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@Ralizah Either way, if it's voter fraud or not, we are always faced with the same "A or B" choice. The appearance of having the freedom of choice by voting in America; however, limited by two presidential nominees I never want to vote for. Most people make a choice of voting for the lesser of two evils. I, for one, can't do that and it's all rigged to some extent and really boils down to the electoral college. Remember voter fraud in Florida, when it was between Al Gore and Bush. Bush still remained with his victory (though there was proven fraud in Florida). I could care less about either Creepy Joe or narcissistic Trump, who will do whatever it takes to win (even denying COVID is real). Most likely, he never had it and it's a way to deceive his followers to get vaccinated as it's on record a lot of vaccinations have mercury or other harmful things in it. All politics are smoke and mirrors and a scheme to just get in to power. When have we actually had a halfway decent president. Right now, we will have a new one in 2021 that is so senile that he forgets who he is and where he is on some of his campaigns. Yeah, I really want that, spear heading our country next year. Can't wait to hear another one of his crazy story about "corn pops" and how he loves kids on his lap. He said that on one of his campaigns I had watched on You tube and he had a nasty pedophilia look in his smile and eyes.

Reading political comments always cracks me up, I've noticed people say "Well at least we're in a democracy and not a dictatorship." So many uneducated people about what a true democracy even is. Do you even now what a democracy is. I will tell you. A democracy is when you can be out voted by majority and have your rights or other things taken away because majority rules in a democratic society. When's the last time, at least, in a America, where you heard "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the democracy for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all" but rather this is what we say in America "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." We're a republic not a democracy, at least in America is how it's supposed to be.

Grew up on Nintendo, I have had every main console system except WII (but I did get two WII U's and still have them). Never had a desire for Switch for whatever reason. Anyway, reading this article, I can't believe what I'm seeing from some people okay to throw more money at the "Pro" version of Switch if it ever comes out in hopes this will not be a future issue on a future system. Nintendo's dismissal of their problem will never matter to them as long as people are willing to still purchase the product that "drifts" and has drifted me away from a company I had once thought was different from the rest. I think WII U is as far as I will go with this company unless they change direction.

Having this option is great as some people prefer Japanese voice acting but for me it all depends on what it is. For example I'm not as into Japanese anime like my wife but if something is amazing doesn't matter what language its in or if its western or Japanese. Sometimes it's better with english voice actors and sometimes it is not. I typically prefer to listen to something in the region it was created in to capture the creators vision but doesn't always end up being the case. Voice acting can make a big difference and I remember my wife bugging me to watch Spirited Away and I finally caved in. IT was the english voice acting and it was so terrible I had her turn if off in two minutes. A few hours later she talked me into listening to it in Japanese with English subtitles and I absolutely loved the movie. Last example robotech and I do understand its three separate anime's but nevertheless I couldn't get into the original macross or the the other two southern calvery and i forgot what the other is called. The english version had great humor and loved the voices of the Zentradi it made them sound as big as they are. Avatar the last air bender even though it has an anime feel to it and heavily inspired by Miyazaki. I couldn't imagine seeing it in Japanese as the English voice acting was fantastic. With all that being said I would try out both for about 5 minutes in English and Japanese and see which one resonates with me more.

@Gatorboi352 - I agree about it would be great if Nintendo would have a system that ran on par with competition from 4 years ago such as the PS4. I am no graphic junky or make power of something the most important thing for me. Why would I own which I do a Wii - U and then basically downgrade on certain things except for graphics and power which is a modest improvement for upgrading to a Switch. I would lose backward compatibility to play Wii, Wii U and all my virtual downloads. No netflix, hulu, and not sure if they still don't have a browser. A battery you cannot replace yourself. The cost of the thing 299.99 and some peripheral's like extra joycon's and pro controllers and it could cost you over 400.00 dollars. To me When I upgrade I don't like to lose key features I enjoy for a modest graphical improvement and Switch only looks slightly better when they were showing mario kart 8 improvements. That would be like having a brand new computer and its for instance top of the line and three years later the only improvement is slightly better graphic card. Why would I want to buy another one so similar except for slightly improved graphics. This is how I feel about the Switch and why I will not upgrade to Switch and besides I don't care about its portability and as a home console its weak and only runs slightly better than Wii - U

@waveboy - your not alone with your sentiment. I lost all excitement for Switch even before it was named that and was NX. With each rumor I would get less and less excited. Anyway I won't post all my reasons why I dislike the Switch but it made me appreciate my Wii - U more and I am skipping out on the Switch all together and bought a second Wii - U in case the first one fails. That is the only positive thing to me about the Switch is it made me appreciate the Wii - U more and besides I only play 2 to 4 hours a week of games anyway its not my entire life. I have enough Wii, Wii U and e-shop games to last me at least 10 or so more years unless of course my Wii - U dies. I have yet to get excited about any Switch games. I agree Mario Odyssey I would further say looks also odd and out of place and would rather just re-play Super mario Galaxy one and two over again.

@Luffymcduck - Glad to see someone else commenting on this. I was just going to post of why I love the idea of what looks like a swarm of wasps or hornets that go in front of the first player in sonic and all stars transformed because at least if you have good skills you can try to dodge or crash into a side of a wall to get a way. In Mario kart 8 you have to at least have the horn to knock the blue shell away but if you don't have one or if someone uses a lightning bolt it won't matter anyway. To be completely honest I have only played MK8 maybe 10 or 15 times total since the day it was released and that counts for both DLC packs as well. All though its fun I felt the creativity of the tracks, items, and overall was too samey and only added anti gravity. I still think Sonic all stars even though graphically isn't as nice as MK8 still has better overall presentation with the dynamic tracks and transforming to boats and planes. A better skill to luck ratio and I love the fact you can do stunts to avoid the homing weapons when it locks on you. This is why I've sunk probably over 300 hours into Sonic since I bought it around 4 years ago and only maybe around 5 or 6 hours into MK8 since the day it released a little over 3 years ago.

@NoxAeturnus No one denies that Zelda was an amazing game but some people buy certain consoles just for one amazing exclusive alone so I only commented on that as someone who doesn't own a switch why announcing a title doesn't excite me. This is the only game for me that would make a switch worth owning as I personally so far am not interested in the Switch at all and have all the games I want for now on the Wii U. If this ended up being like the last situation and constantly delayed up until the point of the next console some people may get disappointed and feel burned. I was only speaking for myself that I'm not hyped off an announced name I know nothing about more that the title of Metroid Prime 4 that is not being made by Retro and is no cause for me to run out and by a Switch when this may get delayed up until the point it releases on Switch and their next console simultaneously.

hasn't anyone learned yet to just wait and not get hyped up or could get majorly burned and disappointed. Maybe I'm wrong but Zelda had footage in sometime around 2012 that looked more like Twilight princess and then silent for a few years and then showed footage in 2014 and looked vastly different and older video was said to be a tech demo. Also supposed to release in either 2014 or 2015 and then finally gets released for both Switch and Wii U at the end of Wii U's life and the beginning of Switch as a launch title. Same thing could happen with this it could release at end of Switch life and release alongside the next console. Also we have no details either way and the fact that Retro isn't working on it which they did an amazing job on the first three. A little hard to get any type of hype for me anyway off of just an announcement off an announced name alone until further notice I will just wait and see

I agree with @SLIGEACH_EIRE up to the point of eventually getting a switch one day. The cost of the hardware with all the accessories is way to expensive and when running side by side comparisons of the Switch to Wii -u is only slightly improved. I also do not care about portability and would rather have a dedicated portable system and not a hybrid such as a original game boy, game boy color, GBA , etc. Sure as a portable Switch is powerful but not as a home console and I prefer a home console. As a Wii - U owner I have no reason to move to Switch it has no backwards compatibility and you cannot even change your own battery and have to ship to Nintendo to have it replaced. As one that had a battery issue with Wii - U i would rather buy my own battery and replace myself much cheaper and also your system could get lost or damaged shipping it. Graphics although I don't care they look almost the same to me to be honest so why spend more money on something that looks more or less the same. I honestly was so disappointed with the Switch I mean this is the most disappointed in a system reveal I have ever been with Nintendo that I immediately bought another Wii - U as a back up as this may be my last nintendo console. Also lacking is VC and apps such as netflix and hulu. Most new games have been Wii u ports that I already have and new games like Splatoon 2 or Arms that I don't care about. Even Mario Odyssey looks weird and out of place. I don't mind making mario different like Mario Galaxy and Mario 64 but everything to me clicked and something about Odyssey looks off to me. As one that never got around to getting a Wii and bought a Wii - U instead I feel that with the Wii - U i will always have access to a bigger library. I only game about 2 - 4 hours a week so I have enough games in my backlog to last a lifetime and can always buy or download if ever need to. I feel Switch would be taking a step backwards to me.

Almost forgot the current switch owners that justify having no browser, Netflix, hulu, and other apps that its slow anyways and lags on a home console. I would say that maybe its your modem or router that is slow. even though I'm not an online gamer I have a Night Hawk router that people typically get for online gaming. I stream with no lag whatsoever so to me I would be stripping myself of yet more features I enjoy and like I said before Switch to me would be going two steps backwards and honestly since the full unveil of Switch it made my wife and I love and appreciate the Wii - U even more.

Not really sure quite honestly which direction it will go. Personally I hope that all don't go down the road of voice acting and Open world. I haven't yet played BOTW it is still sitting on the shelf for my Wii - U in shrink wrap and I have no idea when I will get around to it as I only game on average 2 - 4 hours a week and some I don't game at all. I personally like how they try different things with this series and that's what I love about it. Let's be honest here This game was first and foremost designed for Wii - U and I believe Skyward Sword came out in 2011. In perspective that means it took around 6 years for BOTW to finally come out and this entry maybe the only Legend of Zelda Switch may see in its lifetime. If Switch gets a new entry I would be surprised.

@cra1g0s - Finally someone on here that makes sense to me. Everything you basically said in regards to Wii - U and Switch is how I have felt as well. This is coming from a strictly Nintendo only fan as well. I see no incentive at all if you own a Wii - U to move on to Switch except for portability is the reason or excuse most Wii - U owners use or justify. The Switch to me when you run side by comparisons lets say MK8 for example I seriously cannot really tell which is Switch or Wii - U version as they look too similar. I'm sure there is a modest improvement in performance but lets be real not enough to justify new hardware, peripherals, and accessories that could run you about 500 to 600 dollars yet without a game. Also with the Switch you can't even take out and replace the battery yourself and have to pay shipping both ways and then buy a new battery which is absurd to me. No backward compatibility and I missed out on the Wii at the time so when I bought I WII - U it had value to me as I was getting two consoles in one. Also no talk of upgrade fee's to basically move over your digital downloads for a fee. Why would any WII - U owner have a reason to move over to the Switch and to be quite honest I have no intention at this point of ever getting one. I don't care about portability and would rather have new games and not games I can currently play on my Wii - U. Every game I'm interested I can practically play on my Wii - U and the only thing I will miss is Mario odyssey and to be quite honest I don't care. I have enough Mario games to last a lifetime. Also no streaming Apps like Netflix, Hulu, or Amazon. Honestly right now Switch seems like a downgrade if your a Wii - U owner in my honest opinion. Switch seems to be marketed to all but Wii - U owners.

@teamshortcut I'm a Wii U owner and I disagree with you. I feel for a Wii - U owner you are making two steps backwards if you get a switch. Lets see most first party games are Wii - U ports that I already own on Wii - U or can buy for Wii - U if I really want. MK8 deluxe the only thing really different is a proper battle mode that should have been done right the first time. splatoon if I ever wanted to get that game I could just buy it for Wii - U. Performance and graphic wise the Switch runs only modestly better but not enough to justify a pricey new piece of hardware and by the time you buy it with peripherals and accessories you could easily spend 500 to 600 dollars on a machine that runs only slightly better to me that is a waste of money and I will happily stick with my Wii - U. Switch not backwards compatible which is a big deal to me. I never got around to getting a Wii, I always wanted one but just didn't get one so when I bought a Wii - U it was like getting two consoles in one. Streaming is a big deal to me like Netflix , Hulu, and even a web browser and I never had lag or issues like others try to say to defend why its not included with the switch. I have a night hawk router which was top of the line two years ago and used for online gaming. Switch charging for online gaming and you can still play for free on Wii - u. Wii - U never had mainstream problems like disconnecting left joy - cons and the pixels of death. Not saying everyone has had that issue but the fact that it does happen to some when for Wii - u never had mainstream reported issues. You can't even replace your own battery and have to ship it to Nintendo to pay both ways shipping and then still buy the battery. I had battery issues on my Wii - u and bought a new battery and replaced myself. Sure Switch is portable is the excuse I hear when you give comparisons between Wii - U and switch but I don't care about portability. I also don't care about Wii - U ports and last gen ports. The only new first party experience is Mario Odyssey. I personally think Nintendo marketed this to everyone but Wii - U owners and didn't give us a reason to bother upgrading. I can play whatever I want and interested in still on Wii - u.

@shani - Same here except I haven't bothered trying the Switch out for myself. The first Nintendo console ever to make me feel empty and not interested. I remember when it was first code named 'NX' I was so excited for it and couldn't wait to hear more information about it. The more information that got leaked the less interested I became but because I grew up on Nintendo I was willing to at least watch the unveil. The first unveil with the corny music and very short showing of what looked like hipsters that have no interest in gaming showing off a mere i believe it was around two minutes or so. I was left with what the heck is this crap. Then the final unveil and trailer showed off Mario odyssey, breath of the wild and a few others. I was left with a sour taste and said to myself why not just get Zelda Breath of the Wild for Wii - u instead. Switch not backwards compatible and you can't even change out the battery when it dies but you have to ship to Nintendo to replace it. Games that run the same practically as Wii - U. When they do side by comparisons they look almost the same and only run a tad better. Hardly able to justify spending over 500 to 600 dollars for new hardware and accessories and peripherals and still no game. Furthermore like @MSVT was basically saying about makes me wonder if they will get a Console exclusive Zelda. I mean it only took Nintendo around six years for this Wii - U port. Wasn't breath of the wild originally supposed to be released in 2014 on the Wii - U. I would much rather they never made the Switch and just kept making games for the Wii - U until there ready to make a good console. This looks rushed and right now you have less functionality on Switch than you do on Wii - U. Why in the world would you upgrade if you own a Wii U just to go backwards. The only thing some will justify is the portability. For people like me who spent enough money on the Wii - U and don't care about portability do not want to pay all this money just to buy the same games again to play portable.

Not impressed in the least. Bought BOTW for the Wii - U and with all the games I have yet to play I still have another 5 or 6 years or so with my current console which is Wii - U. Most first party games are mainly Wii - U ports that I already own or if I wanted I could just get on Wii - U. Side by comparisons to me between Switch and Wii U are not enough to me to justify new hardware, peripherals and accessories four years after buying all that with the Wii -U. No way am I getting a Switch.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE I agreed with you all the way up until the end of eventually getting the switch for games like Mario Odyssey and Xenoblade 2. I still love my WII - U and also feel like because of their mistakes as a Wii - U owner and how sad is that when Nintendo basically gave up on this console for the last couple of years and you had more support from Indie developers such as Yacht Club. Too me if you can't even answer simple questions and are too secretive it means you have something to hide. Personally I still feel when the hype settles over the next six months the Switch will sell somewhere between Wii - U and Game cube numbers in its lifetime. Too me principle trumps games. Even if they ever had a new Metroid or FZero I will pass on this generation when most first party games have been Wii - U ports. Like you stated before why buy a new hardware and accessories, peripherals in such a short space of four years because of their mistakes. To top it off if you did that run around 500 to 600 dollars and still no games. I get why someone that doesn't have a Wii - U could be excited for this. Like you I'm a Wii - U owner and I do not feel like this is an upgrade at all and quite honestly those side by comparisons I don't see much of a difference. Hopefully their next console will be better than this and I will check out the next unveil in 4 or 5 years and until then continue to enjoy my Wii - U. I only game about 2 - 6 hours a week anyway so I have enough Wii - u games to last me at least the next 5 to 6 years before i go through everything.

@BorninNorway81 - Well before I researched the issue I never have my WII - U crash constantly on the same spot. For example i remember when i used to play sonic and all stars racing transformed sometimes all of a sudden a crash but in different spots from time to time. No other crashes since Teslagrad and Its always the same spot at the final boss. After three times in a row I googled it. So many others on the Wii - U said the same thing at the last boss after you hit him once and he traps you in a bubble and your supposed to time it just right so that weapon he uses breaks the bubble but if you mess up after that it does a hard crash. It was after the third crash I looked into it and apparently since I just picked it up again in early 2017 and didn't play it from september 2014 till around early 2017. When I researched it others said in sometime 2015 there was an update which made sense because after playing it for the first time early this year since 2014 there was an update the first time I launched it. Now its been a total of five times it crashes on the same spot and enough research leads me to believe its the game and not my WII - U. No other games I play does this except TeslaGrad which after the fifth time I gave up even bothering to try to beat the final boss anymore. Don't give me wrong this is an amazing game it's just unfortunate my system crashes on the final boss.

Would have purchased it but I played TeslaGrad off and on. I finally get to the last boss and when you fight him and if you hit him once and then he looks like he traps you in a bubble if I die too many times the Wii - U crashes and at first I didn't know about this bug until I googled online and if this game has bugs as well then forget it. Nothing like finally getting to the last boss on a hard game you played a few hours here and there off and on for a couple of years and then finally get to the last boss just to have it crash. I tried to play through it but hey the last boss was tough and it crashed my system about 5 times and since then I haven't had the desire to play it again. I really like their games but I have to be sure this one does not cause the same thing.

To those who commented on here that Web browsers suck anyway on home consoles so who cares. Well maybe its your setup do you have a slow router or modem. I have a NetGear NightHawk router that was top of the line two years ago not sure about today. Anyway I use the Web browser all the time on Wii - U and have no issues whatsoever or slow downs at all. Streaming netflix or Hulu with no lag. Furthermore I know this is the digital age but some of use still do not have smartphones or Iphones to all those that say everyone has it already. Stop speaking for everyone maybe some people can only afford one device and instead of upgrading to a new phone capable of streaming they considered a Switch to be their all in one device but since it can't do these things that is a potential loss in sale. Reggie I never believe anything he says till it happens. We all remember when he fried someone in the audience that said oh great not another mario Game give us Mother 3 reggie. We ended up getting mother 1 and mother 2 on the Wii - U. So with Nintendo you just never know they tend to do whatever they want when they want.

@MSVT You and me both I don't know why I love my Wii - U so much and I have more games on this console than any other I have ever owned. I only have time to invest 2 - 6 hours a week on average to play games so I literally have enough games to last me many years if other consoles like the Switch aren't to my liking. Just like you I'm skipping Switch all together mainly because I invested way too much money on Wii - U and no way am I paying over 500 to 600 dollars by the time you get a new console and all the peripherals for a system that runs slightly better than what I currently have and could run any switch game I have seen with side by side comparisons. Sure it runs a little smoother on Switch but not enough of an upgrade to me to justify the price. In all honesty if i got a Switch I feel I would be doing one step forward and about 3 or steps backwards. Things I care about Switch doesn't have. Not backwards compatible. No Streaming Apps like Browser, Netflix and Hulu. Most people said they had browser issues and its slow well maybe your modem or router is slow then I have a NightHawk router used for online gaming although I don't game online It is very fast and I had no issues. A battery that lasts 2.5 hours to 3 hours when Mine for the Wii - U gives me 8 hours. I bought the upgraded battery. Also when your battery dies you have to ship it to nintendo and pay both ways and buy the new battery talk about expensive and inconvenient. Repackaged Wii - U ports that I mainly own and even if some new content no way would I pay full price allover again when I already own them. Only brand new first party game is Mario odyssey but honestly that could have ran on Wii - u. I have many more reasons but like you the Switch just doesn't appeal to me at all and I will happily stick with Wii - U. As a matter of fact I was so turned off by no pack in game and the nerve of making crap like 1 -2 switch and charging full price for that when I saw that trailer of milking cows and simulating counting balls. It encouraged me to get one more Wii - U in case my main one fails as a back up system because without any doubt I'm skipping Switch and will check out the next unveil. I just hope they keep at least giving us E-shop games beyond march and I will be happy and content because I still have a ton of Wii U and Wii games as well as e-shop games I have yet to play. I don't play all the time so a game takes me awhile to play or beat.

@Joey302 I didn't mean in the beginning because Switch is just starting and their is a bigger Wii - U base. I meant after the Switch console has been around for awhile at least a couple of years or so and it gets out sold by the Wii - U version of Breath of the Wild which was held back because of the switch and barely had any advertisement at all. Even the Wii - U e shop when a game is usually a big title will have it listed and its price and when available but this game didn't even show up until march 3 , 2017 in the wii - u eshop which is odd for such a big title. I meant the slap in the face to nintendo because they held back any advertisement even in the eshop for the wii - u version and i would find it funny if in the life of the switch the Wii - U version outsells it. I am a Wii - U owner that has no desire or reason to go to switch.

@Gatorboi352. I agree with you on that about trying so hard to compare purchases of both version to justify a 300 dollar machine. Personally the differences aren't enough for me and I'm more than happy to stick with the Wii - U version of Breath of the Wild and skip on the switch all together. I feel that the Switch is waste of money and nothing but ports of Wii - U titles when it comes to first party and people can argue and say well what about Mario odyssey. That is the only Mario game I have ever not been interested in and think that the setting and the backgrounds look odd, weird and out of place. I don't mind mixing it up like Mario Galaxy but Odyssey just looks off putting to me. No reason to get a Nintendo Switch when most first party games you can play just fine on the Wii - U and you will save around 500 - 600 dollars by not buying new hardware and all the peripherals and yet your still without a game. All the side by comparisons I've seen there is a slight improvement on Switch but no reason to buy the same game again and again for such minimal differences what a waste of money. Amazon sold completely out on Wii - U breath of the wild only private sellers selling it on there but the Switch version at least the standard version is available from amazon. Wouldn't it be funny and a slap in the face to Nintendo if the Wii - U version out sold the Switch version of Breath of the Wild.

I skipped out on the WII. I always meant to get one but I wasn't really gaming at the time and had no consoles. I was going to pick one up in April of 2013 but then the WII - U was out so i wanted that so I could have two consoles in one. I didn't realize that about the time frame in price but either way WII sports so much more you can do and more depth to the game. I just don't see casuals interested in switch for 1-2 switch at least i don't know any. Everyone I know thinks its a joke and doesn't want to pay that much to invest in simulating milking cows or counting balls. Also quick draw pointing your joy con at one another to see who draws the quickest this isn't going to appeal to casuals the way wii sports did or even the balance board with WII fit. At least those had something that appealed to the casuals and not this even though its trying to market to them. Everyone I know laughs and says heck no I wouldn't buy it.

@xcwarrior I did reference nintendo land in my comment about it being much better and free. But the cost factor of switch and peripherals and 1-2 switch would run a casual near 500 dollars and i just don't see a mass market for it for the casuals and i was talking about how their trying to market to the casuals and the Wii being successful because it was 199.99 and then dropped to 99.99 and came with wii sports.

@switch81tch Very good point on your shovel knight comparison about quality for your money and other posters not liking that cost was a factor in the review and even go as far as say I have lost respect for this reviewer or something along to that effect. Well I agree that cost is a factor when you have a wonderful gem like shovel night which only cost me around 10 dollars on sale and since then they gave free DLC and I believe next month were getting Spector Knight DLC for WII u for free. So HMMMMMMMM 10 dollars for shovel knight the game that has more content and substance or a lackluster game like 1-2 switch where you get to simulate milking cows and count balls for 50.00. I would say that in this situation price is a factor in the review and to all those that disagree aren't all reviews subjective anyway all reviewers are somewhat biased anyway and tend to have certain personal tastes or styles that suit them more anyway. Most reviewers from reviews I have read state something along the lines of minus one point for graphics not up to par or something like minus a point for music could have been a lot better so why not be able to add or take away points because of making a point about something costing to much for what it is.

@xcwarrior good point on that one. What a contradiction when you release garbage like 1-2 Switch and charge 50.00 dollars for it. At least Nintendo land was a much better game and free. What happened to the Quality assurance team on 1-2 switch were they asleep on this or what? also in previous articles I too agree that 1-2 switch looks like a laugh for a minute or two but come on not at 50 dollars. I mean wow I get to simulate milking a cow and woo hoo I aimed my joy con at you quicker on quick draw. The casual audience there trying to sell that too are not going to drop 299.99 on a system and then 70 dollars or so for a pair of more joy cons and then drop 50.00 on 1-2 switch. I just don't see this happening with the masses. Wii grabbing the casuals well the Wii was 199.99 and then dropped to 99.99 and I believe it came with wii sports as a pack in as well and much more too do and doesn't get boring after a minute or two of laughter then sit on the shelf collecting dust as 1-2 switch would.

Not surprised at all but I still think the score is a little high for what it is. More like a 3 or 4 in my opinion just judging from the trailers and from what I've seen it looks only good for a quick 5 minute laugh and then move on. Hardly worth 59.99 to simulate milking a cow or wow I aimed my joy-con at you quicker kind of thing and like I previously said good for a quick laugh and then on the shelf collecting dust. I understand the argument on both sides of should have been a free pack in game or charged less somewhere around 29.99. I feel that a better game comparable to NintendoLand should have been a pack in and not having a game as good or better than that as a pack in is not a great idea. On the argument of lowering the price. Even if this was 29.99 there are still better games to get and honestly this game should have been offered as a digital code and people can decide if they want it. NintendoLand blows this game out of the water at least there is some depth to the game and I still play that to this day from time to time.

Just Physical release for me for Breath of the Wild on pre-order with Amazon for WII - U. Zero interest in the switch and since this is the last Major retail release for Wii - U may even get the DLC for zelda as well if its available on the e-shop this week if not I will download bomberman 94 for the TX 16 even though its not on the list.

@Nintenjoe64 - I received an email a few days ago from Amazon that it will be delayed until I think march 7th. I was also curious and checked on Amazon the other day and there is no page for Wii - U version so it may have sold out. You have an option on Amazon for the Wii U version to get the digital code for 59.99 but nothing for physical so it appears that it sold out already.

@gatorboi352 - I couldn't agree more with your post about the switch's portability being over hyped and a game like this would work out better on a console and switch will be a indie haven which personally I like indie games actually better than AAA games because most are not to my taste but I know that it won't sell systems on a mass scale and this is looking to even though has more commercial exposure than Wii - U but when the dust settles and the noise calms down the Switch will only probably sell around Wii - U to game cube numbers at best in my honset opinion.

@Yasume - I agree I'm picking up the Wii - U version of this as well and could care less about the switch. Switch to me is doing everything wrong. Not backwards compatible and no incentive for a Wii - U owner like myself to upgrade when to me I don't care really about graphics but if i'm to spend over 300 for new hardware and peripheral's with still no game running around 500 to 600 dollars when you do side by comparisons The switch only looks slightly better. I don't care to rebuy mk 8 when it looks almost the same with a battle mode. A battery with only 2.5 hours - 3 hours battery life when mine on the Wii U lasts around 8 hrs because I bought the better battery. Also when your battery dies you can't replace yourself and have to send to Nintendo to replace. No backwards compatibility which is a big deal and adds value to me. I never got around to getting a WII so when I bought a WII- U it was like getting two consoles. No Netflix or Hulu to stream or internet browser which is a big deal to me. No word on transferring your wii - u downloads for free by having same nintendo network ID and i spent way to much money. I actually hope that the WII - U Breath of the Wild outsells the Switch version now that would be funny to me. To be quite honest and believe me I have a lot more negative points but don't feel like listing all of them I feel I have more value with the Wii U and will skip the Switch and check out next Nintendo system and see if it's improved.

@fusion Couldn't agree more about everyone having the right to their opinion. I have noticed though if you disagree but still are a big Nintendo fan on this site but lets say like me you don't find the switch appealing at all but you have been playing Nintendo games over 30 years your labelled as a troll. LOL

I grew up on Nintendo but Switch is the only console that never appealed to me and even if it surprises me and becomes a success I still will never buy one but that's my own personal decision and doesn't make me any less of a Nintendo fan. I will continue to enjoy my WII - U and 5 years or so from now look at their next console unveiling and maybe it will be to my liking. But this makes me no less of a Nintendo fan.

@kobashi100 You should really speak for yourself on that one. Wii - U is my favorite home console of all time and That's why I have two of them and I am skipping on the Switch. I have all that I need and plenty of games to last me and besides why would I want to buy new hardware that is a slight or modest upgrade over the last. To be quite honest when they show side by comparisons of Wii - U to Switch half the time I really can't see much of a difference. I don't care about graphics but no way am I paying over 300 dollars for new hardware that's basically to me a gimped portable as I don't care about portability I only game a few hours a week and at home. I have had battery problems and had to buy a new battery for Wii - U and with Switch you can't just buy and replace yourself. You would have to pay to ship back and forth to Nintendo plus pay for the new battery I don't think so. Pay online when its not much of an improvement over the free version. very short battery life of 2.5 to 3 hours. When I have a battery that lasts around 8 hours for the Wii-U. Each day more and more 3rd parties saying why they love the switch so darn much but hey were not going to put our game on it. The only game worth getting is Breath of the Wild but I can have it on my Wii - U so why bother getting a switch. New HD rumble technology that so far is only implemented on 1-2 switch and not even a big flagship title such as breath of the wild. A very tight canned lip on if you can transfer your wii - u purchases having the same Nintendo ID over to the switch. All these unanswered questions means there either hiding something or certain things were rushed to meet an early launch but either way count me out. Also no backwards compatibility which is what sold me on the Wii - U. At the time when Wii was out I always meant to get one but never got around to it so when Wii - U came out it was like getting two consoles in one. I can go on and on about how Switch is not going to hit such a high territory of sales as people predict. Last thing over priced hard ware with no pack in game. Peripherals that are extremely over priced and if you get the extra joy cons and pro controllers you can spend over 500 to 600 dollars and yet still no game. Nintendo is either arrogant or expecting their flagship fanboys to support them blindly as they always do. To me there is no reason for a WII - U owner to move over to switch in my honest opinion.

@ jimi I don't think just France but I don't think Switch will do much better than Wii - U may hit 15 to 20 million lifetime sales as all the top tier 3rd party games that are resource hungry praise the switch but for awhile almost daily on here the article will read something like this, "why so and so praises the switch but were not putting our game on it" LOL what a joke.

@CircuitWrangler3 your welcome on knowing about my decision to skip the switch but hey that is why I don't mind paying an extra 20 on DLC for more Zelda since its going to be my last Wii - U new release mine as well go out with a bang. Anyway I disagree about Trial periods when I have stated many other articles that nothing about the Switch appeals to me. Quite honestly i was eagerly anxious when it was code named NX but the more rumors that were leaked it started to die every day. I still gave it the benefit of the doubt and did not like the reveal trailer and couldn't even watch it all the way through. My negatives outweigh the positives. Switch you can't change the battery yourself when it dies you have to ship it to Nintendo well I recently had an issue with my battery for Wii- u and it took just a few minutes using a cross head screwdriver to take out the screws instead of shipping the whole console to Nintendo. Not backward compatible. $299.99 dollars with no pack in game and the peripherals like extra controllers are too expensive. Also don't care about portability as I only play from time to time at home and that is only typically 2 -6 hours a week on average. Lastly the side by videos to be quite honest look almost the same to me when they showed splatoon 2 and mk8 deluxe. Buying a switch doesn't seem like much of an upgrade in my honest opinion although I'm not big on graphics but at least if I upgrade I want more noticeable improvements it looks and runs only slightly better than Wii -U. Why not just keep what I have and save money. Why do I need a trial period again when nothing about Switch grabs my attention and to be honest this along with the virtual boy are the only two nintendo systems in 30 years I have had zero interest in.

Since I'm skipping on the switch for many reasons I'm not going to go into as I've posted many before on other articles and since this is my last new release that Wii - U owners will get that are not moving over to switch I welcome more Zelda. I really don't mind getting more out of it. Although I do agree that pack # 2 has more bang for your buck the one coming out towards the end of 2017.

Somebody pinch the man because he is clearly dreaming if he thinks it will achieve the WII status of 100 million or more. First of all its a bad business move to come off a commercial failure and put out a piece of hardware with peripherals that will run around 500 to 600 dollars or more before even getting any games. Secondly 1-2 Switch I personally don't see the appeal of simulating milking a cow as anything more than a five or second laugh with the right group and nothing more and will sit and collect dust but retailing for 49.99 when it looks to be a tech demo and should have been a pack in. Thirdly come on you can't change the battery yourself when it dies. My Wii - U battery was having issues but completely died after 3 1/2 years and its cheaper and more convenient to buy a new one and install yourself. Next all the trailers and such have a bunch of hipster or casual looking gamers which seeing this is more expensive than the Wii will not appeal to them for this price. The sheer arrogance of Nintendo to think they can seriously fail and the masses will flock to their underpowered out dated hardware and as when the sales momentum slows after launch which after the hype dries up the third parties will flee again and that will leave first party and indies again which did not save the Wii - U. I personally enjoyed the Wii - U but feel I have no reason or incentive to upgrade to a system that looks almost the same when you compare performance and graphics. I have two Wii - u's and when Breath of the Wild comes out I will enjoy it and the Wii - U for years to come and when their next system comes out I will look at it and hopefully it will be better than the Switch.

@MSVT I too was looking forward to this and Rive but hey at least the developers of Shovel Knight in spite of Wii - U by industry standards being a commercial failure have kept their word. Wouldn't you as a developer rather long term success then short gain. If you give your word no matter what you should keep it and look at how Yacht club has been successful they could have just let their success get to their head and said forget you Wii - U backers its a dead system and move on. They were smart to keep their fan base and there are people like me that will not support you when you break your word. Not sure if I'm spelling this right but as amazing as yooka laylee looks because of how they dropped the bomb so sudden and last minute which looks like an obvious bait and switch (no pun intended) i will no support that game but hey I wasn't going to get the Switch regardless as seeing that I already have two Wii - Us in the house and the Switch looks like a mild upgrade performance and graphic wise. I really don't care about graphics and performance but if I upgrade and spend 500 to 600 in hardware and accessories I at least want it to be superior to my last console but I feel that Wii - u is fine for me and I will just skip the switch and play my huge library of wii/wii u and download games for years to come since I only have time to game a maximum of 4 hours a week. I see no value in upgrading either to the switch if you meant, "Well, whatever they ditch the installed Wii U userbase, they lost another sale -I am not Switch-ing."

If anyone checks out EBAY and put a brand new Wii - U in your cart even if its 10 or so of them in an hour time there all gone. Is it that people realize the Switch isn't much better in terms of graphics and performance and decided to finally get one. Or is it someone like me that was so disappointed and decided to skip out on the switch all together and pick up a second wii - u just in case the first one dies and just wait and see what Nintendo's next console is. Either way Wii - U's are going faster now than ever since major retailers do not carry them. Too bad it did not sell this way when available as I think the Wii - U was a fantastic system and my absolute favorite of Nintendo's

@SLIGEACH_EIRE and @gravythief I too agree with you both to a certain degree except when something bothers me I will not support it later on after the launch. I too have a strong distaste for Switch and don't see it being successful in the long run. I am a console gamer and do not care about portability whatsoever and this gives me no reason to upgrade to Switch. I have a Wii U and the performance and Graphics all though I'm not big on that and games and fun are more important but I don't care to spend around 500 to 600 in hardware and accessories when this runs slightly better than Wii - U. Plus I stopped gaming for a long time and did not have a Wii so Wii - U being backwards compatible was like getting two consoles in one. Switch not backwards compatible a lot of Wii - U ports that side by comparisons nothing different enough to me to buy the same games all over again. When the noise settles down and the dust settles I see this maybe being just a tad more successful than Wii - U but not by much or even slightly below. This is the first reveal of a new console that I have instead of embraced I have ran away from and will not be making the Switch at all not even a few years later into its life. I will stick with my Wii - U.

@Kosmo I appreciate you being rational as well even though our opinions differ on the subject. I assumed you meant I was a troll or had a nintendoomed attitude because a lot of others on this site had childish responses so I assumed the same from your posts. A lot of people on this site if you have a rational opposing opinion on the switch with some good reasons they make personal attacks or accuse you of being negative. It's quite the contrary though I have had an off and on again relationship with Nintendo for 30 years not due to them but me growing out of games for awhile and life things of that nature. I can't fully understand why I love the Wii - U and have such a distaste for the Switch. I'm the kind of person something has to hit me right away and even if its a flop like the Wii -U. I absolutely love it and has all the great games for me and my family to play. On the bright side though even if the switch was something I liked I most likely would have skipped anyway I have enough games believe me I haven't finished or played yet as I only game about 2 to 4 hours a week. Every know and then I get to game a little more but so much going on I don't get enough time to justify buying new hardware when I don't game on the road anyway its always at home.

@Kosmo This article is the very opposite of that and that is my point and that is what is great about freedom of speech and expression is to hear both sides. Everyone seems to be okay with a very outrageous claim of 40 million units when the Wii U flopped and this same site predicted they would sell way more than 13 million units in its lifetime so this information may not be correct again. Sure one can argue that they sold the 2 million in pre-orders already but how many of those may cancel before march 3, 2017 and even if they do and they still sell out how long do you think this will go on. I believe when the noise dies down and the wind settles that they will fall way short on 40 million units. As far as Nintendoom goes as you keep saying and putting words in my mouth. I never said Nintendo is doomed I just don't think its going to appeal to enough people to do any better than Wii - U did and if it does not by much. I'm not going into all the details as to why I believe that as I have posted many before. I was just expressing my frustration with Nintendo and feel that they have not learned since Wii -U's commercial failure. I still wish them the best and I hope they don't fail but unfortunately I just think the Switch will not be a mass market success but will have a very small fan base.

@Kosmo There is a difference between being a frustrated Nintendo Fan and trolling by the way. I have very valid reasons for me to want to skip something that has no value to me when I have spent enough on Wii - u between the console, peripherals, and games. I don't like anything about the Switch and just like this article I'm entitled to my opinion. This article has no means to base off and is just noise and your okay with their false claim of 40 million units but the other side speaks out and its called trolling. I was excited at one point when this was code named NX and quite honestly more info that got leaked my excitement dwindled. Fast forward to the first presentation I lost all interest but because of being a Nintendo fan for thirty years I watched the last full reveal except not the whole thing as it was so bad to me I couldn't watch the whole thing. They lost me at 1-2 switch simulating milking a cow and yet not a pack in game for a tech demo. This thing is over priced in my opinion for all that I gave and has no value to me. HMMMM not backward compatible check. Comes with no pack in games. Check. Accessories more expensive than ever. Check. Slight graphic improvement over Wii - U. Check. Very weak launch line up. Check. First time ever new Zelda and Mario game don't appeal to me and has lost its charm to me. The BOTW Wii - U version looks better to me and I don't like the new Switch version of it. Mario Odyssey just looks flat out weird and out of place to me. So that leaves really no interest for me. I can save money and just enjoy my Wii - U instead and if Nintendo to me does a better job I will come back the next generation.

@Andrzej777 That is so funny that you mentioned buying two spare Wii - u's. Not crazy at all that's how much I love my wii - u as well I just bought another one last night so now I have two total in the house something I have never done before. I have always loved my Wii - U since day 1 and got excited over every new reveal trailer like Pikmin 3 or Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze. This is the first time as a Nintendo Fan I couldn't bare the presentation or even the games. This thing (Switch) has no identity or personality. I'm the type of person something I like hits me right away instead of trying everything in my mind to justify liking something just because its Nintendo. Quite honestly the games don't appeal for me when it comes to the Switch. For the first time ever I have not been interested in a new Mario game because Odyssey to me looks out of place and odd. I don't mind making a new direction if it fits like Mario galaxy. BOTW in my honest opinion the Switch version looked dry as dust and the voice acting was awful. I don't like the direction Nintendo is going so that's why I bought another Wii - U. Since I'm skipping the Switch all together and I have no idea if the Nintendo I grew up on will ever come back. Funny thing when I was on Ebay I had around 6 or 8 different Wii - U's in my cart as i couldn't decide who to go with and all of them sold out. Wii - U's are selling faster now than they ever did when they were on shelves at the store. Could it be people are clinging to them because the Switch looks that bad or maybe realizing how great of a console it actually was.

@Kosmo what is there not to get if its explained in their post and like my comment some people are current Wii - U owners that see no value and are highly disappointed in what switch is and offers and would rather save their money and just play their Wii -U. I have given many points on previous posts so I'm not going to list them all but I do not like anything about the switch and would rather save money and skip this generation of Nintendo hardware as they have shown side by comparisons of Wii U ports on Switch and quite frankly isn't enough of an upgrade for me to justify a purchase and only looks slightly improved over Wii U in graphics and performance. Also no games appeal to me and quite honestly BOTW was dry as dust and the voice acting was awful I actually liked the Wii - U version better and I feel the switch for me lacks the charm and personality of the Wii - U. I'm not impressed and the only Nintendo hardware I am skipping out on.

@Andrzej777. I couldn't have said that better myself. Everything you said is exactly how I feel. For the first time ever watching a unveil of a new console I was gravely disappointed and like you I'm a family guy that likes kid friendly games so I also don't care for third party support as there are a few that are kid friendly but most lack the charm and personality of a good quality first party Nintendo title. I am a Nintendo gamer only on and off for the last 30 years not due to any decisions by Nintendo but life situations and I don't game as many hours as I used to mainly just 2 to 4 hours a week sometimes a hare more. People will judge you and make personal attacks on this site if you chime in and give good valid reasons why The Switch rubs you the wrong way and as you said the cost of the thing is crazy for what you get. I mean 500 to 600 dollars by the time you get the hardware and the peripherals to basically play the same thing over again except it has portable functionality and third party support I don't care about. The switch looked so bad to me I couldn't even watch through everything I mean come on wow I get to simulate milking a cow on 1-2 switch yeah that will draw the crowds into this. Side by comparisons it looked like a slight upgrade from Wii-U both graphically and performance but not enough of one to justify spending over 500 to 600 for hardware and accessories when I already have a Wii -U. Furthermore I'm not one to buy into hype and quite honestly I was intrigued when it was code named NX but the more things that were revealed the more I lost interest and then it completely died after the full unveil of the Switch. For the first time in 30 years as a Nintendo only gamer I'm running far away from the Switch and I'm entitled to feel burned by Nintendo and not on the hype train but yet the fanboys on this site bash your opinion of why you don't see a future in the Switch and very valid points as well are made against it. But your labelled as a troll or oh to much negativity on this site. I just happen to not jump when Nintendo says Jump and they haven't give me a good valid reason to jump so I will not be making the switch. On a positive note about how bad the switch looks to me it has made me appreciate the WII - U even more than I already do and I have so many games I have bought yet to be played that I'm considering getting a second Wii - U just in case the first dies and skip the Switch all together and if there next console appeals to me then I will be back.

@Billsama @Hordak - I get where your coming from but I never buy nintendo systems because of its power. The point I was making is that when they did side by comparisons I felt that the games only looked slightly better than the Wii U versions and not enough to justify spending around 500 to 600 dollars by the time you get the hardware and all the peripherals. That's why I will be sticking with my Wii - U. I have spent enough money and I have a huge backlog of games and I only game two to four hours a week. With the amount of games I have yet to play on Wii - U for me I just don't see the appeal of the switch other than It's portable and now will have 3rd party support. Quite honestly when I upgrade although I don't care about graphics I don't want to get something that looks and runs almost the same but slightly improved than what I have. I feel that is a waste of money and I personally just don't see Switch being a success. I'm not going to bash those that like it or enjoy it. Me personally I'm going to skip on Nintendo this generation because I don't want to pay for something that looks very comparable to what I have. I never wished it to fail it's just I personally don't believe Nintendo has learned from Wii- U's commercial failure even though Wii - U is my favorite console. Switch just didn't appeal to me and I don't believe it will hit 40 million but hey if it does thats great.

@jarobusa. Yeah but your one among many I meant on a mass scale and there aren't 40 million wii u owners so this number I believe will not happen in four years and there losing wii u owners as well. Sure there will be 3DS users but not all. Sure some others as well but I just don't believe the masses are going to buy into this.

@Vegaphil your humor amazes me that you laugh at yourself because someone else has a difference in opinion what are you five years old now. You contradicted yourself as well if it was so frightfully dull as you say but yet you read it to the end. If it was so disengaging then why read it in the first place.

@kirby the vampire. But its more than that. I'm the type of person that something has to grab me right away and i don't follow the hype train either. Instead of trying to justify or come up with reasons to be interested in something it has to hit me right away. For example Wii - U is considered a commercial flop and yet I fell in love with it day 1 and its my only console. But for some reason Switch felt like it had no personality and It left me feeling empty and I couldn't even watch an event I have always been excited about the unveiling of a new Nintendo console but nope not this time.

@00Wyvern You just don't get it like the other I responded to. Hardware/peripherals that will run about 500 to 600 by the time your done for a system that runs just slightly better than Wii U. Normally I get excited over Nintendo presentations but the games didn't do it for me. I did watch some of Mario Odyssey and it just seemed weird and odd to me. As much as I love Wii u as I said before and were all entitled to our opinions I don't want to purchase a console that performs slightly better than the one I have.