Captain-Cluck

@ekwcll
Being a self-confessed fanboy means you get overzealous about opinions that are contrary to your own. It's not a healthy or rational position to be in. Is your life really so awful and non-eventful that you need to spend your time attacking others that you don't agree with?

@SladeStrife
I don't question Nintendo's right to do this. I'm just saying that it really doesn't add value to take features away and charge for them. That's less value. Also, their idea of an online service sucks.

@ekwcll
The current situation has value for me. Taking features away and charging for them is not a good business practice in the long run. A few NES games, blocking local save backups and the awful mobile app are worthless "bonuses" for me.
If they created an awesome online experience with voice chat, a backlog of Nintendo games from all eras, and a decent app with friend messaging capability I would be happily pay $100 a year.

Nintendo's online implementation sucks.

@SladeStrife
.. And breathe.. Calm down.. Sometimes, people have different opinions. Not everything that Nintendo does is a good thing. Including this terrible online service. Customer feedback keeps them honest and stops them from delivering a mediocre service.

@SladeStrife @ekwcll
Value is decided by customers. You say its valuable. I don't. This has no value to me.

The shock that people have different tastes.. I hope I haven't outstayed my welcome on NintendoLife for my contrary views.

@tedko
Agreed tedko. I wish people could respect others points of view. We are not the Church of Nintendo and this is not a fan site - it's a Nintendo news site. I do respect people that put their point of view in a positive way of why they think Nintendo online service is good for them though.

@SladeStrife
I think we've established that value is subjective. What is valuable to you may not be valuable to me. I have no interest to play a load of old games designed for inferior hardware of the 1980s. We shall see the numbers that sign up to the online service anyway. I think Nintendo are going to kill the lobbies for many games because their implementation for online is not a good value proposition for most people.

@subpopz

I can understand and respect your point of view. You've outlined well why it has value for you. I think many people are split on this and I hope Nintendo will improve the service over the coming months so I feel happy to pay up.

I just don't like to be called a crybaby and expected to cough-up because its only $20 - just for voicing a few concerns about it. NES games are well before my time and I have no nostalgia for them, the mobile app is the same functionality as the current one, save data is held hostage with no local backup. I'm not even sure if the online servers are going to be improved with this money..

@Slim1999
It's not about coughing up the low price. It's about value. Nintendo online service doesn't offer enough value - even at $20. Adults earning their own money generally don't like feeling ripped off. It's principle more than anything. Just an unreasonable Nintendo tax.

We vote with our wallets anyway. I think this is going to harm online play and make lobbies more empty.

Thank goodness. I won't need to get the terrible online service now.

@deadpixels
You're right. I rose to it. I'm deleting the off-topic comments.

Please, just give us The Elder Scrolls VI..

It's anecdotal, but the Switch is the first Nintendo device I've owned because the concept is so unique. The Switch is powerful enough to play lots of amazing and immersive games without being tethered to a TV. Plus I'm fed up of chasing specs when it comes to gaming - just give me fun games! I think many other newcomers in the UK are probably thinking similarly.

@Nincompoop
Nintendo are doing their best to make that an attractive option.

This is idiotic. Why wouldn't they include a short grace period for people that had a bit of trouble renewing?

Nintendo just wanted an extra $20 per year from everyone for not much effort. They won't allow us to locally backup saves as that would make their online backup less appealing. The mobile app looks the same as the current one with a rubbish solution for voice chat. The servers will likely be the same. The 3 NES games a month are very stingy and many people under a certain age will not care for them. We will see how good the offers and discounts are, but if its anything like MyNintendo then it won't be worth a damn.

The Monster Hunter demo was awful. Really clunky game and with no depth. Not for me.

Looking forward to Baba Is You. Really unique puzzle game.

@DreamerDC
They shall be exalted in the heavens, far above the earth. Our Lord God Nintendo keeps a watchful eye.

My favourite shoot-em-up, ever. And I've never been able to complete it yet.

@PanurgeJr.
It's not an insult. We were all that age at some point. At least I understand the rationale to your posts here. You're a super fan and this is a "fan site". I also like Nintendo and their games, but no company is beyond criticism or feedback.

@PanurgeJr
This is not a fan site. It is a Nintendo news site. You even speak like a young teen. Do your homework, son.

@PanurgeJr
Another one. You think it's 'us' and 'them' when it comes to debate and talking about this. Grow up you sad person.

@Jokerwolf
Well it's a good point. Games based on movies are very unlikely to be released again. But Nintendo can at least make a service that covers the needs of 90% of people. Instead they don't bother.

@Syrek24 @Jokerwolf
You could have fooled me when you said you're not a petty child. Your comment is just snide attacks on another commenter.

@AlexSora89
Good analysis of the situation. You should "weigh in" a bit more.

@DreamerDC @Cosats

I've also noticed that. Many people here act like we are a church of Nintendo rather than customers with an interest in video games. The word "entitlement" gets bandied about too often here, but it is Nintendo's job to please their customers and keep us purchasing, playing and promoting their products.

Nintendo should offer all these games as part of their online service or they should put them on a virtual console (or alternative) for sale.

@roboshort
If they also move into SNES, Gamecube and N64 games, they will easily add value and justify their Nintendo Online subscription service a bit more. Plus they will kill off emulation as the Switch will be THE place to play old games and not bother messing about with files and emulation. Another reason to buy a Switch.

Win-win.

Nintendo can take down a few emulation sites, but 10s more will pop up.

It's a losing battle unless Nintendo get creative like Spotify and Netflix have done to the music and movie businesses.

Ten old NES games doesn't cut it.

God of War is a phenomenal game in an industry littered with microtransacrions and recycled, boring gameplay.
It deserves the sales its getting.

I really hope we get this. I would prefer it to Super Smash Bros.

@electrolite77
Agreed. I think many people that had stopped gaming, felt they'd grown out of gaming or felt too busy, love the Switch platform. Myself included.
They've made it appeal far beyond its core Nintendo fanboy following - which is a good thing for everyone and for upcoming releases.

I hope they try to bring TES VI to the Switch.

I'm having a blast playing Skyrim for the first time - after everyone else on earth. I've played 25 hours and I don't think I've even scratched the surface. I've managed to get to level 10 and completed 5 companions quests and I have lots of of quests to do in the logbook.

But what did Todd Howard have to say about this?!

Spreadsheet Manager 2019 Edition. I hope we get a better FIFA this time.

@Syrek24
Your post is extremely cringeworthy and written as though someone insulted your religion. Calm down a bit and try not to act like a precious snowflake.

It's better to stick to making games you're passionate about and produce a better product. Why not just bring FFXIV or Elder Scrolls Online to the Switch rather than create a new one?

It wound be amazing if Telltale could port over the Sam and Max games. I doubt they will though.

I really think this is a unique concept and glad it's on the Switch. A few patches and it may have the potential to be 8/9 out of 10.

@Ladasta
Fair enough. I guess we all see things from a different point of view.

@Ladasta
Calling the gameplay repetitive shows you never actually saw the game in any great length. This game has 3D running levels, underwater scuba sections, 2.5D platforming sections, mini games and boat and vehicle levels. Hardly repetitive. Controls were a bit wonky though, like most ps1 games.

We love us some Crash! Naughty Dog at its finest.

I reckon Bethesda are going to bring The Elder Scrolls VI to the Switch. I don't think many people would even care about Assassin's Creed or ARK then.

@MrGawain
I think you've put your finger on it in your final sentence. We've seen plenty of triple-A developers create soulless games that make them look pretty but have poor or limited gameplay. If we wanted that, we may as well watch a movie. Also, they have less options for monetisation and microtransactions on Nintendo's platform.

@StuTwo EU milk-drinkers!

Please bring Way of the Samurai 3 + 4 to Switch. They're fantastic.

You couldn't buy a one-car garage in Central London for £50k. Never mind this Hyrule house.

@StuTwo
With the Skyrim reference, Brexit is obviously like joining the Stormcloaks.

It's probably a bit late in the day and too close to the release date.

I'm looking forward to co-op play on this one.