@3: A little over dramatic aren't we? It'd be sad if Nintendo went down, but give up gaming?
Maybe you should take a leaf out of the SEGA fan's books, yeah...they'd like another SEGA console, but they still play their games on other hardware...even their old rivals...and they even try non-SEGA games and have somewhat got into Nintendo games they once envied.
Anyway, Nintendo going third party would be indeed weird, but you'd get used to the idea...it's like a football team, who'd of thought Leeds 20 years ago would no longer be in the top league? It happens and they'll be fine whichever direction they go. Nintendo won't go bankrupt overnight and would be a very big third party developer if they did go that route...I am sure they'd hold their own whomever they sided with...or even go multiplat.
But again, this is a what if scenario...it won't happen anytime soon and if it did, no-one should be over-reacting if it did happen, as they'll still carry on doing what they do best, make quality games.
Why put up an article about Naughty Dog giving an opinion on the competition, only for members here to insult Sony.
I expect this in a fanboy thread coming from Sony fans but not at all from Nintendo fans.
I see the guys point...but he is after-all, tied to say this as he is getting paid by his employer...if Nintendo said the Vita has full of holes you'd still see most members being biased...
Anyway, Naughty Dog have a good reputation and I don't see them being insulting at all.
Unfortunately, it's about Profit these days rather then risk.
Nintendo just don't have that risk factor anymore...
I've been waiting for Valkyria 3 to come westward from SEGA and even they are reluctant and that franchise has a cult following!
As for the Nintendo are greedy part, I thought that was always known? They always maximise profit at the cost of lowering costs elsewhere (Wii is a good example here as well as N64 cartridges so third parties would have to pay more for them...hence why Square bailed out).
I agree with #14 and if I were American, I would be disappointed but not as fussed since I doubt Europe will buy these games in droves.
@18, Japan's population is a mere third of America's plus the fact that the Japanese buy MORE games means that you just exaggerated about how America will buy these niche games without thinking it through first.
As for my opinion about the Operation, it's good to see it happening but you have to realise that no-one in Europe would do this since we have more important problems coming our way...not getting three games won't kill anybody and importing them if you really want them is a solution which we Europeans have done since the 16-Bit era.
Why does this remind me of the Saturn Days when SEGA of Japan trolled America with their better exclusive games? (moreso EU)
Anyway, I doubt this game will be great...probably good.., and IF it gets a sequel, maybe NA gamers will get 1&2 if momentum carries on with the Wii U?
I understand not getting a Wii game that is already in Europe, but Americans forget how many games never made it here too and more recently...the likes of Arc Rise Fantasia never coming here either.
And of course Australia are getting it! They are from the PAL region...and to whomever said their Nintendo Offices are better...seriously? One game you may not get?
Please let Game Gear games come on the Wii's VC too...and make the whole VC collection be available on the 3DS, I am now wondering if that is why the launch is delayed? So you can purchase Wii VC games on the 3DS.
I agree with Grens. The last boss is stupidly long although I was lucky enough to know what you need to do first to whittle Lavos' final form down first time....
Same problem with Final Fantasy IV too...except it's stupidly easy if you leveled yourself pretty high but that damn attack that disables magic healing is really annoying.
Goes to show you that there are still very talented British Programmers that have been accepted in the biggest Japanese Studios when all we hear about recently is job cuts in the UK. A nice change anyway.
@7: Because it kind of kills the purpose of it being a Mascot Racer...have you played Sonic and SEGA All Stars Racing without items online? No fun whatsoever...it feels like playing Gran Turismo.
I'd wait and see how the 3DS does first before judging the next console release...then we can ask whether console gaming is worth it if the handheld market is becoming huge in Japan (and is respected in the west too).
As always, you have to look at the software before even buying the console...you don't want a limited library half way through the life like they did in the N64 era.
If they want to profit day 1, it'll be less then that...their audience don't exactly want to shell out that much to play the next console if they are happy with their Wiis.
If GAME and HMV are doing it, prepare for it to go lower then those guys...since GAME normally don't ever lower the price that much unless they get at least a healthy amount of profit from it!
Surprised Nintendo have made such a cute game with death references in it. Don't they usually hate putting anything that would be considered not family friendly into their games?
Not that I care or anything but thinking of Kirby dying is not what I consider a typical Kirby game...especially when Kirby's enemies are not really considered enemies as he/she has no grudge against them. :
@Link-Hero: Although I agree with you about why would you want to view it from a past perspective...some people actually perfer that and it doesn't effect us at all.
I wouldn't say the graphics are worse...I think it makes the screen stable and less likely have screen tearing (which I actually hate if it's bad...FInal fantasy XIII on the PS3 does this if you aren't up to specs...which is kind of sad...but I am probably wrong on that dept).
Colouring in the lines in between is certainly a good diea of recent TVs but if you play on a TV close up this wouldn't be for you.
By the way, I'm someone who's played the Mega Drive as my first console so I can see both people's POV's...
Capcom have really dropped the ball this generation.
Lost Planet 2 was pretty poor and the directions to RE5 and DMC have really hurt them.
MvC3 has DLC already on the disc and now to top it all off, they make this game unavailable in America?!? You have to wonder what happened in HQ for them to completely do SEGA decisions...speaking of which...it feels like the two have swapped roles...
Anyway, I thought AAI wasn't a bad game...but it was certainly not to my taste when I sold the game (due to the difficulty rather then the enjoyment...which is a shame but I bought it new if that helps).
Unfortunately, not many western Developers think Japanese ideas....but if we did, it wouldn't be as exciting.
Although I like the idea of Nintendo actually buying an External Studio like everybody else does, their ideas and the majority of western developers ideas are totally different...
Maybe Nintendo should buy Valve as they think a like (although I am not a fan of Valve).
@WiiLovePiece: Those old franchises you mention were new themselves once. People like new experiences with new ideas and not tacked onto an established franchise. How would Pikmin, Custom Robo and Chibi Robo exist without ideas for newer franchises?
Too right. I liked Bayonetta but it was not my type of game and I need to get Vanquished.
I felt Resonance of Fate had a better battle mechanic then Final Fantasy which was a nice change but the story was even more confusing then FF.
I think original ideas would need sequels to improve on that formula...as some people grow accustomed to it...like sequels to novels when they have something going on that's a great idea. I am expecting Bayonetta to get a sequel soon (from what they hinted at).
Raising it to 100MB would be enough methinks...but how can 40MB be restrictive if you are a developer? I mean...we see people these days make hardware on the 16-bit machines (which provided fewer then 3MB!).
Whilst I agree the limit needs to be lifted a little, these devs should be making good games with that limit like the old days.
Technically Nintendo still have to pay to get the parts for it and send them in various shops, so they aren't making 100% of that sale...but it'll still be high.
I don't really care what either side thinks....but I am more concerned (well...not really but I guess you should all be as well), is that the companies we know now like Nintendo, Capcom, Konami and SEGA are going to eventually have to shift their employment to the younger, more fresher faces, I mean Miyamoto maybe very successful, but he's almost 60 now and within a few years he may want to retire and Mario will probably never be the same again...same with all of them...Square Enix may get a lot of flak at the moment, but at least they are nurturing the younger employees so they, too..will be making fresher games of Final Fantasy...those of you who hate Angry Birds shouldn't be hating on the people....they...in turn may turn out to be a company you will look up to once the Dinosaurs in these other companies retire.
He's a bit OTT with the demos thing, if your game is good, people will buy it through word of mouth (like a few WiiWare titles) but it doesn't matter if he won't add his game to WiiWare...there's always other places to go...like the iPhone.
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Re: Talking Point: What If Nintendo Became a Third Party?
@3: A little over dramatic aren't we? It'd be sad if Nintendo went down, but give up gaming?
Maybe you should take a leaf out of the SEGA fan's books, yeah...they'd like another SEGA console, but they still play their games on other hardware...even their old rivals...and they even try non-SEGA games and have somewhat got into Nintendo games they once envied.
Anyway, Nintendo going third party would be indeed weird, but you'd get used to the idea...it's like a football team, who'd of thought Leeds 20 years ago would no longer be in the top league? It happens and they'll be fine whichever direction they go. Nintendo won't go bankrupt overnight and would be a very big third party developer if they did go that route...I am sure they'd hold their own whomever they sided with...or even go multiplat.
But again, this is a what if scenario...it won't happen anytime soon and if it did, no-one should be over-reacting if it did happen, as they'll still carry on doing what they do best, make quality games.
Re: Uncharted Studio: "Wii U is Full of Holes, Nothing Sony Can't Do"
Why put up an article about Naughty Dog giving an opinion on the competition, only for members here to insult Sony.
I expect this in a fanboy thread coming from Sony fans but not at all from Nintendo fans.
I see the guys point...but he is after-all, tied to say this as he is getting paid by his employer...if Nintendo said the Vita has full of holes you'd still see most members being biased...
Anyway, Naughty Dog have a good reputation and I don't see them being insulting at all.
Re: Naka and Iizuka Drop Hints at Third NiGHTS Game
No Alex Kidd or Streets of Rage Anniversary game?
Would be nice to play NiGHTs on XBLA or something.
Sonic Team are good at Non-Sonic games at least.
Re: Xenoblade Chronicles is Coming Early, UK & Europe
If I had a Pound for every "F you NOA"....
What is it with NOE trolling NOA lately? Especially when NOA maybe localising the game for Europeans!?!
Re: Talking Point: The Growing Storm of Operation Rainfall
Unfortunately, it's about Profit these days rather then risk.
Nintendo just don't have that risk factor anymore...
I've been waiting for Valkyria 3 to come westward from SEGA and even they are reluctant and that franchise has a cult following!
As for the Nintendo are greedy part, I thought that was always known? They always maximise profit at the cost of lowering costs elsewhere (Wii is a good example here as well as N64 cartridges so third parties would have to pay more for them...hence why Square bailed out).
Re: Operation Rainfall Responds to Nintendo's "Never Say Never"
I agree with #14 and if I were American, I would be disappointed but not as fussed since I doubt Europe will buy these games in droves.
@18, Japan's population is a mere third of America's plus the fact that the Japanese buy MORE games means that you just exaggerated about how America will buy these niche games without thinking it through first.
As for my opinion about the Operation, it's good to see it happening but you have to realise that no-one in Europe would do this since we have more important problems coming our way...not getting three games won't kill anybody and importing them if you really want them is a solution which we Europeans have done since the 16-Bit era.
Re: Xenoblade Chronicles Bundle Pack is Beautiful
Why does this remind me of the Saturn Days when SEGA of Japan trolled America with their better exclusive games? (moreso EU)
Anyway, I doubt this game will be great...probably good.., and IF it gets a sequel, maybe NA gamers will get 1&2 if momentum carries on with the Wii U?
I understand not getting a Wii game that is already in Europe, but Americans forget how many games never made it here too and more recently...the likes of Arc Rise Fantasia never coming here either.
And of course Australia are getting it! They are from the PAL region...and to whomever said their Nintendo Offices are better...seriously? One game you may not get?
Re: Sony President Thinks 3DS is Just an Updated DS
Why should anyone even care?
I can understand the backing of Nintendo Products but no need to stoop to Sony's level of name calling.
I want to see the games more before either one of them can insult the other.
Re: Zelda's Timeline is Simple In the Hands of Dr Emmett Brown
He should have used the Part 3 quote "To send you back to the future!", "You mean the Past?", "Exactly!"
By the way, it's a coincidence British TV were showing Part 3 only a few days ago (which I watched being a fan of the series).
Re: Sonic Generations 3DS Mixes 16-bit and Rush Gameplay
I was hoping for the Master System and Game Boy Advance stages/style to go in these games too. There's still hope I guess.
Re: As Predicted, Wii Drops to £99 in UK Today
@3: I thought the Gamecube was pretty popular here if only for Smash Bros.
And I never knew you were a SEGA fan (judging by the consoles owned).
On-Topic: It took too long...I was hoping my family would use my Wii Fit much sooner.
Re: Wii Shop Channel Now Accepting eShop Cards
Please let Game Gear games come on the Wii's VC too...and make the whole VC collection be available on the 3DS, I am now wondering if that is why the launch is delayed? So you can purchase Wii VC games on the 3DS.
Re: Review: Chrono Trigger (Virtual Console / Super Nintendo)
I agree with Grens. The last boss is stupidly long although I was lucky enough to know what you need to do first to whittle Lavos' final form down first time....
Same problem with Final Fantasy IV too...except it's stupidly easy if you leveled yourself pretty high but that damn attack that disables magic healing is really annoying.
Other then that it is a great game.
Re: Super Monkey Ball 3D
If it means Ristar, Alex Kidd, Fantasy Zone, Streets of Rage and a new Non-Sonic Sonic Team game then I am slightly excited.
Re: SEGA Announces More Virtual Console Titles for Wii
Good news to hear an announcement...but now I just want it released next week.
Re: Feature: Lads of the Rising Sun
Goes to show you that there are still very talented British Programmers that have been accepted in the biggest Japanese Studios when all we hear about recently is job cuts in the UK. A nice change anyway.
Re: New Elements Planned for Mario Kart on the 3DS
@7: Because it kind of kills the purpose of it being a Mascot Racer...have you played Sonic and SEGA All Stars Racing without items online? No fun whatsoever...it feels like playing Gran Turismo.
Re: Beyond the Labyrinth Headed to 3DS in Japan
Resonance of Fate was a great JRPG so I'm interested already.
Re: Nintendo Download: 29th April 2011 (Europe)
#7: Normally comes with the business...when products die down they blatently start ignoring them and focus on their next product.
Re: Sega Preparing a New Shining Game to "Sum Up the Series"
So from Force to Feather? I kind of read that SEGA was brining back one old IP ages ago so I guess this must be it?
Interested although I am more of a Tactics fan. Would be funnier if we had a Golden Sun/Shining Force crossover.
Re: Nintendo Expected 3DS Sales to be Higher Than They Are
I agree with #5 but I also agree with #1.
I can see a happy middle here....it'll sell well...but not clearly as well as the DS has...
Re: Talking Point: Can Nintendo's Next Console Top Wii's Success?
I'd wait and see how the 3DS does first before judging the next console release...then we can ask whether console gaming is worth it if the handheld market is becoming huge in Japan (and is respected in the west too).
As always, you have to look at the software before even buying the console...you don't want a limited library half way through the life like they did in the N64 era.
Re: Rumour: Wii 2 to Cost $350, Support 3DTVs, Out in October
I doubt it'll be that expensive...
If they want to profit day 1, it'll be less then that...their audience don't exactly want to shell out that much to play the next console if they are happy with their Wiis.
Re: Rumour: Could This Be the Next Nintendo Console?
Looks like bad photoshopping to me.
Re: 3DS Down to £179.99 in UK as Price War Rages On
If GAME and HMV are doing it, prepare for it to go lower then those guys...since GAME normally don't ever lower the price that much unless they get at least a healthy amount of profit from it!
Re: Talking Point: What You Want in a New Nintendo Home Console
#7: Win.
Re: New Kirby Game Details Gathered, Now Absorb Them
Surprised Nintendo have made such a cute game with death references in it. Don't they usually hate putting anything that would be considered not family friendly into their games?
Not that I care or anything but thinking of Kirby dying is not what I consider a typical Kirby game...especially when Kirby's enemies are not really considered enemies as he/she has no grudge against them. :
Re: Feature: The SLG3000 and the Glorious Return of Scanlines
@Link-Hero: Although I agree with you about why would you want to view it from a past perspective...some people actually perfer that and it doesn't effect us at all.
I wouldn't say the graphics are worse...I think it makes the screen stable and less likely have screen tearing (which I actually hate if it's bad...FInal fantasy XIII on the PS3 does this if you aren't up to specs...which is kind of sad...but I am probably wrong on that dept).
Colouring in the lines in between is certainly a good diea of recent TVs but if you play on a TV close up this wouldn't be for you.
By the way, I'm someone who's played the Mega Drive as my first console so I can see both people's POV's...
Re: Nintendo Download: 15th April 2011 (Europe)
Awwww.I thought it was Monster Hunter (the picture).
Ah well...may as well try to beat Wonder Boy instead.
Re: Competition Winners: 3DS & 4 Ubisoft Games (UK)
Congratulations (Melee Style).
Re: European Virtual Console Gets Chrono Trigger in Quarter 2
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Re: Capcom Objects to Ace Attorney Investigations 2 Translation Costs
Capcom have really dropped the ball this generation.
Lost Planet 2 was pretty poor and the directions to RE5 and DMC have really hurt them.
MvC3 has DLC already on the disc and now to top it all off, they make this game unavailable in America?!? You have to wonder what happened in HQ for them to completely do SEGA decisions...speaking of which...it feels like the two have swapped roles...
Anyway, I thought AAI wasn't a bad game...but it was certainly not to my taste when I sold the game (due to the difficulty rather then the enjoyment...which is a shame but I bought it new if that helps).
Re: There's a Touch of Virtual On to this New DSiWare Game
I only recently purchased Virtual On and although it has potential, it seems to be far too limiting and confusing for most people.
Let's hope this changes people's minds about the genre.
Re: Nintendo Wants More Developers Like Retro Studios, Please
Unfortunately, not many western Developers think Japanese ideas....but if we did, it wouldn't be as exciting.
Although I like the idea of Nintendo actually buying an External Studio like everybody else does, their ideas and the majority of western developers ideas are totally different...
Maybe Nintendo should buy Valve as they think a like (although I am not a fan of Valve).
Re: Nintendo Said Unto the Patent Office: Let There Be Wii Light
This would go well with Sonic Colours....
Re: Win 1 of 3 Nintendo 3DS' & 4 Games with Ubisoft (UK)
I assume that the contest is closed and the winner will be either tomorrow or the day after.
Re: Rumour: We May See Big Capcom Announcements Next Week
Marvel vs Capcom 3DS?
Re: Your First Look at Pandora's Tower is Below These Words
ICO Gamplay, Final Fantasy PS2 like CGI, Demon Blade's side view? This looks promising so far.
Re: Nintendo Buys Up TheLastStory.com, Points to Nintendo.com
Watch this become US exclusive whilst Xenoblade becomes EU exclusive...
I'm guessing it now folks.
Re: Sega Teases Sonic Anniversary Announcement for 7th April
Edit: Let's hope it's it's going to be spectacular!
Re: PlatinumGames President Saddened by Decline of New Ideas
@WiiLovePiece: Those old franchises you mention were new themselves once. People like new experiences with new ideas and not tacked onto an established franchise. How would Pikmin, Custom Robo and Chibi Robo exist without ideas for newer franchises?
Re: PlatinumGames President Saddened by Decline of New Ideas
Too right. I liked Bayonetta but it was not my type of game and I need to get Vanquished.
I felt Resonance of Fate had a better battle mechanic then Final Fantasy which was a nice change but the story was even more confusing then FF.
I think original ideas would need sequels to improve on that formula...as some people grow accustomed to it...like sequels to novels when they have something going on that's a great idea. I am expecting Bayonetta to get a sequel soon (from what they hinted at).
Re: 3DSWare File Size May Be Bigger Than WiiWare
Raising it to 100MB would be enough methinks...but how can 40MB be restrictive if you are a developer? I mean...we see people these days make hardware on the 16-bit machines (which provided fewer then 3MB!).
Whilst I agree the limit needs to be lifted a little, these devs should be making good games with that limit like the old days.
Re: 3DS Vision Lens to Change the Way You View 3D
Even if it were true, I hate contact lenses and would only make me avoid a 3DS if it were the case.
Still...nice idea for a joke.
Re: Monster World IV Coming to Virtual Console in Europe
Happy NintendoLife Anniversary!
I thought this was a joke, but it's alright past noon so...I am glad it isn't.
Re: Japan's Minna No Theater Channel Closes Its Curtains
I wish we had something like that (BBC iPlayer isn't enough).
Re: DS Has Outsold Xbox 360, PS3 and PSP Combined in Europe
Technically Nintendo still have to pay to get the parts for it and send them in various shops, so they aren't making 100% of that sale...but it'll still be high.
Re: Xenoblade Chronicles Heading to Europe This Year
Is it me or is Sephiroph in one of the screens. 0_o
Good news for Europeans...you better buy it now that you whined so much.
Re: Angry Birds Dev Calls Nintendo Games "$49 Pieces of Plastic"
I don't really care what either side thinks....but I am more concerned (well...not really but I guess you should all be as well), is that the companies we know now like Nintendo, Capcom, Konami and SEGA are going to eventually have to shift their employment to the younger, more fresher faces, I mean Miyamoto maybe very successful, but he's almost 60 now and within a few years he may want to retire and Mario will probably never be the same again...same with all of them...Square Enix may get a lot of flak at the moment, but at least they are nurturing the younger employees so they, too..will be making fresher games of Final Fantasy...those of you who hate Angry Birds shouldn't be hating on the people....they...in turn may turn out to be a company you will look up to once the Dinosaurs in these other companies retire.
Re: WiiWare, Fez Developer Does Not Like You At All
He's a bit OTT with the demos thing, if your game is good, people will buy it through word of mouth (like a few WiiWare titles) but it doesn't matter if he won't add his game to WiiWare...there's always other places to go...like the iPhone.