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@shaneoh Profitable, yes, by the way the first Soul Hackers sold below 100k copies, and that might be borderline profitable, too, but profitable != good.

@UltimateOtaku91 My best guess would simply be that Switch version needs more time, it always takes more work to get a game to run well on it.

@ShadowofTwilight22 Obviously, even if I mage an absolutely garbage game on Unity in 5 minutes someone is going to buy it, so literal 0 sales are not possible, but 500k or lower is not good by any stretch. Of course some Playstation players like JRPGs, but it's a rather niche group. It used to be bigger in the PS2 up to Vita days, but nowadays Sony themselves are focusing too much on Western AAA games.

@ShadowofTwilight22 Don't get me wrong, I still believe it will sell 0 copies. By which I mean well below a million across all platforms. This type of game sells best on Switch because the userbase doesn't expect top notch graphics to get hyped for something.

@ShadowofTwilight22 It doesn't need to sell lots of copies to add value to their platform, also as it was pointed out, it is not a Sony exclusive.

@UltimateOtaku91 Good point, I didn't notice that it's also on XBox. Persona 5 is one of the best JRPGs of all time, though, those are very modest sales given how good it is and how much it has been promoted by Sega, Sony & word of mouth. Wasn't it even a GOTY contender? Soul Hackers won't sell anywhere near that much despite being a multiplatform. The Switch would have been an easy homerun. Maybe they just need more time to port it. Just looking at the game, it doesn't look very detailed or anything, it should be portable.

@UglyCasanova Nobody is getting duped, except those paying for Ultimate Team of course, it's the best football game there is, so of course people are going to buy it, regardless of how marginal the differences are from last year's. The same goes for Football Manager every year.

Absolutely terrible, I'm sure they will change it.

It is going to sell zero copies on PS5, people buying PS5 are expecting top of the line graphics, not something that looks marginally better than Tokyo Mirage Sessions. I'm guessing this is a Sony funded project, at least partially for limited exclusivity, otherwise it makes no sense to not bring it to Switch as the primary development platform.

This is just classic sob stuff employed by lawyers to lessen the penalty. Living in modesty doesn't mean he doesn't make a lot of money from his criminal activities.

@noobish_hat Clueless or tasteless? You be the judge, fellow reader.

@ThomasBW84 No, it just says that Wii U had no games.

@Half-ShellHero This is honestly the first time I've heard anyone have issues with the remaster. It is a far better experience than the original, which was a blurry brown mess. I think it's just you to be honest.

@Scapetti I don't know but it's pretty irrelevant, newer games are usually easier to work on, and they have done N64 stuff so GameCube would be no problem.

@OnlyItsMeReid There isn't anything in specific that needs more work near release, it completely depends on the game and their internal (and sometimes also external) feedback. This involves all disciplines. Basically no game is ever completely perfect, so there is always work to do, it's just that at some point you have to say "ok this is good enough" and ship it.

@Half-ShellHero What do you mean? TP HD was not a bad remaster, was it?

@OnlyItsMeReid No. Art is needed during all stages of development.

@Spider-Kev The "dead" version of MP4 would likely be a completely different and worse version of the game, hence why it was scrapped. It would still take several years of work to be completed, so we are never going to see it.

@Half-ShellHero What makes you think that Nightdive have a better track record than Grezzo? That's a laughable take. Nightdive has never worked on a game as great and important as Ocarina of Time, they have only worked on B or C tier IPs, and they have mainly worked on first person shooters, that are far easier to develop/remaster.

Don't get me wrong, I would welcome them to work on remastering some of Nintendo's back catalog, but they sincerely haven't done anything to write home about yet. Nintendo games would require a lot more work than anything they've worked on so far.

Also TP HD was done by Tantalus.

@BanjoPickles I'm sure some of the games on your list will receive a remaster. I mean, Famicom Detective Club did, why wouldn't Eternal Darkness? It's just a matter of availability and priorities, there are not enough developers in the entire world to remaster everything while also working on new games.

Nintendo simply doesn't trust any developer with their IP. People think it's easy and simple to give them access to it, but there are many reasons why they might not want to cooperate, and not all of them are down to just quality. Confidentiality is also a massive factor. For Eternal Darkness which has been pitched here, it's possible that Nintendo has plans of their own.

It's New Style Boutique, not New Fashion Boutique.

@Yorumi Those games have had content "cut" in order to release in time. This happens with every single game ever, whether they get updated or not. Some content never makes it to release. They are still complete games without said content. I played Mario Tennis Aces without any updates and it was good enough. Even better with updates, but it's totally fine without.

Also, you are the one that is moving the goalposts, actually, not me. I never said that all the content is on the cart. I said the games are perfectly playable without any updates. There is a difference between the two. Do you need all the content that has ever released for a game to be fully playable? No you don't. If that was the case, then Mario Kart 8 on Wii U would be considered unplayable because it doesn't have the Switch content or the DLC, but the base game itself is perfectly fine.

@Specter_of-the_OLED Says someone that has never worked on a video game and thinks companies only hire people when a project begins or something. You have no idea what you are talking about.

@ModdedInkling It does very much feel like a tutorial, it's the reason why I can't bring myself to replay that damn game. The rest of the game isn't that bad, but the intro is just killing all the momentum.

@Yorumi Um, no, I'm simply saying that Nintendo is the only company that releases proper physical copies. That's a fact, whether you like it or not. Yes, it sucks that not all the content is on the cart for some sports titles mainly, but the alternative would be for those games to never be updated, which is worse.

@Jackuu As mentioned, it's the only Nintendo first party IP game that needs a day 1 patch. It is pretty commendable they we had to wait 5 years to get a mandatory day 1 patch. Clearly Nintendo goes out of their way to ensure that if you buy a cartridge, you have a fully playable game in that data, without download required. This Pokémon game is the sole exception and Arceus also did not require a download. Nintendo is THE ONLY platform holder in the entire industry commited to this. And I'm certainly hoping it will remain this way for the eventual Switch 2.

@Yorumi That's extra content that was not planned for launch though, you can still play all the content that was at launch without an update. Compare this to getting a game disk for Halo on Xbox which basically only has the entitlement but the game you pretty much have to entirely download on your hard disk to even be able to launch it. The latter is no different to purchasing a digital copy.

@Jackuu I'm talking about first party Nintendo games. Other than the gen 4 remakes, which to be fair are made by a 3rd party that had never made a Nintendo game before, I don't think there's a single Nintendo game that requires a patch to experience all the content available. There are some games that have added content with patches or some fixes here and there, but nothing major. Then you've got Link's Awakening which I WISH they would update to iron out the framerate but nope, not a single patch.

@Greatluigi No, he said that he won't be working on a new one. It could still happen, but he wouldn't be involved.

@Ravenmaster They probably will... But first they have to milk the original version a little bit more. I mean, OoT 3D and MM 3D with a completely reworked UI and some visual upgrades would basically be perfect for the Switch. I would be surprised if it doesn't happen eventually. Maybe towards the end of Switch's life when the schedule will be less packed to fill some first party content gaps. If that's even a thing with the Switch.

@ModdedInkling You're saying it as if an increased rating is some sort of achievement, lol. Twilight Princess should be M rated, it takes a real man to put up with that awful 3 hour tutorial.

@Dingelhopper I think we should allow the sales to speak about whether this is acceptable or not. The market itself will reject this if people don't like it. If people buy it.... Then obviously it isn't a big deal for most.

However, I have to say, in UK you can get this for £16. £16 for 48 tracks is a bit of a steal even if they are literal ports from the N64 and GameCube games, let alone the more recent reworked mobile versions.

@AlexHarford This is not exclusive to Mario Kart. Just looking at the latest Horizon game, the environments are just so damn busy. It's impressive in detail but I just can't keep track of anything on the screen because there's details in every single nook and cranny. I much prefer a more stylized approach. To be fair, MK8 is nowhere near this detailed of course, but I also prefer the simplicity of MK64.

@noobish_hat
>You
>Good taste in videogames
Pick one and only one.

@Yorumi Can you please elaborate? I don't think I've played a single Nintendo game that had a mandatory day 1 patch. On the other hand, on Sony and Microsoft consoles, many games are literally unplayable (not using the meme, but actually literally) out of the box without a day 1 patch.

Anyways, personally I buy 99% physical on Switch. I own very few digital games, just to use my Gold points mostly, plus a couple that I really wanted but physical were Limited Run (no interest in those).

@jsty3105 Yup, you hit the nail on the head. Nintendo simply didn't have a long game plan with their infrastructure, which is a bummer to be sure, but nothing to be mad about. Anyone that had used these services should have known this beforehand, I mean, the Wii purchases did not automatically transfer to Wii U. That says it all. Plus, people need to realize all this content is Nintendo's, they can sell it or not sell it whenever they see fit. There are thousands of games available to play in the meanwhile, so just give it some time and they will be on NSO eventually, which is a longer term plan and not going anywhere after Switch.

@Deady I don't think there's anything to worry about when it comes to "development hell" for this project. If it was the same company working on the game for 6 years and we had heard absolutely nothing about it, I would understand some concern, but Retro have been working on this only for 3 years now, that is not a long time for a high budget game.

@Yorumi Uh, yeah, you absolutely own Nintendo's physical games, what are you on about? You just have to understand what owning a game means, i.e. you own the game as a product, not the individual data assets within, those are copyrighted material. Likewise, not allowed to rip and distribute copies of that data. Neither of these mean not owning it.

Patching is a given these days, due to the much higher complexity of modern games, it's pretty much inevitable that some things will escape testing. But Nintendo does a MUCH better job than any other developer out there to have a good version of the game on the cart. I can't remember if a single Nintendo game where I had to download a patch to make it playable. I've only heard about Diamond/Pearl basically requiring a day 1 patch, but I don't own those remakes. Heck, on some games they never even released a patch whatsoever. Just these past few days, I played Pokémon Legends Arceus from start to finish without a single patch.

I don't like the ergonomics of if, it looks very uncomfortable. Not that the regular Switch is very comfortable to hold for hours on end, but Steam Deck is heavier and the button layout is not ideal. I'll stick to my laptop and wait for a revision.

I never liked Miis too much, if I'm honest and I don't mind if they are on the way out. The issue with them, other than being too tied with the Wii brand, is that they are inherently quite lacking in detail and they simply don't fit the more modern aesthetic of current Nintendo titles.

I ended up spending most of my day playing Earthbound on NSO. What a phenomenal game, even 25 years later it could easily be released today and it would be equally well received, if not better, because games are just too cookie cutter these days and Earthbound is something really special and different.

I have literally never heard of Battle Cats POP! Wtf even is it? Anyway, what surprised me in this list is how buried New Super Mario Bros 2 is. It's a fun game, I got it for a tenner last year, but it clearly shows the decline in interest for 2D Mario, especially compared to the sales of 3D Land.

I don't think the art in this game is anything to write home about if I'm honest, it's rather average quality as far as pixel art games go. I don't know, I saw Alex play it on YouTube and it didn't seem that interesting to me. I'll give it a pass.

It's a fun game actually, played it for a few hours on PC.

Playing Tingle's Freshly Picked Rosy Rupeeland on my 3DS, I managed to buy a pristine copy for £50 and I'm quite happy about that. It's a great and extremely unique game and one that Nintendo absolutely won't ever rerelease, so grab it before it's worth thousands.

@Clammy Right, like Xenoblade Chronicles, such a terrible remaster. They only changed literally everything.

I think I'm gonna wait for a "trilogy" on a cart.

@CANOEberry The only Harvest Moon games you should absolutely avoid are the ones that came out after A New Beginning on 3DS, as well as everything on Switch (and henceforth). A New Beginning is a great one though, I would highly recommend it.