Although amiibo sales are down, the range of NFC-enabled toys is still an important revenue stream for Nintendo. However, we're now hearing reports that fans might have to endure a wait for the remaining two Smash Bros. amiibo - Bayonetta and Final Fantasy VII's Cloud Strife - until next year.
The rumour comes from LetsPlayVideoGames, a site which appears to have pretty reliable sources when it comes to things related to Switch. According to the report, "a pair" of sources have revealed that Bayonetta and Cloud will be held back until the arrival of Super Smash Bros. on the Nintendo Switch, a port of the existing Wii U title.
It is understood that this game will not form part of the console's launch lineup, but should arrive within the first six months of the Switch's lifespan. LetsPlayVideoGames has also been told that the port will contain all of the DLC released so far.
What do you make of this report? Do you think we'll see a Smash port on Switch, as well as other titles which have been mooted in the past few months?
[source letsplayvideogames.com]
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Well, that makes sense. I was wondering what was taking so long for those amiibo to come out.
(Plus, as I don't have a Wii U, I would love to see Sm4sh on Switch. It would make more sense to port an already amazing game that's balanced and has a ton of content than make a sequel that probably wouldn't be as good.)
Sounds like it would make sense, but I'll believe it when I see it. I think it's very likely that a Smash port on the Switch is a thing, but there's no official confirmation just yet. Can't wait for January 12th!
(Also, I'm guessing this applies to the Corrin amiibo as well...?)
Today I have pink hair and can confirm this is not true, there will be a direct in December all about Wii U and it's future releases.
I think this was pretty obvious by now.
But will these amiibo work in the Switch versions of FF7 and Bayonetta 3?
@dew12333 All 0 of them.
Well, Yooka Laylee is still coming at least.
I'm really happy that the numerous pricy DLCs have kept me from finally buying Smash Bros on WiiU recently... I will be able to buy it with all DLCs on Switch... Sweet !
PS : But in a way, I feel like this kind of decision (re-release WiiU titles on Switch... Making WiiU owners of the games pay a second time) is a bad move from Nintendo toward their real fans i.e. those few who bought the WiiU like me !
It would make sense, but it's a bummer. I've been waiting for the Bayonetta one for quite a long time, and I'm not even sure if I'll buy the Switch "update" of Smash Bros anyway.
Although it's true that if it comes with all the DLCs it was smart for me to buy the 3DS version (and purchase only the DLCs I was interested in) and not buying the Wii U one later.
Is the Corrin amiibo already available?
I'm just glad to see all the restocks they've gotten in the past week or so. Finally getting my collection caught up without caving into those inflated prices from months ago.
HOLD ON, Smash Bros is getting ported to the Switch?, how did i miss that news
so getting that
thanks Nintendo from all us wii u owners.
@Sanicranfast
Sorry just died my hair to Blue and can now confirm Yooka Laylee will now debut on switch in 2018.
Just a wink on the December direct, there are four unheard of games going to be announcement, FOR THE WII U.
Wonder what impact this'll have on Smash Bros 5 if we're getting a port of 4 on the Switch. Will we see 2 Smash Bros games on the Switch or are we going to have to wait till the Switch's successor?
Well, having skipped the WiiU (and being really put off by the DLC "unlock the extra characters with real money"), I'm really happy for the somewhat confirmation of Smash4 port for the Switch
I really hope it includes all the DLC in the original price
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Loosing all respect for Nintendo now
Nintendo's attitude of continuing to shaft the Wii u userbase in favour of impressing their 'new' customers does nothing but frustrate me 😵
If that was true, then what about the people who already bought the DLC...well I wouldn't buy it right away I guess.
i guess this means there's added chance for more dlc to come exclusive to switch. i jsut want my little bayonetta on my desk already.
Smart move by Nintendo the more games they can add to the library the better especially smash switch>3ds
@Oubie Ah. I was was sure there were still 3 to come.
Oi, @Damo what about our boy, Corrin?
It's a massive middle finger to those who already own the game. They really are treating Wii U owners with disdain(and 3DS owners too). And they expect these people to buy a Switch?
Will online be cross play between wii u and switch. Might be good idea.
If these rumours are true then Nintendo is giving Wii U owners no reason to buy the Switch, let's wait and see how that works for them.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE what their saying is "thank u for supporting us please do it again"
If true, the Switch version better cost the same amount as the Wii U retail version plus the cost of all the DLC, or yeah, this is a complete middle finger to Wii U owners
Also, yeah, what about Corrin?
I wouldn't be suprised if there will be massive restocks of Mario, Luigi, Peach, Link, and the rest of the common amiibo.
It costs >€80 to buy the various "money saving" DLC packs for just the Wii U version. That's on top of the €60 for the game itself. That's €140+ versus if this is true, a Switch remaster including all the DLC for €40(estimate but remasters generally tend to be lower in price).
Not to mention that the DLC costs significantly more than the game for significantly less content.
I just wish that awesome character model for Cloud could be put into an FF7 spin-off game or something. Most chracter models for SSB have been great.
I will only get the port if it is available at little to no cost. I have both versions AND some DLC; I don't want to pay $60+ for a game I already own!
Alternatively, they could follow the example of the Wii VC => Wii U eshop games, check your NNID record and only charge £1 to buy the game again on the new system. I'd actually be happy with that, assuming the new version has something extra to sweeten the deal.
@MrGawain You forgot Fire Emblem(Corrin) but so did this story.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE I will never, ever understand this nonsensical, idiotic logic.
A game gets ported years later, with extra content, and somehow that invalidates your original purchase and enjoyment? Ridiculous!
Eh. Unless the port includes new characters and one of them is Isaac, I'll keep my money to myself.
I really only want the Corrin amiibo. When is that one happening?
@Bobb First off the characters offered as DLC were posted after the game was released. Second the characters are included in the update data so that everyone can play against them world buying them but can't play as them.
I wonder if we'll get a new character or two. A simple port that has all of the original content + DLC would be really nifty, especially if it comes at a lower price, but I can't say I would buy the same game twice to quickly. But then again, I suppose a Switch port of Smash isn't really aimed towards me as much as it is people who never owned a Wii U.
Would be cool but not sure I believe it yet.
@EVIL-C If us Wii U owners can have the DLC for free then I won't have a problem.
@Smash_kirby I know, I know. Thank you for the reply.
I also know that time and money went on the production of "extra" characters after the game was sold. But I can't help to feel like it is an incomplete gaming experience when there are more characters to play in your fighting game, but you can't access them, unless you loose a few (some) coins.
But I understand where you are getting at.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE How so?
Compare 3DS sales to Wii U sales. There are still tens of millions of Nintendo fans (perhaps, in hindsight, the more sensible ones) who didn't purchase a Wii U. With the Switch not being backwards compatible, and with millions of people not having the chance to exprience Wii U games, porting games over makes perfect sense and is a way to welcome in the fans who were put off by the Wii U's gimmick and high price point.
Why are people so mad about this? Its done all the time on PS4 and Xbone as "ultimate", "complete" or "definitive" editions.
We dont even know if they are going to charge full price, if it has added extras. Nintendo porting and releasing this on another system is no "big finger" to Wii U owners. Even if the Amiibo are delayed they will still work with your Wii U.
Been saying this for 3 months.
@Grumble_volcano Surprised you weren't in on this one, have you abandoned ship? No sane person would blame you. Though there are no sane people left in the world.
@Captain_Gonru something something amiibo something something Switch
@Mogster Port it over by all means. But delaying the amiibo release like how they delayed Zelda: BOTW, moved Pikmin 4 and other games is saying to us current owners of Wii U that we don't matter. "Even though you stick by us through thick and thin we think you're irrelevant."
It's not like these amiibo haven't been ready for quite some time. Remember this image?
Well now you've got to wait.
@OdnetninAges January 12th I wish it was the 10th
I was wondering where those where. Once I have those three, my Smash collection will be complete, and I can swear off Amiibo forever.
...yeah, just three more...
I won't be buying smash for the switch. I hope I can carry on playing online with my wii u with switch users
Was wondering why the Bayonetta one still hadn't come out... Well, I'll just have to keep being patient.
Wonder if they'll add any new characters to the Switch ver of Smash along with all the DLC...
I assume that Corrin will come out first. Mewtwo, Lucas, Roy, Ryu, Cloud, Corrin, and Bayonetta will have new custom moves by the Switch's Release. And Smash Run can be played on the TV. I imagine that for Ryu, we'd have one set being based on Dan Hibiki: Gadouken, Koryuken, and Dankukyaku!
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Nintendo are king of charging us again for stuff that should be "free" since we already paid for it (VC games since we have a unified account system now with no benefits of a unified account system) so I doubt the DLC would be free unless included with the remaster.
@ElGrego There's still the rumor going around about Nintendo allowing trade-ins of physical copies of wii u games for switch ports, and doing discounts for digital purchases.
@OzHuski Just because it also happens with games in other platforms doesn't mean it should be the norm.
@link3710 That has already been discredited.
Aw, and I actually wanted to pick up Cloud amiibo as soon as possible.
Now I'm Starting To Feel Like Nintendo Is Caring Only For The Switch And Not For The Wii U Because Why Do They Have To Delay The Release Of The Cloud And Bayonetta Amiibo To When The Switch Comes Out? Why Nintendo? Why?
Yup, I see a port coming to the Switch.
@MarcelRguez totally disagree. I want the option to play that game on my next console and take it everywhere with me (like the 3DS version). So why arent Nintendo allowed to offer that to me? Because people feel entitled?
Considering the amount of work going into porting it, you cant justify being given it for free. And if someone wants to be upset about it - just dont buy it, Nintendo arent forcing you too.
Nintendo arent throwing the Wii U version out and in no way harms previous owners. Just like it didnt harm Wii U owners when it was also released on 3DS.
Suspicious to say the least.
@Undead_terror Since it's a port of Smash, then hopefully all the DLC bought should transfer over via your NNID.
I care not for an amiibo for emo-identity crisis having-about as much personality as a stump (well I don't want to insult the stump)-couldn't pick up the signals of a woman liking you even if she was wearing a shirt that said "I love you"-obviously over compensating with that sword.......ahem excuse I'm sorry. I'm meant Cloud. Just give me Daisy in Smash, we FINALLY got her amiibo and she's the only princess not on the roster
Will there be 2 versions of Corrin? Or do we have to 'attach' a male part to seperate him/her.
@OzHuski I think the main problem is, at least for me, Nintendo not giving access to new content to the base game owners. For example, with Hyrule Warriors Legends they added new stuff that wasn't on Wii U, but didn't give Wii U owners the option to buy the extra stuff. If it had just been a complete edition of Hyrule Warriors with the base game and all the DLC, I doubt anyone would have minded too much. But, by giving 3DS owners extra stuff that Wii U owners can't get, it feels like a middle finger to those who originally supported it.
If Smash Bros Switch is a complete edition with all the Wii U DLC, or has extras everyone can get, that's fine with me. But if they add extra content that Wii U owners can't buy, then that's a problem.
@OzHuski Alternative: they put it on the eShop, you buy the base version and then the DLC, like everyone else.
This business model is only going to put people off buying DLC in future games. Why buy the base game at full price and then all the DLC when you can just wait for the definitive edition? Considering how important day 1 sales are for the current AAA business model and how DLC is used to keep the game relevant after release, making people think like this is only detrimental for the devs.
@RainbowGazelle Price is also important.
@MortyKoopa You clearly haven't looked at my comments so. You've made no comment on the story at all and instead unprovokedly attacked me. Just because you don't like my opinion doesn't give you the right to attack it. Reported!
@MortyKoopa "NEVER EVER have I seen you say something positive."
Really? What's this?
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/11/earthlock_festival_of_magic_still_on_track_for_wii_u_with_third-party_producing_port
And guess who sent that story in? Look at my comment too.
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/11/looks_like_nintendo_has_a_sense_of_humour_about_the_wii_us_failure
And guess who sent that story in? Look at my comment too. They're stories only from yesterday.
"90%"
I only need one guess where you plucked that from. Rhymes with class which you have none of.
@MortyKoopa people have opinions you don't like. Shock. Horror!! Grow up dude, the world is full of things we wouldn't choose to have there. It's normal. It isn't normal to have someone personally attacked for said opinions. You sound like Donald Trump!
Delaying the amiibo until the Switch version arrives still sucks for current owners of the game.
I very rarely double dip on games. I'm content having multiple systems and as long as switch has great exclusives, I'm excited. I will only buy any port if I can get a deal, or if I'm going to sell my Wii U version.
@MortyKoopa
"Come at me, bro."
Really? Smh.
Kinda figured this would be a thing. It only makes sense considering how well Smash usually sells and how low it sold on WiiU. (Probably because of the 3DS version, I think.) I wonder if they'll give it name like "Smash Bros. for Switch" or something better. Hopefully something better.
Ugh. I do hope that NS isn't going to be the Nintendo port machine. I am not rebuying wiiu games. Sequels sure but straight ports of Nintendo games? Nope, nope. I do hope that Nintendo will have a line up of new games for those of us that are both multi system owners and bought the wiiu.
I've heard a rumor from Mobipicker that Super Smash Bros., Mario Kart 8, and Splatoon are getting Director's Cut Remasters on the Switch, which I'm hoping is true, but they credited Laura Kate Dale for the information(though she claimed she had nothing to do with that rumor). Mobipicker also rumored that Nintendo Switch will have NFC ID Cards that will allow people to transfer data from one Switch to another, and that there will be 3 bundles, a basic one for $260, a Mario one(Console & Mario Game) for $300, and a Zelda one(console, Breath of the Wild game, and Switch Pro Controller) for $340. I hope these rumors are true, and I hope you do an article on that rumor.
If there's truly a Director's Cut port of Smash Bros. for Wii U coming to the Switch, I hope it at least includes stages from the 3DS version as well.
This sounds like a very good idea. There are millions of non-WiiU owners that are potential Switchers and Smash is perfect party fun, perfect for the Switch. Stop moaning people and be happy that hopefully millions more people will enjoy a game you like/love/loathe (delete as appropriate). Plus if N do a trade-in deal or a discounted download for WiiU owners and you want to upgrade then great, you can. Or you can carry on playing the game you already have. Nothing will change that.
@MortyKoopa it's the Internet dude. People have opinions. I must say I agree with most of his.
But I think you need to chill out.
@DillonatorWright
She already confirmed that the rumor doesn't come from her, and that she can't confirm anything since there isn't enough reliable info. She said she thinks they are guesses based on the what was showed in the trailer.
Personally, I would disregard them as speculation - if a website needs to lie with their source to publish a rumor, there's a high chance the rumor is BS.
About Smash, I have the Wii U version but haven't bough any of the DLC, so I'll hold off buying and wait and see if it comes to the Switch. If it does come with all DLC, I'll trade in my current copy.
@Bobb Well those characters could've easily never returned or the game could've been delayed to add them in, causing more issues.
@Smash_kirby You are completely right. And I'm not saying they are wrong for what they did and do with their games.
All I said is that this model of selling makes me (personally, myself only, unless someone else feels the same) not want to buy their games. In the end of the day it is my loss, but that is it.
@EVIL-C
Couldn't agree more. The entitlement is getting hilarious.
@Captain_Gonru 3 hours of sleep, went to bed watching TTG, woke up watching TTG, still watching TTG.
I don't think that hair and hypnosis swirl is a coincidence.
I JUST WANT CORRIN
Nice to know Cloud and Bayonetta will stick around for another entry.
@Everyone How is it a middle finger to Wii U owners? It's a port of a 3 year old game. Should they just NOT release their biggest game on their new system? How does that make any sense?
I haven't ever played a Bayonetta game, but from the small glimpse we saw of her amiibo, I want it. I also really want Cloud Strife's amiibo the most. Also, why has everyone forgotten about the Corrin amiibo?
I only want the Corrin amiibo... lol
@MarcelRguez that would even be a worse move. Why would I want to rebuy the whole thing at full price? Just so someone who has already owned the game for 2+ years feels justified in the purchase? Isnt the fact they have had it for years longer a perk.
The reason they do this is to renew sales and open up the game to new players - generally on a different system.
Your forgetting a lot of time has passed since its launch and release. If people want to wait it is also their choice. This will be offered at a lower price for those who have not only bought it previously, but to recoupe the costs it incurred to port and few new players on a mew system. Once again, we dont even know if extra content will be chucked in to make the package even better.
@OzHuski Why would I want to rebuy the whole thing at full price?
So you do understand the issue?
Your forgetting a lot of time has passed since its launch and release
Barely two years depending on your region is not "a lot of time", especially since we're talking about Smash and especially when you take into account that people were still purchasing DLC for this game back in February.
This will be offered at a lower price for those who have not only bought it previously, but to recoupe the costs it incurred to port and few new players on a mew system
And you know this how, exactly?
Its about time. I was wondering if they'd scrap these.
Definitely Smash for the NS and I was wondering why the last few Amiibos wasn't being released soon holding them back for the Switch.
@MarcelRguez all speculative. There may be nothing new at all. And two years is a long time in gaming! People arent buying smash anymore or Wii U. The last bit of content for smash was what february now? How many people bought that? People who own a game dont necessarily buy all the content.
Why should I be subjected to paying it full price THREE times because a Wii U owner is upset they feel like they didnt get their moneys worth?
I own the 3x 3DS and 1x Wii U version. Why should I be subjected to buying it at the full price I previously paid for a game 2 years old? Because someone feels entitled or hurt because they have enjoyed it for that long already?
Lets be clear.. I know how much money it will cost to port and test. So im happy to pay a reduced price for everything which is how it should be on old ported games.
but what about corrin?
@OzHuski You shouldn't, that's my whole point. Same reason why we shouldn't pay for VC titles we already own.
I already bought Smash 4 twice, and I own all the DLC in the console version. If Nintendo wants to reissue the same game on the Switch, that's fine by me, but if I already own that game, I should be able to play all its content without double-dipping. I'd be willing to pay a small fee to cover porting expenses, but not if it's above $25, let alone full price.
Let me put it this way: Nintendo has offered its users the chance of playing older games in their new hardware in the past via retro-compatibility. They can't do it this time without porting, that's fine and understandable.
...until you take a look at the competition. This is a non-issue on Steam and similar services due to their computer-based nature. Nintendo could use an account service like that. And if that's not possible for whatever reason, then they could do something similar to what Microsoft is doing with 360 games on XBO. Even if they don't port the whole Wii U library to the Switch, offering the titles that they are porting would go a long way. Sell the extra content of those ports as additional DLC if you must, but don't make people buy the base game and the DLC again, even at a "reduced" price.
@EVIL-C I agree. I simply don't understand the knickers-twisting going on with this story.
@Slim1999
Whoops! Thanks for the heads-up!
There are 3 Smash amiibo remaining, Corrin hasn't been released yet either.
i was just thinking about this yesterday. there gonna wait until the switch to drop the bayonetta amiibo. i dont use amiibos but ill get bayonetta and set it on my shelf just like lucas
Hopefully the delay is also due to FF7 Remake being ported and Bayonetta 3 being made for the Switch.
I'm not sure why people are complaining about this rumor though as there's no details on whether it would be discounted or not.
I think the Switch version is just something people convinced themselves of months ago and there is absolutely nothing hinting at it.
I'm ignoring rumors like this... they're just starting to sound like things anyone would guess with the current lack of information... so without any actual evidence to support any of it, I'm just considering it to be a guess.
I knew this before the rumors came out as I have someone close by sharing me inside info so I posted some on GoNintendo.com a long time ago.
http://gonintendo.com/stories/265338-platinum-makes-bayonetta-2-second-anniversary-amiibo-announcement
http://gonintendo.com/stories/263527-square-enix-considering-dragon-quest-builders-for-nx
Also don't be surprised on Jan 12, 2017 that Nintendo will announce Switch delay due to them saying that Switch has so much support that they feel they need to spread the games apart for them to sell well. Also don't expect Nin to show the secret innovation on the Switch until E3 2017. What they will show Jan 12 are trailers to Bay 3 & FF15 with the Bay & Cloud amiibo & other games which they will hold out for E3 to show them off. Jan 12 is a their Ace cards to try & stop gamers from buying the other systems, so expect a delay.
@DragonEleven its true trust me.
@RainbowGazelle If they don't add anything new, people that already bought the game won't be interessed in the port.
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