@cleveland124 not really.. as essentially it will just be handling network data. All communication and bandwidth overhead would be handled by the phone.
And not all wireless has bad latency. I use a wifi provider where I am (had no choice) and beat out latency provided by Telstra on cable here in Australia, while also having better upload.
That being said I'm not talking about competitive. Not all multiplayer games is about being no.1 - you can just jump online and have fun.
@cleveland124 I thought the same thing at first. But the more I think about it, its a smart move. I love using my Xbox app on the go but doesn't provide any of the voice chat intervention or party setup.
If they nail down the features and continue adding more - this will be huge! Can organise parties and gaming land while away. Communicate with your clan.
And the Switch doesn't have internet on the go. So really if your going to play games on the go your going to tether it to your phone also for internet.
@speedracer216 actually there is quite a few reasons. They can push out updates to the app anytime without having to update the console and interrupting gameplay. You can take your friends list and chat with them anywhere without a console. Frees up resources to make the games look better. Less work required for 3rd parties to implement (hopefully).
Let's face it - Nintendo needs to capture new audience, not just keep the old happy. This could be a very good way if they can provide and continued experience without needing your console.
Everyone is over reacting to this... there is a few points here nobody is picking up.
1: VC games will now support online and takes extra work. Hence the rental to try. 2: We have to pay for online on other consoles already for a full experience. 3: Using an app means persistent community interaction wherever you are - regardless of your Switch being with you. Something only Xbox offfers via their app - but no voice chat intergration. 4: you can only keep the Xbox/ps games while you have your subscription. Nintendo may yet offer monthly discounts on its free VC game.
Keeping the grey for th kids and ordered a red and blue set for me and my partner. Hopefully enough people buy coloured controls and they release more varieties! We really want green and orange đŸ˜›
@Noelemahc skyrim on xbone and PS4 isn't even pushing the systems. Its how mods are able to work on the console without huge performance hits - and it hardly looks next gen in any way.
@GiooiG totally agree! Xbox home sharing has been a god send for us. Allowing us to buy two games and play across four consoles for gaming with the kids.
Seriously hope Nintendo has taken note of this and implemented it also. Cant afford to swap the kids over otherwise.
Well for me, this is a loss.. not so much as i can still buy it on Xbone. But id rather have the portability and support it on Switch! I already bought Skyrim twice, and ill buy it a 3rd for the portability factor alone and trade in my Xbone copy.
Guess i can only hope Skyrim does well and we see Fallout 4 as well. After the tragedy that was mass effects 3 ending - it could be the better option.
@NTELLIGENTMAN if you read the article it does state they are placeholders. EB Aus always over inflated the prices so when official pricing comes out people aren't shocked by "increased" pricing.
People you need to get past the 32GB storage. Flash storage is expensive and will only be used for saves and downloads. Majority of gamers still buy games on physical media as its often cheaper and they like collecting.
The fact it has USB ports on the docks and rumoured SD card slots means lots of options for storage! And its cheaper and you can decide on how much storage you want/need.
Also to add.. if Season of Heaven is anything to go off then what are people complaining about? It looks beautiful if it is indeed a Switch exclusive. And graphically intense.
All we have is rumours.. what we know is that its a custom chip for Nintendo. It could be based off X1 or X2. Im still likely to say X2 as Nvidia didnt win any devices with its design and it will want to get more money back from the R&D.
As for everyone saying "Its Nintendo, Duh", i think your forgetting that even if this is just really close to the Xbone, its still got the power of nearly an Xbone in your hands! It only needs to be close - no Project Scorpio or PS4 Pro games are allowed to be exclusive. Meaning that every time they Develope for either console, it should be little effort tonport it over.
Also.. this is Nvidia tech with a base station that can probably be upgraded in a year or two too further support more powerful graphics ala SLI.
Having watched it now.. what they showed is nothing more graphically intensive than they have shown previously. It looks like a recording issue - i get that same frame rate trying to stream and revord with OBS using the Nintendo Mini. Even bill doesnt appear to move at 30fps in that video.
As for everyone giving Wii U owners the shaft? Really? When has Nintendo ever released a dodgy port or not cared about Wii U owners? This game was designed for Wii U - it will run great (still expecting frame dips)
Same thing happened to Zelda last year on the live streams and it was just the recording. When uploaded on youtube in full it was smooth (except for the occasional.frame dips).
Dont you think with a game so highly anticipated that they wouldnt have show this if it wasnt ready? Im waiting for the official upload on youtube - then if its the same ill jump on the WTF bandwagon.
@WilliamCalley Dont trust the live gameplay from IGN. I thought the same last E3 when the live stream looked like it couldnt handle it - watching it again later from another source and the gameplay was smooth. Still had frame dips but not as bad as the live stream made it look.
@MarcelRguez all speculative. There may be nothing new at all. And two years is a long time in gaming! People arent buying smash anymore or Wii U. The last bit of content for smash was what february now? How many people bought that? People who own a game dont necessarily buy all the content.
Why should I be subjected to paying it full price THREE times because a Wii U owner is upset they feel like they didnt get their moneys worth?
I own the 3x 3DS and 1x Wii U version. Why should I be subjected to buying it at the full price I previously paid for a game 2 years old? Because someone feels entitled or hurt because they have enjoyed it for that long already?
Lets be clear.. I know how much money it will cost to port and test. So im happy to pay a reduced price for everything which is how it should be on old ported games.
@MarcelRguez that would even be a worse move. Why would I want to rebuy the whole thing at full price? Just so someone who has already owned the game for 2+ years feels justified in the purchase? Isnt the fact they have had it for years longer a perk.
The reason they do this is to renew sales and open up the game to new players - generally on a different system.
Your forgetting a lot of time has passed since its launch and release. If people want to wait it is also their choice. This will be offered at a lower price for those who have not only bought it previously, but to recoupe the costs it incurred to port and few new players on a mew system. Once again, we dont even know if extra content will be chucked in to make the package even better.
@MarcelRguez totally disagree. I want the option to play that game on my next console and take it everywhere with me (like the 3DS version). So why arent Nintendo allowed to offer that to me? Because people feel entitled?
Considering the amount of work going into porting it, you cant justify being given it for free. And if someone wants to be upset about it - just dont buy it, Nintendo arent forcing you too.
Nintendo arent throwing the Wii U version out and in no way harms previous owners. Just like it didnt harm Wii U owners when it was also released on 3DS.
Why are people so mad about this? Its done all the time on PS4 and Xbone as "ultimate", "complete" or "definitive" editions.
We dont even know if they are going to charge full price, if it has added extras. Nintendo porting and releasing this on another system is no "big finger" to Wii U owners. Even if the Amiibo are delayed they will still work with your Wii U.
I dont buy this at all. With the size of games and the downloadable nature of updates and their size, im more comfortable with my gut feeling than a rumour. External HDDs will work with the dock, and options for transferring games would be easy as! Only been doing it with mobile phones and tablets for years.
Ugh! Guys and Gals calm down. Look at what we already know and has been shown about the console. It has USB slots on the dock, chances are it supports your standard HDDs out of the box kust like the WiiU and Xbone now. SDXC support will be for storing save games and digital purchases for on the go "only".
We have to be realistic here. Internal Storage costs a fortune! Giving us the option to choose our own storage amount is smart. Allows the console to be cheaper and gives users the choice of how much extra when and if they wish to pay for it.
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Re: Breaking Down the Nintendo Switch Online Service Details
@cleveland124 not really.. as essentially it will just be handling network data. All communication and bandwidth overhead would be handled by the phone.
And not all wireless has bad latency. I use a wifi provider where I am (had no choice) and beat out latency provided by Telstra on cable here in Australia, while also having better upload.
That being said I'm not talking about competitive. Not all multiplayer games is about being no.1 - you can just jump online and have fun.
Re: Breaking Down the Nintendo Switch Online Service Details
@cleveland124 I thought the same thing at first. But the more I think about it, its a smart move. I love using my Xbox app on the go but doesn't provide any of the voice chat intervention or party setup.
If they nail down the features and continue adding more - this will be huge! Can organise parties and gaming land while away. Communicate with your clan.
And the Switch doesn't have internet on the go. So really if your going to play games on the go your going to tether it to your phone also for internet.
Re: Breaking Down the Nintendo Switch Online Service Details
@speedracer216 actually there is quite a few reasons. They can push out updates to the app anytime without having to update the console and interrupting gameplay. You can take your friends list and chat with them anywhere without a console. Frees up resources to make the games look better. Less work required for 3rd parties to implement (hopefully).
Let's face it - Nintendo needs to capture new audience, not just keep the old happy. This could be a very good way if they can provide and continued experience without needing your console.
Re: Breaking Down the Nintendo Switch Online Service Details
Everyone is over reacting to this... there is a few points here nobody is picking up.
1: VC games will now support online and takes extra work. Hence the rental to try.
2: We have to pay for online on other consoles already for a full experience.
3: Using an app means persistent community interaction wherever you are - regardless of your Switch being with you. Something only Xbox offfers via their app - but no voice chat intergration.
4: you can only keep the Xbox/ps games while you have your subscription. Nintendo may yet offer monthly discounts on its free VC game.
Re: Gallery: Here's What The Nintendo Switch Looks Like From (Almost) Every Angle
Keeping the grey for th kids and ordered a red and blue set for me and my partner. Hopefully enough people buy coloured controls and they release more varieties! We really want green and orange đŸ˜›
Re: Video: Did Ultra Street Fighter II's Trailer Just Reveal Its New Mode?
@DanteSolablood Capcom don't own the rights to the characters and some assets iirc. They would have to licence them from Akira.
Re: Skyrim Confirmed for Nintendo Switch
@Noelemahc skyrim on xbone and PS4 isn't even pushing the systems. Its how mods are able to work on the console without huge performance hits - and it hardly looks next gen in any way.
Switch will handle it easily.
Re: Square Enix Announces Project Octopath Traveler For Nintendo Switch
I liked the look of this. Unique art style and typically Square Enid in one package.
Re: ​Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Launches On Switch In April, Features Splatoon Inklings
"Play in TV mode up to 1080p" ? Guess that confirms the switch screen is 720p. I can live with that, its small enough that it wont get pixelated.
Re: Xenoblade Chronicles 2 Is Currently in Development
@MadAdam81 Chronicles X2 should still look the same. This is more fitting in with how Chronicles looked imo.
Re: Zelda: Breath Of The Wild Confirmed For Nintendo Switch Launch Day
As damn excited as I am about this, as I'm on holidays at launch and want Zelda so bad - this was the only launch game announced.
I love Zelda and all, but I need more than just that for launch...
Re: Feature: What We Expect from the Nintendo Switch Presentation
@GiooiG totally agree! Xbox home sharing has been a god send for us. Allowing us to buy two games and play across four consoles for gaming with the kids.
Seriously hope Nintendo has taken note of this and implemented it also. Cant afford to swap the kids over otherwise.
Re: ​Mass Effect Producer Says There's No Plan to Bring Mass Effect Andromeda to Switch
Well for me, this is a loss.. not so much as i can still buy it on Xbone. But id rather have the portability and support it on Switch! I already bought Skyrim twice, and ill buy it a 3rd for the portability factor alone and trade in my Xbone copy.
Guess i can only hope Skyrim does well and we see Fallout 4 as well. After the tragedy that was mass effects 3 ending - it could be the better option.
Re: EB Games Listing Includes Mario Kart 8 and Skyrim for Switch
@NTELLIGENTMAN if you read the article it does state they are placeholders. EB Aus always over inflated the prices so when official pricing comes out people aren't shocked by "increased" pricing.
Re: More Switch Rumours Emerge Online
People you need to get past the 32GB storage. Flash storage is expensive and will only be used for saves and downloads. Majority of gamers still buy games on physical media as its often cheaper and they like collecting.
The fact it has USB ports on the docks and rumoured SD card slots means lots of options for storage! And its cheaper and you can decide on how much storage you want/need.
Re: The Nintendo Switch Power Debate is Back - Report Suggests It Won't Quite Match PS4
Also to add.. if Season of Heaven is anything to go off then what are people complaining about? It looks beautiful if it is indeed a Switch exclusive. And graphically intense.
Re: The Nintendo Switch Power Debate is Back - Report Suggests It Won't Quite Match PS4
All we have is rumours.. what we know is that its a custom chip for Nintendo. It could be based off X1 or X2. Im still likely to say X2 as Nvidia didnt win any devices with its design and it will want to get more money back from the R&D.
As for everyone saying "Its Nintendo, Duh", i think your forgetting that even if this is just really close to the Xbone, its still got the power of nearly an Xbone in your hands! It only needs to be close - no Project Scorpio or PS4 Pro games are allowed to be exclusive. Meaning that every time they Develope for either console, it should be little effort tonport it over.
Also.. this is Nvidia tech with a base station that can probably be upgraded in a year or two too further support more powerful graphics ala SLI.
Re: The Legend of Zelda 30th Anniversary amiibo Provide Food and Goodies in Breath of the Wild
I can live with this. Free in game food is a perk. I would have liked to see more cool stuff like Link Wolf, but thats pretty epic by itself!
Re: Video: Nintendo Shows Off New Area in The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
Having watched it now.. what they showed is nothing more graphically intensive than they have shown previously. It looks like a recording issue - i get that same frame rate trying to stream and revord with OBS using the Nintendo Mini. Even bill doesnt appear to move at 30fps in that video.
As for everyone giving Wii U owners the shaft? Really? When has Nintendo ever released a dodgy port or not cared about Wii U owners? This game was designed for Wii U - it will run great (still expecting frame dips)
Re: Video: Nintendo Shows Off New Area in The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
Same thing happened to Zelda last year on the live streams and it was just the recording. When uploaded on youtube in full it was smooth (except for the occasional.frame dips).
Dont you think with a game so highly anticipated that they wouldnt have show this if it wasnt ready? Im waiting for the official upload on youtube - then if its the same ill jump on the WTF bandwagon.
Re: Video: Take a Look at The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild's New Trailer
@WilliamCalley Dont trust the live gameplay from IGN. I thought the same last E3 when the live stream looked like it couldnt handle it - watching it again later from another source and the gameplay was smooth. Still had frame dips but not as bad as the live stream made it look.
Re: Video: Take a Look at The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild's New Trailer
@HeroOfTime32 cheers for that! I read that shortly after posting so hoping for a decent length trailer now.
Re: Video: Take a Look at The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild's New Trailer
Amazing trailer!!! Way too short though.. need more damnit!
Re: Rumour: Bayonetta And Cloud amiibo Delayed Until Release Of Super Smash Bros. On Switch
@MarcelRguez all speculative. There may be nothing new at all. And two years is a long time in gaming! People arent buying smash anymore or Wii U. The last bit of content for smash was what february now? How many people bought that? People who own a game dont necessarily buy all the content.
Why should I be subjected to paying it full price THREE times because a Wii U owner is upset they feel like they didnt get their moneys worth?
I own the 3x 3DS and 1x Wii U version. Why should I be subjected to buying it at the full price I previously paid for a game 2 years old? Because someone feels entitled or hurt because they have enjoyed it for that long already?
Lets be clear.. I know how much money it will cost to port and test. So im happy to pay a reduced price for everything which is how it should be on old ported games.
Re: Rumour: Bayonetta And Cloud amiibo Delayed Until Release Of Super Smash Bros. On Switch
@MarcelRguez that would even be a worse move. Why would I want to rebuy the whole thing at full price? Just so someone who has already owned the game for 2+ years feels justified in the purchase? Isnt the fact they have had it for years longer a perk.
The reason they do this is to renew sales and open up the game to new players - generally on a different system.
Your forgetting a lot of time has passed since its launch and release. If people want to wait it is also their choice. This will be offered at a lower price for those who have not only bought it previously, but to recoupe the costs it incurred to port and few new players on a mew system. Once again, we dont even know if extra content will be chucked in to make the package even better.
Re: Rumour: Bayonetta And Cloud amiibo Delayed Until Release Of Super Smash Bros. On Switch
@MarcelRguez totally disagree. I want the option to play that game on my next console and take it everywhere with me (like the 3DS version). So why arent Nintendo allowed to offer that to me? Because people feel entitled?
Considering the amount of work going into porting it, you cant justify being given it for free. And if someone wants to be upset about it - just dont buy it, Nintendo arent forcing you too.
Nintendo arent throwing the Wii U version out and in no way harms previous owners. Just like it didnt harm Wii U owners when it was also released on 3DS.
Re: Rumour: Bayonetta And Cloud amiibo Delayed Until Release Of Super Smash Bros. On Switch
Why are people so mad about this? Its done all the time on PS4 and Xbone as "ultimate", "complete" or "definitive" editions.
We dont even know if they are going to charge full price, if it has added extras. Nintendo porting and releasing this on another system is no "big finger" to Wii U owners. Even if the Amiibo are delayed they will still work with your Wii U.
Re: Gallery: Check Out Blaster Master Zero, The Inti Creates Revival of a Classic
Oh my god!!! One of my all time favorite NES games! Cant wait.
Re: Nintendo Switch to Reportedly Use USB-C for Charging, But Dock May Not Support External Hard Drives
I dont buy this at all. With the size of games and the downloadable nature of updates and their size, im more comfortable with my gut feeling than a rumour. External HDDs will work with the dock, and options for transferring games would be easy as! Only been doing it with mobile phones and tablets for years.
Re: Rumour: Nintendo Switch Will Support Micro SDXC Cards Up To 128GB In Capacity
Ugh! Guys and Gals calm down. Look at what we already know and has been shown about the console. It has USB slots on the dock, chances are it supports your standard HDDs out of the box kust like the WiiU and Xbone now. SDXC support will be for storing save games and digital purchases for on the go "only".
We have to be realistic here. Internal Storage costs a fortune! Giving us the option to choose our own storage amount is smart. Allows the console to be cheaper and gives users the choice of how much extra when and if they wish to pay for it.