UK Charts: New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe Launch Sales 24.8% Higher Than On Wii U, Hits Number One

I guess 3D World Deluxe is a given

Reminder: only 40k wiiu sold in the first week in UK, and the most bought game was nintendo land.

I just can't get in to it. I really don't dig the "NEW" SUPER mario art style and the soundtrack. My kids like it tho so it will remain on the the shelf.

Then i want Super Mario Sunshine Deluxe.

I'm amazed at how well Nintendo is doing in the UK charts, I don't ever remember Nintendo having such a constant prescience in the UK before

Wahuuuuuuuuuuu

Hmm, after this release I wonder what are we going to get in February and onward.
We know only Yoshi in March but every other month is a mystery.
And I'm talking about Nintendo titles only...I know we have Dragon's Dogma in April for instance.

I hope we will have a Direct this month to clarify this and show us some surprises!

A combination of having a more entrenched and bigger market plus a console more people seem to want, enjoy and understand.

Also the margin should be even higher, digital is much stronger with switch + there was an eshop promotion.

Well worth it

I want Nintendo to make a Waluigi game. I'd pre-order the collector's edition in a heartbeat. This, however, I'd only buy if it dropped below $10.

@AlexOlney You bet there will be!

I'm not surprised it did better, but the percentage I wasn't expecting to see. For the amount of Switch owners that passed on the Wii U, it was going to sell well for the Switch. NSMBU Deluxe is going to be a good evergreen title going forward
for the Switch unlike the Wii U. Glad it had a good launch.

I decided to double dip myself, bought it on launch day at my Best Buy. My purchase was made for a couple of reasons: my Gamers Club Unlocked is expiring in two months, traded in a game I was playing and had a $10 reward. Grabbed NSMBU Deluxe and Tales of Vesperia for about $68. For those on the fence, I'm enjoying it way more on the Switch than I did on the Wii U, but I really do miss the Miiverse feature of the old game.

@AlexOlney, not as angry as PS4 and Xbox One gamers. They're going to be livid. Haha.

Now, I'm looking at Square Enix... bring on FF VII, IX and XII! I'm ready!

@TheAwesomeBowser A Waluigi game would be a weird one-off thing probably. I would kind of want to see a Super Wario Bros. game that's a twisted version of Mario games. Making greed and desire to one-up Mario as their primary motivation, rewarding players for screwing over their partner in some way (though still needing them for some of the co-op sections) and maybe even making the players go right-to-left, to hammer home that it's kind of an "evil twin" version of the game.

Any word on how Vesperia did?

I thought Waluigi was a meme and nothing more.

He would be a more interesting character if it wasn't for his really awful name

I would have expected it to be substantially higher considering that the Wii U version was a launch title (to a userbase of zero), but I guess not all of the 8 million or so that bought it on Wii U are going to rush to buy a barebones port. I'm already halfway through both campaigns. I really wish that they had rounded out the package with the Wii game as well. They could have called it New Super Mario Bros. All Stars; a compilation for the new generation.

If Nintendo felt particularly generous (and they rarely are these days) they could have thrown in the DS and 3DS games for a truly complete package as they decide where to take the classic Super Mario Bros. series next (aside from the inevitable Switch edition of Super Mario Maker).

As much as I am enjoying playing the U games again, I realise that they have been so forgettable that the majority of the levels feel completely new to me. The New series has had its time in the sun and an overhaul is long, long overdue.

NSMBUD is such a lol of an abbreviation. Nintendo need to get better at naming things.

I do wonder if all those internet memes also helped

@Silly_G I loved the DS and 3DS versions more than the Wii and Wii U ones.

I agree with your comment. NSMBU was largely forgettable with my Wii U experience. I was looking for every excuse not to play it. Now, on my Switch, I played 3 days straight for 1-2 hours and enjoyed it more.

@Kidfunkadelic83 This is the ONLY platforming game I can play with my wife and kids, which is why I bought it. Donkey Kong: Tropical Freeze is far too difficult (and requires both players to be skilled to get through the cart levels).

3 Switch exclusives in the top 10. Nintendo is doing great.

Game is so much fun, we are havi g a blast with it. Went shopping yesterday and both my local Target and Gamestop were completely sold out surprisingly. They both said they had a decent amount and ran out on launch day. Game is definitely going to be a cash cow, hope 3D World is already in the works!

@progx : The original on DS was something special. It was a magical return to form. U and 2 were released in very close proximity to one another, which did neither of these extremely derivative instalments any favours. I recall enjoying U a lot more than 2 though. 2, while lovely in 3D, felt like more of the same.

The Wii version was also very exciting at the time as it was the first classic Super Mario Bros. game released on a home console in 16 years or so, but even that felt like a retread of the DS game that preceded it.

I am enjoying U Deluxe a lot more on Switch than I did on Wii U. I have been waiting for a classic Super Mario Bros. experience since launch, so I'm really grateful to finally have it. At the rate that I'm going though, I'll probably complete both games (coins, secret levels, and all) by the end of the week.

I would love to do a speedrun with friends at some point.

@Silly_G digital adoption is nuch higher + eshop promotion

It should be a lot higher than 25%

Great Game I love Playing this game in nintendo and i used to play this game in my earlier childhood age.

@NotoriousWhiz Yeah DK is on another level. Some of those levels are very tricky. Only thing I don't like about DK is some of the levels feel really long.

A port of 3D World is unlikely, because that would compete with Odyssey. Same reason why we won't see The Wind Waker HD of Twilight Princess HD remakes on the Switch.

Of all the Wii U games I only want Xenoblade Chricles X and Super Mario Maker to be ported to the Switch (and secretly also TWW)

I would play and buy it, if it wouldn't be priced like a new game. Sorry Nintendo, but full price is too much for this game. I'll buy it when it's available for 20$/€.

I still have it on my WiiU. Pre-ordered and bought Switch version day 1. Didn't even started WiiU version until now. Will definitely dive in to Switch version. It is so much easier to play game on Switch then console.

GTA V is like the freaking Terminator. You think it’s finally been killed off, destroyed by an exploding truck. Then the smoke clears, and there is Rockstar’s game, once more stalking its way into the top 10.

Nice one, NSMBU, by the way. How many more Switches are there in the UK than Wii Us now? It’s as least twice as many, and must be closing in on three times as many by now.

They should have taken the 'U' out of the name. Sounds ridiculous.

Also should've come up with something other than 'Deluxe' since this is a stripped version of the game.

And people will still question why Wii U games are being released on switch. Not releasing these games would be leaving money on the table.

I bought it instantly <3

@Sculptor They could have included style swop like in Super Mario Maker so it could be played in Super Mario World style. I would get it! As it is, it's the same game I already have with an easy mode that I wouldn't use. Recommended only if you don't have a Wii U as yet another reiterative Switch release.

My youngest little brother purchased this game Saturday. He’s already beaten it gosh knows how many times on Wii U. He probably knows where all the Star Coins are. He’s already beaten NSMBU and is working on Luigi U now.

As for me, I’m gonna wait and get this later. There’s other titles I’d rather save for coming up.

24%. You are not comparing apples with apples. So the comparison is somewhat meaningless.

We are nearly two years into the Switch so how many Switches have been sold to date compared with how many Wii u's were sold at launch.

Maybe 24% is poor.

@SmaggTheSmug Nice idea. You should propose it to Nintendo. 👌

@progx Personally, I'm angry people even bought this cash grab, Wii U owners or not.

@kobashi100 I'm questioning it because Nintendo has barely released any new games on Switch, just these lazy ports.

@aris4me Get a refund quick! This is nothing more than a lazy port intended to grab everyone's hard-earned cash!

@chtan69 Return it and play the Wii U version that you have.

@BlueOcean Style swap would've been a great idea. Make it a brand new title and that's a day one purchase from me!

I wonder if Nintendo will update games that would look much better in higher resolution and remastered textures like Super Mario Sunshine or remake Super Mario 64, the best 3D Mario games in my opinion.

@redd214 I wanna know, how many people do you know have a Wii U?

I fully expected this, I was in Smyths on Saturday and they'd completely sold out.

And there you go. Nintendo crunched the numbers and saw that they could sell this game to a larger audience. I’ll get it eventually (I have the seperate games so it will be nice to have one download) but I am in no hurry. Still I am happy that more people get to play this in spite of the vocal minority complaints.

@TheAwesomeBowser personally I don't k ow anyone that has a wii u, why do you ask?

You mean a port of a game to a console with more systems in the wild than the entire lifetime sales of the original console sold more than a launch title on the original console that had a small install base.

I'm shocked! Shocked I tell you.

@redd214 Because you said this cash grab was sold out at your local GameStop and Target.

@Knuckles-Fajita Push Square mentions 11th place overall.

@Marios-love-child Good Lord, why are so many people buying this? If everyone wanted to play this so badly, they should've gotten a Wii U way back when.

Great result. Honestly didn't expect it to do so well.

@TheAwesomeBowser seems like the release and popularity of this game really bothers you which is a shame. Hope you get to play something that you find worthwhile soon

If you missed out on this one give it a try. Its is by no means anywhere near the best platformer on switch. But it is still fun and yes it is a bit of a cash grab but unless you have a Wii U than you should consider this a lot cheaper than buying a wii u and Mario bros deluxe, with all the news articles of wii u old units going for silly prices.

In my opinion, this is one of the best Mario Brother games of all time! I hope they continue making them for years to come.

This is great news. Hmm 25% higher? I am gonna guess that will put it at 50k physical. I could be wrong, but we shall see.

@Bengals76 No1, I love the Bengals. No2, I agree so much! I played over 70 hours of this game on the Wii U. I love this game.

@redd214 Yoshi comes out soon, so that's something. Then there's Animal Crossing and Luigi's Mansion later in the year. So I'm good. Oh, and I almost forgot Untitled Goose Game. That looks wild.

@bones I feel like you're trying to change my mind on this, despite you not mentioning me. LOL.

I get a feeling this will do well, the sort of game where you can bang out a level here, a level there, perfect for people on the go pr who just fancy a quick burst on the sofa. I opted for Super Mario 3D World on the Wii U instead, which I thoroughly enjoyed - I'm not sure I'll pick this up.

@Faruko Those numbers are physical only

@BarFooToo weren't you around in the Wii/DS era?

@pdapanda

And? The UK is a smaller market than say...the United States. Possibly japan to by a much smaller margin. Don’t think in terms of “ZOMG Million seller!” because outside of like FIFA, COD and maybe 1-2 outliers a year it doesn’t really happen in the UK.

These are the numbers for the top 20 selling games in the UK in

1 FIFA 19 1,889,401
2 Red Dead Redemption 2: 1,757,212
3 Call of Duty: Black Ops 4: 1,172,855
4 Spider-Man 676,621
5 Mario Kart 8: Deluxe 458,675
6 Far Cry 5: 434,133
7 Crash Bandicoot N-Sane Trilogy 430,551
8 God of War 399,395
9 Forza Horizon 4 392,960
10 FIFA 18: 351,788
11 Grand Theft Auto V 339,805
12 Spyro Reignited Trilogy 333,725
13 Battlefield V 313,100
14 Assassin's Creed Odyssey 305,937
15 Super Smash Bros Ultimate 284,155
16 Super Mario Odyssey 240,710
17 Call of Duty: WWII 230,576
18 Pokemon: Let's Go, Pikachu 227,767
19 Shadow of the Tomb Raider 226,125
20 Fallout 76: 218,534

A mere three games passed the Million seller mark.

In the United States I can assure that there are many more million sellers

Confirmed (officially or not)

Smash Ultimate
Pokémon Let’s Go
Super Mario Party
Super Mario Odyssey
Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild
Spider-Man
Call of Duty Black OPS 4
Red Dead Redemption 2
Grand Theft Auto V
Monster Hunter World
And quite a few more

Omg awesome 😎 love to see them doing well in uk

@Pikachupwnage No matter the size of the market is still reflects Nintendo's position in the uk. Or are you just saying there is no relavence to UK sales figures, on a UK website!

@TheAwesomeBowser The Wii U was turd though. So I didn't. And I'm enjoying this nice game absolutely fresh.

@Pikachupwnage Hang on, are you saying that nations with large populations containing a healthy video games market sell more per title than nations with not so large populations? What madness is this?!

@sanderev “A port of 3D World is unlikely, because that would compete with Odyssey. Same reason why we won't see The Wind Waker HD of Twilight Princess HD remakes on the Switch.”

Not sure I agree with the logic. People can and do buy multiple 3D Mario games and even if it competes, Nintendo wins if people buy their software. If they buy one title that’s good, two or more 3D platformers is better. This consoles intended to sit in the market for probably 7+ years and there’s room for multiple Mario titles.

The Wii U saw Windwaker, Twilight Princess and Breath of the Wild over its very short life, so why can’t the same three titles appear on the far more popular Switch where there’s much more room for sales of all three titles.

I’d also argue Mario 3D World is very different to odyssey just as BOTW is drastically different to any other Zelda title. They’re decent candidates as opposed to say Super Smash from the Wii U which likely doesn’t add anything that isn’t in Ultimate.

@TheAwesomeBowser

Someone feels a little butt hurt by this game aren't they

@BlueOcean agree on Mario 64. I found odyssey boring in comparison.

So what, like 5 copies instead of 4, 50 instead of 40? UK ain't exactly Nintendo's stronghold, and 25% more than not much is still not much.

That 25% comparison aside, hats off to them for any copies they sold of a 7 year old game at $60, basically free money. I'm pretty sure near the end that game+dlc bundle was included in a Wii U bundle so they were giving it away for free, and now it's $60, that's some mark-up.

Glad it’s selling well. Good for Nintendo & good for those who were interested. I’m in a holding pattern on this game. Owned it on Wii U and won’t double dip until it goes on sale for closer to $40

@Kidfunkadelic83 Spot on. Super Mario 64 remade would be amazing. The game is so much fun compared to Odyssey.

@rjejr That's why they are porting Wii U games, no remastering required and if you are shameless like Nintendo you can still charge full price even to those that have the Wii U version on the same account.

Bring on the next Wii U port, hopefully the next Direct reveals some more whenever that ends up being.

Couldn't bring myself to buy NSMB again at full price, it does slightly grate on me when I bought PS4 Shadow of the Colossus for the second time day 1 for £24, which was a ground up remaster, and a NSMB port is no cheaper than £40!

And Crash is still there!
I think the rest of the world gets why FIFA dominates the UK charts but our love for this PS1 remake (which fared well internationally but is long burnt out now) is unmatched.

@BlueOcean I don't blame Nintenod for all the ports, we were all calling PS4 the Portstation for it's first 2 years w/ all of the PS3 games it was getting, and if you view Switch as their next portable then they are simply porting their home console games to their portable, which makes sense, but charging $60 for what probably should be a $30 Select is a bit off-putting and I really don't see how anybody could double-dip at that price. For those who skipped the Wii U I can see why they would pay $60, it was a good game, but it's 7 years old, $40 and it would still be 90% profit.

Does make me glad I still own my Wii U and all of these games, saves me a ton of money.

@toffeecrit @rjejr Absolutely. Even buying a new Wii U and the games now is cheaper (except on some websites) and some of them even play better on Wii U.

I am fine with ports, they bring games to more platforms, but while Microsoft releases five remastered Halo games in The Master Chief Collection, Sony releases three remastered Uncharted games in The Nathan Drake Collection and Activision releases three remakes at discounted price (Crash and Spyro), Nintendo releases individual full-priced ports. It's the only company that gets away with it.

@HexagonSun Yeah, i said it on the other threads, New Super Mario Bros. U is the best New Super Mario Bros. game by a huge margin: level design, gameplay, content, backgrounds, map and slightly better visuals and music. I recommend it to anyone with a Wii U or Switch. Star Road and New Super Luigi are nice extras. I wish they had included Super Mario World art style and moves, like throwing items and Yoshi's tongue upwards. That makes Super Mario World awesome to play and it still has the best physics, too.

Xenoblade Chronicles X next please!

@Knuckles-Fajita I tried to buy a copy this weekend at a Game and they did not not have a single copy in it (not because it was sold out but because they did not think it will sell...)

I really like this game. In fact, and I will take heat for saying this here, but I PREFER the 2D style Super Mario games more than the open-world Mario Odyssey style.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed Super Mario Odyssey, but it wasn't as good to me as a traditional 2D style Mario game.

Not surprising, on Wii U it was a launch title, and the Switch has basically twice the install base as Wii U did in it's lifetime.

This is exactly why companies port games — it's easy money. No need to be upset by it, cause that's never gonna change. If people like the game enough, they will buy it again for their current console. And NSMBUD may not be a revolutionary title, but it was still a fun game, and totally worth it to those who never played it.

Poor WiiU. Reminds me of the scenario were a child does something cute and is brushed off and ignored, then their younger sibling does the same thing and everyone laughs, and cheers.

Poor middle child WiiU.

NSMBU DX sold between 15,000 to 27,000 copies at launch in the UK.

Legs will determine how much this game sells in the long term.

So it sold poorly then?

@gokev13 agreed. The wiiiu was and is still a great system but between poor marketing and a bad release time and the internet bandwagon that hates the system but likes the games it’s darned if it does darned if it doesn’t. (I think it should have been released a year earlier.)

I’m enjoying the ports for the same reason I enjoyed any other ports. Beloved games moved to a current system but I very much enjoy my wiiu as well.

@Ryu_Niiyama
The ports are a great idea and a smart move. The ability to play these games on the go is a huge draw for me but I usually don't buy them since I still have my WiiU hooked up and I already owned the WiiU versions already. I am still working through some of my WiiU games. Right now I am going back and forth between Smash 4 and Ultimate. I never finished all the challenges in 4 and I have about 10 left.

I will probably end up getting this down the line but it would have been nice if they added a level maker in it for some extra content.

I also would have preferred having a super Mario 3d land/super Mario 3d world double pack. Those two games have to be the most fun I have had in a Mario game in some time. Would love another sequel to that series.

Woah, woah, woah... It even outsold FIFA, one of UK's most beloved game franchises?

Awesome.

Got the last copy from Game over the weekend, bloke behind the till said they wasn’t expecting to sell so many.

I just find it amusing that they kept the "U" in the name. It doesn't mean much for a Switch game, but most of us never knew what the U meant in the first place.

I see some people still think Mario Maker is a sure thing. If it is, I wish they'd get it out so it could have a longer lifespan than it got on Wii U. Coming out late in 2015, it really only got a little over a year before the system it was on had it's plug pulled. Still one of the biggest shames about the Wii U tanking the way it did, because it was the maybe the definitive Gamepad game. There's no way to make a Switch version that delivers the same experience unless they came up with some way to have the Switch connect to the dock while still handheld. The 3DS can replicate the two screen aspect, but it's much slower going back and forth between edit and play, and the online element is sorely lacking. If they do port it, I would hope they make it compatible with the levels already there from the Wii U.

@Silly_G
Indeed. Releasing 4 very similar NSMB games in a fairly short space of time (especially 2 and U, which literally came out within a couple of months of each other...) seems to have given the series a bad reputation, even among fans, but it shouldn't be forgotten how good and fresh at the time the first two were, just because the next two (while technically still very good in their own right) felt so stale and derivative.

I love how Nintendo are marketing it; "For the first time, play 2D Mario in HD on the go!" I wonder if they'd like to be any more specific...

The problem with a Nintendo fan site like this is so many people know the Wii U well. For many of us, the Switch is the first Nintendo console in some time and we know nothing about the Wii U. So for me personally, Nintendo would be crazy not to release every game they made for Wii U. I honestly didn't know 3d world existed until I saw it mentioned here.

From this perspective charging full price doesn't seem crazy because it never existed before (or, stated another way, it's a brand new game for many people). I wish it was cheaper but it's easy to see why they can do this.

FWIW, I also bought this game. My wife and I play it together and that was one of the main reasons I bought it (I love that Nin values multiple player on the couch games). i will say that it looks outdated in the graphics department and all the "plastic" criticism is warranted, but the gameplay is great.

And people wonder why Nintendo releases these ports?

Great-a game, great-a news!

Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze on Switch outperformed the Wii U version by a similar margin, and saw much better legs as well.

@BlueOcean agreed, can't knock it for being a port, 10m+, and growing (guestimate), Switch owners never had the chance to get it. It is just personally harder as a Wii U owner to justify paying a premium again for pretty much the same game, albeit with true portability.

I’m going to wait until a price drop because of my backlog (only 2D Mario I never played at all), but this was undoubtedly going to do well and was a no brainer for a port after the others did so well. The small install base of the Wii U was the main reason for the lower sales compared to other entries. With the success of the Switch, this has a shot of outdoing BOTW and SMO in total sales.

That is a lot of disappointed People! 😉 hey, if it gets me a Wooly world and Pikmin 2 port I’ll take it

Average Nintendolife poster: "I already played NSMBU on Wii U! Overpriced port!"

Average consumer: "What's a Wii U? This new Mario game looks great"

😁

I had a Wii U, so it's not for me, but very pleased to see it find a bigger audience. Fantastic 2D platformer. Kind of weird how we saw 4 NSMB titles in 6 years from 2006 to 2012, and now in the 6 years since, not had any, other than this port. Would be nice to see an actual new one in the Switch's lifetime.

@Smigit Those all came before Breath of the Wild on the Wii U. It'd be weird releasing an older game if you have a newer one on the system.

@TheAwesomeBowser

Looks like you are the guy getting angry in the chat!

Wow! Now, as much as I like 2D Mario, I must admit I never thought it would hit #1! Nintendo really are making progress in the UK.

Estimated UK launch sales of the New Super Mario Bros games:
> NSMB DS: ~25,000
> NSMB Wii: ~50,000 - ~75,000
> NSMB2: ~32,000
> NSMBU: ~12,000 - ~22,000
> NSMBU DX: ~15,000 - ~27,000

Fun Fact: NSMB DS has sold ~2 million copies LTD in the UK. Its launch week sales barely accounted for over 1% of its lifetime sales.

@KryptoniteKrunch Pretty much, slight amend to your quote, it's never I, it's always we...

Average Nintendolife poster: "We've already played NSMBU on Wii U! Overpriced port!"

@ryancraddock This chart data from earlier is apparently wrong! https://twitter.com/GIBiz/status/1084852157105475584

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2019-01-14-uk-charts-new-super-mario-bros-u-deluxe-takes-no-1-in-quiet-week 'Update: UKIE has informed us that the charts are "missing a significant number of sales, across multiple retailers." An updated chart will be issued shortly.'

@gokev13 "Poor WiiU. Reminds me of the scenario were a child does something cute and is brushed off and ignored, then their younger sibling does the same thing and everyone laughs, and cheers. Poor middle child WiiU".

Yeah just read @subpopz comment and it's exactly that. I always wonder why some Switch fans find Switch so good and Wii U so bad when Wii U is great and Switch is like a portable Wii U minus backwards compatibility and free online.

@Jimsbo I still play Super Mario Maker and thankfully the online is alive. The 3DS version doesn't have many online functions (never did) so you are absolutely right but I love the Nintendo levels of that version. Super Mario Maker is a good reason to own a Wii U, some people believe it would have made the console more successful if released in 2012/13. I think so as well.

@electrolite77 @Beatley82 The Wii U was not trash! It had local save backups and online FOR FREE. It also had all those games you keep begging to have on Switch.

@Marios-love-child I'm butt-hurt because it's frustrating to own a console only to have all it's games ported to another system I own with barely any changes for $60USD/$80AUD/$100NZD.

@BlueOcean "...while Activision releases three remakes at discounted price (Crash and Spyro), Nintendo releases individual full-priced ports. It's the only company that gets away with it."
Good to see someone with common sense on this site. Thanks.

@subpopz Why are you supporting these cash grabs when you already have all these games on Wii U? It's like you're trying to go broke.

@SBandy That's because this game is nothing more than a cash grab made to cash in on the millions that never owned a Wii U.

Wonder if a large chunk of people brought it because they were convinced Bowsette would be in the game?

Oh, and I'm sure that trend helped out too. XD

Yeah I'm the same pretty much. There is just no magic there at all. I grew up on snes and world and 2 are my faves also. I was actually going to sell Mario and get DK but my kids will kill me.

The Switch version of Tales of Vesperia was actually the best-selling version of the game, which is shocking as multiplatform games that used to be platform exclusive typically sell significantly best on the platform the franchise originated on (i.e. Final Fantasy, Metal Gear, Spyro, Kingdom Hearts, etc).

The XBO version of Tales of Vesperia wasn't even among the Top 20 best-selling XBO game of the week, which means it sold a few hundred units despite launching as a 360 exclusive a decade ago. Seems like the JRPG market on XBO is completely nonexistent.

@TheAwesomeBowser

I do get that frustration, I haven't bought it (yet) for the very same reason.

What you have to remember though is that there will be literally millions of people to whom of which this will be a brand new game. Just let them enjoy it for what it is (an absolutely fantastic game) instead of being so negative. There are countless reasons which people have already stated above as to why the Wii U didn’t sell particularly well. The Switch on the other hand has really caught the public’s imagination and is selling really well.

But most importantly of all..... Nobody is pointing a gun at your head making you buy it again are they?

@westman98

"Seems like the JRPG market on XBO is completely nonexistent".

Final Fantasy XV was successful on Xbox, not as much as on PS but PS4 has the largest userbase. I think Kingdom Hearts III will be successful on Xbox as well. We'll see.

The updated chart paints an even prettier picture for Mario Deluxe and for Tales of Vesperia.

Mario was always going to sell well, I can see it selling 5 million + lifetime.

@Marios-love-child Darn, you got me there.

@subpopz Pathetic.

@subpopz The player doesn't buy a game on a good console because they had said game on a terrible console.
What I'm trying to say is, if you had a good game on a bad console, you shouldn't see any reason to buy it again on a good console unless it has a truckload of new content.

I'm not white knighting for the Wii U, but how many times do we have to hear the the Switch has outsold the Wii U? The install base is already double and will keep growing, so of course EVERYTHING will sell better. This is getting so old.

It's funny to see people who were defending the Wii U hard a few years ago calling it rubbish now. 😏

@ryancraddock no prob . I see the updated info is live, quite a difference relatively speaking for NSMB and good to see Vesperia up there.

@BlueOcean
I thought the WiiU was great and I have enjoyed the second screen concept since the DS even if it isn't utilized in most games. Even just small things like being able to study the map while still having your character move towards your destination is a nice touch, even if it is a small one. A game like "Affordable Space Adventures" only really works with a second screen and even though it is a simple concept I found that game to be incredibly immersive because of the unique features the WiiU had to offer.

The Switch is great to though, and it has a lot of quality games, and some if the best entries in my favorite series for awhile. I'm glad that the great games from WiiU are getting ported over because now people are actually getting to play them. Unfortunately one of the main uses for the WiiU gamepad was off TV play but since you are still tethered to the console it wasn't as convenient. If only the Switch had the portability it has now, while still having access to a second touch screen while playing on the TV. It would be near perfect.

What if Nintendo did release a Switch light that could also connect to another Switch as a controller, essentially giving you a gamepad with touchscreen capabilities for you Switch, while still acting as a separate console...okay now I'm really getting carried away with my fantasies. But still, a man can dream right?

@gokev13 That's a good example. Super Mario Maker and Maiden of Black Water are also games that make the most of the GamePad. Nintendo Land is a mixed bag but it has some interesting mini games, too. Like you say, it can be extremely useful as an interactive map in Pikmin 3, Xenoblade Chronicles X and the original Breath of the Wild concept, before they watered it down to match the Switch version.

@BlueOcean
Super Mario Maker is unfortunately a game I cannot see working well on the Switch. I'm sure they could make it work with other control options, you would just loose a lot of the ease of building. It's to bad because it is another game that a lot of Switch owners probably haven't played.

Though instead of a port of Mario Maker they should try for a sequel with a ton of new features.

@gokev13 Art Academy: Atelier is another good example, only the GamePad resistive touch screen and a stylus can make it possible.

@BlueOcean
I never played the Art academy games, but I appreciate the assistance the teacher gives in Smash.

@gokev13 I have SSB for Wii U but what do you mean exactly? Probaby I haven't played enough to know. I usually play with the GameCube controller.

@subpopz Yeah, yeah. Whatever you say. I know the Wii U is bad. I'm not blind. But it had some stellar games. Not only that, but it also had local save backups and online FOR FREE. Not to mention it had Virtual Console, one of the best ways to play retro games. And then there's the games you keep begging to have on Switch.

Wii U:
Lots of stellar games
Local save/digital game backups
Free online
Virtual Console

Switch:
Too many ports
Half-baked cloud saves
$30AUD a year for Peer-2-Peer connections
No Virtual Console whatsoever

@BlueOcean
Vincent (I think that's his name) from Art Academy is an assist trophy in Smash Ultimate. He draws detailed pictures over the other fighters, one of them is a cat and it is rather comical watching these drawings bounce around. One of my favorite assist trophies.

@subpopz Personally, I can't imagine paying $80AUD for a 7 year old port just for the sake of portability. Also, I absolutely hate that you think that 13 million people = no one. Not only that, but if you take your Switch out and about, there's at least a 45% chance it'll break from a drop or something. And I can't even save that data unless I have Nintendo's wimpy membership. Still love Nintendo, but it's 2019, and they need to get with the times.

@TheAwesomeBowser
But then I can't take my WiiU out on the go.

@gokev13 Oh you mean a trophy, now I understand. For a moment I thought that you could use the GamePad to assist you in SSB4. Yes, the assist trophies are good fun. The first time I saw Nintendogs I think it was hilarious, after a while they can get too annoying though.

@chtan69 https://mynintendonews.com/2012/11/27/the-wii-u-is-somewhat-portable/

@subpopz Joke's on you, because Nintendo's gonna stop making these after a short while. 😂

@TheAwesomeBowser how is it a cash grab when so many people haven’t played it? The Switch lifetime sales are easily another 10-15 million more than Wii U. Why not grab low hanging fruit? Fills the release gaps. I’m sure it’s a test bed for a Super Mario Maker re-release or new version of it.

I’m thrilled these Wii U games are finding a proper life on the Switch. No, this isn’t my favorite NSMB game, but I’m enjoying this time compared to the Wii U.

@subpopz How many times do I have to do the same comparison?

Wii U:
Lots of stellar games
Local save/digital game backups
Free online
Virtual Console

Switch:
Too many ports
Half-baked cloud saves
$30AUD a year for Peer-2-Peer connections
No Virtual Console whatsoever

@progx "How is it a cash grab when so many people haven’t played it?" Yeah, because 13 million people = nobody.

Whatever. This is a lost cause. Dropping out.

@subpopz Honestly, I find TheAwesomeBowser odd since he was warned three times for making NSO hate threads and he doesn't know why he was warned and his anti-NSO topics were locked. Judging by his posting and attitude, I say he's gonna make a fourth one and it's the final straw that gets him banned.

@subpopz https://mynintendonews.com/2012/11/27/the-wii-u-is-somewhat-portable/
Wii U is not a dust collector.

@Alantor28 Nah. No fourth anti-NSO thread.

@TheAwesomeBowser ...Somehow I doubt it.

@Alantor28 The answer's still no. I stand by my stance!

@subpopz @Cobalt would easily straighten you out. Also, what's so bad about Wii U? Why is portability so important? Why are you comparing a home console to a hybrid? That's like comparing apples to oranges.

@TheAwesomeBowser wow. 13 million people, when only 8 million of those owners bought it are suppose to dictate to the rest of us. Makes perfect sense. Less than 8 million people played it, don’t release it, we’ll make a fraction of the possible 30+ million Switch owners angry.

Of course, you wouldn’t say the same thing to Microsoft about Halo? Sony for God of War III, Uncharted Collection or Last of Us? Why bother when the previous gen systems could play it. Nuts to you if you didn’t have one or save it.

I can see video game companies lining up at the door to hire you...

@subpopz Your right. Comparing the Wii U to the Switch is like iPod vs iPhone. Not even the Touch version.

To the community: don’t waste your time on this guy. He’s butt hurt since the Wii U bombed and we’ve moved on. Apples and oranges are portable... the Wii U has to stay home.

@progx Well, at least Sony and Microsoft released those as budget titles, Nintendo releases these with barely any changes for $60USD/$80AUD/$100NZD. I feel really sorry for those in New Zealand, having to pay $100 for a port.

@subpopz I'm not gonna do anything now, you made your comment too long. Soz. 🤷‍♂️

@TheAwesomeBowser No. Microsoft charged full price for the Master Chief Collection, the game was broken and colossal mess for $60. When Sony brought over God of War III to the PS4, they charged full price and the the Uncharted Collection was the same too. They’re cheaper now, but when they were released initially they were full price. Given the popularity of the Switch, Nintendo will probably move these ports over to a “Switch Selects” branding in the future and charge $19.99 for them. You can wait until then.

@subpopz Have a ball my friend

@progx Are you trying to defend these ports? Get outta here.

@TheAwesomeBowser Um... Didn't you say you want a Switch port of Super Mario Maker in another article or thread? You're against Switch ports of Wii U games, but you literally said you want a Switch port of Super Mario Maker. So that makes your argument moot.

@TheAwesomeBowser What am I defending? The customer has already spoken with their wallets and shows in the sales.

@Alantor28 I meant a sequel. That really went over your head, didn't it?

@progx Noone's defending anything, I was just tired when I wrote that. Soz.

@TheAwesomeBowser ...I definitely heard you saying you want a Switch port of Super Mario Maker.

@Alantor28 Nope, a sequel. I hate ports.

@TheAwesomeBowser https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2019/01/new_super_mario_bros_u_deluxe_launch_sales_were_actually_56_percent_higher_than_on_wii_u_not_24_8_percent

(quote) I'd buy a Switch version of Mario Maker if it weren't for the awful Online 'service'.(quote)

Yeah, don't bother trying to lie, buddy. You literly said you would love a Switch version of Super Mario Maker, which means a port.

@Alantor28 'Version' does not have the same meaning as 'port'. And even if it was a sequel, I'd probably skip it because of the awful Online, which you'd likely need for Course World.

To the community: Don't waste your time begging for ports. It'll just make you look bad.

@TheAwesomeBowser How about you let people enjoy what they like instead of trying to force them to listen to your opinion?