@SSGodLink it's not really cost effective, you can easily find a good enough emulator and rom online to play this, you can even use the new N64 controller for it too. Not exactly rocket science.
Maybe this will be a new warehouse/distribution centre, Nintendo like other big companies might be looking to implement their own order fulfilment services and logistics.
Relying soley on other suppliers for this isn't really a reliable thing anymore, with the pandemic having slowed global trade down and continuing to do so, with scalpers running rampant.
This wouldn't be a bad idea but we'll have to see what they do.
Okay yeah Metroid Dread is a decent enough game but winning awards? Lol this is a niche game that nobody outside of the hardcore Nintendo fanbase would care about. Nobody is about to go purchase a Switch for a game you can finish in a single weekend.
The Game Awards is never really a great time for Nintendo unless they released a Zelda or Mario game that year.
@River3636 well i mean to be fair there is around 20 games across the entire service that i like and around 5-10 more coming that i want too, so yeah for me, the service is outstanding value for money.
I guess you can't please everyone but honestly, the service is great value. But i get what you mean, its all subjective.
@SilentHunter382 but you don't have to compare it to anything, there is no reason too, so what it almost costs the same price?
So what the value isn't as good as PS+ or Xbox Live?
Is it still good value for money? Yes... so why bother to compare it under those weak reasons?
Be real with yourself right now, pretend that the other services didn't exist at all, pretend that Nintendo's services was the only service, would you honestly, with a straight face, be able to sit there and tell me over $270 value in video games for $50 a year is a bad offer?
@Gwynbleidd you sound quite jaded by all this, i do kind of get why though, you know the annoying thing about the Virtual Console?
I'm not entirely sure how many games you've purchased on it but i purchased around 19 myself, which cost me upwards of $200 at the time, costing between $8-$15 each.
Thats 4 years worth of NSO subscriptions and over 130 games, you can see it however you want to see it.
Nobody is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to take this, but the fact remains, the service is good value for money.
The issue with so many people who criticise the NSO, is that its being compared with other similar services and it doesn't hold up.
But the reality is, most of these N64 games on the virtual console cost $9.99, the others cost around $7.99 - if you consider ever SNES/Genesis game being $2.50 and every NES game being $1.
You're looking around $270 in value for the entire service.
Now i believe PS+ is around $400 and Xbox Live is over $500 in value, which is a lot higher than $270...
But $50 a year for $270 worth of video games is a solid proposition, especially after it breaks the $300 mark. I just this people need to stop comparing NSO with other services.
If you think about it separately, it's still great value for money.
@Palaws this is what ive been saying, they have no reason to release this physically, they are not stupid, they know any momentum they had going into this has been lost, i don't see any benefit in releasing this physically.
@Vexx234 this happens because even to this day there is a loud vocal community of gamers outside of the Nintendo fanbase that has continously shat on Nintendo and anything they ever do, with a large majority of them (albeit a small community to begin with) actively demanding that Nintendo goes 3rd party everytime Nintendo get a good game that won't be on other platforms.
Examples of instances such as this have happened even as recently as March this year when Nintendo got MH Rise and a vocal minority of PS users were all up in arms over it being exclusive on the Switch.
This all has the side effect of making a small minority of Nintendo fans very insecure about anything that might threaten their precious company that probably has no idea of their existence.
It's all a bit silly really but unfortunately Nintendo have kind of created that situation themselves by being so hit and miss with their hardware.
In terms of content, gameplay and generally fun to be had here, the buck stops with these 3. This is 150+ hours, Hades is at 100-120 and Hollow Knight at 80-100 hours. All 3 even with DLCs will cost you under $90. In terms of bang for buck, it really doesn't get much better.
This is a media talk for "we don't really want to release a physical version of this game at all" well i was actually planning on buying that. But to be fair i totally expected this to happen to the Switch version following it's disastrous launch.
This really was a disaster, it was the first game they've put on Nintendo consoles since 2017 and the first GTA game in well over a decade.
My guess is that, having been panned so hard by every single angle, they've thrown their kiddy toys out of the pram and quite possibly canned the Switch physical version. With some understandable reasons though.
Considering releasing a game on the Switch physically actually costs a developer money to do and the bad reception this game has thus far gotten, I'd imagine Rockstar probably have cut their loses on this one.
don't expect to see a Switch version of this game at all, if you want to play it, you best free up some space on your SD card
I'm probably going to grab the physical edition off the back of this update and the last one but boy oh boy did they sh*t the bed on this one here.
I mean before all this, i was hoping we'd get GTA 6 soon, but after this, i genuinely fear for what GTA 6 will be like. I'm thinking Cyberpunk 2077 on uppers.
@Zuljaras PS3 was a nightmare because of the duel cell processor, the damn thing was a beast but it was way ahead of it's time. It was still considered a powerful processor even up until 2015, 2 years into the PS4s lifetime.
It was basically what Sega did with the Sega Saturn, made a bespoke device that was years ahead of it's time and the technology wasn't there to compliment it. PS3 wasn't nearly as bad as the Saturn though.
Really surprised it took this long but i suppose this became a thing because Nintendo can't seem to make a good emulator, i guess off the back of Nintendo's inability to provide the goods, someone did this just in case.
Nintendo isn't about strong hardware. They are about strong software.
They make gimped hardware with gimmicks attached to them but they also make some of the best games in every single console generation and they lock those ridiculously good games behind their substandard hardware.
It's a hit and miss business model. It all boils down to what gimmicks they use to sell the hardware and if it'll catch.
The Wii was successful but a fad, got boring real fast.
The Wii U's gimmick didn't work at all.
The Switch hit it out of the park.
Yeah Emulation isn't piracy but as far as i know, the only thing you can do with a modded Switch is download games that Nintendo doesn't have, i haven't heard of a modded Switch playing a suped up version of BOTW. I don't believe you can mod a Switch to play games at 60fps on 4k.
Im fairly certain that can only be done by pirating the game on PC. Considering the game isn't native to PC, that would be considered piracy.
@Hwatt i honestly doubt they managed to take that much money to begin with, the review embargo they had in place when the games had literally been released was a blimp sized red flag, i for one backed out then, holding off for physical now.
But i know many people didn't get the games because of the initial red flags, then it started to become clear they are a mess.
I think if these remakes even managed 2m sales they probably would have ignored the noise and ran with the money.
@mr-duster i gave forced exp share a try and it ruined my entire experience of Pokemon, i have no intention of trying it again.
It's a ridiculous feature that has been added to make an already easy game, even more easy.
The way i see it, if they want to force exp share on us, then i am forced not to support them. Yes it is forced, because i want to support them but i am unable too, their ridiculous feature has forced me into making a decision i didn't want to make.
I honestly don't care that it saddens you either, i don't play games to make you or anyone else happy.
It's a feature so repellant to me that i am forced not to purchase it. Even though i really want too, because these are my favourite games in the series.
Doesn't matter though, not touching another Pokemon game until the company changes direction.
This is expected from SMT, one of the best JRPGs of this generation, to be the best selling game in a region that mainly buys JRPGs.
On hardware:
You can clearly see Sony's focus shift away from Japan, to be fair that was understandable on Sony's part. Especially after the Wii and DS, Sony became a very distant second with their bulky ass PS3.
I mean in Japan the Wii U was actually beating the PS4 some weeks, so i totally understand why Sony shifted focus outside of their home territory, Sony are better off putting their resources in territories that do support them.
The surprising part here is Xbox and how well they are doing. Seems Microsoft could surpass Sony in Japan eventually.
@DrDaisy Nintendo are very anti emulation. This is the exact opposite stance that Nintendo are taking, to a lesser degree so are Sony.
But Microsoft are embracing emulation, that could be really big going forward, it isn't going to create any fanfare for Nintendo's stance by highlighting one of their main competitors is sitting on the opposite, more popular end, of that particular spectrum.
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Re: Poll: Paper Mario Is Out Now On Nintendo Switch Online, Will You Be Playing It?
@SSGodLink it's not really cost effective, you can easily find a good enough emulator and rom online to play this, you can even use the new N64 controller for it too. Not exactly rocket science.
Hell of a lot cheaper than your suggestion.
Re: Poll: Paper Mario Is Out Now On Nintendo Switch Online, Will You Be Playing It?
@JaxonH "so easy to join a group of 8"... lol i don't even know 4 people that i trust who own a Switch.
It's not easy at all.
Re: Poll: Paper Mario Is Out Now On Nintendo Switch Online, Will You Be Playing It?
@SSGodLink buy an N64 and a cart? Lol, you'll be paying about 3 years worth of NSO plus expansion just to play one game.
Terrible advice buddy.
Re: Poll: What's The Best Switch Game Of 2021? It's Time To Rate Your Favourites
MH Rise and SMT V. Nothing else comes remotely close.
Both games can be played for weeks without getting bored.
Re: Nintendo Is Investing In Office Space In Japan To House More Game Development
Maybe this will be a new warehouse/distribution centre, Nintendo like other big companies might be looking to implement their own order fulfilment services and logistics.
Relying soley on other suppliers for this isn't really a reliable thing anymore, with the pandemic having slowed global trade down and continuing to do so, with scalpers running rampant.
This wouldn't be a bad idea but we'll have to see what they do.
Re: Talking Point: What Did You Think Of The Game Awards 2021?
Okay yeah Metroid Dread is a decent enough game but winning awards? Lol this is a niche game that nobody outside of the hardcore Nintendo fanbase would care about. Nobody is about to go purchase a Switch for a game you can finish in a single weekend.
The Game Awards is never really a great time for Nintendo unless they released a Zelda or Mario game that year.
Re: Switch Port Specialist Saber Interactive Is About To Reveal Multiple New Titles
Hoping we get a new Dark Souls game, like 2 and 3 would be nice. Especially as we won't be getting Eldan Ring.
Re: Best Nintendo Switch Soulslike Games - Games To Play If You Like Dark Souls
I would also include Dragons Dogma on here.
Re: Nintendo Switch Online Hit By Amazon Web Service Outages
Was wondering why multiplayer on MH Rise wasn't working.
Re: Nintendo Loses German Court Appeal Over Switch eShop Pre-Order Cancellations
This is music to my ears.
Now they will be forced to be more consumer friendly.
But the fact that a court needs to force them to be consumer friendly is nothing short of an embarrassment.
Re: Talking Point: Should The Nintendo Switch Online Expansion Pack Library Expand Faster?
@River3636 well i mean to be fair there is around 20 games across the entire service that i like and around 5-10 more coming that i want too, so yeah for me, the service is outstanding value for money.
I guess you can't please everyone but honestly, the service is great value. But i get what you mean, its all subjective.
Re: Talking Point: Should The Nintendo Switch Online Expansion Pack Library Expand Faster?
@SilentHunter382 but you don't have to compare it to anything, there is no reason too, so what it almost costs the same price?
So what the value isn't as good as PS+ or Xbox Live?
Is it still good value for money? Yes... so why bother to compare it under those weak reasons?
Be real with yourself right now, pretend that the other services didn't exist at all, pretend that Nintendo's services was the only service, would you honestly, with a straight face, be able to sit there and tell me over $270 value in video games for $50 a year is a bad offer?
Seriously??
Re: Talking Point: Should The Nintendo Switch Online Expansion Pack Library Expand Faster?
@Gwynbleidd you sound quite jaded by all this, i do kind of get why though, you know the annoying thing about the Virtual Console?
I'm not entirely sure how many games you've purchased on it but i purchased around 19 myself, which cost me upwards of $200 at the time, costing between $8-$15 each.
Thats 4 years worth of NSO subscriptions and over 130 games, you can see it however you want to see it.
Nobody is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to take this, but the fact remains, the service is good value for money.
Re: Talking Point: Should The Nintendo Switch Online Expansion Pack Library Expand Faster?
The issue with so many people who criticise the NSO, is that its being compared with other similar services and it doesn't hold up.
But the reality is, most of these N64 games on the virtual console cost $9.99, the others cost around $7.99 - if you consider ever SNES/Genesis game being $2.50 and every NES game being $1.
You're looking around $270 in value for the entire service.
Now i believe PS+ is around $400 and Xbox Live is over $500 in value, which is a lot higher than $270...
But $50 a year for $270 worth of video games is a solid proposition, especially after it breaks the $300 mark. I just this people need to stop comparing NSO with other services.
If you think about it separately, it's still great value for money.
Re: Grand Theft Auto Trilogy's Latest Nintendo Switch Update Is Now Available
@Palaws this is what ive been saying, they have no reason to release this physically, they are not stupid, they know any momentum they had going into this has been lost, i don't see any benefit in releasing this physically.
Re: Poll: What's The Worst Legend Of Zelda Game?
Skyward Sword in terms of what i have played, but i also heard that Triforce Heroes is quite bad too, never played it though.
Re: Talking Point: What Can This $1200 Portable PC Tell Us About The 'Switch Pro'?
@Vexx234 this happens because even to this day there is a loud vocal community of gamers outside of the Nintendo fanbase that has continously shat on Nintendo and anything they ever do, with a large majority of them (albeit a small community to begin with) actively demanding that Nintendo goes 3rd party everytime Nintendo get a good game that won't be on other platforms.
Examples of instances such as this have happened even as recently as March this year when Nintendo got MH Rise and a vocal minority of PS users were all up in arms over it being exclusive on the Switch.
This all has the side effect of making a small minority of Nintendo fans very insecure about anything that might threaten their precious company that probably has no idea of their existence.
It's all a bit silly really but unfortunately Nintendo have kind of created that situation themselves by being so hit and miss with their hardware.
Re: Reggie Fils-Aimé To Lead "Blank Check Company” Focused On Gaming And Digital Media
He has hopped around a bit after he left Nintendo.
Re: Qualcomm Unveils Switch-Style Device Targeting "The Future Of Portable Gaming"
@Damo i see what you are saying, this is basically a smoke signal of sorts to Nintendo for their next console chips.
I can see that.
Re: Qualcomm Unveils Switch-Style Device Targeting "The Future Of Portable Gaming"
I think this will be a bad move, Nintendo will gobble up most of the Market and Valve will gobble up whats left.
I genuinely don't see where these guys will fit.
Re: Nintendo Has Updated Its Switch Online App To Version 1.14.0, See What's Included
Oh wow i didn't even know Nintendo still supported this.
I once downloaded this app to play Mario Kart, it wasn't too bad but nobody used it and it isn't really supported.
Re: Dead Cells' Next DLC 'The Queen & The Sea' Arrives Next Year, Here's Your First Look
This game is part of my triforce of Indie games.
The other two being Hades and Hollow Knight.
In terms of content, gameplay and generally fun to be had here, the buck stops with these 3. This is 150+ hours, Hades is at 100-120 and Hollow Knight at 80-100 hours. All 3 even with DLCs will cost you under $90. In terms of bang for buck, it really doesn't get much better.
Re: Sorry Folks, Fall Guys For Nintendo Switch Won't Be Released This Year
I thought this game already dropped? I mean i never actually cared about it yo begin with. Just kinda surprising.
Re: GTA Trilogy's Physical Edition For Switch Has Been Delayed, Will Now Arrive In "Early 2022"
This is a media talk for "we don't really want to release a physical version of this game at all" well i was actually planning on buying that. But to be fair i totally expected this to happen to the Switch version following it's disastrous launch.
This really was a disaster, it was the first game they've put on Nintendo consoles since 2017 and the first GTA game in well over a decade.
My guess is that, having been panned so hard by every single angle, they've thrown their kiddy toys out of the pram and quite possibly canned the Switch physical version. With some understandable reasons though.
Considering releasing a game on the Switch physically actually costs a developer money to do and the bad reception this game has thus far gotten, I'd imagine Rockstar probably have cut their loses on this one.
don't expect to see a Switch version of this game at all, if you want to play it, you best free up some space on your SD card
Re: Nintendo Switch System Update 13.2.0 Is Now Live, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
The stability here is a bit much, I'm feeling a bit woozy from all that stability.
Re: GTA Trilogy Gets Another Update, Heading To Switch 'In The Coming Days'
I'm probably going to grab the physical edition off the back of this update and the last one but boy oh boy did they sh*t the bed on this one here.
I mean before all this, i was hoping we'd get GTA 6 soon, but after this, i genuinely fear for what GTA 6 will be like. I'm thinking Cyberpunk 2077 on uppers.
Re: Video: Side-By-Side Comparison Of Pokémon's Diamond And Pearl Remakes Running On Every Switch
The DS version because thats the best version.
Re: Former Metroid Prime Engineer Admits He Was "Disappointed" With The Wii's Specs
@Zuljaras PS3 was a nightmare because of the duel cell processor, the damn thing was a beast but it was way ahead of it's time. It was still considered a powerful processor even up until 2015, 2 years into the PS4s lifetime.
It was basically what Sega did with the Sega Saturn, made a bespoke device that was years ahead of it's time and the technology wasn't there to compliment it. PS3 wasn't nearly as bad as the Saturn though.
Re: Zelda 64's Game Code Has Been Successfully Reverse-Engineered, "Opening The Door" For Mods And Ports
Really surprised it took this long but i suppose this became a thing because Nintendo can't seem to make a good emulator, i guess off the back of Nintendo's inability to provide the goods, someone did this just in case.
Re: Former Metroid Prime Engineer Admits He Was "Disappointed" With The Wii's Specs
Nintendo isn't about strong hardware. They are about strong software.
They make gimped hardware with gimmicks attached to them but they also make some of the best games in every single console generation and they lock those ridiculously good games behind their substandard hardware.
It's a hit and miss business model. It all boils down to what gimmicks they use to sell the hardware and if it'll catch.
The Wii was successful but a fad, got boring real fast.
The Wii U's gimmick didn't work at all.
The Switch hit it out of the park.
It all depends on the gimmick.
Re: Here Are All The Winners From The 2021 Golden Joystick Awards
@Expa0 Monster Hunter Rise and SMT 5 are both on the Switch and are probably the best games this year by far imo.
Re: I'd Rather You Didn't Put Me In Mortal Kombat, Says Keanu Reeves
Yeah i agree with him, if they don't do a good enough job, it might reflect badly on his character. I can see his reasoning to be fair.
Re: Dead Cells Becomes The Smash Bros. Of The Indie Scene With 'Everyone Is Here' Update
Where is Zagrious from Hades?
Re: Nintendo Switch Is The UK's Most Wanted Black Friday Tech Deal, Apparently
@FragRed PS5 is a myth at this point.
Re: This Zelda: Breath Of The Wild Randomiser Moves Everything Around And Steals Your Items
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Re: This Zelda: Breath Of The Wild Randomiser Moves Everything Around And Steals Your Items
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Re: This Zelda: Breath Of The Wild Randomiser Moves Everything Around And Steals Your Items
@Rhaoulos lol don't worry man, i know. I can see through the hypocrisy here so I'm not really concerned about what a few sheeple think.
Re: This Zelda: Breath Of The Wild Randomiser Moves Everything Around And Steals Your Items
Yeah Emulation isn't piracy but as far as i know, the only thing you can do with a modded Switch is download games that Nintendo doesn't have, i haven't heard of a modded Switch playing a suped up version of BOTW. I don't believe you can mod a Switch to play games at 60fps on 4k.
Im fairly certain that can only be done by pirating the game on PC. Considering the game isn't native to PC, that would be considered piracy.
Re: This Zelda: Breath Of The Wild Randomiser Moves Everything Around And Steals Your Items
I dunno why NintendoLife reports on such things considering to do any of this stuff, you need to break a few laws to get there.
Like pirating copies of BOTW to your PC.
Glorifying this sort of news is the same as glorifying theft.
Re: Pokémon Brilliant Diamond And Shining Pearl Are Out Today On Switch, Which Version Are You Getting?
@mr-duster comment#83
Your quote "it saddens me".
You said that to me, i don't care about your conversation with anyone else and i don't care that it saddens you.
I want to purchase these games, but i am forced not too because there is a feature that is being forced into these games that make them boring.
I use to be a fan of the series but since they started forcing EXP share, i have been FORCED to stop supporting them.
What is it about that concept that is flying over your head?
Re: Anniversary: Zelda: Twilight Princess Is Now 15 Years Old (That's 105 In Wolf Years)
@johnvboy i agree that BOTW is easily the best 3D Zelda game, but i think TP is quite decent too, a lot better than Skyward Sword in my opinion.
I think in terms of 3D Zelda games, the general consensus seems to be:
1: BOTW
2: OOT
3: TP/WW (tied)
4: MM
5: SS
Re: Rockstar Apologises For GTA Trilogy Issues, First Of Multiple Updates Due In 'Coming Days'
@Hwatt i honestly doubt they managed to take that much money to begin with, the review embargo they had in place when the games had literally been released was a blimp sized red flag, i for one backed out then, holding off for physical now.
But i know many people didn't get the games because of the initial red flags, then it started to become clear they are a mess.
I think if these remakes even managed 2m sales they probably would have ignored the noise and ran with the money.
I doubt they even sold 1m between all systems.
Re: Pokémon Brilliant Diamond And Shining Pearl Are Out Today On Switch, Which Version Are You Getting?
@mr-duster i gave forced exp share a try and it ruined my entire experience of Pokemon, i have no intention of trying it again.
It's a ridiculous feature that has been added to make an already easy game, even more easy.
The way i see it, if they want to force exp share on us, then i am forced not to support them. Yes it is forced, because i want to support them but i am unable too, their ridiculous feature has forced me into making a decision i didn't want to make.
I honestly don't care that it saddens you either, i don't play games to make you or anyone else happy.
Re: Pokémon Brilliant Diamond And Shining Pearl Are Out Today On Switch, Which Version Are You Getting?
@mr-duster Yes it does.
It's a feature so repellant to me that i am forced not to purchase it. Even though i really want too, because these are my favourite games in the series.
Doesn't matter though, not touching another Pokemon game until the company changes direction.
Re: Pokémon Brilliant Diamond And Shining Pearl Are Out Today On Switch, Which Version Are You Getting?
I wanted to buy them but forced EXP share forces me not to buy these games.
Re: Japanese Charts: Shin Megami Tensei V Goes Straight To Number One
This is expected from SMT, one of the best JRPGs of this generation, to be the best selling game in a region that mainly buys JRPGs.
On hardware:
You can clearly see Sony's focus shift away from Japan, to be fair that was understandable on Sony's part. Especially after the Wii and DS, Sony became a very distant second with their bulky ass PS3.
I mean in Japan the Wii U was actually beating the PS4 some weeks, so i totally understand why Sony shifted focus outside of their home territory, Sony are better off putting their resources in territories that do support them.
The surprising part here is Xbox and how well they are doing. Seems Microsoft could surpass Sony in Japan eventually.
Re: Xbox Boss Phil Spencer Calls For Industry-Wide Support Of Game Preservation Via Emulation
@DrDaisy Nintendo are very anti emulation. This is the exact opposite stance that Nintendo are taking, to a lesser degree so are Sony.
But Microsoft are embracing emulation, that could be really big going forward, it isn't going to create any fanfare for Nintendo's stance by highlighting one of their main competitors is sitting on the opposite, more popular end, of that particular spectrum.
Re: Review: Pokémon Brilliant Diamond And Shining Pearl - A Middling Pair Of Remakes
Forced exp share forces me not to purchase these games.
Oh well, i was looking forward to this too.
Re: Phil Spencer: Elder Scrolls 6's Xbox Exclusivity Isn't About "Punishing" Other Platforms
This is obvious, i would imagine going forward that would also include all future iterations of DOOM, Wolfenstein and Fallout too.