DanteSolablood Sony is particularly known for their lazy port jobs.
No nee dto look further than their HD versions of former PS2 titles on PS3.
Inconsistent resolutions, animation and audio bugs, latency issues etc. And all in all, they simply released the same game just upscaled.
Same goes for the plethora of PS3 to PS4 ports. Usually just a GOTY version with a higher framerate.
Compare it to some of Nintendos ports:
Ocarina and Majora for 3DS have enjoyed a complete makeover in terms of visuals. Wind Waker on WiiU has a new lighting engine and several new features to enhance the experience.
MK8DX fixed a lot of flaws, added new content, introduced a fan favorite mode and runs like a charm. Imo, the exact opposite of a "lazy port / rerelease" if you compare it directly to their competitors work.
Who knows? Even if it is fake we'll probably get a deluxe port of Smash sooner or later. I wouldn't be surprised to see one at E3.
I think the screenshot are fake, but I do think a Smash 4 port with both Wii U and 3DS content has a good chance of being announced.
Let me be your fantasy
Yoshi in his Target Smash stage from Melee was a giant red flag for me. I'll be happy if Target Smash replaces Target Blast, but why reuse the stages from Melee, as opposed to making an original stage for each character? Speaking of, the image means that every single character will have a stage of their own in Target Smash, which definitely seems too good to be true. I'm on team fake for this one, as much as I wish it were real.
@BensonUii smash is kinda based around analog movement, d-pad makes it much harder precisely do things (and dashing is an issue too).
I'm a permanent pessimist, so I seriously doubt it'll be a thing.
Smash 4, Switch edition. It will happen!
Poor Arms. This is not good timing for leak shots. That game is a new IP and hopefully it gets a fair shot to sell well. Living in Smash's shadow will hurt. With all that is coming in 2017, Smash could have been an E3 2018 announcement with a holiday 2018 release. I don't see the need for it right now.
I would like a porting of Smash bros from WiiU, it would be even better a porting of smash bros with all the content from both WiiU and 3DS, but for me to have a new Smash bros exclusive for the Switch is even more important so the best would be if they make a porting of the previous game soon and release a new Smash bros exclusive for the Switch later, let's say after like two years maybe, that would be perfect imo. I did not expect a new Smash bros game so soon, but if it is going to be a porting of the WiiU game it would be more likely to happen
Where is my leak proof glue?
"the chances of the remaster / re-release / deluxe version being an E3 surprise."
When this gets announced at E3 it's hardly going to be a surprise.
Not my favourite series but if it's as good a port as MK8D I may be tempted into giving it a try.
@Nintendofan83
Arms will be fine. Apart from being labelled 'fighting' they're very different games. 2D Vs 3D, different mechanics, different characters. Look how many platformers Nintendo pump out and they all find an audience.
4chan should stick what its best at: annoying Shia Labeouf
I just don't get Smash Bros. I'm not a huge fighting game fan (though always love me a bit of classic Street Fighter), but I never have a clue what's going on and when I try and play it I get so bored. Give me a Metroid game any day of the week. Shame I'm in the minority.
Smash on Switch is an inevitability, but too many major series releases early on in a system's lifespan could cause a drought later on... the Switch already has a decent assortment of games for the next year that have either already been announced, or are expected to be announced at E3, so it's unlikely that Smash Bros will be added to that line-up (next year's E3 is probably more likely).
There's also the fact that the Switch is receiving a lot of ports of older games at the moment anyway due to being a new console, but if that goes on for too long it could give people the wrong impression, so Nintendo will likely want to keep that to a minimum.
That said, the Virtual Console does get around this issue by being a dedicated service for ports, and this is also a possibility that people seem to be overlooking... a VC port of an older Smash Bros game could be used as a filler until they release a new Smash Bros game on the Switch, and would be a perfect way to launch the Virtual Console... especially if they go with Melee, which is widely considered to be the best Smash Bros game ever.
Don't care if it's fake or not, we need a SSB on Switch (or at least I want one)
It will happen, but this seems fake unfortunately. Still, I'M HYPED.
@Caryslan I'm guessing @SLIGEACH_EIRE is referring to the people that only buy one fighting game for their consoles. If they had to choose between Smash Bros or ARMS the likelihood of them choosing Smash Bros is probably pretty high.
In that scenario, it would be better for them to announce Smash Bros. after ARMS has gotten a chance to build up its community and fanbase.
I don't really have a lot of money to spend on games right now so I normally have to pick and choose what I want to play.
Team Fake, this is just upscaled citra
I'm not sure about this....if indeed Nintendo decides to put Smash Bros 4 on to Switch, I'm not sure I'd buy it. I got as much out of Smash Wii U that I could, and I did the same with Smash 3DS. Now I know that there are those who didn't buy either of those, more likely those who didn't buy the Wii U version simply because of that console's overall lack of sales. But unlike Mario Kart 8, which I personally get more out of the Kart series than I ever did with Smash, I just don't think I'll be triple-dipping on this one. Unless there's some major new content. Until then, I'll just wait for the next proper new release for Smash Bros and continue to play my 3DS/Wii U versions whenever I'm around friends until Smash 5 is a thing.
Fake or real - it's all very meh
I'm still one of those people that just doesn't get Smash. I never even know what's going on in the game. There's just random things flying around, and absurd damage numbers. My feeling is I suck horribly at it, yet some competitive players I played with a few times told me I wasn't actually bad...they beat me consistently of course, but they didn't think I was sucking so badly. Which makes me even more confused because I still had no idea what was going on or what I was doing and somehow was still doing it right?
Arms just feels a LOT more logical to me, although I love all the animations in Smash.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE I was actually just thinking about the same thing yesterday and going to post it next time a Smash article came up. You're exactly right on this one. Smash is their established fighter, and Arms is set to be their new even more pure fighter. Releasing/announcing them together is self defeating. Plus Smash already had it's day in the sun. WiiU might not have sold much but 3DS sure did.
I think they wild be stupid not too.
Seems fake, but I do think it'll happen.
Oh no. Not an other one. We had it just a little time ago on WII U. We want something else from you Nintendo! Come with new ideas. We want other kind of games. You are on repeat this way! Just being honest here
I acknowledge the series' popularity and financial success and for the sake of the Switch and its fanbase I do hope it makes its way to the Switch in some way. All I hope is they spend as little time on it during E3 and instyead spend more time teasing us with new titles.
I understand the Wii U wasn't a success but I don't want the Switch's first year to be dominated by re-releases. MK8 and SSB and I can understand, big franchises with plenty of long legs but lets leave it at that!
Quoting Gravity Falls' Soos (and I hope @Not_Soos can post a captioned pic of the exact scene from the show's finale), these screenshots "can make us believe that everything is possible", as much of a bunch of fake junk as pre-E3 leaks can be.
@AlexSora89 Sorry, I never learned how to embed images.
But hopefully Dead Fish Butt Sewn to a Monkey Carcass joins the Smash roster this time around. Or Stan--he runs slower, but jumps higher.
CONFIRMED FAKE: It was created/"leaked" by Josh from The Bit Block.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BavN3rtsWqA
@flapjackashley2 Was just about to share, myself. I had a feeling he could be behind it, given his Make Believe series and the fact he mentioned recently he was working on something new and exciting.
Regardless of what people may think about Josh Thomas, he did a phenomenal job on this leak.
@Not_Soos
It's square bracket ("["), followed by "img", then closed square bracket, then the image URL, then again "/img" (with a slash this time) within square brackets again, with no spaces inbetween.
Have at it.
@AlexSora89 "Thanks, dog! You must be some kinda wizard."
(I couldn't find a still image of the scene in question from the finale, so you'll just have to accept this. )
@Not_Soos
It's still a freaking amazing episode.
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