I don't think it is fair nor educative to use expensive, brand related stuff in schools as tools by teachers. Its ok for people to desire things like consoles or other expensive stuff obviously, but the role of a teacher is different, a teacher should teach you how to be independent and that you don't really need those things.
@Grumblevolcano I would have hoped that my Switch kept working fine that long (right now I don't care anymore) but even if it doesn't, when I couldn't play it anymore on Switch, if I had my save backup I could use an emulator (of course by that time there will be a full functioning Switch emulator) and continue playing my Switch original save file on the emulator.
I have my Wii DKCR save file on Dolphin for example. I completed it (200%) on Wii and loved it, but this game is so hard that I would never do it again. I could maybe get to 100% again, but 200%? No way. Having a backup of my save I can keep the 200% completion and enjoy it on a computer too. Something I couldn't have done if cloud backups were the only option
@PALversusNTSC cloud saving is such a big issue because I play TES games just to play them, play them forever I mean, not to complete them. So I don't want my backup to be stored in a cloud managed by other people that could chose for example to delete saves of older consoles when a new one is released to make room for newer games saves. I want to be sure my TES saves backups will be mine and at my complete disposal ten years in the future, 40 years in the future, 60 years in the future... I want to keep them forever because I want to keep playing those games forever, and I don't trust Nintendo cloud enough for this.
I love Elder Scroll, but at the same time Elder Scroll games are the ones in which I want the most the ability to keep a backup of my saves wherever I want, so unless Nintendo won't change how Switch works I'm not going to buy another Bethesda game on Switch.
I want to manually backup it and decide for myself where to keep it so cloud for me is not enough even if it was free. I just want something else for Elder Scroll games (and for my Elder Scroll character)
PS: this is something very sad for me. TES on a Nintendo console was one of my biggest dreams but since Switch suffers of such a stupid and frustrating limitation it turned out to be a nightmare instead.
I hope at least this time I will be able to enjoy a portable media center with at least good retrogaming and with PHYSICAL BUTTONS. Physical buttons of at least DECENT quality I hope. I have always hated Android mostly for the touch screens and lack of real buttons. First party games for sure will not be as good as Nintendo ones, but I really like The Elder Scrolls too and a few others non Nintendo games, and overall this could be much better than Switch for me unfortunately, because Switch WOULD be great, but Nintendo is ruining it and making it a lot less good than it could be. It is quite sad for me that a device made by Google could be better for me than a Nintendo console, but right now I think it will likely will be. I hope Nintendo will change their behaviour with Switch and make it the console I hoped it was going to be when I first saw it. But right now I have nothing for them except HATE.
"For us, it's really about being thoughtful around what's the best way to enable consumers to have access to this content" and to avoid it at all cost shoving down your throat all the worst and most stupid ways instead.
Virtual console was good enough.
The only way to improve Virtual console was to let people keep their purchases on past consoles on the newer consoles too. You don't want to do that? Ok, I can accept that. But now you are taking Virtual console away and doing something much worse instead. Well f*** you. I wanted to buy Captain Toad, Lumines, Manticore and Crash on Switch, I have bought Lumines on PS4, I will not buy Captain Toad and Manticore and if I will buy Crash I will buy it on PS4. You will not see any money from me until Smash Bros.
PS: those "benefits" Reggie is talking about are not benefits by any means. They are things that should be available for everybody (I'm not saying cloud must be free, I'm saying those who don't pay MUST be able to manually back up their saves on the SD card) but they decided to lock behind the paywall. Nintendo is ruining its own console to try to get a few more subscriptions like a beggar would do. They don't have any dignity
The only thing that Nintendo Switch online has done for me is to make me hate Nintendo, while I loved Nintendo for so many years. And I hate even more Nintendo because they force me to hate it while I would want to love it instead. But not at those conditions.
@Yosheel If they will stop offering online features they will sell again their Virtual console games instead of locking them behind the subscription and they will need to give the players the ability to backup their saved games manually using the SD card. I don't care about backups for every game, I just want to be able to backup The Elder Scroll saves so I don't care if they lock a few saves like Animal crossing. And I absolutely hate online gaming so for me is a good thing if they will completely stop online features. They will not be able to abuse of them like they are trying to do now that way.
I hope Nintendo will be humbled by all those issues they are having lately with the online gaming. I am rather pleased to see how they are being helplessly harassed by hackers since they are disrespecting us with their choices about the online service and the things locked behind the subscription. I hope they will not be as arrogant as they have been anymore
I don't think Nintendo can be praised for clear marketing on Switch. It is the opposite imo. With WiiU probably it was even worse but the real difference is that Switch as a console is great, it is absolutely a fantastic device (too bad Nintendo is preventing it to be as good as it could be with all the missing features and the online subscription) and the Wii U was a convoluted mess, a wreck that was nothing but painful to use, the most stupid concept possible for a console, and also with games that yes were ok, but not as good as the ones for the previous consoles.
I hope that things like this one will make the online subscription a failure. I really hope that Nintendo will not be able to solve those issues, so not just people like me bvut those who like to play online too will be mad and enraged against it when they will be forced to pay to have a bad service. I'm sorry it is unfair for people interested in multiplayer, but Nintendo is the one who started doing unfair things, and the more people mad at them about this service the better for me, I'm just being honest about how I feel, sorry guys...
@Jop there's nothing cheap in being forced to pay a subscription every single month, expecially for those people not interested in online services. I never complained about the price of Virtual console games and I've always been more than happy to pay for it but yeah, now I really feel that Nintendo is not respecting me anymore. If they don't want to sell me their games anymore, I won't feel guilty in owning those games that I already paid more than once on my computer instead of my Switch. It is them who chose to not sell them anymore, and if I cannot buy something I'm not going to give away my money just to be fooled with a service that I never wanted.
Congratulations to all you guys at Nintendo. I've loved Switch since the first time you showed it, I've always wanted to love it, I've always wanted it to be my favourite console ever, but you managed to make me HATE it instead. I want to love it, I want to love Ninbterndo, but right now I hate Nintendo with all my heart.
The first three Crash Bandicoot games are the only good games from Naughty dog imho. I really despise everything they made later. I think there are way too many games like those, games that want to look like movies and shove down your throat elements that shouldn't be so prominent in games... at least not as often as they are today. I'm talking for any system out there, not just for the Switch. People like Naughty dog are turning games into something that I don't like anymore.
Still not stable enough to let you copy your save data on the SD card or watching normal pictures in the album I guess or being able to run a web browser I guess.
"The story of how Sonic 2 was made - and how it became arguably the character's best outing" In my opinion it is one of the worst. It is absolutely the worst one amongst the classic ones, but unfortunately some of the more recent games are on par and even worse.
Banning the eShop in the console of a hacker is the most stupid thing possible. I mean I'm sure that somebody who hacked the console has no problem in finding another way to get games anyway. I have thought several times about modding my Switch to have a multimedia player and the possibility to backup my saved games but I would like to buy my games from the eShop anyway. Since Switch lacks many functions I think some people could want to hack their consoles for different reasons than piracy, but if Nintendo make it impossible for them to legally buy games then it is like Nintendo itself is encouraging piracy that way. It seems so incredibly stupid to me!!!!! Lol
Since imo often Yoshi's games have been disappointing after the masterpiece that was Yoshi's island SNes maybe Yuji Naka could have helped making better Yoshi's games. Or maybe he could have done a better job in making the typical Wii casual games more appealing for real gamers too (games like Wii music or Wii sports were not that interesting). I think he could have done something particularly good for Nintendo in one of those cases, maybe both.
@Dethmunk you do it on purpose to pretend you are not understanding? People want to manually copy their saves for free, not to use Nintendo servers for free. People who are complaining are the ones who don't want this online service, not people who want it but for free.
Nintendo can do whatever they want with their online service, and they can give it the price they want I don't care. They must give free alternatives for saves backups at the very least. I don't care if they charge 3.49£, 10£, 150000£, 1£, whatever I will not pay it anyway. They can put in it all ther discounts they want for the subscribers, I don't care. I'm willing to pay full price for everything I want that is fair to pay, so basically everything EXCEPT saves backups (local saves backups of course, I don't ask for free cloud space, Nintendo can keep its precious disk space I'm not gonna ask for it). The problem here is that Nintendo is taking away functions and contents that should be available for everyone. Having cloud saves in this service is not a bonus for the subscribers because there is not any alternative for other people. Subscribers will get just the most basic functionalities of their console, not anytrhing more, and non subscribers will get even less. Non subscribers should get the most basic option and subscribers should get something more but Nintendo this time forces everybody to have less than they should. This "service" is just insulting for us.
@MadCow74 it will also probably won't work for those games were having the possibility to manage backups could give the player a way to exploit the game mechanics, like on the first Wii you was able to copy saves of most games but not all of them. It was not a matter of the file size back then but today certain games with 5 gb save files would be a big problem too of course.
@Rekiotsu "I feel like they have been becoming more and more like EA recently"
Exactly.
I'll be honest, I don't think that Nintendo was 100% fair in the past, but it was still acceptable if you liked their products, and often I liked them a lot. I never complained because I was willing to accept some compromises, but this is becoming too much and all of a sudden.
The worst part is that Nintendo actually makes good games. EA can do what they want, their games are like garbage for me I don't lose absolutely nothing. I wouldn't buy them even if they stick to the fairest of rules as producer and publisher, it's just like they don't exist for me. But with Nintendo I'm going to miss a lot.
Probably internet and the new ways to publish games are something that give them more power in the way they can abuse of us as consumers. Maybe they would have behaved like this even before but fortunately it was not possible back then. At least we have had some great consoles that were not ruined by this kind of bs.
@ThatMusicFan "or at the very least implement a feature into the eco-system that makes having the service a must so that everyone will just buy into it anyway"
I'm sorry but this is just crazy. Making a problem mandatory does not solve it. Forcing people even more to pay something that not everybody needs don't make it less unfair. It would make it even more unfair actually. I would probably just sell my Switch and wish all the worst things possible to Nintendo if something like that happened. This would be even worse than what Nintendo is trying to do right now! D:
@BensonUii I will buy a lot less games on Switch than I planned at first for sure. I will buy exclusives that I like and some "must buy" games like Sonic and Golden axe that I always buy for every system I own, but I will buy everything else on PS4.
3rd parties and indies will have much more support on other systems from me at least until things will change on Switch.
I really wanted Switch to be my favourite console of all times and it could easily have been but I am starting to hate it instead, and I promise that Nintendo will get much less money than I expected to invest in it at first unless things will change.
Not to mention that while I understand that Nintendo has the right to get paid for the services it offers, they should give something for free if they decide to not give alternatives. So it would be ok for the cloud save to be locked behind the subscription if they gave usb backups support as well but if they don't allow any other alterntive than just their own cloud they should make it available for free. On Steam you can have cloud save backups for free. This is something I could accept as a compromise. But Nintendo is just trying to steal our money by locking those features behind the subscription instead.
@BensonUii so I should be happy to renounce the possibility to have my save backups for free because the other way people who play online (NOT me, I don't like multiplayer and I HATE online multiplayer) are afraid of player that exploit Splatoon equipment?
I have paid for my console and my games exactly as multiplayer gamers did, I want Nintendo to respect my right to keep my saves backup as much as you want them to keep cheaters away from your onlibe games.
@Godzil in some games it was possible, in others not. My Wii was not modded for its entire life cycle, then I modded it when I saw that I did not like the Wii U and wanted to try something new on Wii to have some more fun with it instead because of the disappoimtment Wii U was for me. With the mod you were able to copy all the save data, but most of my games allowed save backups even without the mod.
@BensonUii No, we didn't. We had something better in previous Nintendo consoles and in other consoles today. I remember doing backups of my saves on Wii and I still have them both on DVD archives and on my free google cloud. I'm doing the same with PS4. Always for free. I should pay to have something that anyway is less good (you can't manage and copy your saves for yourself and choose yourself where to keep them) on Switch.
"Would be nice not to have to pay for them all over again, wouldn't it?"
you will be paying! I'm so sick of reading this stupid "free" word when there is nothing free about it. I would be happy to buy retrogames as I did on Wii and 3DS and other consoles, but if we want to speak about playing those games FOR FREE, well, it's more than 20 years that you can collect and play Nintendo games REALLY FOR FREE, if you have a computer and an internet connection.
Not only you are not going to play those games for free on Switch, you will not even be free to buy them if you want. You have to continuously keep paying to play them. Paying only once their given price was not enough for Nintendo.
They are just disrespecting us as customers.
This year I root for Hungary. It's the only song I really liked. Usually there are at least 3 or 4 songs that I like but not this year. I was really happy last year when my country won because I liked the song but not this year, I really hope Italy won't win this time.
@dres freeand early access to those games?????? FREE and EARLY???????? LOL! You pay a subscription (you PAY a subscription) to be allowed to play a few NES games after something like two years in the console life span? What's "early" in this? Most famous NES games should have been available at launch day for purchase!!! This is a Nintendo console, I can play more Nintendo games almost anywhere else right now and it is more than a year that it launched!
@DBPirate because as soon as you stop paying you will completely lose everything. With Virtual console even if I liked only one single game I could pay it once and have it forever (at least as long as the console is working) on my console, don't you understand that making you pay a subscription instead of just buying once the single things you want is a swindle in the long term? How many of those games you like and would have bought if you had the chance to? Don't tell me you are going to like every single game that will be released because I will never believe that. They are simply taking away from you your freedom to choose and instead giving you a cheap "service" to have more control over you and slowly but continuously drain money from your wallet. If this thing will be successful people will end up spending much more than in the past and having less control over what they get, but most of you won't even notice that because most of you like to play multiplayer online and would pay a subscription anyway because of that. Nintendo is trying to fool everybody, but only the few who don't like online gaming are going to notice.
@DBPirate yeah, paying for those old games every single month instead only once in a generation, what a wonderful upgrade! Not to mention the fantastic bonus of the cloud saves! Except the fact that Nintendo don't allow us to manually copy save data for free but anyway being able to pay to let them copy saves in their own servers instead is so exciting!!! :/
I haven't bought the South Park game but everytime I think about Switch online service I can't help but feel like I have a "fractured but whole" somehow... Can we say this is another game that comes "for free" with the service? At least this one is really for everybody, not just for those who pay the subscription...
@kirbygirl because saves are a thing that we should have for free and we have it for free on other consoles and because I want to buy games that I like. I would not like to play streamed games not even if they were for free, I like to buy what I want, and considering that I of course don't like all the games available but only some of them, making me pay a subscriotion to have access to all of them in the long run becomes a much bigger cost than just buying the ones I am really interesyed in. I don't care if the games are 20, 50 or 500, I only care about the ones I actually like and for sure they are not that many. I would spend much less if I could just buy them one by one and nothing else. And they would actually be mine that way.
@kirbygirl you probably don't understand and don't want to consider what this means for people who are not interested in online multiplayer. You are already willing to pay all those services so I can see that you don't care but on Nintendo we are going to miss content that we are not missing on PS4
@kirbygirl there's nothing similar in those services. I have a PS4, Sony don't lock any kind of content behind the subscription (that I'm not paying because I don't want to play online). You just can't play online, which is the only thing that has actually something to do with the subscription itself. You can buy anything you want, every content is available for every owner of the console for purchase, and you can copy your saves backup to any usb device and put them wherever you want. Everything for FREE and completely under your own control. 20 $ still sound like a goid deal?
@kirbygirl they probably published a few coin op Nintendo games under the Arcade Archives brand just to be able to say that. If the online service will be succesful they will just stick to it because it is the more convenient for them and thd less convenient and more crappy for us. If the online servicd will be a flop (and I hope so of course) we maybe could get more Nintendo retrogames on the eShop and they will say "see? We told you, we never had mean intentions, everybody can buy anything he wants" but this is not what they want to happen. I hope consumers will force them to be a little more honest because they have no intentions at all to be fair towards us with this subscription thing
@AlternateButtons you are never going to download those games. You will be playing them from their servers. You will immediately lose access to the games as soon as they are removed. You had at least a little bit more control over Virtual console games.
If they don't give local, free saves backup alternatives and if their retrogames will only be available for the subscribers and not for sale too for other Switch owners this is exactly the same as EA lootboxes.
No it is even worse for me, since I don't give a *** about EA games they can ruin their games as much as they want for me, I would have zero interest in those games anyway. But Switch and Nintendo games are a completely different thing. I love Switch, I love many products that Nintendo made but I hate how Nintendo is going to behave with this online crap.
@Moroboshi876 on PS4, and on PC too of course, you can copy your save files anywhere to have backups. I can save my game on Switch but I always play with the constant fear that some problem could make me lose the data. With PS4 (I don'tlike to play on computers that's why I use the PS4 even if the port sucks) I make a copy of my files everytime I achieve something important for me (for example building a home or improving my character stats)
@Moroboshi876 I am playing Skyrim on PS4 instead than Switch even if it runs much worse on PS4 only because on PS4 I can keep my saves backups while on Switch I can't.
I wanted to have Skyrim on Switch and I am really happy to have it but at the same time is almost useless because I don't want to play it on a version where I cannot keep my backups. I don't even play the main quest, I just play it like a "life simulator with fantasy setting" so for me saves backups are very important. I will never get to the end of that game, I will play it forever (or at least until something better - Oblivion remake - will be available), I feel the need to have full control on my saves data backups
Anyway, they are trying to lock behind a paywall things that don't belong to this paywall at all. And doing so they are trying to force people that are not interested in online multiplayer to pay this subscription too. This is not honest at all. It is disrespectful towards us imho.
@Moroboshi876 I can have all the saves backups I want on PS4 without paying anything for them, except the USB device to copy them to. And I can keep those saves backups forever, Nintendo could always cancel old games data when they will move on to the next system. They give me no guarantee about that. But anyway if the only thing that I'm interested in is having my Skyrim character backups stored for the rest of my life why should I pay anything for it since there could be a way to have them really for free? Nintendo is tryng to force this service to people that dislike multiplayer but care about keeping a backup of their saves and this is stealing. They are asking to people like me to pay for something we just dislike (online multiplayer) to have something that we should have for free (saves backups). They are trying to turn their retrogames into a "game as service" format while previously they were simply available for purchase. This is disgusting.
I don't pay any subscription on PS4. I can have all the things I'm interested in except online multiplayer, and I'm absolutely NOT interested in online multiplayer. A game can be discounted for subscribers and not for me, but if I really want it I can still buy it. I cannot use their servers to store my backups but I can use anything else. This is why is perfectly fine what Sony does. They lock behind the paywall only things that actually have something to do with the subscription. I'm not interested, I don't pay it, but everything else is still available to me.
FREE access to retrogames??? FREE access???? You have to pay a subscription! What the **** is free if you have to pay a subscription??? I would have been more than happy to buy again retrogames I like and bought on Wii and 3DS, but I have no interest at all in a service that stream ggames as long as I pay a subscription. I want to buy the things I like, if I can't buy them then I don't accept anything else. Also the fact that the saves backup function is behind the paywall is unacceptable, they are trying to STEAL online multiplayer services money from the customers like myself that are not interested in online multiplayer. I love Switch and I love Nintendo games so I'm still happy that I own a Switch and I will continue to support the games that I like and the console but I will never pay this subscription and in this case Nintendo is behaving just like a thief, this is DISGUSTING. I really wish all the best to Switch as a console but I wish exactly the opposite to this disgusting subscription that they are trying to force even on those people who are legitimately not interested.
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Re: Primary School Teacher Uses Nintendo Labo As A Creative Classroom Tool
I don't think it is fair nor educative to use expensive, brand related stuff in schools as tools by teachers. Its ok for people to desire things like consoles or other expensive stuff obviously, but the role of a teacher is different, a teacher should teach you how to be independent and that you don't really need those things.
Re: Todd Howard Says Bethesda Will “Certainly Be Doing Things" With Switch In The Future
@Grumblevolcano I would have hoped that my Switch kept working fine that long (right now I don't care anymore) but even if it doesn't, when I couldn't play it anymore on Switch, if I had my save backup I could use an emulator (of course by that time there will be a full functioning Switch emulator) and continue playing my Switch original save file on the emulator.
I have my Wii DKCR save file on Dolphin for example. I completed it (200%) on Wii and loved it, but this game is so hard that I would never do it again. I could maybe get to 100% again, but 200%? No way. Having a backup of my save I can keep the 200% completion and enjoy it on a computer too. Something I couldn't have done if cloud backups were the only option
Re: Todd Howard Says Bethesda Will “Certainly Be Doing Things" With Switch In The Future
@PALversusNTSC cloud saving is such a big issue because I play TES games just to play them, play them forever I mean, not to complete them. So I don't want my backup to be stored in a cloud managed by other people that could chose for example to delete saves of older consoles when a new one is released to make room for newer games saves. I want to be sure my TES saves backups will be mine and at my complete disposal ten years in the future, 40 years in the future, 60 years in the future... I want to keep them forever because I want to keep playing those games forever, and I don't trust Nintendo cloud enough for this.
Re: Todd Howard Says Bethesda Will “Certainly Be Doing Things" With Switch In The Future
I love Elder Scroll, but at the same time Elder Scroll games are the ones in which I want the most the ability to keep a backup of my saves wherever I want, so unless Nintendo won't change how Switch works I'm not going to buy another Bethesda game on Switch.
I want to manually backup it and decide for myself where to keep it so cloud for me is not enough even if it was free. I just want something else for Elder Scroll games (and for my Elder Scroll character)
PS: this is something very sad for me. TES on a Nintendo console was one of my biggest dreams but since Switch suffers of such a stupid and frustrating limitation it turned out to be a nightmare instead.
Re: Rumour: Google Is Creating A Gaming Platform To Rival Switch, PS4 and Xbox
I hope at least this time I will be able to enjoy a portable media center with at least good retrogaming and with PHYSICAL BUTTONS. Physical buttons of at least DECENT quality I hope. I have always hated Android mostly for the touch screens and lack of real buttons. First party games for sure will not be as good as Nintendo ones, but I really like The Elder Scrolls too and a few others non Nintendo games, and overall this could be much better than Switch for me unfortunately, because Switch WOULD be great, but Nintendo is ruining it and making it a lot less good than it could be. It is quite sad for me that a device made by Google could be better for me than a Nintendo console, but right now I think it will likely will be. I hope Nintendo will change their behaviour with Switch and make it the console I hoped it was going to be when I first saw it. But right now I have nothing for them except HATE.
Re: Reggie Says Nintendo Switch Online Will Connect You To Legacy Content "In A Meaningful Way"
"For us, it's really about being thoughtful around what's the best way to enable consumers to have access to this content" and to avoid it at all cost shoving down your throat all the worst and most stupid ways instead.
Virtual console was good enough.
The only way to improve Virtual console was to let people keep their purchases on past consoles on the newer consoles too. You don't want to do that? Ok, I can accept that. But now you are taking Virtual console away and doing something much worse instead. Well f*** you. I wanted to buy Captain Toad, Lumines, Manticore and Crash on Switch, I have bought Lumines on PS4, I will not buy Captain Toad and Manticore and if I will buy Crash I will buy it on PS4. You will not see any money from me until Smash Bros.
PS: those "benefits" Reggie is talking about are not benefits by any means. They are things that should be available for everybody (I'm not saying cloud must be free, I'm saying those who don't pay MUST be able to manually back up their saves on the SD card) but they decided to lock behind the paywall. Nintendo is ruining its own console to try to get a few more subscriptions like a beggar would do. They don't have any dignity
Re: Reggie Says Nintendo Switch Online Will Connect You To Legacy Content "In A Meaningful Way"
The only thing that Nintendo Switch online has done for me is to make me hate Nintendo, while I loved Nintendo for so many years. And I hate even more Nintendo because they force me to hate it while I would want to love it instead. But not at those conditions.
Re: Switch Hackers Are Now Forcing Adult-Themed Imagery Into Super Mario Odyssey
@Yosheel If they will stop offering online features they will sell again their Virtual console games instead of locking them behind the subscription and they will need to give the players the ability to backup their saved games manually using the SD card. I don't care about backups for every game, I just want to be able to backup The Elder Scroll saves so I don't care if they lock a few saves like Animal crossing. And I absolutely hate online gaming so for me is a good thing if they will completely stop online features. They will not be able to abuse of them like they are trying to do now that way.
Re: Switch Hackers Are Now Forcing Adult-Themed Imagery Into Super Mario Odyssey
I hope Nintendo will be humbled by all those issues they are having lately with the online gaming. I am rather pleased to see how they are being helplessly harassed by hackers since they are disrespecting us with their choices about the online service and the things locked behind the subscription. I hope they will not be as arrogant as they have been anymore
Re: Exploring The Legalities Of Sony's Fortnite Restrictions On Nintendo Switch
Nintendo itself is doing so many unethical things with Switch...
Re: Nintendo Says Switch Success Is Due To Clear Marketing, As Opposed To Wii U's Failure
I don't think Nintendo can be praised for clear marketing on Switch. It is the opposite imo. With WiiU probably it was even worse but the real difference is that Switch as a console is great, it is absolutely a fantastic device (too bad Nintendo is preventing it to be as good as it could be with all the missing features and the online subscription) and the Wii U was a convoluted mess, a wreck that was nothing but painful to use, the most stupid concept possible for a console, and also with games that yes were ok, but not as good as the ones for the previous consoles.
Re: Splatoon 2 Hackers Are Forcing Unreleased Content Onto Other Players
I hope that things like this one will make the online subscription a failure. I really hope that Nintendo will not be able to solve those issues, so not just people like me bvut those who like to play online too will be mad and enraged against it when they will be forced to pay to have a bad service. I'm sorry it is unfair for people interested in multiplayer, but Nintendo is the one who started doing unfair things, and the more people mad at them about this service the better for me, I'm just being honest about how I feel, sorry guys...
Re: "The Virtual Console successor is Nintendo Switch Online" Says Reggie
@Jop there's nothing cheap in being forced to pay a subscription every single month, expecially for those people not interested in online services. I never complained about the price of Virtual console games and I've always been more than happy to pay for it but yeah, now I really feel that Nintendo is not respecting me anymore. If they don't want to sell me their games anymore, I won't feel guilty in owning those games that I already paid more than once on my computer instead of my Switch. It is them who chose to not sell them anymore, and if I cannot buy something I'm not going to give away my money just to be fooled with a service that I never wanted.
Re: "The Virtual Console successor is Nintendo Switch Online" Says Reggie
Congratulations to all you guys at Nintendo. I've loved Switch since the first time you showed it, I've always wanted to love it, I've always wanted it to be my favourite console ever, but you managed to make me HATE it instead. I want to love it, I want to love Ninbterndo, but right now I hate Nintendo with all my heart.
Re: Naughty Dog's Vice President Met Up With Shigeru Miyamoto At E3 This Year
The first three Crash Bandicoot games are the only good games from Naughty dog imho. I really despise everything they made later. I think there are way too many games like those, games that want to look like movies and shove down your throat elements that shouldn't be so prominent in games... at least not as often as they are today. I'm talking for any system out there, not just for the Switch. People like Naughty dog are turning games into something that I don't like anymore.
Re: Nintendo Switch Version: 5.1.0 Is Now Live
Still not stable enough to let you copy your save data on the SD card or watching normal pictures in the album I guess or being able to run a web browser I guess.
Re: Exclusive: Wulverblade Is Going On Sale To Celebrate Its Biggest Update Yet
I can't wait to try it I wasn't able to beat the last boss but now I should make it!
Re: Video: Relive The Amazing Story Behind One Of Sonic's Most Beloved Outings
"The story of how Sonic 2 was made - and how it became arguably the character's best outing"
In my opinion it is one of the worst. It is absolutely the worst one amongst the classic ones, but unfortunately some of the more recent games are on par and even worse.
Re: Nintendo Bans Online Services For Prominent Hacker's Switch Console
Banning the eShop in the console of a hacker is the most stupid thing possible. I mean I'm sure that somebody who hacked the console has no problem in finding another way to get games anyway.
I have thought several times about modding my Switch to have a multimedia player and the possibility to backup my saved games but I would like to buy my games from the eShop anyway.
Since Switch lacks many functions I think some people could want to hack their consoles for different reasons than piracy, but if Nintendo make it impossible for them to legally buy games then it is like Nintendo itself is encouraging piracy that way. It seems so incredibly stupid to me!!!!! Lol
Re: Video: Some Mario Games Just Can't Properly Be Played Anymore
online services come into it. How surprising. There are so many things to love about online services. Of course I'm being sarcastic.
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Re: Get In The Holiday Mood With Bandai Namco's Go Vacation For Switch
If Miis are supported I'll probably buy it, if not I probably won't.
Re: Yuji Naka Wanted To Join Nintendo After He Finished Working For Sega
Since imo often Yoshi's games have been disappointing after the masterpiece that was Yoshi's island SNes maybe Yuji Naka could have helped making better Yoshi's games.
Or maybe he could have done a better job in making the typical Wii casual games more appealing for real gamers too (games like Wii music or Wii sports were not that interesting).
I think he could have done something particularly good for Nintendo in one of those cases, maybe both.
Re: Soapbox: Let's Give Nintendo Switch Online A Chance Before We Throw It To The Wolves
@Dethmunk you do it on purpose to pretend you are not understanding? People want to manually copy their saves for free, not to use Nintendo servers for free. People who are complaining are the ones who don't want this online service, not people who want it but for free.
Re: Soapbox: Let's Give Nintendo Switch Online A Chance Before We Throw It To The Wolves
Nintendo can do whatever they want with their online service, and they can give it the price they want I don't care. They must give free alternatives for saves backups at the very least.
I don't care if they charge 3.49£, 10£, 150000£, 1£, whatever I will not pay it anyway. They can put in it all ther discounts they want for the subscribers, I don't care. I'm willing to pay full price for everything I want that is fair to pay, so basically everything EXCEPT saves backups (local saves backups of course, I don't ask for free cloud space, Nintendo can keep its precious disk space I'm not gonna ask for it).
The problem here is that Nintendo is taking away functions and contents that should be available for everyone. Having cloud saves in this service is not a bonus for the subscribers because there is not any alternative for other people. Subscribers will get just the most basic functionalities of their console, not anytrhing more, and non subscribers will get even less. Non subscribers should get the most basic option and subscribers should get something more but Nintendo this time forces everybody to have less than they should. This "service" is just insulting for us.
Re: Guide: Nintendo Switch Online FAQ - Everything We Know So Far
@MadCow74 it will also probably won't work for those games were having the possibility to manage backups could give the player a way to exploit the game mechanics, like on the first Wii you was able to copy saves of most games but not all of them.
It was not a matter of the file size back then but today certain games with 5 gb save files would be a big problem too of course.
Re: Guide: Nintendo Switch Online FAQ - Everything We Know So Far
@Rekiotsu "I feel like they have been becoming more and more like EA recently"
Exactly.
I'll be honest, I don't think that Nintendo was 100% fair in the past, but it was still acceptable if you liked their products, and often I liked them a lot. I never complained because I was willing to accept some compromises, but this is becoming too much and all of a sudden.
The worst part is that Nintendo actually makes good games. EA can do what they want, their games are like garbage for me I don't lose absolutely nothing. I wouldn't buy them even if they stick to the fairest of rules as producer and publisher, it's just like they don't exist for me. But with Nintendo I'm going to miss a lot.
Probably internet and the new ways to publish games are something that give them more power in the way they can abuse of us as consumers. Maybe they would have behaved like this even before but fortunately it was not possible back then. At least we have had some great consoles that were not ruined by this kind of bs.
Re: Guide: Nintendo Switch Online FAQ - Everything We Know So Far
@ThatMusicFan "or at the very least implement a feature into the eco-system that makes having the service a must so that everyone will just buy into it anyway"
I'm sorry but this is just crazy. Making a problem mandatory does not solve it. Forcing people even more to pay something that not everybody needs don't make it less unfair. It would make it even more unfair actually. I would probably just sell my Switch and wish all the worst things possible to Nintendo if something like that happened. This would be even worse than what Nintendo is trying to do right now! D:
Re: Guide: Nintendo Switch Online FAQ - Everything We Know So Far
@BensonUii I will buy a lot less games on Switch than I planned at first for sure. I will buy exclusives that I like and some "must buy" games like Sonic and Golden axe that I always buy for every system I own, but I will buy everything else on PS4.
3rd parties and indies will have much more support on other systems from me at least until things will change on Switch.
I really wanted Switch to be my favourite console of all times and it could easily have been but I am starting to hate it instead, and I promise that Nintendo will get much less money than I expected to invest in it at first unless things will change.
Not to mention that while I understand that Nintendo has the right to get paid for the services it offers, they should give something for free if they decide to not give alternatives. So it would be ok for the cloud save to be locked behind the subscription if they gave usb backups support as well but if they don't allow any other alterntive than just their own cloud they should make it available for free. On Steam you can have cloud save backups for free. This is something I could accept as a compromise. But Nintendo is just trying to steal our money by locking those features behind the subscription instead.
Re: Guide: Nintendo Switch Online FAQ - Everything We Know So Far
@BensonUii so I should be happy to renounce the possibility to have my save backups for free because the other way people who play online (NOT me, I don't like multiplayer and I HATE online multiplayer) are afraid of player that exploit Splatoon equipment?
I have paid for my console and my games exactly as multiplayer gamers did, I want Nintendo to respect my right to keep my saves backup as much as you want them to keep cheaters away from your onlibe games.
Re: Guide: Nintendo Switch Online FAQ - Everything We Know So Far
@Godzil in some games it was possible, in others not. My Wii was not modded for its entire life cycle, then I modded it when I saw that I did not like the Wii U and wanted to try something new on Wii to have some more fun with it instead because of the disappoimtment Wii U was for me. With the mod you were able to copy all the save data, but most of my games allowed save backups even without the mod.
Re: Guide: Nintendo Switch Online FAQ - Everything We Know So Far
@BensonUii No, we didn't. We had something better in previous Nintendo consoles and in other consoles today. I remember doing backups of my saves on Wii and I still have them both on DVD archives and on my free google cloud. I'm doing the same with PS4. Always for free. I should pay to have something that anyway is less good (you can't manage and copy your saves for yourself and choose yourself where to keep them) on Switch.
Re: Guide: Nintendo Switch Online FAQ - Everything We Know So Far
@BensonUii no it does not but it could be included in the rip-off... I mean... privilege...
Re: Guide: Nintendo Switch Online FAQ - Everything We Know So Far
@BensonUii saves backup has multiplayer online functionalities? Ratrogaming ever had any online functionality before?
Re: Guide: Nintendo Switch Online FAQ - Everything We Know So Far
"Would be nice not to have to pay for them all over again, wouldn't it?"
you will be paying! I'm so sick of reading this stupid "free" word when there is nothing free about it. I would be happy to buy retrogames as I did on Wii and 3DS and other consoles, but if we want to speak about playing those games FOR FREE, well, it's more than 20 years that you can collect and play Nintendo games REALLY FOR FREE, if you have a computer and an internet connection.
Not only you are not going to play those games for free on Switch, you will not even be free to buy them if you want. You have to continuously keep paying to play them. Paying only once their given price was not enough for Nintendo.
They are just disrespecting us as customers.
Re: Random: Pikachu Makes A Surprise Cameo For Israel At This Year’s Eurovision
@Alber-san Portugal? Omg I was sure Italy won last yer! The fact that I liked the song probably was misleading me
Re: Random: Pikachu Makes A Surprise Cameo For Israel At This Year’s Eurovision
This year I root for Hungary. It's the only song I really liked. Usually there are at least 3 or 4 songs that I like but not this year. I was really happy last year when my country won because I liked the song but not this year, I really hope Italy won't win this time.
Re: Reaction: What are Your Thoughts on Nintendo Switch Online?
@dres freeand early access to those games?????? FREE and EARLY???????? LOL! You pay a subscription (you PAY a subscription) to be allowed to play a few NES games after something like two years in the console life span? What's "early" in this? Most famous NES games should have been available at launch day for purchase!!! This is a Nintendo console, I can play more Nintendo games almost anywhere else right now and it is more than a year that it launched!
Re: Reaction: What are Your Thoughts on Nintendo Switch Online?
@DBPirate because as soon as you stop paying you will completely lose everything. With Virtual console even if I liked only one single game I could pay it once and have it forever (at least as long as the console is working) on my console, don't you understand that making you pay a subscription instead of just buying once the single things you want is a swindle in the long term? How many of those games you like and would have bought if you had the chance to? Don't tell me you are going to like every single game that will be released because I will never believe that. They are simply taking away from you your freedom to choose and instead giving you a cheap "service" to have more control over you and slowly but continuously drain money from your wallet. If this thing will be successful people will end up spending much more than in the past and having less control over what they get, but most of you won't even notice that because most of you like to play multiplayer online and would pay a subscription anyway because of that. Nintendo is trying to fool everybody, but only the few who don't like online gaming are going to notice.
Re: Reaction: What are Your Thoughts on Nintendo Switch Online?
@DBPirate yeah, paying for those old games every single month instead only once in a generation, what a wonderful upgrade! Not to mention the fantastic bonus of the cloud saves! Except the fact that Nintendo don't allow us to manually copy save data for free but anyway being able to pay to let them copy saves in their own servers instead is so exciting!!! :/
Re: Reaction: What are Your Thoughts on Nintendo Switch Online?
I haven't bought the South Park game but everytime I think about Switch online service I can't help but feel like I have a "fractured but whole" somehow...
Can we say this is another game that comes "for free" with the service? At least this one is really for everybody, not just for those who pay the subscription...
Re: Reaction: What are Your Thoughts on Nintendo Switch Online?
@kirbygirl because saves are a thing that we should have for free and we have it for free on other consoles and because I want to buy games that I like. I would not like to play streamed games not even if they were for free, I like to buy what I want, and considering that I of course don't like all the games available but only some of them, making me pay a subscriotion to have access to all of them in the long run becomes a much bigger cost than just buying the ones I am really interesyed in. I don't care if the games are 20, 50 or 500, I only care about the ones I actually like and for sure they are not that many. I would spend much less if I could just buy them one by one and nothing else. And they would actually be mine that way.
Re: Reaction: What are Your Thoughts on Nintendo Switch Online?
@kirbygirl you probably don't understand and don't want to consider what this means for people who are not interested in online multiplayer. You are already willing to pay all those services so I can see that you don't care but on Nintendo we are going to miss content that we are not missing on PS4
Re: Reaction: What are Your Thoughts on Nintendo Switch Online?
@kirbygirl there's nothing similar in those services. I have a PS4, Sony don't lock any kind of content behind the subscription (that I'm not paying because I don't want to play online). You just can't play online, which is the only thing that has actually something to do with the subscription itself. You can buy anything you want, every content is available for every owner of the console for purchase, and you can copy your saves backup to any usb device and put them wherever you want. Everything for FREE and completely under your own control. 20 $ still sound like a goid deal?
Re: Reaction: What are Your Thoughts on Nintendo Switch Online?
@kirbygirl they probably published a few coin op Nintendo games under the Arcade Archives brand just to be able to say that. If the online service will be succesful they will just stick to it because it is the more convenient for them and thd less convenient and more crappy for us. If the online servicd will be a flop (and I hope so of course) we maybe could get more Nintendo retrogames on the eShop and they will say "see? We told you, we never had mean intentions, everybody can buy anything he wants" but this is not what they want to happen. I hope consumers will force them to be a little more honest because they have no intentions at all to be fair towards us with this subscription thing
Re: Reaction: What are Your Thoughts on Nintendo Switch Online?
@AlternateButtons you are never going to download those games. You will be playing them from their servers. You will immediately lose access to the games as soon as they are removed. You had at least a little bit more control over Virtual console games.
Re: Reaction: What are Your Thoughts on Nintendo Switch Online?
If they don't give local, free saves backup alternatives and if their retrogames will only be available for the subscribers and not for sale too for other Switch owners this is exactly the same as EA lootboxes.
No it is even worse for me, since I don't give a *** about EA games they can ruin their games as much as they want for me, I would have zero interest in those games anyway. But Switch and Nintendo games are a completely different thing. I love Switch, I love many products that Nintendo made but I hate how Nintendo is going to behave with this online crap.
Re: Nintendo Switch Online Finally Revealed: Cloud Saves, NES Games And Pricing Confirmed
@Moroboshi876 on PS4, and on PC too of course, you can copy your save files anywhere to have backups. I can save my game on Switch but I always play with the constant fear that some problem could make me lose the data. With PS4 (I don'tlike to play on computers that's why I use the PS4 even if the port sucks) I make a copy of my files everytime I achieve something important for me (for example building a home or improving my character stats)
Re: Nintendo Reveals Details Of Nintendo Switch Online
@Moroboshi876 I am playing Skyrim on PS4 instead than Switch even if it runs much worse on PS4 only because on PS4 I can keep my saves backups while on Switch I can't.
I wanted to have Skyrim on Switch and I am really happy to have it but at the same time is almost useless because I don't want to play it on a version where I cannot keep my backups. I don't even play the main quest, I just play it like a "life simulator with fantasy setting" so for me saves backups are very important. I will never get to the end of that game, I will play it forever (or at least until something better - Oblivion remake - will be available), I feel the need to have full control on my saves data backups
Anyway, they are trying to lock behind a paywall things that don't belong to this paywall at all. And doing so they are trying to force people that are not interested in online multiplayer to pay this subscription too. This is not honest at all. It is disrespectful towards us imho.
Re: Nintendo Reveals Details Of Nintendo Switch Online
@Moroboshi876 I can have all the saves backups I want on PS4 without paying anything for them, except the USB device to copy them to. And I can keep those saves backups forever, Nintendo could always cancel old games data when they will move on to the next system. They give me no guarantee about that. But anyway if the only thing that I'm interested in is having my Skyrim character backups stored for the rest of my life why should I pay anything for it since there could be a way to have them really for free? Nintendo is tryng to force this service to people that dislike multiplayer but care about keeping a backup of their saves and this is stealing. They are asking to people like me to pay for something we just dislike (online multiplayer) to have something that we should have for free (saves backups). They are trying to turn their retrogames into a "game as service" format while previously they were simply available for purchase. This is disgusting.
I don't pay any subscription on PS4. I can have all the things I'm interested in except online multiplayer, and I'm absolutely NOT interested in online multiplayer. A game can be discounted for subscribers and not for me, but if I really want it I can still buy it. I cannot use their servers to store my backups but I can use anything else. This is why is perfectly fine what Sony does. They lock behind the paywall only things that actually have something to do with the subscription. I'm not interested, I don't pay it, but everything else is still available to me.
Re: Nintendo Reveals Details Of Nintendo Switch Online
FREE access to retrogames??? FREE access???? You have to pay a subscription! What the **** is free if you have to pay a subscription??? I would have been more than happy to buy again retrogames I like and bought on Wii and 3DS, but I have no interest at all in a service that stream ggames as long as I pay a subscription. I want to buy the things I like, if I can't buy them then I don't accept anything else. Also the fact that the saves backup function is behind the paywall is unacceptable, they are trying to STEAL online multiplayer services money from the customers like myself that are not interested in online multiplayer.
I love Switch and I love Nintendo games so I'm still happy that I own a Switch and I will continue to support the games that I like and the console but I will never pay this subscription and in this case Nintendo is behaving just like a thief, this is DISGUSTING.
I really wish all the best to Switch as a console but I wish exactly the opposite to this disgusting subscription that they are trying to force even on those people who are legitimately not interested.