And in each legends he is depicted as the Hero, never it is said it's Link or any other name. The hero can be of any gender as long as it has the spirit of the original hero that is the Link from Skyward Sword.
Zelda is a bit different since it's tied to her sharing the blood of the goddess who took an human form named Zelda, and it became a tradition to name each female newborn in the royal family Zelda in honor of Hylia Human incarnation.
Each new Zelda are maybe the goddess reincarnating each time, which also add the always missing mother of Zelda which probably died when giving birth.
The truth behind this change is obviously to prevent people to reproduce Lyn body and make her wear the underwear that got censored on her but not on other characters.
They should just make every female character wear burqa so you can't differentiate them and not sexualize them and they end up all the same because diversity and choice is bad. sarcasm off
Also Link is never the same person except for some sequels like Majora's Mask and the Wind Waker series.
Quoting Demise: "Though this is not the end. My hate... never perishes. It is born anew in a cycle with no end! I will rise again. Those like you... Those who share the blood of the goddess and the spirit of the hero... They are eternally bound to this curse. An incarnation of my hatred shall ever follow your kind, dooming them to wander a blood-soaked sea of darkness for all time!"
So any character can end up with the spirit of the hero, for the blood of the goddess it's mostly the lineage of the original Zelda, that turned into a royal family over generations and each new female newborn in their family are named Zelda in honor to the goddess human self I believe, this also show how Zelda only has a father and never a mother in each games.
They probably disabled it so people won't make their characters to looks like Lyn, but you know other than remove the slider they should of just changed the minimum size if they didn't wanted that. They decided to go the draconian way by removing the whole thing.
Next thing we know Nintendo will remove any kind of female customization in their next game and everyone will be stuck with the predetermined white woman with average bust that is at least 18 years old and does not look that sexy and more of a nerd.
You know what I fear about Treehouse censorship ? If they changed anything to SMT x FE, by removing some of the theme SMT is familiar with like religious content. Hopefully Atlus will have the last words on it.
If the feature never was removed no one would of complained because a bust slider is in a lot of customization in games. Games that don't have the bust slider are just made that way, this one had one and it got removed making it more sexualized than if they kept it. If it stayed no one would of complained about the size of the breast at all.
It seems they promote the conservative way of everyone must look the same and diversity is bad. Imagine if they white washed every characters and didn't show any difference of skin color than just white.
This just proves Treehouse mentality that every women need to have the same breast size because screw diversity and tiny and big breast is disgusting in their eyes, because of how sexualized they think they are.
Would you like to be in a country that will not accept women of certain breast size because they see it as sexualized ? Small breast will be seen as pedo trap and big breast will be seen as girl trying to be a slut.
Not every female has B or C cup, some are A, D, etc. But you know it doesn't matter in the west everything need to be the same to stick to the norm because diversity will make it so controversial.
@MitchVogel You have the menu that work like Earthbound and you can set an AI for your other characters. The combat show only the monsters facing you like Earthbound instead of side sprites showing the heroes at the same time.
DQ is less story heavy than Final Fantasy, it's more gameplay driven.
@Therad I got a game corrupted on the PSTV digitally, I could play it fine but some part were corrupted and just gave a black screen, I ended up needing to redownload the whole game and losing my save file because of that. ( Sony only let you keep your save file if you pay PS+, you can't backup on PC since it register the whole game )
I also got the same corruption with Bravely Default at least 3 times, the problem being the auto-save feature.
Four Swords happened before OoT then after the Split continued on the Twilight Princess and Majora's Mask Path. This game could be the incarnation of Four Sword Heroes in the Defeated timeline. There's still no Four Sword Links in the Wind Waker timeline.
`The problem with digital games is they are more prone to corruption of data and they will need an even bigger space in the future. Remember when the games back then were not even 1 MB and today we got games that are between 15 to 30 GB in size.
Some people said that not only lingerie got removed from the game. What is supposed to be removed or edited: Film Grain, Boobs jiggle physics, part of the story removed completely or edited, dialogue removed/edited, flashback of a 30 years old doing a bikini shoot edited.
If this was a T rated game with characters being 14 and 15 years old I would understand. But it's an M rated game with Mature grown up characters, this is why there's an uproar. It's not because people want the pervy outfits it's just the censorship was not needed for the audience this game is aimed at.
The point is not people would miss those costume but that they are censoring a game made for a 17+ audience, meanwhile they approve everything about Senran Kagura and Bayonetta both having the same Mature rating.
The fact is it will hurt the sales of the game even more, it took 10 years to bring that series back in the west and we get this.
It's like they are trying really hard to make this game not successful in the west so they never localize another one again.
First the game barely got any marketing in the west since the Treehouse at E3 2015, then NA get digital only. Now they remove mature content in a 17+ Mature game, meanwhile games like Senra Kagura on 3DS is alright in their eyes. Then trying to bandaid the removal of those outfit they add Samus and Zelda outfits so we get the same amount of content. Just get the lingerie outfits as DLC and I'm sure it will sell, this seems the only option left to get that content now.
It's just the west is getting a minor version of the original game with contents missing. What people hate is not really that they can't see their characters bare skin it's the principle of a mature game made for 17+ and not for kids getting censored, also how would a parent buy that game for a kid when the game is Digital only in NA ? It's physical in europe but even it's just bad parentship if they buy a mature game for kids and they are more of a minority.
The Samus and Zelda outfits are just a little bandaid option to say we will get the same amount of content as Japan but with no bare skin showed, this also break the immersion more, even Ayane fit more in the game than Samus and Zelda.
The principle of censoring a mature game that is made for a mature audience is what is the problem. Replcing them by Zelda and Samus outfits that breaks more the immersion of the game is also another low blow. I'm sure this will affect the sales of the game even more and then no other Fatal Frame will come to the west because of lost of interest in the series. It was already bad that the game is digital only in NA. It's like they want to kill the series in the west so they need a reason for it to be less popular and not bring more of it.
I already watched the whole game in Japanese and I liked it. I hope there's no censorship with the outfits. I want those lingerie outfits in the western release.
I would prefer having at least a 3DS cart slot. Going full digital would require a huge amount of space on the console, some games are 30GB+. The PSTV and Vita already got a problem with their expensive memory cards. At least the PSTV can read physical Vita carts and has access to PS1 and PSP digital games with PS4 streaming.
The Pokemon Company is fine with fanpics and doujin being sold mostly if it's pokemon trainers showing up in them. But if Pokemons start to show up a lot they decide to strike.
I despise Mobile Gaming, for me it's just a huge pile of scam with infinite games that never end and ask you to pay to progress or just wait weeks to get where you can get in seconds by paying.
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Re: Editorial: Linkle May be a Clunky Introduction For a 'Female Link', But Opens Up Interesting Possibilities
And in each legends he is depicted as the Hero, never it is said it's Link or any other name. The hero can be of any gender as long as it has the spirit of the original hero that is the Link from Skyward Sword.
Zelda is a bit different since it's tied to her sharing the blood of the goddess who took an human form named Zelda, and it became a tradition to name each female newborn in the royal family Zelda in honor of Hylia Human incarnation.
Each new Zelda are maybe the goddess reincarnating each time, which also add the always missing mother of Zelda which probably died when giving birth.
Re: You Can't Alter The Chest Size Of Female Characters In The Western Version Of Xenoblade Chronicles X
The truth behind this change is obviously to prevent people to reproduce Lyn body and make her wear the underwear that got censored on her but not on other characters.
Re: You Can't Alter The Chest Size Of Female Characters In The Western Version Of Xenoblade Chronicles X
They should just make every female character wear burqa so you can't differentiate them and not sexualize them and they end up all the same because diversity and choice is bad. sarcasm off
Re: Editorial: Linkle May be a Clunky Introduction For a 'Female Link', But Opens Up Interesting Possibilities
Also Link is never the same person except for some sequels like Majora's Mask and the Wind Waker series.
Quoting Demise:
"Though this is not the end. My hate... never perishes. It is born anew in a cycle with no end! I will rise again. Those like you... Those who share the blood of the goddess and the spirit of the hero... They are eternally bound to this curse. An incarnation of my hatred shall ever follow your kind, dooming them to wander a blood-soaked sea of darkness for all time!"
So any character can end up with the spirit of the hero, for the blood of the goddess it's mostly the lineage of the original Zelda, that turned into a royal family over generations and each new female newborn in their family are named Zelda in honor to the goddess human self I believe, this also show how Zelda only has a father and never a mother in each games.
Re: You Can't Alter The Chest Size Of Female Characters In The Western Version Of Xenoblade Chronicles X
They probably disabled it so people won't make their characters to looks like Lyn, but you know other than remove the slider they should of just changed the minimum size if they didn't wanted that. They decided to go the draconian way by removing the whole thing.
Next thing we know Nintendo will remove any kind of female customization in their next game and everyone will be stuck with the predetermined white woman with average bust that is at least 18 years old and does not look that sexy and more of a nerd.
Re: You Can't Alter The Chest Size Of Female Characters In The Western Version Of Xenoblade Chronicles X
You know what I fear about Treehouse censorship ? If they changed anything to SMT x FE, by removing some of the theme SMT is familiar with like religious content. Hopefully Atlus will have the last words on it.
Re: You Can't Alter The Chest Size Of Female Characters In The Western Version Of Xenoblade Chronicles X
If the feature never was removed no one would of complained because a bust slider is in a lot of customization in games. Games that don't have the bust slider are just made that way, this one had one and it got removed making it more sexualized than if they kept it. If it stayed no one would of complained about the size of the breast at all.
It seems they promote the conservative way of everyone must look the same and diversity is bad. Imagine if they white washed every characters and didn't show any difference of skin color than just white.
Re: You Can't Alter The Chest Size Of Female Characters In The Western Version Of Xenoblade Chronicles X
This just proves Treehouse mentality that every women need to have the same breast size because screw diversity and tiny and big breast is disgusting in their eyes, because of how sexualized they think they are.
Would you like to be in a country that will not accept women of certain breast size because they see it as sexualized ? Small breast will be seen as pedo trap and big breast will be seen as girl trying to be a slut.
Not every female has B or C cup, some are A, D, etc. But you know it doesn't matter in the west everything need to be the same to stick to the norm because diversity will make it so controversial.
Re: Video: Watch Kids React To The Original Pokémon Anime Television Series
Oops website kind of gone broken and it did 4 time the message...
Re: Video: Watch Kids React To The Original Pokémon Anime Television Series
Next will be Digimon ?
Re: Video: Watch Kids React To The Original Pokémon Anime Television Series
Next will be Digimon ?
Re: Video: Watch Kids React To The Original Pokémon Anime Television Series
Next will be Digimon ?
Re: Video: Watch Kids React To The Original Pokémon Anime Television Series
Next will be Digimon ?
Re: CoroCoro is Teasing a Big Pokémon Announcement for Next Month
@MitchVogel He's prob talking about Zygarde new forms.
Re: Video: Learn a Little About Pokémon Snap and Five 'Impossible' Pocket Monsters
I don'T get which new idea Junichi Masuda want for Pokemon Snap, at least we got Fatal Frame to take pictures on Wii U.
Re: Shadow Mewtwo Gets a Flashy Reveal in Official Pokkén Tournament Wii U Trailer
That's kind of late to the news tho.
Re: Nintendo Is Making Female Characters Cover Up For The Western Version Of Xenoblade Chronicles X
Everything Treehouse touches is getting censored.
Re: Nintendo Is Making Female Characters Cover Up For The Western Version Of Xenoblade Chronicles X
Not surprising being it's Treehouse that worked on it aka same team that censored Fatal Frame.
Re: Animal Crossing: amiibo Festival Won't Have Online Play
@BJQ1972 Have you played 100% Orange Juice ? Board game that has online play.
Re: A Different Mother 2 Cartridge Has Recently Surfaced Online
@MitchVogel You have the menu that work like Earthbound and you can set an AI for your other characters. The combat show only the monsters facing you like Earthbound instead of side sprites showing the heroes at the same time.
DQ is less story heavy than Final Fantasy, it's more gameplay driven.
Re: Poll: The Tricky Issue of Retail Games as Download-Only Releases
@KillScottKill For me it backed up the whole corrupted game and the only option to backup the save was to pay for PS+.
Re: Poll: The Tricky Issue of Retail Games as Download-Only Releases
@Therad I got a game corrupted on the PSTV digitally, I could play it fine but some part were corrupted and just gave a black screen, I ended up needing to redownload the whole game and losing my save file because of that. ( Sony only let you keep your save file if you pay PS+, you can't backup on PC since it register the whole game )
I also got the same corruption with Bravely Default at least 3 times, the problem being the auto-save feature.
Re: Here's Where The Legend of Zelda: Tri Force Heroes Falls in the Timeline
Four Swords happened before OoT then after the Split continued on the Twilight Princess and Majora's Mask Path. This game could be the incarnation of Four Sword Heroes in the Defeated timeline. There's still no Four Sword Links in the Wind Waker timeline.
Re: Here's Where The Legend of Zelda: Tri Force Heroes Falls in the Timeline
The lack of purple Link mean probably that the Purple Link is Ravio.
Re: Poll: The Tricky Issue of Retail Games as Download-Only Releases
`The problem with digital games is they are more prone to corruption of data and they will need an even bigger space in the future. Remember when the games back then were not even 1 MB and today we got games that are between 15 to 30 GB in size.
Re: Yes, Fatal Frame's Lingerie Outfits Have Been Removed From The Western Version
@Fee Still they are able to show bikini in a Teen rated game, while here we got an M rated game that censor bikini.
Re: Yes, Fatal Frame's Lingerie Outfits Have Been Removed From The Western Version
INB4 we get an update or a DLC to bring back those outfits after a week and their sales increases.
Re: Yes, Fatal Frame's Lingerie Outfits Have Been Removed From The Western Version
Ayane is actually in this game too. I don't know if they changed anything about her.
Re: Yes, Fatal Frame's Lingerie Outfits Have Been Removed From The Western Version
Some people said that not only lingerie got removed from the game. What is supposed to be removed or edited: Film Grain, Boobs jiggle physics, part of the story removed completely or edited, dialogue removed/edited, flashback of a 30 years old doing a bikini shoot edited.
I wonder if Ayane will even be in the game now.
Re: Yes, Fatal Frame's Lingerie Outfits Have Been Removed From The Western Version
This seems that not only costumes got removed but part of the story got edited or removed completely with this censorship.
Re: Yes, Fatal Frame's Lingerie Outfits Have Been Removed From The Western Version
So they also removed part of the story and edited it with censorship ? It's even worst than just removing optional outfits.
Re: Yes, Fatal Frame's Lingerie Outfits Have Been Removed From The Western Version
If this was a T rated game with characters being 14 and 15 years old I would understand. But it's an M rated game with Mature grown up characters, this is why there's an uproar. It's not because people want the pervy outfits it's just the censorship was not needed for the audience this game is aimed at.
Re: Yes, Fatal Frame's Lingerie Outfits Have Been Removed From The Western Version
The point is not people would miss those costume but that they are censoring a game made for a 17+ audience, meanwhile they approve everything about Senran Kagura and Bayonetta both having the same Mature rating.
Re: Yes, Fatal Frame's Lingerie Outfits Have Been Removed From The Western Version
Nintendo outfits should of been extra content and not just a replacement of censorship.
Re: Yes, Fatal Frame's Lingerie Outfits Have Been Removed From The Western Version
The fact is it will hurt the sales of the game even more, it took 10 years to bring that series back in the west and we get this.
It's like they are trying really hard to make this game not successful in the west so they never localize another one again.
First the game barely got any marketing in the west since the Treehouse at E3 2015, then NA get digital only. Now they remove mature content in a 17+ Mature game, meanwhile games like Senra Kagura on 3DS is alright in their eyes. Then trying to bandaid the removal of those outfit they add Samus and Zelda outfits so we get the same amount of content. Just get the lingerie outfits as DLC and I'm sure it will sell, this seems the only option left to get that content now.
Re: Yes, Fatal Frame's Lingerie Outfits Have Been Removed From The Western Version
This mean the next Fire Emblem games will get censored not only in outfit but in personality and dialogue.
Re: Yes, Fatal Frame's Lingerie Outfits Have Been Removed From The Western Version
Meanwhile Senran Kagura is totally OK in Nintendo eyes. Talk about their hypocrisy.
Re: Yes, Fatal Frame's Lingerie Outfits Have Been Removed From The Western Version
It's just the west is getting a minor version of the original game with contents missing. What people hate is not really that they can't see their characters bare skin it's the principle of a mature game made for 17+ and not for kids getting censored, also how would a parent buy that game for a kid when the game is Digital only in NA ? It's physical in europe but even it's just bad parentship if they buy a mature game for kids and they are more of a minority.
The Samus and Zelda outfits are just a little bandaid option to say we will get the same amount of content as Japan but with no bare skin showed, this also break the immersion more, even Ayane fit more in the game than Samus and Zelda.
Re: Yes, Fatal Frame's Lingerie Outfits Have Been Removed From The Western Version
Also the characters are not 12 or 14 years old in that game.
Re: Yes, Fatal Frame's Lingerie Outfits Have Been Removed From The Western Version
The principle of censoring a mature game that is made for a mature audience is what is the problem. Replcing them by Zelda and Samus outfits that breaks more the immersion of the game is also another low blow. I'm sure this will affect the sales of the game even more and then no other Fatal Frame will come to the west because of lost of interest in the series. It was already bad that the game is digital only in NA. It's like they want to kill the series in the west so they need a reason for it to be less popular and not bring more of it.
Re: Review: Project Zero: Maiden of Black Water (Wii U)
The NA version better have the Japanese voices option too. I know some games like Rhythm Heaven only had Japanese option for Europe.
Re: Review: Project Zero: Maiden of Black Water (Wii U)
I already watched the whole game in Japanese and I liked it. I hope there's no censorship with the outfits. I want those lingerie outfits in the western release.
Re: Talking Point: The NX Hype Will Ramp Up as Nintendo Steps Into a Vital New Era
Anyway up to 25GB of space from disks + adding each DLCs and extra updates stack fast for digital only.
Re: Talking Point: The NX Hype Will Ramp Up as Nintendo Steps Into a Vital New Era
I would prefer having at least a 3DS cart slot. Going full digital would require a huge amount of space on the console, some games are 30GB+. The PSTV and Vita already got a problem with their expensive memory cards. At least the PSTV can read physical Vita carts and has access to PS1 and PSP digital games with PS4 streaming.
Re: Cosplay Dreams Come True With Zelda and Zero Suit Samus Outfits in Fatal Frame
INB4 they replace the lingerie underwear outfits from the JP version.
Re: Sources Suggest Nintendo NX Is A Fusion Of Home And Mobile Hardware Powered By "Industry-Leading" Tech
Hopefully this work like an hybrid of the PSTV by playing Wii U and 3DS games + NX games.
Re: Nintendo Life Weekly: Skull Kid Confirmed as Playable on Wii U Hyrule Warriors, Pokémon Lawsuit Flip-Flop and More
To get him on Wii U I guess you need to buy the 3DS version.
Re: Nintendo Life Weekly: The Smash Bros. Fighter Ballot Ends, a Naughty Splatoon Octoling and More
Cranky would be funny to see fighting with his cane and using it as a Pogo Stick on opponents.
Re: The Pokémon Company Withdraws Settlement in Lawsuit Over Copyright Infringement
The Pokemon Company is fine with fanpics and doujin being sold mostly if it's pokemon trainers showing up in them. But if Pokemons start to show up a lot they decide to strike.
Re: Climate "Not Healthy" For Dedicated Handheld Games Consoles, Says Sony's Shuhei Yoshida
I despise Mobile Gaming, for me it's just a huge pile of scam with infinite games that never end and ask you to pay to progress or just wait weeks to get where you can get in seconds by paying.