Wish this was Retro-Bit doing this, especially if there is a reissue cartridge to be had. Taito had so many bangers in the last act of the NES; I will definitely buy this digitally and hope that someone does something with Panic Restaurant!
@johnvboy we cant really know that, preorders will sell out day 1, its not the point. You take anyone from excited to a range of not anymore-pissed off its not good for you.
bottom line is they alienated customers and thats not good business.
@Shoofighter I agree about the DLC, but that would be something a company should be screaming with a price hike of this magnitude.
One thing I am thinking; and is something that should have explicitly been communicated if true; is that Nintendo counts on families in particular, but a lot of users taking advantage of the game sharing. That would be certainly more justifiable. Hell, I would be promoting it as "Buy MKW and you can play with up to 3 friends around the world on a single cart! You and your family can play local coop from one cart for one great price!". Even then its only good for online and doesnt mean you have 3 full single player experiences but still, something.
when you leave that to consumer inference, which I have yet to see, it seems like the message is "80 bucks deal with it" instead of "We have increased prices, but we feel like the value of sharing your games for this price justifies our policy" and I feel like I am being very forgiving here.
@Jester676 I was thinking during the direct "Why arent you giving me a price". It drums up negativity when you arent up front with everything. "Look at all the shiny stuff! Look how awesome it is" [go to our website in a couple hours and find out prices because we dont want to tell you in our 60 minute hype video]
@johnvboy online raging is what people do, but with that to the side, and the likely success notwithstanding, to say that a portion of consumers have not been alienated is inaccurate.
@ChromaticDracula Im with you, had no idea about this, just bought it. Going to have to check out that Rogue Flight too...
Gaming is a bit of a double edged sword in this regard. On one hand, it is easier than ever for a studio of any size to get their game out on any platform.
On the other, it is seemingly impossible to keep up with everything that comes out, let alone play it all.
I have a whole crapton hooked up to the TV but I dont have anything drawing power outside of use besides my Switch dock and Series X, both of which get daily use.
Not just to avoid waste, but to avoid older tech frying while plugged in. My brother lost his Wii (and 1000ish dollars of VC games) and his PS2 that way.
I think it comes down to what does the word mean to you? at this point a 25 year old who grew up with the Wii isn't wrong if he thinks THAT is retro. Does it refer to a specific period of gaming? A style of game or aesthetic? X amount of years backwards in your life?
Thanks to the co-opting of the term through pop culture and marketing for the last decade plus that term has always had some connotation of 80s and 90s look, feel and aesthetic; and that seems to be what is generally considered retro among the gamers I associate with (Aged late 20s to mid 50s). I am 42 and while I dont really use the term myself, when I hear it I think of NES-N64. My brain doesn't compute Ps2 and beyond "retro" but 2000 was almost 25 years ago [JFC].
Time is a crazy thing. And how we process it changes as we age. NES to SNES felt like an eternity when I was a kid. My XSX feels new still but Series X and Ps5 are in their fourth year already. Switch is 25 percent through its 8th(!!!!!) year. Xbox One/Ps4 are over a decade old and Xbox 360 is 20 next year; So the term is going to be in perpetual flux. I think you'll see a gaggle of new minds looking back on the retro brilliance of Bioshock and Gears of War in the next few years. If you're in your early 20s now, 2007 was an eternity ago.
@BHPM i had not considered that; hopefully its not spite, those are excellent games and why would any company see the price paid online for 30 year old carts and not want some of that cheese.
But then again The Disney Afternoon Collection is STILL not on the Switch, so Im not holding my breath regardless of the reason, but it sure would be nice
In the meantime we have alternate means to play such things
@frogopus @Twilite9 Upon checking Avenging Spirit Arcade boy does that select screen seem like exactly what was described https://youtu.be/XvbYmNLbIvI?t=108
First time I saw an NES in person was at my Uncle's apartment. it was 1986 and had maybe about 5 minutes to play. By summer 87 I had a good friend from school with a Dad who loved Nintendo (and we had a pretty sweet video store nearby to rent from) and I was often invited to play with them. It was in his basement I fell in love with my beloved Mega Man and have vivid memories of Contra, Castlevania, Karnov, Mario 2, Tiger Heli, Karate Kid, Predator and so much more.
My family got ours summer of 89 and it was Mega Man 2 that turned me from a kid who loved Nintendo to a lifelong gamer.
Everyone's first system is special; whether it was Atari 2600 or PS5. Im grateful the NES was mine. Just beyond the primordial Atari and past the 83 crash; an exciting new spectrum in the cultural zeitgeist. Made me really appreciate the advances of the 90s to the comparative insanity of modern games.
Im still on a neverending path as a gamer, and I couldnt be more thankful for the Famicom's existence as the foundation for great memories with the NES as a kid and a lifelong love of video games.
Currently rocking this on Xbox Game Pass and I am really having fun with it. It will end up being a "1000 it on game pass and buy the physical for switch" deals for me
If someone could show me the correlation between boycotting a game and actual better wages etc for voice actors, sure. This IMO is not how things will get changed, and my plans to play the game remain the same. When I have time, and if it is at a price I like.
I am pretty stoked for Fist of the North Star Fitness Boxing.
And since the options for voting are kind of specific, it was alright, any news on MP4 would have been nice and I dont expect new Mario/DK but that would be pretty sweet if something came like Mario 64 on the Odyssey engine, let alone SMO2. A quality DKC game would please me greatly but I would think we would have at least heard some rumors preceding such games.
I would guess that Turtles in Time and Shredder's Revenge and the OG NES will be 1, 2 and 3. Regardless I am quite intrigued to see what the NL Community thinks.
The GCN TMNT games were a lot of fun to play 4 player couch co-op; it will be interesting to see where they shake out
I definitely remember the Metroid NES commercial making an impression on my 80s cartoon addled 6 and 7 year old brain... and then Mother Brain from Captain N gave me some more familiarity but I dont think I would have played it til 1990 on a couple of rentals. I remember enjoying it but not having as much fun as other titles. I didnt come to appreciate this one fully til I was an adult.
Super Metroid though; I fell in love with that game. It got to the point id rent it once a month to beat the damn thing. An all time favorite to be sure.
@Matty1988 More Goemon would be welcome for damn sure, but to discard the Konami name in general is disappointing, especially for those of us who remember them as the powerhouse they once were.
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Re: Rare NES Platformer 'Little Samson' Is Coming To Switch In 2026
Wish this was Retro-Bit doing this, especially if there is a reissue cartridge to be had. Taito had so many bangers in the last act of the NES; I will definitely buy this digitally and hope that someone does something with Panic Restaurant!
Re: Poll: GameStop Offers A Tempting Switch 2 Trade-In Deal, But Is It Really Worth It?
I do not get rid of systems. So no, but certainly not shedding one of my favorites.
Re: Opinion: A Few Too Many Questions & Unwelcome Surprises Are Taking The Shine Off The Switch 2 Reveal
@johnvboy OK bud, no one has a problem. No one who was hyped has been alienated. Big N can do no wrong. Whatever.
Re: Opinion: A Few Too Many Questions & Unwelcome Surprises Are Taking The Shine Off The Switch 2 Reveal
@jfp as I said, it should have been in the video.
Re: Opinion: A Few Too Many Questions & Unwelcome Surprises Are Taking The Shine Off The Switch 2 Reveal
@johnvboy we cant really know that, preorders will sell out day 1, its not the point. You take anyone from excited to a range of not anymore-pissed off its not good for you.
bottom line is they alienated customers and thats not good business.
Re: Opinion: A Few Too Many Questions & Unwelcome Surprises Are Taking The Shine Off The Switch 2 Reveal
@Shoofighter I agree about the DLC, but that would be something a company should be screaming with a price hike of this magnitude.
One thing I am thinking; and is something that should have explicitly been communicated if true; is that Nintendo counts on families in particular, but a lot of users taking advantage of the game sharing. That would be certainly more justifiable. Hell, I would be promoting it as "Buy MKW and you can play with up to 3 friends around the world on a single cart! You and your family can play local coop from one cart for one great price!". Even then its only good for online and doesnt mean you have 3 full single player experiences but still, something.
when you leave that to consumer inference, which I have yet to see, it seems like the message is "80 bucks deal with it" instead of "We have increased prices, but we feel like the value of sharing your games for this price justifies our policy" and I feel like I am being very forgiving here.
Re: Opinion: A Few Too Many Questions & Unwelcome Surprises Are Taking The Shine Off The Switch 2 Reveal
@Jester676 I was thinking during the direct "Why arent you giving me a price". It drums up negativity when you arent up front with everything. "Look at all the shiny stuff! Look how awesome it is" [go to our website in a couple hours and find out prices because we dont want to tell you in our 60 minute hype video]
Re: Opinion: A Few Too Many Questions & Unwelcome Surprises Are Taking The Shine Off The Switch 2 Reveal
@johnvboy online raging is what people do, but with that to the side, and the likely success notwithstanding, to say that a portion of consumers have not been alienated is inaccurate.
Re: Opinion: A Few Too Many Questions & Unwelcome Surprises Are Taking The Shine Off The Switch 2 Reveal
In Canada the base system is 630 dollars. Thats higher than I was willing to pay for day one.
The game prices on the other hand mean MKW will be 100 dollars here and thats fing ridiculous.
Also, the battery life doesnt look particularly good; So now I am thinking I will wait for a revision with an improved battery like I did with S1
These issues in particular have taken my excitement from "Take my money day 1!" on 4/1 to "meh, I will wait I guess" on 4/2
Re: Chrono Trigger To Celebrate 30th Anniversary With "Various Projects"
Pixel remaster or just direct port PLEASE
Re: Star Fox-Inspired Space Shooter 'FUR Squadron' Is Getting A Switch 2 Sequel This Year
@ChromaticDracula Im with you, had no idea about this, just bought it. Going to have to check out that Rogue Flight too...
Gaming is a bit of a double edged sword in this regard. On one hand, it is easier than ever for a studio of any size to get their game out on any platform.
On the other, it is seemingly impossible to keep up with everything that comes out, let alone play it all.
Re: Opinion: With Forecasts Slashed (Again), Absolutely Everyone's Antsy For Switch 2 ASAP
I have never bought a console day one, and I think I shall this time.
I think it will be June, but October would be nice.
Re: Random: Man Sets World Record By Connecting 400+ Working Game Consoles To One TV
I have a whole crapton hooked up to the TV but I dont have anything drawing power outside of use besides my Switch dock and Series X, both of which get daily use.
Not just to avoid waste, but to avoid older tech frying while plugged in. My brother lost his Wii (and 1000ish dollars of VC games) and his PS2 that way.
Re: Nintendo Expands Switch Online's Game Boy Library With Five More Classics
YES!!!!!!
@Koxen they are not ports, but reuse elements and bosses. I would recommend you play V in particular for original bosses
Re: Talking Point: How Do You Define 'Retro'?
I think it comes down to what does the word mean to you? at this point a 25 year old who grew up with the Wii isn't wrong if he thinks THAT is retro. Does it refer to a specific period of gaming? A style of game or aesthetic? X amount of years backwards in your life?
Thanks to the co-opting of the term through pop culture and marketing for the last decade plus that term has always had some connotation of 80s and 90s look, feel and aesthetic; and that seems to be what is generally considered retro among the gamers I associate with (Aged late 20s to mid 50s). I am 42 and while I dont really use the term myself, when I hear it I think of NES-N64. My brain doesn't compute Ps2 and beyond "retro" but 2000 was almost 25 years ago [JFC].
Time is a crazy thing. And how we process it changes as we age. NES to SNES felt like an eternity when I was a kid. My XSX feels new still but Series X and Ps5 are in their fourth year already. Switch is 25 percent through its 8th(!!!!!) year. Xbox One/Ps4 are over a decade old and Xbox 360 is 20 next year; So the term is going to be in perpetual flux. I think you'll see a gaggle of new minds looking back on the retro brilliance of Bioshock and Gears of War in the next few years. If you're in your early 20s now, 2007 was an eternity ago.
Re: Taito Milestones 3 Coming Winter 2024, First Batch Of Games Revealed
@BHPM i had not considered that; hopefully its not spite, those are excellent games and why would any company see the price paid online for 30 year old carts and not want some of that cheese.
But then again The Disney Afternoon Collection is STILL not on the Switch, so Im not holding my breath regardless of the reason, but it sure would be nice
In the meantime we have alternate means to play such things
Re: Taito Milestones 3 Coming Winter 2024, First Batch Of Games Revealed
Cool.
I would LOVE a Flintstones/Jetsons collection covering NES/GB/SNES
but more than anything a collection of both Power Blades, Little Samson and Panic Restaurant
Re: Talking Point: What Is Your Video Game Palate Cleanser?
I love to do a run on Mega Man 2,3,4 or X, but just ripping through Ducktales on NES always has me ready for next.
Re: Talking Point: Which Classic Cartoons Deserve The Shredder's Revenge Treatment?
id play the hell out of all these
Re: Talking Point: Zelda: TOTK Isn't A Shoo-In For GOTY 2023, And That's A Good Thing
That whole list is competition. Plus we have MK12 a month away.
A pretty damned good year for gaming
Re: Memory Pak: Making Contact With The "Ungoogleable" Game I Couldn't Quite Remember
@mlt that sucks man. thankfully it is not a game that breaks the bank to obtain if you ever wish to do so
Re: Memory Pak: Making Contact With The "Ungoogleable" Game I Couldn't Quite Remember
@frogopus @Twilite9 Upon checking Avenging Spirit Arcade boy does that select screen seem like exactly what was described https://youtu.be/XvbYmNLbIvI?t=108
Re: Memory Pak: Making Contact With The "Ungoogleable" Game I Couldn't Quite Remember
@Twilite9 you sent my brain spinning with this. You are right, can't find anything of the sort. Closest you described was this https://thegamehoard.com/2020/11/12/the-ninja-kids-arcade/ but all ninjas
Re: Anniversary: Nintendo Famicom, The NES' Japanese Sibling, Is 40 Years Old
First time I saw an NES in person was at my Uncle's apartment. it was 1986 and had maybe about 5 minutes to play. By summer 87 I had a good friend from school with a Dad who loved Nintendo (and we had a pretty sweet video store nearby to rent from) and I was often invited to play with them. It was in his basement I fell in love with my beloved Mega Man and have vivid memories of Contra, Castlevania, Karnov, Mario 2, Tiger Heli, Karate Kid, Predator and so much more.
My family got ours summer of 89 and it was Mega Man 2 that turned me from a kid who loved Nintendo to a lifelong gamer.
Everyone's first system is special; whether it was Atari 2600 or PS5. Im grateful the NES was mine. Just beyond the primordial Atari and past the 83 crash; an exciting new spectrum in the cultural zeitgeist. Made me really appreciate the advances of the 90s to the comparative insanity of modern games.
Im still on a neverending path as a gamer, and I couldnt be more thankful for the Famicom's existence as the foundation for great memories with the NES as a kid and a lifelong love of video games.
Re: Excellent Sci-Fi Survival Horror Signalis Scores A Physical Switch Release
Currently rocking this on Xbox Game Pass and I am really having fun with it. It will end up being a "1000 it on game pass and buy the physical for switch" deals for me
Re: Talking Point: Given The Voice Artist Controversy, Will You Be Boycotting Bayonetta 3?
If someone could show me the correlation between boycotting a game and actual better wages etc for voice actors, sure. This IMO is not how things will get changed, and my plans to play the game remain the same. When I have time, and if it is at a price I like.
Re: Talking Point: What Did You Think Of The September 2022 Nintendo Direct?
I am pretty stoked for Fist of the North Star Fitness Boxing.
And since the options for voting are kind of specific, it was alright, any news on MP4 would have been nice and I dont expect new Mario/DK but that would be pretty sweet if something came like Mario 64 on the Odyssey engine, let alone SMO2. A quality DKC game would please me greatly but I would think we would have at least heard some rumors preceding such games.
Re: Talking Point: What Was Your First Legend Of Zelda Game?
NES Zelda at a friends place circa 87-88. Good times.
Re: Poll: What's The Best Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Game?
I would guess that Turtles in Time and Shredder's Revenge and the OG NES will be 1, 2 and 3. Regardless I am quite intrigued to see what the NL Community thinks.
The GCN TMNT games were a lot of fun to play 4 player couch co-op; it will be interesting to see where they shake out
Re: Talking Point: How Were You Introduced To Metroid?
I definitely remember the Metroid NES commercial making an impression on my 80s cartoon addled 6 and 7 year old brain... and then Mother Brain from Captain N gave me some more familiarity but I dont think I would have played it til 1990 on a couple of rentals. I remember enjoying it but not having as much fun as other titles. I didnt come to appreciate this one fully til I was an adult.
Super Metroid though; I fell in love with that game. It got to the point id rent it once a month to beat the damn thing. An all time favorite to be sure.
Re: Konami Looks To Change Its Name, Because Why Not
@Matty1988 More Goemon would be welcome for damn sure, but to discard the Konami name in general is disappointing, especially for those of us who remember them as the powerhouse they once were.