They seem to be running at the correct speed of the 60Hz versions to me. The confusion over SMB may be due to the music in the original PAL version running way too fast!
They run as they should in Europe - full speed and as the 60Hz originals did, which makes them faster than the Wii VC versions. I hope if any other consoles come to 3DS VC they will do the same. If I didnt get these 'free' games, this download would be awful.
Glad to know I'm not the only person who thinks Balloon Fight is great - the 'Balloon Trip' music is really memorable too. I hope it is playing at the correct speed though, and that we dont get '50Hz' style emulations in Europe.
Hmm, most of these were released on the GBA as part of the Famicom Mini / NES Classics games, I wonder if they will use those versions.
Will be interesting to see how Nintendo emulates them in Europe, if they reflect the 60Hz standard (with correct speed music and gameplay), or the slow 50Hz versions made available on the Wii VC.
Well, the Wii is a massive selling console. I suppose SEGA would look at the sales of the first and how much it would cost to produce an exclusive non HD version. I'd like to see it, as I enjoyed the first episode and dont think I'll afford to buy the WiiU for a while.
A 3DS that downplays the '3D' aspect, sounds fake to me. I dont care about another analogue slider (I'd prefer an improved d-pad) but I see the point for left handed people, was one thing the Atari Lynx got right with its flip over design.
Pleased to see Gargoyle's Quest, but I still want to know what happened to other consoles we were told would be on 3DS VC at launch, specifically the Game Gear!
I also want Super Hang-On on the Wii, but it seems Nintendo has forgotten that the Wii VC exists.
I walked into GAME on Oxford St. on Saturday only to be told they had no copies. HMV not even on display - Oh well, though I'm not normally a RPG fan, and a bit broke at the moment, this looks good so ordered online.
@ Bass_X0 Saturn had other problems though, the loss of confidence in SEGA products created by the 32X and Mega CD, then the whole world going 3D graphics crazy. SEGA fans (such as myself) who did buy the console, then saw some of the most interesting games left in Japan.
The quality of games SEGA made went down hill pretty fast after the Dreamcast (with a few exceptions). I have no interest in smart phones so I cant really comment, but I think it would hurt Nintendo's own download services if they provided say, VC content. Perhaps they should try improving their own download services first, with more content and choice.
I dont think it matters... If you really want a Wii that plays GC games you could still buy one second hand, I think Nintendo sold quite a few. This 're-design' should be cheaper though.
Looks like I'll never get the arcade version on Super Hang-On on the Wii.
Nintendo have such weird practices, why drip feed digital content like this - did they at no point think if they had put the 'free' 3DS VC games up for sale in the first place, they might have sold more consoles?
Just bad. These downloads are seriously lacking, the excusive for 3DS owners this week is... the gameboy version of Pac-Man - for £3.60? Where has the Wii VC gone, does Nintendo think having the eshop means it can forget the Wii shop exists?
For EU Wii owners these last few updates are just awful. Even with the 3DS, where are the supposedly 'available at launch of the e-shop' other VC systems reported in March? Still waiting for the Game Gear...
Those who only buy new games and never trade would need to be very wealthy and have a lot of storage space.
Imagine if this was common place historically, if all those carts and memory cards could not be deleted or over-written? It would be awful and wreck the point of retro collecting.
I would also suggest that trade in and second hand purchases allow people to play many more games than they might if they had to buy everything new, generating interest they may not have otherwise had in possible sequels.
I prefer the 'classic' Resident Evil style of gameplay, enjoyed 4 up to a point, but never really cared for the Mercs mode. I suppose if you enjoyed that, you would enjoy this.
I have the cart and a gameboy so I'll skip the 3DS VC this week. I'm still suprised with how poor these updates are overall, there is so little worth-while content added...
Wow James, I was almost twice your age in '91 and my first console was the Atari 2600, but I was equally impressed the first time I saw Sonic on the Megadrive. I also had to make do with the Master system version for a while, which is a classic in its own way - its not like the Megadrive had Bridge or Jungle Zones.
I've still got my original carts and consoles, great gaming memories.
At the time I remember thinking this was much better than Mario Kart, its a long time since I played it. I recall playing this game into the small hours around a friends house (I owned a Saturn), trying to beat that final race against (I think) a flying pig of some sort and never managing to do so.
Twenty years later, I still have my original cart and a megadrive set up to the tv... All time classic game.
The Game Gear Sonic 1 is also really good (Adventue DX version seemed to have glitches not present in the original), Hopefully will come to 3DS VC in a better emulated version, as my Game Gear screen is pretty bad.
I dont think Nintendo have been about producing the most 'powerful' hardware for some time. The Gamecube's graphics could look equal to or perhaps even better than the Xbox or PS2, but the Wii was far more sucessful.
I dont want a PS3 (or 4!) with Nintendo written on the box, I want to see them continue to make innovative, fun video games that offer an alternative to the very similar HD consoles out there already.
I think its a console you have to play to really appreciate, which makes it tricky to market I suppose. Street Fighter 4 and Ridge Racer were great titles for me as I like arcade style gameplay. I waited until I could get a bit of a better price though, no way I could afford £200 + at launch!
Who has the most powerful console doesnt matter to me, its about the games. It will be interesting to see what Nintendo can do with their own games on Wii U.
It may yet be the first 'HD graphics' console I buy (not counting the Megadrive!).
'Different' is ok, its when that actually means 'less' or '50Hz only versions' that it tends to bug me.
I was also hoping the game gear VC would be out at launch for all of us, as reported back in March. Nintendo always seem to drip feed their download services, but I'm still happy with the 3DS overall so far.
Give the 3DS a chance, I've not bought one yet as there are not many games out and the shop / VC isnt set up. For me, games need actual buttons, I dont want a phone, I want a games console.
As mentioned above, I think given the choice with this genre at the moment on the 3DS, most would go for SF4.
I played this on the Gamecube and much prefer that version, spining the camera to take in those nice landscapes (I dont have a widescreen TV anyway). I thought the game was great to play through but once its completed, not much incentive to go back.
This and Wind Waker are my favourites, the old games dont have the nostalgia bonus for me as never had Nintendo consoles back then.
I'm kinda with Otak here. I like Japanese style games.
I have no interest in Call of Duty - The worry is with region locking the increased difficulty of importing games without also importing a second console, I might not get to play the games I want.
Was playing my original cart on my Megadrive last night. Sonic the Hedgehog is one of my favourite games ever, along with OutRun. Though there were lots of bad games, Colours and Rush were good, I also enjoyed Sonic 4, though I dont think it really lives up to that title even as a single 'episode'...
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Re: NES Ambassador Games Available in Europe Now
They seem to be running at the correct speed of the 60Hz versions to me. The confusion over SMB may be due to the music in the original PAL version running way too fast!
Re: Nintendo Download: 1st September 2011 (Europe)
@22 Argh! - dont say that! I'm already worrying they will implement a 'performance enhancing' update to do just that
Re: Nintendo Download: 1st September (Europe)
They run as they should in Europe - full speed and as the 60Hz originals did, which makes them faster than the Wii VC versions.
I hope if any other consoles come to 3DS VC they will do the same.
If I didnt get these 'free' games, this download would be awful.
Re: North American NES Ambassador Games Announced
Glad to know I'm not the only person who thinks Balloon Fight is great - the 'Balloon Trip' music is really memorable too. I hope it is playing at the correct speed though, and that we dont get '50Hz' style emulations in Europe.
Re: These Are The 10 NES Ambassador Games in Japan
Hmm, most of these were released on the GBA as part of the Famicom Mini / NES Classics games, I wonder if they will use those versions.
Will be interesting to see how Nintendo emulates them in Europe, if they reflect the 60Hz standard (with correct speed music and gameplay), or the slow 50Hz versions made available on the Wii VC.
They're 'free' so I'll get them either way!
Re: Telltale Bringing Back to the Future Wii to Retail
Any chance for Europe release?
Re: Sonic 4: Episode II Not Due Until 2012
Well, the Wii is a massive selling console. I suppose SEGA would look at the sales of the first and how much it would cost to produce an exclusive non HD version. I'd like to see it, as I enjoyed the first episode and dont think I'll afford to buy the WiiU for a while.
Re: Rumour: Nintendo Readying Big Announcement Next Month
Er... Shenmue 3, Mario to guest star?
Re: Rumour: Nintendo Preparing Dual Analogue 3DS Revamp
A 3DS that downplays the '3D' aspect, sounds fake to me. I dont care about another analogue slider (I'd prefer an improved d-pad) but I see the point for left handed people, was one thing the Atari Lynx got right with its flip over design.
Re: Nintendo Download: 25th August 2011 (Europe)
Pleased to see Gargoyle's Quest, but I still want to know what happened to other consoles we were told would be on 3DS VC at launch, specifically the Game Gear!
I also want Super Hang-On on the Wii, but it seems Nintendo has forgotten that the Wii VC exists.
Re: Xenoblade Chronicles Assaults UK Top 10
I walked into GAME on Oxford St. on Saturday only to be told they had no copies. HMV not even on display - Oh well, though I'm not normally a RPG fan, and a bit broke at the moment, this looks good so ordered online.
Re: Talking Point: What If Nintendo Became a Third Party?
@ Bass_X0 Saturn had other problems though, the loss of confidence in SEGA products created by the 32X and Mega CD, then the whole world going 3D graphics crazy. SEGA fans (such as myself) who did buy the console, then saw some of the most interesting games left in Japan.
Re: Talking Point: What If Nintendo Became a Third Party?
The quality of games SEGA made went down hill pretty fast after the Dreamcast (with a few exceptions). I have no interest in smart phones so I cant really comment, but I think it would hurt Nintendo's own download services if they provided say, VC content. Perhaps they should try improving their own download services first, with more content and choice.
Re: Sonic Generations Screens Show Mushroom Hill Zone
This Zone is looking nice. I really hope this game turns out good, from the preview, sounds like it still needs some work.
Re: Capcom Sets Three Game Boy Games Onto 3DS VC
Great news, but... where is the Game Gear!?
Re: Current Wii Model to be Discontinued
I dont think it matters... If you really want a Wii that plays GC games you could still buy one second hand, I think Nintendo sold quite a few. This 're-design' should be cheaper though.
Re: Nintendo Download: 18th August 2011 (Europe)
Urban Champion looks like it plays similar to the game and watch title 'Boxing', which could be ok. I really like the way this update looks.
Re: Nintendo Download: 11th August 2011 (Europe)
Looks like I'll never get the arcade version on Super Hang-On on the Wii.
Nintendo have such weird practices, why drip feed digital content like this - did they at no point think if they had put the 'free' 3DS VC games up for sale in the first place, they might have sold more consoles?
Re: Europe, Your Spirit Will Avenge on 3DS VC Soon
Looks ok, but where are the Game Gear games? I want to play GG Shinobi...
Re: Nintendo Download: 4th August 2011 (Europe)
Just bad. These downloads are seriously lacking, the excusive for 3DS owners this week is... the gameboy version of Pac-Man - for £3.60? Where has the Wii VC gone, does Nintendo think having the eshop means it can forget the Wii shop exists?
Re: Nintendo Download: 28th July 2011 (Europe)
For EU Wii owners these last few updates are just awful. Even with the 3DS, where are the supposedly 'available at launch of the e-shop' other VC systems reported in March? Still waiting for the Game Gear...
Re: Iwata: "We Must Continue to Combat Negative 3D Rumours"
My advice is never to look directly at 'the Sun', it may hurt you eyes and your ability to make critically informed decisions.
Re: SEGA, Aksys and Konami All Use Permanent 3DS Save Data Too
Those who only buy new games and never trade would need to be very wealthy and have a lot of storage space.
Imagine if this was common place historically, if all those carts and memory cards could not be deleted or over-written? It would be awful and wreck the point of retro collecting.
I would also suggest that trade in and second hand purchases allow people to play many more games than they might if they had to buy everything new, generating interest they may not have otherwise had in possible sequels.
Re: Talking Point: The Resident Evil: Mercenaries 3D Save File Debate
I think it is a cynical move and I wont support it with a purchase.
Re: Review: Resident Evil: The Mercenaries 3D (3DS)
I prefer the 'classic' Resident Evil style of gameplay, enjoyed 4 up to a point, but never really cared for the Mercs mode. I suppose if you enjoyed that, you would enjoy this.
Re: Nintendo Download: 30th June 2011 (Europe)
I have the cart and a gameboy so I'll skip the 3DS VC this week. I'm still suprised with how poor these updates are overall, there is so little worth-while content added...
Re: RE Mercenaries 3D Save Data Will Not Die
I'm not really bothered about this game anyway, but would not want this tactic to become a trend.
Re: Feature: Staff Memories of Sonic the Hedgehog
Wow James, I was almost twice your age in '91 and my first console was the Atari 2600, but I was equally impressed the first time I saw Sonic on the Megadrive. I also had to make do with the Master system version for a while, which is a classic in its own way - its not like the Megadrive had Bridge or Jungle Zones.
I've still got my original carts and consoles, great gaming memories.
Re: Review: Diddy Kong Racing (Nintendo 64)
At the time I remember thinking this was much better than Mario Kart, its a long time since I played it. I recall playing this game into the small hours around a friends house (I owned a Saturn), trying to beat that final race against (I think) a flying pig of some sort and never managing to do so.
Re: Sonic the Hedgehog is 20 Years Old Today
Twenty years later, I still have my original cart and a megadrive set up to the tv... All time classic game.
The Game Gear Sonic 1 is also really good (Adventue DX version seemed to have glitches not present in the original), Hopefully will come to 3DS VC in a better emulated version, as my Game Gear screen is pretty bad.
Re: Wii U Striking Balance Between Performance and Price
I dont think Nintendo have been about producing the most 'powerful' hardware for some time. The Gamecube's graphics could look equal to or perhaps even better than the Xbox or PS2, but the Wii was far more sucessful.
I dont want a PS3 (or 4!) with Nintendo written on the box, I want to see them continue to make innovative, fun video games that offer an alternative to the very similar HD consoles out there already.
Re: Looks Like There's No Sale on Sonic Games This Week
I wouldnt buy those 50Hz versions anyway, Sonic in slow motion and with nice boarders on the top and bottom of the screen...
Re: Fils-Aime: "3DS Didn't Launch Prematurely"
I think its a console you have to play to really appreciate, which makes it tricky to market I suppose. Street Fighter 4 and Ridge Racer were great titles for me as I like arcade style gameplay.
I waited until I could get a bit of a better price though, no way I could afford £200 + at launch!
Re: Nintendo Download: 16th June 2011 (Europe)
Not that impressed with 3DS update so far, more 2D videos and screen shots, a single (though good) VC release...
Was hoping that the eshop would improve upon the slow speed that new content was added on the Wii - still early days I guess.
Re: Rumour: Wii U is 50% More Powerful Than PlayStation 3
Wow - so how many 'bits' is that
Who has the most powerful console doesnt matter to me, its about the games. It will be interesting to see what Nintendo can do with their own games on Wii U.
It may yet be the first 'HD graphics' console I buy (not counting the Megadrive!).
Re: Regional eShops Will Continue to Offer Different Content
'Different' is ok, its when that actually means 'less' or '50Hz only versions' that it tends to bug me.
I was also hoping the game gear VC would be out at launch for all of us, as reported back in March. Nintendo always seem to drip feed their download services, but I'm still happy with the 3DS overall so far.
Re: Dead or Alive: Dimensions Pulled from Sale in Australia
Oh, for goodness sake. Lets hope the stoopid UK tabloids dont get hold of this...
Re: Talking Point: Should Nintendo Have Made the 3DS Download-only?
If it was download only, I wouldnt buy one. I like having stuff, there is no way I would want to swap my retro collection for a bunch of downloads.
I prefer to see the things I like reflected in the things I physically own, not just a list of files that I have limited license to access.
Re: Sonic Generations 3DS & New Shinobi Title Confirmed
Growing up in the late 80s / early 90s, its strange to think that SEGA games will help to sell me the Nintendo 3DS...
OutRun 2 and SEGA Rally next please!
Re: First Shinobi 3DS Details Appear in a Cloud of Smoke
When (if, funds permitting) I get a 3DS GG, Shinobi will be the first thing I download.
A great series, I agree it does look like a time line - either way, compilation or original, will be great to see Shinobi on the 3DS.
I still remember playing the original coin op, it seemed the coolest thing ever, shame my C64 couldnt quite replicate the experience...
Re: Dead or Alive Fails to Land a Hold on UK Charts
Give the 3DS a chance, I've not bought one yet as there are not many games out and the shop / VC isnt set up. For me, games need actual buttons, I dont want a phone, I want a games console.
As mentioned above, I think given the choice with this genre at the moment on the 3DS, most would go for SF4.
Re: Features: Re-Examining Zelda: Twilight Princess
I played this on the Gamecube and much prefer that version, spining the camera to take in those nice landscapes (I dont have a widescreen TV anyway). I thought the game was great to play through but once its completed, not much incentive to go back.
This and Wind Waker are my favourites, the old games dont have the nostalgia bonus for me as never had Nintendo consoles back then.
Re: Rumour: Wii Successor Won't Have a Traditional Hard Drive
I just hope it tells you how many 'bits' it has in embossed gold writing on the front. That never goes out of style.
I figure Nintendo will have a proper memory solution, the Wii was pretty criticised in that respect so must be a priority?
Re: Nintendo Reinforcing Western Development for Wii's Successor
I'm kinda with Otak here. I like Japanese style games.
I have no interest in Call of Duty - The worry is with region locking the increased difficulty of importing games without also importing a second console, I might not get to play the games I want.
Hopefully Nintendo will find a balance.
Re: The Ignition Factor Lights Up Virtual Console on Friday
This looks interesting, I remember hearing about it a while back but I've never played it. Will be on my list to download at some point.
Re: Rumour: Wii 2 to Cost $350, Support 3DTVs, Out in October
Dreamcast 2 controller? Thats some flash VMU right there but will it make a nice "beeeep!" sound when you power on the console...
Re: Sony CEO Refers to Nintendo Handhelds as "Babysitting Tools"
Is he trying to 'shame' people into buying a psp2? Hopefully '20 somethings' are mature beyond such naff peer pressure, and play the games they like.
Re: Celebrate 15 Years of Resident Evil With This Special Trailer
Needs more wooden acting, its all so well produced these days - where's the classic RE cheese factor?
Re: Sega Teases Sonic Anniversary Announcement for 7th April
Was playing my original cart on my Megadrive last night. Sonic the Hedgehog is one of my favourite games ever, along with OutRun. Though there were lots of bad games, Colours and Rush were good, I also enjoyed Sonic 4, though I dont think it really lives up to that title even as a single 'episode'...
Re: Review: WWE All Stars (Wii)
If only Giant Haystacks and Big Daddy were unlockable characters...